Boston Dynamics introduces a fully electric humanoid robot that “exceeds human performance”
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…replacing the previously hydraulic version.
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I never knew I needed Boston Dynamics to build a skinwalker, but they knew
“What should we include when we build our humanoid robot?”
“It should stand up in the most unnerving way possible.”
Admit it...if your legs could do that, you'd stand up like that every single time. Just because you could. Just like every time General Grievous climbs into a shuttle and does that flip.
Which is exactly why Jonathan Frakes sits down like that!
Jesus Christ, it’s like they made a new RoboCop out of the girl from The Ring
When they take over? They look super fun!
Seriously, Spotify should buy a bunch and launch pop up DJ venues. Put Skrillex out of a job.
Only got one question for ya here fellas, can it fuck?
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Not stock, but with the platinum fukyfuky package 👌
Stretch has reach, Atlas had flexibility.
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The orifice is working on that module
I just spent way too long looking for that Movie 43 clip of “don’t fuck it” but it seems wiped from the internet.
I mean, the planet’s dying, but ok. At least we’ve got robots that “excced human performance” in making their overlords profits. Imagine if these scientists were putting their efforts to real use.
The planet is fine, humanity is dying. But that’s ok.
Along with thousands of other species. That’s not ok.
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The real worst-case that you don’t hear in media is turning Earth into a situation similar to Venus. At that point there’s a real small chance of even extremophiles much less anything complex. Of course the planet will still rotate and continue orbiting the sun but earth-based life would probably only exist in some of our space junk like the poop bags Apollo left on the moon.
Because that level of environmental collapse is many lifetimes away, if it’s coming at all.
One of the benefits of humans dying out, which everyone seems so sure about, is that as humanity dwindles, so too will the continued damage to the ecosystem.
May not stop it, but would certainly hamper the acceleration of things.
Yeah though we are really good at surviving as long as there is anything at all to survive on.
Unfortunately, not super relevant. The earth->Venus scenario is about a positive feedback loop. So stopping our emissions after that tipping point doesn’t help.
The sun will start increasing in luminosity within a billion years, at which point it will be intense enough to cause rocks to begin soaking up CO2 to a point where photosynthesis will become difficult, and the planetary food chain will collapse.
The hour is much later than we think. Maybe another supercontinent cycle or so?
I wish it were only thousands.
Is it, though?
Yes. The planet doesn’t give a single fuck. It went through many extinction level events and it’s still here.
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Lol, not really. I’m rolling my eyes. It’s just more doom and gloom reaction to a legitimately useful piece of technology, which could be just as much benefit to humanity as a detriment.
Plus the idea that the people who worked on this might have even been capable of working on something more “useful” to humanity is complete and utter moon shot speculation, along with the idea that this is mutually exclusive to research and development of “useful” things.
I’ll reserve my cynicism for when these actually start trending towards replacing human workforce, like how LLMs are being misused. Most of Boston Dynamics’s stuff doesn’t have massive effects on the world, it’s more specialized use cases.
It’s gonna kill us
At least they aren’t only working on preventing hair loss and prolonging erections
Is there a difference?
Paraphrasing a joke from a movie called “Idiocracy”
of all the things scientists do, making robots that can do dangerous or even tedious labor isn’t that bad.
It’s probably one of the biggest potential saviors tbh, having robots efficiently construct wind turbines and solar arrays in inhospitable locations will help us transition from oil far faster and more efficiently.
I know a lot of people want to go back to having half the world impoverished so we can exploit their cheap labour like in the good old days but technology already helped them access education and stuff so that game is over.
These bots aren’t designed for that. They’re designed to replace humans in human-form-factor job infrastructure. Think less “installing wind turbines” and more “replacing all the human pickers in an Amazon warehouse.”
You don’t think humans install wind turbines or build solar farms? How do you imagine they come into existence?
They’re multitasking robots able to do a range of complex tasks, sure they’ll stock shelves oneday but the most cost effective and therefore first uses will be in hostile environments where it’s very expensive to have humans work. Undersea welding for example is a brutal job which requires all sorts of safety and habitability stuff that makes it hugely expensive even before the high wages those people earn - cutting this from the cost of infrastructure projects will make it much tcheaper for offshore wind projects. Especially as working conditions and human considerations make it impossible for continuous work where as robots can just work until its done.
