shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
on 13 Jan 2025 20:17
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We are in the then they fight you stage.
Garibaldee@lemm.ee
on 13 Jan 2025 20:18
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Owned by someone almost no one likes, shoves 1000s of ads down your throat, can’t even look at something someone else sent you because you don’t have an account. Why are people leaving???
AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca
on 13 Jan 2025 20:26
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Private company doesn’t allow promotion of competing product? That is just good business? No surprises here.
Rob200@discuss.tchncs.de
on 13 Jan 2025 21:25
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Even Nintendo allowed Sega’s Sonic Heroes to compete with Super Mario Sunshine on their own game conosle back in the day. What Meta is proposing is just restrictive censorship of the open internet and on creativity as I see it.
AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca
on 13 Jan 2025 22:02
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Nintendo allowed Sega’s Sonic Heroes to compete with Super Mario Sunshine on their own game conosle
99% sure that only happened after Sega stopped making competing consoles. IE more game content benefited their console platform
Rob200@discuss.tchncs.de
on 13 Jan 2025 22:09
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Yes, of course it was up to Sega whether they wanted their game on another’s console at any time. My point mainly was that Nintendo didn’t block a competing game. While yes, Nintendo would profit from a console sale over a 3rd party game. Yet, seemingly not just from a 3rd party game that sells.
As, I’m not sure if Nintendo would get a percent of a 3rd party devs profits. If that was the case that does sound about right. But not sure if that was the case.
AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca
on 13 Jan 2025 22:17
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console = network, game = content… is my argument.
IE Nintendo was happy to sell more units with Sega content, and sega moving to software / content had no choice but to sell on other platorms.
I’m not sure if Nintendo would get a percent of a 3rd party devs profits.
Nintendo makes money on EVERY cart sold and every electronic purchase… it is a major part of their EXPENSIVE model and why Nintendo platform games always seem more expensive. It is also why they still sell cart based systems so they are the ONLY supplier of the media, but now they have their own eStore as well.
Rob200@discuss.tchncs.de
on 13 Jan 2025 22:28
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As a supplier I can see that. But as a game developer on top of being a hardware manufacturer. Still seems like there would be some kind of counter of interest to their game selling potentially less copies to Sega’s to an extent. Many do just buy Nintendo’s games anyway. but what if that wasn’t the case one day.
We might be seeing some growing signs of that today, with many opting for games like Fortnite over Nintendo’s own games. Cod, wasn’t really competing on Nintendo’s console at the time when it was ported to Nintendo platforms since it was mainly driving people to other consoles with the better experience. (according to the fans of cod.)
So even if you look at their game platform like that, it’s not 100% the same since they also make content of their own. They are still competing with 3rd party games for profit.
Rooty@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2025 04:34
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A platform that prevents you from posting links on such a petty basis should not exist. Does McDonalds boot you out of their restaurants if you mention you prefer Burger King?
abeorch@friendica.ginestes.es
on 14 Jan 2025 14:33
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The issue is at the same time as making editorial and commercial decisions about what context is shown to people they rely on legal protections based on the fact they are a common carrier rather than having a degree of editorial control.
rtxn@lemmy.world
on 13 Jan 2025 20:29
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Not, it isn’t. It was most likely a spam filter. Images and longer messages work fine.
spireghost@lemmy.zip
on 13 Jan 2025 20:43
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I don’t get why people rush to the next replica platform that will go down the exact same path of overstimulating you / mentally harming you.
Just delete Instagram.
Don’t replace it.
NineMileTower@lemmy.world
on 13 Jan 2025 20:57
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I deleted instagram. I held on to Facebook for 2 reasons. One, marketplace has taken over as the only viable local resell platform. And Two, it’s the only platform I can use to share my music locally and vastly. I want my friends, family, and neighbors to hear my music and other than handing out a card with QR code to my Spotify, then I kind of stuck.
TachyonTele@lemm.ee
on 13 Jan 2025 21:17
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Just don’t use marketplace for apartment and house hunting. It’s filled to the brim with scammers.
NineMileTower@lemmy.world
on 13 Jan 2025 23:25
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I sold a bridge to someone on FB marketplace. I love it
I refuse to use Facebook even for Marketplace. I still have pretty good luck with Craigslist.
