Windows AI PC manufacturers must add a Copilot key, says Microsoft (www.xda-developers.com)
from yokonzo@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 15:38
https://lemmy.world/post/13647405

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ptz@dubvee.org on 28 Mar 2024 15:49 next collapse

Just what no one was asking for: a Clippy key. So by the looks of that keyboard, I can just Fn-lock that useless key back to the context menu, right?

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 28 Mar 2024 16:29 next collapse

And maybe put a dickbutt sticker or something on it.

Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz on 28 Mar 2024 17:01 collapse

Who would have thought, a key cap like that already exists.

Kissaki@feddit.de on 28 Mar 2024 17:31 collapse

That looks like cake

bobs_monkey@lemm.ee on 28 Mar 2024 19:21 collapse

“Happy birthday, here’s your dickbutt cake”

vanderbilt@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 17:05 collapse

Bonsi-buddy gang rise up.

taanegl@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 17:26 next collapse

Reject Copilot key, demand Bonsi-buddy key.

cm0002@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 17:54 collapse

It’s Bonzi, and I would 100% skin copilot with the purple gorilla lmao

wjrii@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 15:51 next collapse

Either it will be become an important key (“Windows/Super”) or it won’t (Context menu). Microsoft is being eye-rollingly cringey with the specific keyboard requirement, but I assume there are probably about a million more concerning things about “AI PCs” than the keyboard button.

Also, mech keyboards for the win. Nobody is forcing keyboard nerds to do shit with their keycaps. 😂

mac@infosec.pub on 28 Mar 2024 18:32 next collapse

Been thinking about getting an ergonomic split board, I’d prefer wireless. Any recommendations?

wjrii@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 18:45 collapse

My thing is more “unwieldy hand-wires that don’t really need to exist.” For you though, the simple answer is a wireless “Alice” from Keychron. They have a few variations going from about $100-$200, a little less if you can live with a wire. Beyond that, you can look for Ergodox or go smaller to Corne. You end up with a lot of DIY or even commissions in that space, though, as it’s sort of by definition going to attract people looking for something personalized.

You could be in luck, though: while none are much of a hub, the most active keeb community on Lemmy is probably the !ergomechkeyboards@lemmy.world one.

mac@infosec.pub on 28 Mar 2024 22:41 collapse

Ah I was hoping for a split board. Thanks for the suggestions though I was looking at the corner and the chocify before.

bo5on@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 29 Mar 2024 00:23 collapse

It’s you’re actually concerned about ergonomics you should look into the Glove80.

lemmyvore@feddit.nl on 28 Mar 2024 23:43 next collapse

Damn right. I’m just a prebuilt user but it was the best decision I ever made and I’m never going back.

qevlarr@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 07:39 collapse

Context menu is indispensable for me. So many commands can be done mouseless because of this.

pr06lefs@lemmy.ml on 28 Mar 2024 16:14 next collapse

another key I can map to something useful in linux!

SomethingBurger@jlai.lu on 28 Mar 2024 17:31 collapse

Looks like it’s just replacing the Menu key.

qaz@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 18:24 next collapse

So nothing changes then?

mac@infosec.pub on 28 Mar 2024 18:31 collapse

Nuh uh this one has a new picture on it

MisterFrog@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 21:55 collapse

My menu key 😭

Me, the one person who will actually miss it.

I use it mostly at work, so I won’t have a choice.

Liz@midwest.social on 29 Mar 2024 22:29 collapse

There’s two of us, anyway.

Brkdncr@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 16:40 next collapse

I’m not surprised. Vendors do this for branded products all of the time.

conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works on 28 Mar 2024 19:12 collapse

Yeah, this is stupid.

But it’s an AI branded product. Having an AI button makes sense for people that are buying a product for that trash.

lud@lemm.ee on 30 Mar 2024 08:50 collapse

Having an AI button makes sense for people that are buying a product for that trash.

No one is or will be doing that though

conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works on 30 Mar 2024 11:23 collapse

People absolutely will.