My dad was the first of our male line to live over 35 in five generations, he was also the first never to work down a mine - people just used to accept poor people dying as the cost of living comfortably lives, the work needed to be done so someone had to do it… just as how I can’t imagine being in the situation of my grandfather so too will humanity move beyond the destruction of our lives that forced drudgery brings upon us.
Rich people don’t choose to stand stacking shelves all day, there’s a reason for that. Do not fight to keep such awful things, fight to make a world where we can live well without needing them
Is it going to be used to do dangerous labor, or just expensive labor? I have a feeling the places like the cobalt mines in Africa will be among the last to get robot workers while McDonalds in countries with first world wages will probably be among the first.
the scientists build the robots. Society and its corruption will determine how they get used. I don’t think it’s a reason to not build robots or to say they’re not worth making. At some point in the future, society may collectively improve and the robots will be there to use.
The hour’s growing late there. We needed to solve that problem before this technology became available. Just need useful life-extension technology and then it’ll just be a bunch of rich psychopaths running around the planet, and everyone else will be disposed of.
Not all technology is inherently neutral, and scientists know this. Scientists also typically know whos funding them. You think anyone at BD was surprised to see their work on a robot dog end up by the sides of police to be deployed at protests?
I was already thinking this reminded me of The Talos Principle but your “the planet is dying” comment makes it even more close of a match. Those games are awesome.
Cancer rope-a-doping us with robots and AI.
Nightmare fuel…. “I Robot” kind of scary
This video looks like a UT rendering
…in bed
“exceeds human performance” … in crushing whatever it is gripping, right?
And also since when human performance are all the same level
When I was taking classes on similar things, ‘human performance’ was generally defined as how well an expert in a given task performed.
in a general sense we are.
Absolutely not. Especially when it comes to speed and endurance.
I mean like we don't pull carriages with even our top athletes but we will with a runt of the litter horse.
No you absolutely do not! You never put more than half the weight of the horse on it’s back. I just recently went riding and since I’m not a fucking lardass I got to ride a good horse.
Movies and TV are not real life.
carriages can be of all types of sizes you know but if a humans pulling it we call it a rickshaw and we would never attach a horse to it because it could not handle its power.
It's such a weird phrasing. They make it sound like you can give it nails and a hammer and it can frame a house better than a human.
Maybe eventually
I mean have you seen inspection videos on YouTube? Homebuilders are doing a half assed job these days.
Those are addictive.
Me watching: " oh yeah, that’s ridiculous, how’d that pass inspection? "
Why are all the window frame welds breaking?
As if there was ever a golden age of craftsmanship.
Fuck humans they’re always dodgy. Bring in robots already
It gives the deathgrip a whole new meaning
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Your mother makes robots in hell.
soon things like this will be everywhere in our lives, on subscription, and can turn into police or military at any time like an agent smith. sleep tight!
Or just running down the street looking for an electric outlet to plug into
How do I subscribe when the robot took my job?
if you look at how many people will need to try to find new jobs after AGI and mass human robotics, its devastating. i’ve seen estimates in the tens or hundreds of millions.
just self driving cars alone could cause a global depression.
Taxis / Uber, food delivery, truckers, towing, garbage collection, construction hauling, couriers, bus drivers, etc, etc. I agree this will be devastating at first. But it really doesn’t have to be in the long run. As a society we need to stop equating someone’s value to their labor.
A robot could never excede my performance in being depressed and autistic so Im safe.
We've got LLMs now that can do that. Sorry, you've been replaced. Please gather your things into this box and cheer up.
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Just wait until we have robots with 10 times a normal human IQ, that have to work as greeters at the local supermarket.
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Were the others not fully electric!?!?! Like obviously they were but the title makes it sound like they built steampunk robots.
The old atlas had hydraulics, this one only electric actuators. Thats probably what they meant.