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
on 14 Jan 2025 05:29
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I don’t sell locally often but when I do, I use craigslist. It’s also great for picking up a cable modem on the cheap when moving into a new area (don’t have to deal with the ISP-supplied one).
blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
on 13 Jan 2025 21:03
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One advantage of Pixelfed is that it not a commercial company. So unlike Instagram, they do not have financial motivation to addict and exploit. So for people who are interested in seeing and sharing picture galleries, that seems like a good option to me.
(Personally I don’t use Instagram or Pixelfed, or any other similar service.)
I don’t get why people rush to the next replica platform that will go down the exact same path of overstimulating you / mentally harming you.
I think they get used to the level of stimulation and now feel “wrong” without it. It takes a certain self-awareness to realize that it would be healthier to recalibrate your expectations. (I don’t think Pixelfed is a comparatively harmful platform at the moment anyway, although I suppose it could someday become one.)
bitchkat@lemmy.world
on 13 Jan 2025 21:01
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Back when I was on Twitter (a couple of years ago now), all links to Mastodon were explicitly marked as “unsafe”, and posts containing such links were demoted. So it’s apparently kind of normal for these social media companies to attempt to choke new competition as early as possible.
umbraroze@lemmy.world
on 13 Jan 2025 23:24
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Funny thing, Pixelfed isn’t even a competitor to Instagram in the very very strictest sense.
Pixelfed is a federated service for posting photos.
Instagram started out as a service for posting photos, but it has become this… thing. I don’t even know anymore.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
on 13 Jan 2025 23:50
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but it has become this… thing.
It’s very appropriate to call Instagram now… a thing. The site just became something to post bragadacious, fake rich lifestyle photos, people wanting to become meme themselves, or scantily clad girls looking for attention for themselves if not for their OnlyFans.
TachyonTele@lemm.ee
on 14 Jan 2025 00:37
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bragadacious. I learneded a new english today.
Err I mean. Obviously I already knew the word and it’s meaning, and even how to say it. I know a lot of words. People always comment on how many words I know. Im just really smart, to be honest.
humancrayon@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jan 2025 15:22
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Only the best words?
ramirezmike@programming.dev
on 14 Jan 2025 16:09
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I find it useful for finding local events where I live, updates from local businesses and newspapers… it’s also cool for following artists or bands I care about.
Idk, it’s in a weird space between facebook, what twitter used to be and tiktok. It can be useful if you curate your feed right 🤷♂️
Ulrich@feddit.org
on 14 Jan 2025 00:20
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You don’t even see photos anymore. It is 99% videos at this point.
nokturne213@sopuli.xyz
on 14 Jan 2025 04:20
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Instagram started out as a camera filter app. Then you could post pictures. When I first downloaded it to my iPhone 3 it was only a filter. I was very confused when I tried it again on android years later.
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world
on 15 Jan 2025 04:13
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A misinformation-peddling service for the oligarchy?
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
on 13 Jan 2025 23:50
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I haven’t heard of PixelFed, but thanks for informing me and I shall go!
faeempress@groups.ymirc.com
on 14 Jan 2025 02:34
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lmao! Trashy Zuck!
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2025 03:25
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I"ve been on Pixelfed for three days and, sadly, it’s pretty underwhelming.
I’m going to give it a few weeks though and build up a feed.
ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2025 03:57
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Lemmy was pretty sparse on posts not that long ago. Time can help.
potustheplant@feddit.nl
on 14 Jan 2025 04:13
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Was?
WhatSay@slrpnk.net
on 14 Jan 2025 14:51
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Quality over quantity
potustheplant@feddit.nl
on 14 Jan 2025 15:47
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People are in denial downvoting you. The useful stuff is still mostly on Reddit. I’m committed to the decentralized option but there’s no use pretending.
priapus@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Jan 2025 15:30
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You might be spending too much time on Lemmy if you’re still finding it lacking in content. Unless you’re referring to the amount of content in niche communities, in which case I’d agree.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2025 16:31
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Old enough to remember when you could get to the “end of Twitter”, because you’d swiped through all the active posts of the day.
arapirilous@lemm.ee
on 14 Jan 2025 04:36
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Yeah sadly there’s not much people on there.
MITM0@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2025 06:53
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Try MetaPixl
murph@lemmy.sdf.org
on 14 Jan 2025 14:09
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Remember, there is no algorithm pushing people towards you, look around, follow people, and see who they follow.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world
on 15 Jan 2025 02:42
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My problem with decentralised social Media currently is that it’s entirely unencrypted and publically viewable.
