House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to investigate Wikipedia over allegations of organized bias (oversight.house.gov)
from Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 08:51
https://programming.dev/post/36455303

cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36435178

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DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org on 28 Aug 08:53 next collapse

Good thing I downloaded it then because it’s probably going to be blocked in the US next.

Fredselfish@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 11:08 collapse

How do you download Wikipedia?

merde@sh.itjust.works on 28 Aug 12:42 next collapse
Moose@moose.best on 28 Aug 16:36 next collapse

Kiwix is probably the easiest way.

DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org on 28 Aug 20:46 collapse

Easiest way is via Kiwix.

LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Aug 09:06 next collapse

It begins.

floo@retrolemmy.com on 28 Aug 09:39 next collapse

It began 10 years ago. This is just the latest.

You are in boiling water, frog

vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Aug 12:10 next collapse

It began in 1983, somewhere around TCP/IP becoming a thing.

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Aug 15:55 collapse

400+ years ago at least…

floo@retrolemmy.com on 28 Aug 09:39 next collapse

Is there something illegal about that? If Wikipedia has organizational bias, it’s covered by their first amendment right.

DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org on 28 Aug 09:51 next collapse

A right that’s getting rapidly eroded. Like, 1A is a right that’s pretty much reduced to only existing on paper at this point and some politicians are probably looking for a way to erase it from the Constitution entirely.

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 05:11 collapse

Or replace it with the conservative version, which states: white men have the right to call black people the hard-R N-word, without consequences, including getting called racist, losing friends, losing employment opportunities.

Weirdmusic@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 10:10 next collapse

You have “The right to free speech (as long as you’re not dumb enough to actually try it)”.

The Clash

BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 11:24 next collapse

Oh, boy, you must be new here.

iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 15:07 collapse

rights for thee not for me

manxu@piefed.social on 28 Aug 10:02 next collapse

Scientific proof that we are in the dumbest timeline.

iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 15:07 collapse
elucubra@piefed.social on 28 Aug 10:13 next collapse

What the hell does the house oversight comitee have to do with a private endeavor?

Even if there was such bias, doesn't the 1st amendment cover it, as it does Fox, for example?

Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub on 28 Aug 13:34 next collapse

  1. Nothing
  2. They just needed an excuse. You believing it isn’t a concern.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 28 Aug 16:48 collapse

forgot about Epstein yet?

DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works on 28 Aug 10:35 next collapse

On July 4, 2026, nothing happened on Lafayette Square in Washington, DC, USA.

(And if something happened, its because they were viOlEnT riOToRs and we had to send in the tanks to restore LaW aNd oRdEr!!!)

kikutwo@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 11:36 next collapse

I’d say when open source seems organized against you, you might be the problem.

fluxion@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 12:12 collapse

Reality has a non-frothing-at-the-mouth-oblivious-cult-member bias to it

vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Aug 15:20 collapse

But that really is a bias too. Everything has a bias relative to most existing points of view. That’s why the “free speech” thing was invented, because when your world is larger than one isolated village or even one isolated, even if moving, royal court, then you can’t make everyone think the same subjectively correct way. Free speech was a way for nations to survive modernization. There are more dimensions to the world than any single person understands enough to not be what you said. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is an idiot in something and would want to shut everyone up in that dimension.

Not only it’s a right first and foremost of those you disagree with, though, but it also can’t ever be based on good will. It can only be based on inability to break by force. Like any other institution.

I think many bad things in our reality are due to reliance on good will having been covertly put into many key places of the mechanisms.

Asafum@feddit.nl on 28 Aug 11:56 next collapse

“Anything that says Hitler was bad, slavery was bad, and that Donald Trump isn’t literally God is biased and must be changed!”

iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 15:05 collapse

changed=needs to be 187’d I hope that ice or a gop, or christian bible thumper come at me, I have no problems planting evidence like a cop would saying it was self defense

cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone on 28 Aug 11:59 next collapse

to be fair their thing is whining about shit for a day then moving on to different shit to whine about

fluxion@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 12:10 next collapse

Fuck you fuck you fuck you. Investigate Truth Social, Twitter, the Smithsonian, the FBI, the DOJ, the President, Congress, the DoD, the DoE, the NSA, and the Supreme Court, if you are worried about bias.

iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 15:04 collapse

might as well say hunt down and take out

dan1101@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 12:40 next collapse

There is nothing to investigate, Wikipedia is a private organization and if it has a bias it is none of the government’s business.

The party of “small government?” “Don’t tread on me?” What the hell happened, Republicans?

thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Aug 13:10 next collapse

Facism happened. Governement run by Captialists.

Eldritch@piefed.world on 28 Aug 15:35 collapse

Yep back in the 1930s.

thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Aug 15:39 collapse

pretty much predicted by Jack London in The Iron Heel in 1908 but people have been saying it longer than that.

Eldritch@piefed.world on 28 Aug 15:44 collapse

Yep. The United States was one of the bigest inspirations for Nazi Germany. It goes back to the countries founding unfortunately.

fox2263@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 13:29 next collapse

That’s only when it’s private companies they like.

db2@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 13:43 next collapse

That was always an obvious lie.

CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Aug 13:48 next collapse

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

Conservatives only care about small government when they are the ones being oppressed by the federal government. Like when Congress passed laws banning slavery.

But they care about federal laws being forced onto states when they are the ones doing the oppressing. Like when they passed the Fugitive Slave Act.

They don’t care about their hypocrisy and, if anything, makes them want to do it more.

grue@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 14:48 next collapse

You forgot the scare quotes around “oppressed.”

They don’t care about their hypocrisy and, if anything, makes them want to do it more.

Hypocrisy is a feature because it serves as a demonstration of their power and impunity. The message is “of course we’re being blatantly hypocritical; what are you gonna do about it, peasant?”

ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 07:25 collapse

In Hungary we have a saying: “The problem isn’t what he did, but that he was busted doing it.” since the Gábor Kaleta and József Szájer cases, and the Hungarian PragerU clone Axióma kind of implied this, essentially saying “leftist hypocrisy proves that the left’s views are unfeasible, rightist hypocrisy proves that people on the right are humans first and foremost”.

vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Aug 15:14 collapse

Sorry, but that’s all permanent political -isms. To find -isms which are not centered around that proposition, you have to leave politics and look for various ephemeral ideas, which only become popular in response to disturbances.

unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works on 28 Aug 18:48 next collapse

They only ever cared about white supremacy. All that other stuff was bullshit.

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 29 Aug 15:21 collapse

Every time I see a Don’t tread on me flag, 50/50 it’s also flown side by side with a thin blue line flag. Makes me cringe

NoodlePoint@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 15:41 next collapse

They’re scared of self-governing NGOs and free fonts of knowledge.

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2b1546af-aca0-41ed-83d0-e59950bb6c5f.jpeg">

technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Aug 15:54 next collapse

Yes, truth and reality have a bias against fascism.

7toed@midwest.social on 28 Aug 16:09 next collapse

Selfhosters, that is your cue if you haven’t already made at least a local mirror

handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip on 28 Aug 16:32 next collapse

If you don’t have a [Kiwix Server] spun up, do it today!(kiwix.org/en/)

HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Aug 21:37 collapse

This is a very neat thing, thanks for sharing!

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 28 Aug 16:47 next collapse

aaaand just donated another $100 to Wikipedia.

SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works on 28 Aug 16:57 next collapse

Looks like it’s back to Encarta for me, looking forward to Mind Maze

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 17:11 next collapse

Organized bias is illegal? Of course in this context its simply the truth.

iAvicenna@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 17:31 next collapse

“organized bias” lmfao. Did you you mean jewish lobbies getting people fired and Israeli state flooding google ads with war propaganda?

phoenixz@lemmy.ca on 28 Aug 17:42 next collapse

In other words, they’re not publishing the propaganda of the new fascist US government?

Frostbeard@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 17:58 next collapse

Can’t it just relocate to say… Switzerland

SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 18:04 next collapse

If the US tries to kill Wikipedia I’m actually forming a militia

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Aug 21:42 next collapse

I’ll join

Doomsider@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 03:41 collapse

the wilitia

BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 29 Aug 04:49 next collapse

Like… You should probably get to work organizing then because they’re already doing it.

buddascrayon@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 05:01 collapse

They can try… Wikipedia has been bolstering themselves against this exact kind of attack for many years. They’ve made the entirety of the site completely downloadable for literally anyone to make and keep a copy and lots of people do (though the more the better).

The Wikimedia corporation that runs the actual site may have to ensure that it’s incorporated in a different country though.

SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 17:27 collapse

I have an offline copy with no pictures from like February.

But if Wikipedia is ever shut down then there goes the best resource for recording human society and history

buddascrayon@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 20:24 collapse

If they cant manage to shut down TPB 🏴‍☠️, they sure as shit sint gonna be able to shut down Wikipedia.

RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world on 28 Aug 18:16 next collapse

Oh look, it’s HUAC II!

rbos@lemmy.ca on 28 Aug 18:23 next collapse

So what if it was?

pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Aug 21:44 next collapse

1st amendment mf. Wikipedia can have an article convincing people 2+2=5 if they want and it is protected speech you fascist assholes.

Ileftreddit@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 04:57 next collapse

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ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 05:27 next collapse

The biases:

  1. Calls Israel’s genocide a genocide.
  2. Does not state, that the “judeo-christian” god is real, and that the creation myth is real. Does not state that evolution is a “discredited theory”, using arguments from the Discovery Institute as citations.
  3. States that trans people exists, citations point to actual studies, articles don’t automatically redirect to an article about “narcissistic personality disorder”, currently existing article on NPD does not list “gender confusion” as a potential sympthom, and no links to websites of christian “psychologists” (read: theologists with a doctorate) offering “therapy” (read: exorcism, forced prayer, forced conversion to fundamentalist christianity.
  4. Does not call liberalism a “childish psychosis”.
  5. Lists actual COVID death numbers, does not call mRNA vaccines “modified RNA”, does not reserve autism spectrum disorder only for boys that are extremely low functioning.
thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works on 29 Aug 20:32 collapse

don’t forget climate change

billwashere@lemmy.world on 29 Aug 16:40 collapse

So the truth is organized bias?!?