That makes a lot of sense, actually. I also saw “fully electric” and immediately thought of electric/hybrid/ICE cars, and my brain went straight to “hold up, did I miss the fully functional diesel-powered humanoid robot?”
I think it was gasoline, not diesel, but there was this.
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Jesus Christ well I’m glad they moved on from that design.
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So glad they selected this super not creepy intro.
T-001
Need to find out how to fight it, and kill it.
STEP 1 : Make friends with another one .
(If step one failed kill yourself in a painless way before getting crushed )
That broke my brain for a second
Samara
I think they specifically chose that to display that it has no “forward” axis, robots don’t need to be 100% anthropomorphic and follow our biological limitations, this is a very significant evolution in design that will allow for better mobility
I’d go further to argue that it’s very necessary for robots to have even more mobility such as wheels to take advantage of momentum and increase efficiency. There’s a reason the wheel was invented, things like bicycles, wheelbarrows, etc.
The ANYmal wheeled legged robot is an example of that.
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Yes, very good point!
I wonder if someday in the future we might use reinforcement learning to iterate over different mechanical designs to explore even more exotic combinations of wheels, springs, hydraulic pistons, steel wires, legs and joints (optimizing for metrics like mobility etc). I even wonder if flexible joints made out of hard rubber could offer any advantages on bipedal motion
I’d argue that the wheel was invented not because “walking” was inefficient, but because flesh is weak and gets tired.
A robot doesn’t have that weakness. It thinks nothing of running five hours at high speed if necessary. It has no need of wheels if it can just Gump it cross country with cargo on his back a la Death Stranding.
Robots have battery capacity limitations, they get “tired” in a different way. Your claim is true if you invent a battery that never runs out of power.
Good point well made. I hadn’t considered that.
But does walking necessarily use more energy than rolling?
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh it disgusted me
I craved the strength and certianty of steel I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine
They might be able to ride bikes at some point.
I think the benefits to making them humanoid are underrated in this comment section.
I can probably do that too if I dislocate my hip bones
It looks like an improvement 😔. I mean fuck! I can’t even limbo that low much less get up from 0 to upright folding my legs around like that. But my face lamp is pretty bright! Just upgraded to LEDs and now I’m like a walking sun. I think they just copied me like that. And I got two ears not just one lowly antenna. So that’s not an upgrade.
Now they just need a silicone dildo, some silicone glue and a famous pornstar actress. That would sell a lot of droids this Christmas. Lots of Jewish, Jehovahs, Catholic, Christian, Protestant, Muslim men would be very interested…and women too. Specially if they come preprogrammed or programmable for special work like that.
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I want to see more of this future terminator.
This is probably the best way to get up if your joints can fully rotate. If you look closely, the legs are exactly below the center of mass when they touch the ground, making it easy to push upwards without falling over.
Humans just have to make complicated contortions or jump up because our joints are inferior (there are no slip rings for blood vessels).
Did you know there is an industry-standard mounting system for strap-on dildos? Just saying.
You really trust this thing’s fearsome actuators with your delicate starfish? Bold indeed.
Is it using XLR?
You were thinking exactly what I was thinking!
Smooooooth
I am not seeing any robot kicking footage, not convinced.
cool, so they can do the grueling work for us so we can enjoy life… right?
They will be so efficient, they can do both for us.
You don’t need humanoid robots for that, just an economic system that is not based on trading labor for income. That is what has been holding us back for a long time.
labor is necessary for many things regardless of the economic system.
i guess the problem with having these in the current labor for income system is that whenever they can replace us, we dont get income anymore, instead of enjoying workless utopia built by robots.
I wasn’t talking about getting rid of all labor, but we can with the vast majority of it.
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No you’ll work but the robot will be your supervisor and can beat you
this is already the case if you do app work like uber and such
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Okay somebody probably knows better than me, but what is the advantage of humanoid robots? Why are people kinda, on this, now? It feels very 20th century, as an idea. It’s pretty cool, but I don’t understand why this would be necessary compared to just like, specialized normal robots that do specialized normal tasks. It seems more efficient, if you wanted a robot to, say, do the dishes, to make a robot that just does the dishes, instead of making a robot in the shape of a person that does the dishes. The one that’s in the shape of a person is maybe more broadly applicable to human contexts, software notwithstanding (which does seem like a major hiccup). But it’s not as though there’s like, an upper limit on the amount of robots which we can have, in total. You could just make more robots, and make them specialized for certain tasks, like stocking shelves or whatever, and that would probably be easier, I would think, than making one robot to rule them all. Like, one robot, with ostensibly an on-board computer and on-board batteries so it’s as universal as possible.