I don’t mind so much on services like Lemmy where it’s a bit of fun to make comments and post random things without it being directly linked to your identity (though I am aware the content is still likely being scraped by someone somewhere).
I’d really love a Facebook/Instagram replacement, but end-to-end encrypted where only the people you’ve given permission to can view your content.
No idea how this would be achieved, but PixelFed is pretty useless unless you’re posting publically.
bilb@lem.monster
on 15 Jan 2025 02:53
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I think that’s closer to what Diaspora hoped to achieve, but maybe I’m misremembering some details.
MisterFrog@lemmy.world
on 15 Jan 2025 04:07
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Close, but it appears admins of instances have access to your info, sadly :/
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 15 Jan 2025 04:32
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Okay, so if you’re doing something like a craft business and putting your portfolio out, Pixelfed can do that. Probably don’t do personal shit.
TotalSonic@lemmy.world
on 15 Jan 2025 05:18
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That’s what the FUTO Circles project was supposed to be about, but sadly the project got ditched by the original devs for it only a year after it started. Info on that here - youtu.be/OKTOhxeKrK0?si=NKvI6Esp3c33DG96
MisterFrog@lemmy.world
on 15 Jan 2025 21:20
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Nooooooo! That sounded perfect. The app is still up but it’s entirely missing from their website :(
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
on 14 Jan 2025 05:30
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If you’re running an instance why not just cut the shit and block Meta?
uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 14 Jan 2025 06:47
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Zucky is feeling insecure.
I’d say provide links (maybe in an escape hub page) for all the Meta main service pages, to assert dominance.
If you want to be nasty, track how often those links have been clicked. (Meta can’t win. If it’s too low, it shows nobody wants to go there. If it’s too high, it means people are using the page as a Meta hub.)
MITM0@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2025 06:53
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Funny how it was outrageous when Musk did it, and now it’s already common and accepted…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 14 Jan 2025 16:28
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I’m old enough to remember Nintendo suing GameGenie for making the test codes on their games more broadly accessible. And Apple suing indie firms that made 3rd party peripherals for their devices. Don’t forget Microsoft’s unholy war on Netscape Navigator, as they deliberately tried to sabotage the popular third party web browser from working via various Microsoft updates. Hell, I think you can find case law in the 1920s on Ford Motor Company fighting spare parts manufacturers and trying to box them out of the industry. Corporate dinosaurs fighting to keep startups from interfacing with their products is a tale as old as time.
Historically, Facebook/Google/Twitter/et al were focused on integrating with common systems, because they were the underdogs struggling against firms like Microsoft and Comcast who were trying to maintain their Walled Garden. Now they’re kings of the hill, pushing competition off their doorstep.
Its sleazy and toxic and ultimately bad for the industry as a whole. But its nothing new.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
on 15 Jan 2025 04:52
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Microsoft’s
I would have sworn you wrote McDonalds the first time, and I was like wtf went on there that I had no idea about, until you got to the 2nd Microsoft.
threaded - newest
We are in the then they fight you stage.
Owned by someone almost no one likes, shoves 1000s of ads down your throat, can’t even look at something someone else sent you because you don’t have an account. Why are people leaving???
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Private company doesn’t allow promotion of competing product? That is just good business? No surprises here.
Even Nintendo allowed Sega’s Sonic Heroes to compete with Super Mario Sunshine on their own game conosle back in the day. What Meta is proposing is just restrictive censorship of the open internet and on creativity as I see it.
99% sure that only happened after Sega stopped making competing consoles. IE more game content benefited their console platform
Yes, of course it was up to Sega whether they wanted their game on another’s console at any time. My point mainly was that Nintendo didn’t block a competing game. While yes, Nintendo would profit from a console sale over a 3rd party game. Yet, seemingly not just from a 3rd party game that sells. As, I’m not sure if Nintendo would get a percent of a 3rd party devs profits. If that was the case that does sound about right. But not sure if that was the case.
console = network, game = content… is my argument.
IE Nintendo was happy to sell more units with Sega content, and sega moving to software / content had no choice but to sell on other platorms.
Nintendo makes money on EVERY cart sold and every electronic purchase… it is a major part of their EXPENSIVE model and why Nintendo platform games always seem more expensive. It is also why they still sell cart based systems so they are the ONLY supplier of the media, but now they have their own eStore as well.
As a supplier I can see that. But as a game developer on top of being a hardware manufacturer. Still seems like there would be some kind of counter of interest to their game selling potentially less copies to Sega’s to an extent. Many do just buy Nintendo’s games anyway. but what if that wasn’t the case one day.
