Is there a community where I can get news about technology as in science, as opposed to "drama involving tech companies"?
from nycki@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 20:33
https://lemmy.world/post/22514253

I’m just not interested in hearing what bullshit FAANG is up to, I want to talk about linux kernel patches and raspberry pi revisions and maybe hear what people other than grifters are doing with neural networks.

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iii@mander.xyz on 27 Nov 2024 20:46 next collapse

If you don’t want drama, then Torvalds’ work might not be the best project to follow

Valmond@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 20:54 next collapse

Linux drama good drama IMO

pivot_root@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 01:41 next collapse

I do enjoy some crusty C developers arguing with rusty not-C developers every once in a while.

SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org on 28 Nov 2024 06:22 collapse

bcachefs 👌

cm0002@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 21:29 collapse

There are exceptions to every rule LMAO

simplejack@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 20:48 next collapse

I’ve wanted something like that as well. I’m currently playing around with BlueSky feeds to get streams of science and technology content. Lemmy’s technology communities are often tech drama and or Linux stuff, and miss out on other things that are happening in the industry.

Iapar@feddit.org on 27 Nov 2024 23:41 next collapse

If you put it into a starter pack, let me know.

darkstar@sh.itjust.works on 28 Nov 2024 13:38 collapse

Ah please could you post some recommendations on who to follow on Bluesky?

Magister@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 20:56 next collapse

maybe slashdot.org but it’s not a community per see

Addv4@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 21:03 next collapse

Phys.org or maybe nature? They’re mostly just seem to be reposts of journals or Nature articles, but they don’t usually have drama and can often be rather interesting. They aren’t necessarily about technology, just scientific advances which is a nice change from all of the enshitification news that almost any tech hub is blaring.

ch00f@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 21:07 next collapse

Check out hackaday maybe? It’s primarily hobbyist stuff, but they’ve been peppering in some original pieces about tech innovations and trends.

At the very least, nobody is trying to sell you anything.

TheEntity@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 21:15 next collapse

You’ll probably enjoy Lobsters: lobste.rs

rwdf@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 21:33 next collapse

I concur. It’s like HN but with less AI/VC BS.

morrowind@lemmy.ml on 28 Nov 2024 00:35 collapse

Little too programming focused though, not much tech news

can@sh.itjust.works on 27 Nov 2024 22:34 next collapse

Is it still invite only? I’ve been curious. I have Tildes.

Edit: I should probably just lurk. I don’t comment on tildes anyway. Don’t feel my comment style is up to the standard lol.

redshift@lemmy.ml on 28 Nov 2024 06:48 next collapse

Do you know if they have any plan to stop requiring invites? I’ve been interested for many years, but the invite system rubs me the wrong way.

TheEntity@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 13:55 next collapse

I don’t think so. It’s probably what keeps it small and more personal. There is also the notion of responsibility: if a person I invite causes trouble, it’s potentially on me. Maybe not on the first infraction, but if one invites 20 spammers/cryptobros/venturecapitalists, it’s reasonable to block the inviter too.

I’m not arguing one way or another (that’s not my decision anyway), but I can understand why they do this.

0x0@programming.dev on 28 Nov 2024 18:29 collapse

There’s a mastodon bot… but it’s one-way of course.

pcouy@lemmy.pierre-couy.fr on 28 Nov 2024 18:40 collapse

A blog post I wrote got shared there a while back, but I did not ask for an invite back then. 2 years later, and I don’t feel legitimate to ask for an invite anymore

gaterush@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 21:24 next collapse

Hacker news still going strong, you get the drama stories here and there but the focus is on the technology

Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works on 27 Nov 2024 21:24 next collapse

If you are looking for a video format, there is the “Research Road” series on the channel “The Roads with Beau”, which is usually a political channel. It is AI narrated, but the people behind the channel are genuine and well informed.

independantiste@sh.itjust.works on 27 Nov 2024 21:26 next collapse

Hacker News is probably your best bet as long as you don’t go too deep in the comments

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 27 Nov 2024 21:36 next collapse

Every tech community devolves into Musk/Microsoft/Linux drama pretty quickly. It’s pathetic.

WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 22:50 next collapse

That’s because tech peaked a while back. Tech news is basically about the next hustle to keep the funding coming in while producing nothing truly useful.

AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works on 28 Nov 2024 00:57 next collapse

Tech is still producing lots of useful stuff. AI for example can actually be very useful. It’s just not as generalist as the marketers would have us believe. For specific targeted tasks, it can be amazing.

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 28 Nov 2024 01:45 next collapse

Technically absolutely did not peak a while back.
Journalism online is just full of a lot of dumb bullshit.

actually@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 16:43 collapse

Yes, what we have here in this thread is a reaction to the collapse of tech news.

It’s still exponentially growing in all fields with tens of millions of brilliant technical and scientific people. It’s just that the reporting of it has collapsed due to … gasp… technology advancement which upset the economic model which supported reporting and well written articles.

That, and the fact things are advancing so fast nobody a clue what is going on outside their specific interests

babybus@sh.itjust.works on 28 Nov 2024 06:55 next collapse

“Elon Musk said that he eats babies” is not tech news regardless of whether tech peaked or not.

mPony@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 16:46 next collapse

Technology did not peak. “News” peaked. We are definitely on a downhill slope for news.

Actual Journalism is much more rare than it needs to be.

blazeknave@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 17:03 collapse

Yeah, there’s rarely new tech most people care about, just consumer product updates.

I work almost exclusively with early stage companies with major innovation and patents. APIs, InfoSec, etc aren’t sexy enough to make these communities.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 29 Nov 2024 05:16 collapse

They’re sexy to me…

catloaf@lemm.ee on 28 Nov 2024 03:15 collapse

Only if moderators don’t moderate. I don’t know what it is about tech communities, but it always seems to happen with these more than others.

mesamunefire@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 21:36 next collapse

Probably Hackaday. lemmy.world/c/hackaday@rss.ponder.cat

Mr_Blott@feddit.uk on 28 Nov 2024 05:54 collapse

Link - !hackaday@rss.ponder.cat

Fuck knows why Lemmy doesn’t link to both the same way, seems daft

otter@lemmy.ca on 27 Nov 2024 21:44 next collapse

I use this community for that: !tech@programming.dev

The rules seem to be aligned with what you’re looking for.

Plus other communities on that instance depending on what you’re interested in.

Then there are feeds like !hackernews@lemmit.online to keep up with content on other sites. There are lots of RSS feed communities through the rss.ponder.cat/communities instance

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 28 Nov 2024 16:10 next collapse

Warning: those mods are trigger happy and abuse their rights (eg by banning content from Foss projects)

catloaf@lemm.ee on 29 Nov 2024 03:20 collapse

There is only one mod of each of those communities. !tech@programming.dev has not removed any content like that from what I can see, and !hackernews@lemmit.online has no removed posts at all.

realitista@lemm.ee on 28 Nov 2024 17:18 next collapse

Hacker news is empty for me…?

otter@lemmy.ca on 29 Nov 2024 04:50 collapse

I linked the wrong community earlier and then changed it

If the lemmit one also looks empty, it could be because you are the first person in your instance to come across the community. If you subscribe, it should start pulling the contents so you can see it.

It doesn’t look like lemm.ee blocked it so hopefully the stuff above is the cause

JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl on 29 Nov 2024 10:18 collapse

Literally the 2nd post on !tech@programming.dev is about mega corporations financials. Many other posts are about legal cases of megacorporations.

It seems to be less about technology, and more about the market and software drama/politics.