It gives me self-driving car vibes, where we could’ve had them in the 50’s if everyone was willing to install metal spikes in the ground every however many feet ahead, but then that maybe doesn’t make any sense, because it’s just kind of a shitty train or tram. Basically, that nobody’s willing to front the cost of infrastructure for anything anymore, so we have to make like, a universal device, and end up quintupling the total cost while making a solution that is either less efficient or doesn’t exist.
Also, what’s the point of the legs? Is it supposed to go outside, or go up stairs better? We already have pretty efficient wheeled vehicles capable of doing that in most public spaces, or, we’re supposed to, anyways, they’re called wheelchairs. What do we need this guy to walk around for?
Edit: So far, what I’ve gotten is ladders, and the scalability of a humanoid design vs other kinds of designs.
For ladders, I think you could probably tackle that with a similar set of constraints what you might need for a stair climbing robot, maybe just with a couple heavyweight anchors inside of it and some gearing or something. Use the robot’s big arms, the manipulators, to climb like normal, and then use the bottom wheels to sort of ratchet the robot up. Probably that could work on most ladders with some clever engineering. Could maybe also run a cable from the top of the ladder to the bottom and then have a system where the robot rappels up and down for lots of ladders, but yeah.
I don’t think you end up spending all that much on a robot that has wheels vs legs, and I think probably the increased efficiency would be worth it if you want like a generalized robot here. Might be wrong, maybe a roboticist can tell me no, but I dunno. As far as engineering goes it doesn’t seem any more complicated than legs. Legs seem better for, offroading, basically. Which are why lots of animals use them, cause animals don’t have roads.
For the versatility and scalability thing, I dunno whether or not it’s more or less efficient still. While a steam cleaning room does require some amount of consideration to build, I would think that you could really get the price down from the tens of thousands of dollars required for this kind of robot to perform a similar job. Especially if you built it that way up front, retrofits might be much more expensive considering how many bathrooms aren’t built correctly. Or you could go with a kind of hybrid approach, which I totally forgot about, but would seem to make some amount of sense, especially for a larger building.
Maybe those savings build up over time, and you could just have a McDonald’s staffed by like three of these at once and only spend like 500,000 on it, which does seem like quite a bit to add on top of a McDonald’s opening costs. I’m assuming you gotta buy multiple to staff it as a whole and also that you have to buy multiple to have more battery capacity, but maybe one of these will come out with the clever innovation of a swappable battery if/when they come to market. I would definitely hope that’d be the case.
I’m not sure it works out economically. I’m not sure of anything here. These are just suggestions because I haven’t seen a lot of FUD on these human robots, except of the Terminator variety, which seems dumb.
I suppose my biggest difference here is just one of philosophy, mostly because I’ve seen it reflected in self-driving cars. You can make something that’s capable in any context. Wind, snow, rain, shine, heavy traffic, pedestrian traffic, intermodal traffic, different kinds of roads not created to a set standard by the state’s DOT. You can make a Swiss army knife, right. Maybe there are some economic and QoL savings there if you can do rideshares or do
I also question why they think it needs to have legs, especially only 2. The dogs seem to have way more stability on 4 legs. Why do they insist on making them appear human?
Centaur!
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Yeah! That’s more like it!
Gimme the spider designs! I’d be good with both ghost in the shell and wild wild West spiders
Because our spaces are also made with pets in mind and that form factor provides a size and adaptive benefit
They could make more specialized robots, but I imagine the selling point is the versatility. A specialized robot can make food at a fast food restaurant, but can it also deliver food to customers, mop floors, and clean bathrooms? Adding a specialized robot to a kitchen or a factory floor may require you to completely re-design how the floor/room is set up, but adding a humanoid shaped robot would not require any extra setup (well, besides teaching it/programming it).
