Secret meeting between Apple and TSMC reported, possibly to reserve all 2nm capacity (9to5mac.com)
from boem@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 05:47
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RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 06:25 next collapse

Secret meeting … reported

That’s not how secrets work at all.

Fishytricks@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 06:55 collapse

I think you’re thinking of secret secret meetings.

tsonfeir@lemm.ee on 21 May 2024 06:56 next collapse

Illuminapple

TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 07:25 next collapse

Those happen in the volcano lair

anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 May 2024 00:39 collapse

Ah yes, those unknown unknowns

Drusenija@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 07:15 next collapse

Oh crap. I shouldn’t have said there was a meeting. Oh crap. I definitely shouldn’t have said it was a secret. Oh crap. I absolutely should not have said it was to reserve all our 2nm chip capacity.

Oh, it’s too hot today.

kamen@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 09:03 next collapse

Talk about information “leaks” these days…

Speculater@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 10:33 collapse

They’re just pre-ads at this point.

kamen@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 12:16 next collapse

Yep, I see it the same way. Fake sensationalism to keep people engaged.

I’m sure actual leaks also do happen from time to time, but way less often than they make us think.

drawerair@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 19:05 collapse

Re real leaks, Mark Gurman seems legit. When Gurman reported something, then I awaited Apple’s announcement, the official thing matched what Gurman said.

catloaf@lemm.ee on 21 May 2024 16:23 collapse

For commercial products, they always have been.

muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee on 21 May 2024 11:34 next collapse

Does secret mean something new now?

[deleted] on 21 May 2024 14:31 collapse

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drawerair@lemmy.world on 21 May 2024 19:13 next collapse

The 3-nanometer thing was classic anticompetitive behavior right? Will the European union or the American government investigate Apple?

Tsmc surely is in a class of its own. The other Arm cpu makers are lagging.

I’m awaiting the M4 Macbook air. I wanna see the performance comparison between it and a Windows 💻 with a 2024 Intel cpu.

geophysicist@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 May 2024 20:29 collapse

Why are the 2nm chips important? I wouldn’t guess that the chip is the bit restricting the size of a phone or laptop, it’s the battery and the LCD screen and all that stuff.

DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml on 21 May 2024 21:51 next collapse

Aside from letting you cram more circuitry onto the same size chip, smaller transistors means you can get better power efficiency and reduce heat output.

Basically, even if you just take an existing design and use it to make chips at a smaller node size, you get chips which run cooler and with less power. Those chips can then get you the same performance with better efficiency (e.g. same speed but better battery life), or you can crank up the speed so that you get more speed for the same amount of power as the original.

And as mentioned above, because the transistors are smaller, you can fit more stuff onto the chip. So you can make even more complex chips which also still run more efficiently than their predecessors (both because of the direct power savings from using smaller transistors, and because designs become more efficient).

CrayonRosary@lemmy.world on 25 May 2024 18:04 next collapse

It means the transistors and things are each 2 nm, not the whole chip. Just in case you were confused about that.

Smaller chips requires less power to run.

n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 29 May 23:16 collapse

You could have 2 if the exact same processors one built on 3nm and one built on 2 nm, the 2nm chip would be any where from 15-30% faster and more power efficient too