AI is a huge buzzword that people are buying into hard. Despite how limited it is.

charonn0@startrek.website on 28 Mar 2024 17:24 next collapse

Or else what?

FaceDeer@fedia.io on 29 Mar 2024 04:28 collapse

Presumably you can't use their branding.

Kissaki@feddit.de on 28 Mar 2024 17:29 next collapse

I just set up an HP Laptop for someone and Windows setup is horrendous. Fuck you Microsoft.

There’s no way around using a Microsoft account, but when you enter an invalid login, you can proceed setting up a local account anyway. Then all the shit is set up to my disliking. And of course, Microsoft installs its own services adware and additional third-party adware you can’t uninstall, and then, HP does the same, installing more scamware. Disgusting.

LucidDaemon@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 18:12 next collapse

Use no@thankyou.com as the email anything as the password and it’ll let you setup a local account.

macgyver@federation.red on 28 Mar 2024 18:18 collapse

a@a.com

simplejack@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 19:10 next collapse

Not nearly as fun a dankfartlord@dope.af

_dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz on 28 Mar 2024 20:57 collapse

Turns out dope.af is redirecting to andy.is, til.

simplejack@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 02:31 collapse

With URLs like that, it’s hard to argue Andy isn’t dope.af

Kissaki@feddit.de on 29 Mar 2024 07:06 collapse

a worked - apparently doesn’t even need to be a valid/web email address

Before using any potentially valid domain name I try to use example.com, which is guaranteed to not be in use or claimable.

Ashe@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 28 Mar 2024 18:30 next collapse

If you actually just set it up, this is the perfect time to reset it, and then press shift + F10 then enter “oobe\bypassnro”

It will reboot and you will be able to say that you don’t have access to the Internet and set up a local account. That /might/ remove some bloat as well, without needing to reinstall from a flash drive. Which would require reinstalling drivers also.

MisterD@lemmy.ca on 29 Mar 2024 01:05 collapse

Dunno if this still works: when setup your local account, while NOT CONNECTED to the internet login and edit the Start Menu tiles. Delete any blank or empty ones. Those are for the ads!

Kissaki@feddit.de on 29 Mar 2024 07:04 collapse

This laptop has no way to disable wifi. I at least did not find anything - no such function key. And the Windows setup required you to connect to a wiki, with no way to proceed otherwise. Like, wtf?

[deleted] on 29 Mar 2024 09:26 next collapse

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Kissaki@feddit.de on 29 Mar 2024 10:49 collapse

You can’t continue the setup process without connecting to a wifi network. There is no alternative in the UI.

[deleted] on 29 Mar 2024 12:21 collapse

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TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 18:27 collapse

You open the command prompt during initial setup, change the oobe. It reboots, then no Microsoft account.

Kissaki@feddit.de on 28 Mar 2024 17:32 next collapse

Maybe add a Solopilot key too so I can use a local Windows account, and not have to uninstall adware or disable online-search when I search my PC.

garretble@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 20:35 next collapse

Here’s a tip that may come in handy. Microsoft makes an app called PowerToys that lets you remap keys without having to dink around in the registry: learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/

I’ve used it to put CTRL on that useless capslock key like god intended.

buran@lemmy.world on 28 Mar 2024 22:06 next collapse

Some keyboards also come with software that lets you disable or remap keys. I turned Caps Lock into something more useful to me, for instance.

garretble@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 00:40 next collapse

Yeah for sure. I have my mechanical keyboard super customized with several layers.

FaceDeer@fedia.io on 29 Mar 2024 04:27 collapse

But without capslock how do you be angry?

RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 04:59 collapse

IF YOU ARE REALLY ANGRY YOU WILL MAKE THE EFFORT TO PLOP YOUR FAT CAT DOWN ON A SHIFT KEY

EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 09:26 collapse

My cat won’t stay still long enough :(

el_eh_chase@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Mar 2024 08:28 collapse

PowerToys is so useful. It’s the main thing I will miss if I ever switch to Linux. I’m sure there is software to replace most of the functionality on Linux, but I’ve yet to get the motivation to look into it.