Spot has been used as a security guard/ inspector at some sites. Going up stairs/ladders would be extremely difficult for something on wheels/treads, but for a robot that works like a human it could be easy.
I mean I guess my main point is just that I find these robotic humans to be kind of interesting and cool, but also totally unambitious and cynical, precisely because they don’t require things to be redesigned in any way. You could have floors and bathrooms designed so that they rinse themselves out and are steam sanitized with the press of a button, and not that much of a change in infrastructure compared to the norm, it’s just a different way to doing things that requires more thought out design for more discrete applications. Most fast food bathrooms already have a floor drain. Same with food delivery. There’s conveyor belt restaurants, we already have drive thrus with windows, restaurants already need to be navigable by foot in order for people to be able to sit down. These seem like maybe more efficient solutions long term than replacing people with humanoid robots.
Are the numbers working out that these are actually more efficient, economically, or something? Is it just that the tech sector is what has all the money lately, so they’re prescribing these as kind of a blanket solution to every other use-case? Is it just that human shaped robots are kind of cool? I dunno, but I do wonder about the versatility being more efficient. It works if the versatility itself, in a human environment, is kind of the end-goal here, but as a good in itself, I dunno.
My dad used to tell me “It’s a lot harder to carpet the world than it is to wear shoes.”
Ambitious redesigns of existing infrastructure are neat, but they are rarely more efficient or practical. Especially when you are overengineering to solve an issue that’s already been dealt with. A self cleaning room requires a lot of additional hardware, all of which has to be designed, built and installed, and has to be powered and run by software that needs to be programmed. It also needs to be maintained, and depending on how it’s cleaning things, it may also be dangerous, or at least capable of damaging property (ever have a motion activated light turnoff while in a bathroom stall? now imagine it triggers steam jets). Not to mention the potential hazards of water damage on a room if anything goes wrong.
Or, you can buy a mop for 0.1% of the price.
Humanoid robots can escape this problem because versatility adds value. The upfront cost may be tens of thousands of dollars, but for that price you’re getting something that solves many, many problems. They can potentially go from task to task, filling a multitude of roles, and ideally with minimal down time.
It also helps that we can use existing processes to train them. They can observe human workers performing a task, attempt to replicate that task, and use feedback to improve. And that’s critical because the hardware is the easier part, it’s software that’s the real challenge.
Because this makes it a drop-in replacement for a person. You need to go into a confined space with toxic gas? Your Wall-E-looking robot works great, right up until you hit a single step, god forbid a ladder. This robot could handle all of that, and turn the valve to shut off the gas or whatever.
You could make a spider bot or take most recent alien designs in TV and movie and it would have better dexterity than a human.
Or a snake bot, obviously.
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We have set up the world to be very usable and traversable by humans. A robot in that form would be able to go and do most things. Think of all the changes to places that needed to be made as part of the ADA. And those were for humans with relatively small changes such as wheels instead of legs.
War and policing. You’re dug into a foxhole/bunker with your bolt action rifle, and a few thousand of these things come marching along. Or you’re protesting the party in power, so a few hundred of these automated law enforcement officers get sprung loose to “keep the peace”
You do understand how expensive and impractical that would be, right? Training a thousand 18-year olds to handle anti-material rifles is going to be far, far cheaper than doing maintenance on a hundred of these robots.
You don’t need humanoid robots for that.
Expensive and impractical today, yes. But we would say the same of every man, woman, and child having a supercomputer with the entirety of human knowledge in their pocket fifty years ago.
Also battery life, You can give a human a couple of sandwiches and they’ll go all day, the robot probably needs a 20kg battery and still won’t go more than 8 hours without charging. Its actually one of the kind of mindblowing things about organic systems, A whole human body runs on less power than just the control unit for one of these robots (assuming its similar to a mid range laptop) let alone the motors.
Wait how many Kcal does a laptop burn a day?
Its based on a rough calculation, a humans energy consumption averages to about a 126w supply, a mid range laptop uses about 150w. Admitedly a humans energy consumption is going to change a lot moment to moment but then so is the robots.