At least no musk spam.

otter@lemmy.ca on 29 Nov 2024 10:26 collapse

It’s not supposed to be since the rules say

Things that don’t fit

  • Minor app updates
  • Government legislation
  • Company news
  • Opinion pieces

I’ll report the post and see what the mods do, likely they didn’t see it yet

This seems like an area where there’s demand for a carefully moderated community, even if there is less content over all. That might help with the state of tech news that other comments are mentioning

can@sh.itjust.works on 27 Nov 2024 22:00 next collapse

I’m working on finding a focus for !technology@sh.itjust.works

Edit: open to suggestions

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 28 Nov 2024 16:11 collapse

Warning: those mods are trigger happy and abuse their rights (eg by banning content from Foss projects)

RxBrad@infosec.pub on 28 Nov 2024 17:49 next collapse

Are we sure about that? Kinda just looks like it’s a mostly-empty community. (4 posts in the last 15 days, then nothing until 9 months ago)

Also, this comment is getting copypasta’d onto multiple different unrelated suggestions.

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 28 Nov 2024 18:33 collapse

It was pasted exactly two times in the two communities where this is an issue.

Yes. I’m sure.

catloaf@lemm.ee on 29 Nov 2024 03:13 collapse

You’re replying to the only mod of that community, and I don’t see actions like that in the mod log.

RxBrad@infosec.pub on 29 Nov 2024 15:39 collapse

Yep. Sometimes I think people forget that the modlog is public here.

Show me the “banning content from Foss projects”, @jagged_circle@feddit.nl :

sh.itjust.works/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemov…

sh.itjust.works/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemov…

Chef_Boyargee@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 22:08 next collapse

Might scope out the forums and comments sections at Ars Technica. There’s a wealth of information from a ton of the regulars.

taladar@sh.itjust.works on 27 Nov 2024 22:34 next collapse

LWN is good for Linux kernel related content.

Static_Rocket@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 22:57 next collapse

I like phoronix.com but don’t bother reading the article comments.

pivot_root@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 01:35 collapse

Or sometimes do read the comments as a reminder on why you shouldn’t.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 29 Nov 2024 05:18 collapse

That’s what I do with local news articles, I try to read the comments every few months just to remind myself who my neighbors are…

DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world on 27 Nov 2024 23:59 next collapse

That’s what news means

This is about tech related news

vulture_god@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Nov 2024 00:17 next collapse

Check out 404 media! I’m a big supporter of independent media, but there’s been a real lack of high quality, competent tech journalism for the last few years.

They launched in the last few months and I’ve been pretty impressed with their coverage so far.

Even their coverage though could be called at the intersection of current events <> technology. When I want pure tech news, I usually watch YouTube channels that specialize in related topics ( like Asionometry for silicon design or Dave2d for device reviews).

ComradeMiao@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 01:57 collapse

Thanks for explaining them! I’ve seen links there without knowing about it

Lemminary@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 10:43 collapse

Same here. I’ve just gone through their feed and I recognize a good portion of the headlines.

Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works on 28 Nov 2024 01:09 next collapse

Good post. I have 3 new subs now thanks to the comments :D

mox@lemmy.sdf.org on 28 Nov 2024 05:35 next collapse

IMHO, this community should be about technology. Novel inventions. Interesting or creative applications. Discoveries. Dangers, advances, impacts, experiments, tutorials, etc.

Instead, it’s overrun with stock market and business news having no more to do with technology than CEOs of wood pulp factories have to do with literature.

I wish Rule 2 was phrased in a way that clearly excludes the latter, and enforced.

Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 17:58 collapse

Beautifully phrased. Make science about science again, not about flash in the pan personalities.

hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 10:19 next collapse

This is specific to open source, but perhaps a good starting point: opensourcely.org

ICastFist@programming.dev on 28 Nov 2024 10:36 next collapse

Dunno about communities, but www.science.org and www.sciencenews.org are all about science

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 28 Nov 2024 16:08 collapse

Would be nice to have more communities that just autopublish all articles published by specific sites

Lydia_K@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 17:38 next collapse

No.

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 17:39 next collapse

Same question. I kinda hoped it would be here, but many lemmy communities are just reddit with a better UI. Lots of good links in this thread tho!

roguetrick@lemmy.world on 28 Nov 2024 18:00 next collapse

You just need a mod team willing to enforce those rules.

HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world on 29 Nov 2024 03:42 next collapse

!phys@rss.ponder.cat

!physics@mander.xyz

hmmm@sh.itjust.works on 29 Nov 2024 05:04 collapse

Good thread I found so many good communities.