breadsmasher@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 17:43
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“Brazil sees massive drop in alt right hate speech”
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 17:43
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Lucky for them
lvxferre@mander.xyz
on 17 Aug 2024 18:15
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So Bolsonaro won’t get elected again, uh.
I’m surprised to be saying this but thank you Elon Muppet.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 20:48
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afaik he’s still barred from running for office until 2030, as a result of undermining the validity of the electoral process - the same process that once elected him btw…
He’ll be 75yo in '30. Still viable as a candidate.
And, for '26, he’s still the one deciding who’s going to run for his party. One of the options is his wife Michelle Bolsonaro, a vulture from the same flock as her husband.
Now with Twitter out of the equation* they’ll have a harder reaching their base.
EDIT: actually scrap that. It’s only its offices, the service will be still available. Fuck it, now I’m sour.
tinsuke@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 18:19
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Made me think this was the good news community.
partial_accumen@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 18:19
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Earlier this year, Moraes ordered X to block certain accounts, as he investigates so-called “digital militias” that have been accused of spreading fake news and hate messages during the government of far-right former President Jair Bolsonaro.
That sounds very “on brand” for the company these days.
Should journalists start referring to the platform as “the far-right hate speech platform formerly known as Twitter”?
Drunemeton@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 20:01
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Too wordy. Try: Naxi.
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 17 Aug 2024 21:34
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I like it. I really enjoy calling it Xitter though.
Zexks@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 18:20
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One down couple hundred more to go.
downpunxx@fedia.io
on 17 Aug 2024 18:29
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not sure what everyone's so excited about "The X service remains available to the people of Brazil, the platform said on Saturday."
seems like they're just closing their offices so they don't get fined or arrested
eager_eagle@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 20:04
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true, but they had a local presence for reasons that benefited them; legal, operational, commercial, strategic, whatever. So I’ll take it as good news.
fernandofig@reddthat.com
on 17 Aug 2024 20:55
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But it isn’t. Now people get to spread misinformation to Brazilians with no repercussions.
eager_eagle@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 21:19
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and do you think there were repercussions before?
whatsapp does this misinformation job immensely better
fernandofig@reddthat.com
on 18 Aug 2024 00:01
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and do you think there were repercussions before?
For X? Sure, that’s why they’re leaving in the first place - by not complying to the judge’s orders, they’d surely get slapped with fines and such. As a company, it makes sense to leave and avoid being accountable, but given the influence they (sadly) still have in the media, avoiding those repercussions and letting bad actors do their thing, they’re adding gasoline to the burning world.
The fact that Whatsapp is more popular in Brazil than X is beside the point.
Ilandar@aussie.zone
on 18 Aug 2024 02:12
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I guess because they didn’t read the article. Although even the headline implies this with the word “operations”, so I guess the people celebrating in this thread are just stupid and/or coping.
that's not how the internet works, clot i think i read your post reply incorrectly
cley_faye@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 17:45
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Say that to governments that wants to locally ban tiktok.
driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
on 19 Aug 2024 16:44
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What’s going to happen the next time the government or judges called them from something? They don’t respond and the judge are going to order the ISP to stop forward data from and to them, blocking them on Brazil. It’s not even going to be the first time, brazillian judges have had fights with whatapp before, and for a couple of days whataap have been blocked. Whatapp move like 10% of the Brazilian economy, so it was solved quickly, Twitter is nowhere as relevant and nobody is going to care when its end blocked.
i know and this is why banning it is a good thing. fuck twitter.
Treczoks@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 20:56
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I would not mind if my countries’ judges grew the same kind of brass balls that the Brazilain Judge sports.
fluxion@lemmy.world
on 17 Aug 2024 22:10
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Well-played, Brazil
b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 18 Aug 2024 01:37
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This Nazi war-mongering website needs to be shut down everywhere.
InternetUser2012@lemmy.today
on 18 Aug 2024 02:23
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Excellent
JapanUSAcologne@ani.social
on 18 Aug 2024 14:23
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The fuck is x, friends?
TotalFat@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 15:06
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Brazil does not fuck around. They famously jailed several Microsoft execs when they didn’t hand over some emails a few years ago.
Edit: Skype data not emails and one exec
Endward23@futurology.today
on 18 Aug 2024 17:52
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They famously jailed several Microsoft execs when they didn’t hand over some emails a few years ago.
And somehow, thats a good thing?
To break the security of communication on demand of the gouverment?
TotalFat@lemmy.world
on 18 Aug 2024 20:36
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I never said it was a good thing. I was just commenting on the aggressive nature of Brazil LEO. Microsoft in particular bends over backwards for any gov’t or LEO. I can only assume the Feds got substantial leverage over them, perhaps by manipulating the antitrust cases. Same tactics they use on the smaller guys works on the big corps too I guess. Top customer of MS legal compliance is by far the US Fed with 5000-7000 blanket surveillance of Americans presumably part of PRISM. Second highest is definitely Brazil, and they are very demanding and impatient.
Back in 2016, MS was advertising Customer Lockbox as an answer to gov’t intrusion into customer privacy. It sounded perfect. Customer gets encryption keys so MS cannot comply with lawful interception requests. I think Apple does this, and it works well for them and their customers. However today I cannot tell if MS lied, dismantled this aspect of this feature, or buried it such that no one uses this ability.
While we’re talking about MS playing snitch, watch out for Windows 11 and the TPM hardware requirement. Sure this might be a useful tool to fight ransomware scammers, but it definitely can also be used to fingerprint a PC and make everything potentially traceable. Look up machine identification code aka yellow dots for a nifty parallel in the printer world (pun intended).
Endward23@futurology.today
on 19 Aug 2024 15:36
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Back in 2016, MS was advertising Customer Lockbox as an answer to gov’t intrusion into customer privacy.