Hmm… well considering small sedentary adults need like around 1,200 to survive, then a mid range laptop seems like it would require 1,400.
Nah its based on a 2000kcal/day person, there’s a still a lot of caveats sure like the person has to sleep but considering we’re comparing to literally just the robots brain a human is way more efficient.
I have a very simple test for these things when it comes to military stuff - would this or that piece of tech have proved an obstacle to the NLF (you know… that organisation people insist on calling the "Viet Cong)?
And the answer for this robot is… only if the objective was to provide them with lots of fancy scrap metal.
Because if the abrahamic god made us from clay, we, who have the spark of divinity inside of us because we were made on his image, can also do it and will do it better because fuck sky daddy.
It’s easier to build a specialized robot for one task than to create a general purpose robot to handle that task. However, as the technology matures, I think it becomes much more practical to create a general purpose robot that’s capable of performing millions of tasks than to create millions of different specialized robots. Not only is that far less to design, source parts for, build and maintain, but it also makes it much easier to repurpose them as needs change. The same basic design can potentially be used for factory work, household chores, new construction, search and rescue operations, food service, vehicle maintenance, mining, caring for kids/elderly/pets, building and maintaining other robots, etc. We’re not there yet, but that’s where this kind of technology could potentially take us.
The advantage of a mostly humanoid robot is that it’s versatile and can use existing solutions built for people. Yes, you could replace the legs with wheels or treads, and you’d probably be just fine for most functions with a Johnny 5 type design, but there will still be exceptions. Being able to climb up or down a ladder for example means that you don’t have to engineer a solution to deal with getting onto a roof or down into a tunnel system. We’ve already spent thousands of years solving those problems for humans.
Exactly. In a factory you can create an automated line that runs as long as you need. Or you can spend 1.5-2x that and get an automated worker that can work any of the lines you already have.
Also a lot of tasks that take one person would take several robots. Modify and inspect part-pack part-move pack to pallet for example
Wheels need roads and paths. Legs can walk over just about anything.
Specialized robots are great at doing one thing and terrible at doing everything else.
General humanoid robots can traverse and operate in environments that were designed and built for humans, and vice versa.
There’s a reason evolution settled on the tetrapod body plan. It’s very versatile. Walking on two legs just adds to that versatility.
Internet is full of text and video about humanoid bipedal things performing tasks. There’s a lot of investment money gambling that LLMs + human-shaped robots can make an electric slave that an unskilled overseer can vaguely yell at and the robot can figure out what they meant and how to do it like a human can.
Operating in environments made for humans, as well as alongside humans.
Say you have a remote hydroelectric dam that needs inspecting. You might need to walk stairs, climb ladders, open doors. We’re neither going to re-build all the dams we already built, nor build new ones to be wheelchair-accessible.
Yeah, since we’ve designed our world for humans, the best general purpose robots will have a human shape in order to function effectively in the same areas.
All this R&D on a drone that can open doors?
We are slowly, step-by-step heading toward visble androids.
Other people have mentioned flexibility in maneuvering around humanoid spaces, but there’s also something to be said about bipedal balance. I can pick up a pack of shingles throw it on my shoulder climb up a ladder and put the shingles on a roof without having to be half of the size of a cherry picker lift. Nothing says they have to be exactly humanoid or even necessarily bipedal. For some jobs I could see something more tri-pedal, insectoid or even spider-based would be useful
Let’s see it fold origami cranes better than a human hand
I want to fight it.
Everyone has a plan until a pneumatic metal fist hammers them silly.
What if being hammered silly by a pneumatic fist is my plan?
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Hey I’m glad you know what gets you hammered, you do you ;)
Please assume the position
Cheryl Tunt is that really you?!
It’s CAROL!
But this one’s electric
You’re completely correct, pneumatic sounded cooler. I know, I’m a complete scumbag.
When will people learn there’s nothing cooler than precision?
That’s a worthwhile question to ask, no doubt.
Electro mechanical punch accelerators!