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 30 Mar 2024 14:07 collapse

Stuff like key mapping is built into the settings apps of most DEs. At least it is in KDE and Gnome.

Although there are other useful stuff in powertoys that’s either not there or implemented in a very different way.

andrewth09@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 00:36 next collapse

Just like my Google Assistant key on the side of my phone that literally does nothing after disabling Google Assistant.

spyd3r@sh.itjust.works on 29 Mar 2024 02:46 next collapse

I literally cut the Bixby button out of my old phone because I’d keep accidentally bumping it.

TwinTusks@bitforged.space on 29 Mar 2024 03:25 next collapse

I remap it to “phone” and remove the phone icon from my screen.

Lilac_miku@ani.social on 29 Mar 2024 06:25 collapse

i remapped mine to open firefox

Telodzrum@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 02:15 next collapse

Cool, another super key to map.

jak2k@discuss.tchncs.de on 29 Mar 2024 19:38 collapse

It will just replace the menu key. Just remap that.

Telodzrum@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 20:56 next collapse

The fuck is a menu key?

jak2k@discuss.tchncs.de on 29 Mar 2024 21:37 collapse

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menu_key

Telodzrum@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 22:34 collapse

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Liz@midwest.social on 29 Mar 2024 22:26 collapse

I’m still annoyed my new laptop doesn’t have a menu key. I remapped the caps lock key to act as the menu key because it’s so dang useful.

BaardFigur@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 03:37 next collapse

Like the Bixby-button I have on my phone, it will fail

smeenz@lemmy.nz on 29 Mar 2024 20:04 next collapse

They’re still refusing to give up on it - in the latest software update, long pressing the power key now launches bixby ffs. You now have to hold power+vol_down to get the reboot/power off menu.

kuneho@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 22:05 collapse

or change it back

smeenz@lemmy.nz on 30 Mar 2024 01:10 collapse

Oh I didn’t even think to check if it was configurable. Thanks. Now reverted.

kuneho@lemmy.world on 30 Mar 2024 07:28 collapse

glad you found it :)

it was the very first thing I changed back, too x3

I mean, come on, who the hell turns off the phone by voice command? especially Bixby doesn’t even know my native language. 😅

Kanda@reddthat.com on 30 Mar 2024 20:04 collapse

It succeeds at being very annoying

anon_8675309@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 11:16 next collapse

As long as I can still find a halfway decent laptop to run Linux, I’m good.

mjhelto@lemm.ee on 29 Mar 2024 11:27 next collapse

Replacing the Windows key. Calling it right now. You’ll be forced into using AI in future Windows versions by turning your, “Windows key + typing app you want to open,” to a hyper-active Cortana you help, “train” with your data.

reksas@sopuli.xyz on 29 Mar 2024 18:56 collapse

why stop there, remove all settings and instead beg for the copilot to adjust them for you. Why, lets remove being able to have administrative rights on your own pc completely and leave that too for copilot.

tb_@lemmy.world on 29 Mar 2024 23:42 collapse

Are we going back to a command line interface?

reksas@sopuli.xyz on 30 Mar 2024 07:58 collapse

Not at all, we shall have Command Line Prompt™ where instead you tell copilot what you want to do.

Patches@sh.itjust.works on 30 Mar 2024 11:54 collapse

And it decides what it will allow you to do.

Actually that’s kind of already how Windows 10 and 11 work…

smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de on 29 Mar 2024 16:32 next collapse

Introducing: Messaging PC

Requirements:

  • WhatsApp key on the keyboard
  • Network accelerator in the CPU
  • Preinstalled with Windows and unremovable WhatsApp integration
bart@moth.social on 29 Mar 2024 22:16 next collapse

@yokonzo beh

bart@moth.social on 29 Mar 2024 22:20 next collapse

@yokonzo such a 1990s move

invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works on 30 Mar 2024 08:21 collapse

Sure, an assistant key… Not a copilot key…

Its the windows key all over again…

Queue the custom keycap crew