Got it. Sorry for the missunderstanding.
TotalFat@lemmy.world
on 20 Aug 2024 03:02
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Hopefully you don’t care, but in case you do I didn’t downvote you. I was not offended, but I am grateful I had an opportunity to share some of the unique insights I’ve experienced.
Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 Aug 2024 17:28
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Good for Brazilians I guess
Endward23@futurology.today
on 18 Aug 2024 17:54
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I really wonder how long X aka Twitter can operate within the EU.
The EU is on a smiliar tracetion in my opinion.
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Congrats Brazil
“Brazil sees massive drop in alt right hate speech”
Lucky for them
So Bolsonaro won’t get elected again, uh.
I’m surprised to be saying this but thank you Elon Muppet.
afaik he’s still barred from running for office until 2030, as a result of undermining the validity of the electoral process - the same process that once elected him btw…
He’ll be 75yo in '30. Still viable as a candidate.
And, for '26, he’s still the one deciding who’s going to run for his party. One of the options is his wife Michelle Bolsonaro, a vulture from the same flock as her husband.
Now with Twitter out of the equation* they’ll have a harder reaching their base.
EDIT: actually scrap that. It’s only its offices, the service will be still available. Fuck it, now I’m sour.
Made me think this was the good news community.
That sounds very “on brand” for the company these days.
Should journalists start referring to the platform as “the far-right hate speech platform formerly known as Twitter”?
Too wordy. Try: Naxi.
I like it. I really enjoy calling it Xitter though.
One down couple hundred more to go.
not sure what everyone's so excited about "The X service remains available to the people of Brazil, the platform said on Saturday."
seems like they're just closing their offices so they don't get fined or arrested
true, but they had a local presence for reasons that benefited them; legal, operational, commercial, strategic, whatever. So I’ll take it as good news.
But it isn’t. Now people get to spread misinformation to Brazilians with no repercussions.
and do you think there were repercussions before?
whatsapp does this misinformation job immensely better
For X? Sure, that’s why they’re leaving in the first place - by not complying to the judge’s orders, they’d surely get slapped with fines and such. As a company, it makes sense to leave and avoid being accountable, but given the influence they (sadly) still have in the media, avoiding those repercussions and letting bad actors do their thing, they’re adding gasoline to the burning world.
The fact that Whatsapp is more popular in Brazil than X is beside the point.
They can just block the IP in Brazil too
I guess because they didn’t read the article. Although even the headline implies this with the word “operations”, so I guess the people celebrating in this thread are just stupid and/or coping.
"gathering ye schadenfreude where ye may"
Seems to be the way on Lemmy. People are so desperate for a circlejerk that they just start inventing their own reality to accommodate one.
Complete X ban doesn’t seem too far-fetched to me after this, as they have closed the offices, they won’t be able to moderate stuff…
that's not how the internet works, cloti think i read your post reply incorrectlySay that to governments that wants to locally ban tiktok.
What’s going to happen the next time the government or judges called them from something? They don’t respond and the judge are going to order the ISP to stop forward data from and to them, blocking them on Brazil. It’s not even going to be the first time, brazillian judges have had fights with whatapp before, and for a couple of days whataap have been blocked. Whatapp move like 10% of the Brazilian economy, so it was solved quickly, Twitter is nowhere as relevant and nobody is going to care when its end blocked.
Because it led to eventual ban cnbc.com/…/brazil-orders-suspension-of-elon-musks…
excellent
finally some fucking good news
Lol they need to shut down in Indonesia as well Twitter regularly accept censorship request from Indonesian government
GOOD. Elon doesnt get to taunt us with a coup unpunished.
You apparently forget he said Twitter needed major before he bought it.
It’s by design. 🤦🏼♂️
i know and this is why banning it is a good thing. fuck twitter.
I would not mind if my countries’ judges grew the same kind of brass balls that the Brazilain Judge sports.
Well-played, Brazil
This Nazi war-mongering website needs to be shut down everywhere.
Excellent
The fuck is x, friends?
Brazil does not fuck around. They famously jailed several Microsoft execs when they didn’t hand over some emails a few years ago.
Edit: Skype data not emails and one exec
And somehow, thats a good thing? To break the security of communication on demand of the gouverment?
I never said it was a good thing. I was just commenting on the aggressive nature of Brazil LEO. Microsoft in particular bends over backwards for any gov’t or LEO. I can only assume the Feds got substantial leverage over them, perhaps by manipulating the antitrust cases. Same tactics they use on the smaller guys works on the big corps too I guess. Top customer of MS legal compliance is by far the US Fed with 5000-7000 blanket surveillance of Americans presumably part of PRISM. Second highest is definitely Brazil, and they are very demanding and impatient.
Back in 2016, MS was advertising Customer Lockbox as an answer to gov’t intrusion into customer privacy. It sounded perfect. Customer gets encryption keys so MS cannot comply with lawful interception requests. I think Apple does this, and it works well for them and their customers. However today I cannot tell if MS lied, dismantled this aspect of this feature, or buried it such that no one uses this ability.
While we’re talking about MS playing snitch, watch out for Windows 11 and the TPM hardware requirement. Sure this might be a useful tool to fight ransomware scammers, but it definitely can also be used to fingerprint a PC and make everything potentially traceable. Look up machine identification code aka yellow dots for a nifty parallel in the printer world (pun intended).
Got it. Sorry for the missunderstanding.
Hopefully you don’t care, but in case you do I didn’t downvote you. I was not offended, but I am grateful I had an opportunity to share some of the unique insights I’ve experienced.
Good for Brazilians I guess
I really wonder how long X aka Twitter can operate within the EU. The EU is on a smiliar tracetion in my opinion.