Waiting any minute for Musk to come out and say how Tesla is the most advanced robot manufacturing company still, because he can’t stand not being in the spotlight.
Announces that the next Tesla model will transform from a car into a bi-pedal nuclear platform capable of operating anywhere in the world.
Shipping Q1 next year!
Fairly confident that it will be orders of magnitude better than anything before. And that’s something we can do today.
Until the manufacturing delays start due to actuators disintegrating and locking pilots in the machines.
And it’s not just a person in a body suit.
Well, the “robot” you’re referring to couldn’t exceed human performance by definition.
After watching the creepy as fuck way it got up off the floor I think it’s safe to say there’s not a human in it.
I’m honestly not sure which one is more creepy.
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I hope it can operate guns and sprint
Oh you know that’s where the engineering effort is going
I use drill motors for a fucking reason. Without AGI it’s a fancy NC machine.
Can it outrun a kenyan in a marathon?
Or the real question is if a battery can be made small enough to fit in a human sizef robot that can keep it running over 42km
It says exceed human performance, not exceed the peak humans in a given discipline.
Could Kiptum, race an F1 car as fast as Lewis Hamilton?
Could Lionel Messi play basketball like peak Kobe?
Sure the headline is hyperbole, but I don’t think we still should compare things like this.
Hyperbole is an understatement, the headline is obviously just trying to generate clicks. Idk how else we should quantify “human performance” though. Should we compare it’s strength to a sedentary office worker instead? I think the marathon comparison is actually very generous because I doubt this thing can even replicate a reasonable facsimile of a soccer performance.
Indeed. And lots of normal human beings are able to run marathon. Pretty easy if you set your mind to.
I mean, give it a dirt bike mode. Plenty of e-bikes out there can go over 42 km. Nothing says it has to do it like a human to exceed human capability.
Can it out mine John Henry?
No it doesn’t.
Well for a short time maybe
Zero time.
Maybe just a little bit?
As a treat.
Idk my limbs don’t rotate 360° degrees, At least not multiple times. Unless yours do he has us beat on something.
That’s not exceeding human performance. That’s stepping around it.
I bet it has a stronger handshake.
Who’s ready to fly on a zipline?
I’m getting really tired of that metric.
Like, human performance has a very wide range and scope.
My car “exceeds human performance.”
My toaster exceeds human performance for making toast.
Michael Phelps exceeds the human performance of myself in a pool.
I exceed the human performance of any baby.
This just tells me that the robot is more able at something than the worst human at that thing.
I exceed the average human at idiocy.
Exceeds the very limited parameter we used to define as “human performance.”
“Look, this robot’s arm can spin 360°! It exceeds human performance!”
Ok, can it get a glass out of the cabinet, put ice cubes in it, fill it with water and bring it to me?
I think you could have picked a more difficult metric, this is something i’m pretty sure the BD robots can actually do.
In a random home, then. A human would know what a refrigerator is, where the ice is (dispenser or freezer), check cabinets for cups/glasses, and operate the sink. The BD bots would likely have to have everything pre-mapped, RFID’d and/or programmed.
That robot looks like a wrong’un.
Well my time to scheduled su1c1de just fast forwarded a little, or we can also get a gun and blast these things before it gets out of hand
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I wish I didn’t feel somewhat similar, yet here I am…
I don’t think peaceful elderly life is in our future my friend
Honestly, I get the distinct impression that everything in the hunting section at your local Walmart is going to be woefully ineffective. May I recommend a defensive position with difficult to traverse stairs?
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Ok OK, probably not those last two, but something more like this
We are long pigs
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Finally, a technology related post in the technology community.
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The treasonous Automaton-sympathizing scum…
Vaseline…Invest in Vaseline when the robot army comes. They can’t do shit with Vaseline on their camera lenses.
I’m confused. Shouldn’t any robot exceed human performance? Even just in the ability to do repetitive tasks precisely without tiring. How is this news?
It is impressive to see the Boston Dynamics New Atals humanoid. It took them years of research and design to have this New Atlas 001 humanoid. we have to appreciate that. and to those who fear a dystopian future with humanoids in the workforce. Just adapt with time and reality or live in the past and become the past.