We might be seeing some growing signs of that today, with many opting for games like Fortnite over Nintendo’s own games. Cod, wasn’t really competing on Nintendo’s console at the time when it was ported to Nintendo platforms since it was mainly driving people to other consoles with the better experience. (according to the fans of cod.)
So even if you look at their game platform like that, it’s not 100% the same since they also make content of their own. They are still competing with 3rd party games for profit.
A platform that prevents you from posting links on such a petty basis should not exist. Does McDonalds boot you out of their restaurants if you mention you prefer Burger King?
@AlternateRoute
@blind3rdeye
The issue is at the same time as making editorial and commercial decisions about what context is shown to people they rely on legal protections based on the fact they are a common carrier rather than having a degree of editorial control.
Not, it isn’t. It was most likely a spam filter. Images and longer messages work fine.
I don’t get why people rush to the next replica platform that will go down the exact same path of overstimulating you / mentally harming you.
Just delete Instagram.
Don’t replace it.
I deleted instagram. I held on to Facebook for 2 reasons. One, marketplace has taken over as the only viable local resell platform. And Two, it’s the only platform I can use to share my music locally and vastly. I want my friends, family, and neighbors to hear my music and other than handing out a card with QR code to my Spotify, then I kind of stuck.
Just don’t use marketplace for apartment and house hunting. It’s filled to the brim with scammers.
I sold a bridge to someone on FB marketplace. I love it
I refuse to use Facebook even for Marketplace. I still have pretty good luck with Craigslist.
I don’t sell locally often but when I do, I use craigslist. It’s also great for picking up a cable modem on the cheap when moving into a new area (don’t have to deal with the ISP-supplied one).
One advantage of Pixelfed is that it not a commercial company. So unlike Instagram, they do not have financial motivation to addict and exploit. So for people who are interested in seeing and sharing picture galleries, that seems like a good option to me.
(Personally I don’t use Instagram or Pixelfed, or any other similar service.)
Lemmy FTW
I think they get used to the level of stimulation and now feel “wrong” without it. It takes a certain self-awareness to realize that it would be healthier to recalibrate your expectations. (I don’t think Pixelfed is a comparatively harmful platform at the moment anyway, although I suppose it could someday become one.)
Lemmy.world too. At least in admin chat.
When?
Last week. Was is admin chat talking about moving a group to lemmy. And FB deleted admin chat posts containing links to lemmy.world.
So not .world, it was Facebook?
Edit. Ah! Im slow lol I get you now. FB removed the lemmy link. Thanks
hah thanks for your line of questioning. I too initially thought they were saying LW was blocking PixelFed.
Meta says it was a mistake
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Absent present context, that sentence suggests a degree and quality of corporate self-awareness that one can only dream of.
and don’t think they won’t start blocking mentions of Mastodon. unless, they won’t since Mastodon is just known for being a Twitter alternative.
Make Mastodon known for replacing any and all corporate social media. That’l get em.
Back when I was on Twitter (a couple of years ago now), all links to Mastodon were explicitly marked as “unsafe”, and posts containing such links were demoted. So it’s apparently kind of normal for these social media companies to attempt to choke new competition as early as possible.
Funny thing, Pixelfed isn’t even a competitor to Instagram in the very very strictest sense.
Pixelfed is a federated service for posting photos.
Instagram started out as a service for posting photos, but it has become this… thing. I don’t even know anymore.
It’s very appropriate to call Instagram now… a thing. The site just became something to post bragadacious, fake rich lifestyle photos, people wanting to become meme themselves, or scantily clad girls looking for attention for themselves if not for their OnlyFans.
bragadacious. I learneded a new english today.
Err I mean. Obviously I already knew the word and it’s meaning, and even how to say it. I know a lot of words. People always comment on how many words I know. Im just really smart, to be honest.
Ok
whoosh
Nope, I fear whooosh yourself 😁
Only the best words?
I find it useful for finding local events where I live, updates from local businesses and newspapers… it’s also cool for following artists or bands I care about.
Idk, it’s in a weird space between facebook, what twitter used to be and tiktok. It can be useful if you curate your feed right 🤷♂️
You don’t even see photos anymore. It is 99% videos at this point.
And the 1% is adverts?
The adverts are videos also
Instagram started out as a camera filter app. Then you could post pictures. When I first downloaded it to my iPhone 3 it was only a filter. I was very confused when I tried it again on android years later.
A misinformation-peddling service for the oligarchy?
I haven’t heard of PixelFed, but thanks for informing me and I shall go!
lmao! Trashy Zuck!
I"ve been on Pixelfed for three days and, sadly, it’s pretty underwhelming.
I’m going to give it a few weeks though and build up a feed.
Lemmy was pretty sparse on posts not that long ago. Time can help.
Was?
Quality over quantity
Yeah, right.
People are in denial downvoting you. The useful stuff is still mostly on Reddit. I’m committed to the decentralized option but there’s no use pretending.
You might be spending too much time on Lemmy if you’re still finding it lacking in content. Unless you’re referring to the amount of content in niche communities, in which case I’d agree.
Old enough to remember when you could get to the “end of Twitter”, because you’d swiped through all the active posts of the day.
Yeah sadly there’s not much people on there.
Try MetaPixl
Remember, there is no algorithm pushing people towards you, look around, follow people, and see who they follow.
My problem with decentralised social Media currently is that it’s entirely unencrypted and publically viewable.
I don’t mind so much on services like Lemmy where it’s a bit of fun to make comments and post random things without it being directly linked to your identity (though I am aware the content is still likely being scraped by someone somewhere).
I’d really love a Facebook/Instagram replacement, but end-to-end encrypted where only the people you’ve given permission to can view your content.
No idea how this would be achieved, but PixelFed is pretty useless unless you’re posting publically.
I think that’s closer to what Diaspora hoped to achieve, but maybe I’m misremembering some details.
Close, but it appears admins of instances have access to your info, sadly :/
Okay, so if you’re doing something like a craft business and putting your portfolio out, Pixelfed can do that. Probably don’t do personal shit.
That’s what the FUTO Circles project was supposed to be about, but sadly the project got ditched by the original devs for it only a year after it started. Info on that here - youtu.be/OKTOhxeKrK0?si=NKvI6Esp3c33DG96
Nooooooo! That sounded perfect. The app is still up but it’s entirely missing from their website :(
Thanks for sharing
There is Diaspora, it is like a federated Facebook with a bit more privacy settings. All crickets now that everyone moved on to Mastodon.
There’s encrypted p2p stuff with nice apps like Scuttlebutt with Manyverse app, but nobody uses it.
There’s Movim which builds a social network layer over XMPP, so you can share to your contacts. Guess what - nobody uses it.
Unfortunately none of these are end-to-end encrypted (I believe). Thanks though!
Follow hashtags for things you’re interested in too.
Oof looks like they’re down for the count on top of it
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d2037d8c-c23c-4704-88ee-8a37bfd9ef27.png">
If you’re running an instance why not just cut the shit and block Meta?
Zucky is feeling insecure.
I’d say provide links (maybe in an escape hub page) for all the Meta main service pages, to assert dominance.
If you want to be nasty, track how often those links have been clicked. (Meta can’t win. If it’s too low, it shows nobody wants to go there. If it’s too high, it means people are using the page as a Meta hub.)
Of course they are
Funny how it was outrageous when Musk did it, and now it’s already common and accepted…
I’m old enough to remember Nintendo suing GameGenie for making the test codes on their games more broadly accessible. And Apple suing indie firms that made 3rd party peripherals for their devices. Don’t forget Microsoft’s unholy war on Netscape Navigator, as they deliberately tried to sabotage the popular third party web browser from working via various Microsoft updates. Hell, I think you can find case law in the 1920s on Ford Motor Company fighting spare parts manufacturers and trying to box them out of the industry. Corporate dinosaurs fighting to keep startups from interfacing with their products is a tale as old as time.
Historically, Facebook/Google/Twitter/et al were focused on integrating with common systems, because they were the underdogs struggling against firms like Microsoft and Comcast who were trying to maintain their Walled Garden. Now they’re kings of the hill, pushing competition off their doorstep.
Its sleazy and toxic and ultimately bad for the industry as a whole. But its nothing new.
I would have sworn you wrote McDonalds the first time, and I was like wtf went on there that I had no idea about, until you got to the 2nd Microsoft.
Yea, antitrust is nothing new, I agree
But musk was first banning specific URLs from being posted on a social network for other reasons than security or piracy.
And as a note, it seems that facebook after all only had a bad spam protection automation rather than malicious intent 🤔
App came out and looking super solid <333
This is why we gotta ban TikTok!!! \s
What would the EU think of this?