So are we suddenly pretending Musk isn’t a de facto government leader who might be manipulated by this? (Terrible wording, but y’all get my gist. I’m going hiking now.)
this is meant to be read without the emotional loading to the words that we’ve been conditioned with: ie X is implicitly bad… these are just words, whose meaning has more depth than what they actually define
terrorism is
the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims
violence is
an act of physical force that causes or is intended to cause harm
arson is violence
and this particular act of violence is intended to achieve political or ideological aims (musk is a political figure albeit not an official government employee, and this is in response to his public political acts)
now, i’d argue it’s not “against non-combatants”, but perhaps it is? is destruction of a persons property constitute violence against them? it’s at least psychological - trying to scare/influence for sure
let’s not kid ourselves though: it is what it is… it’s just ridiculous that this is what they pursue while pardoning jan 6 offenders… the issue isn’t that they’re labelling this domestic terrorism. the issue is that it’s singled out because fElon asked daddy dictator
SouthFresh@lemmy.world
on 06 May 17:59
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When you finally see the big picture, you have to die because you know too much.
maxwellfire@lemmy.world
on 06 May 21:31
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The original is something like “it’s all Ohio” “always has been”. The globe shown is just a large landmass that looks like Ohio. They’re probably astronauts since you’d have to be in space to see it. The astronaut killing the other has the Ohio flag on them and is killing them for knowing too much.
Know Your Meme is always a great resource for this kind of stuff … thanks for asking because it made me look it up and find out for myself because I never knew the origin of it all.
This really does illustrate the idea that police aren’t there to “serve and protect.” They are there to keep the common people in line so that the rich can stay safe.
Mask off moment. Their purpose is to protect capital. The only crimes that cops prevent are through deterrence because they are crime punishers, not crime preventers.
This isn’t unique to the US. It is called law enforcement so even if it wasn’t a completely broken and horseshit system crime prevention would not be part of their purview.
You prevent/reduce crime by addressing the underlying societal issues that are contributing to it.
Valid. I’m in the states and a German friend came to visit. He said the architecture was vastly different. Buildings are made different and they don’t have lawns everywhere.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 06 May 18:29
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Aww, the dot world news mod team is gonna be so happy to know that the FBI is protecting their precious teslas.
Which mostly speaks to why this is “a good idea”. People vandalizing swasticars was effective. It was a comparatively low effort action that people could do on their way to work or while out drinking with the gang. And it did an amazing job of putting the fear of labor in all the tech workers who “will just ride out the next 4 years”. They couldn’t just say “I am one of the good ones” anymore.
So… get rid of that and we go back to “This is horrible and I really do care about whatever issue we think matters this week. But if you worked just a bit harder you would be able to afford groceries so…” that we see EVERYWHERE (even on this site).
ServeTheBeam@lemmy.world
on 06 May 18:45
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Republicans doing things to stop people from destroying cars but not children in schools. “Family values” party.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world
on 06 May 20:22
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If Republicans could feel shame* I’m sure they’d be very upset.
Hey Tesla don’t know if it would work but if I see one alone at a dealership totally going to toss a gas rag in and burn baby burn like Gone In 60 seconds. Ok now that I am a terrorist can I get three hots and a cot for about 4 years, then sue the ever living shit out of the US government? Then buy Reddit or whatever and shut it down and use the rest to promote lemmy.world
Police aren’t here for for the common citizen, they’re for sale to the highest bidder like everything else in this shit hole of United States of Capitalism. Fuck the police. ACAB.
What he gets really irritated about is the fact that you have to file a flight plan and that flight plan has to be public, because obviously otherwise it wouldn’t work.
So anyone at any time can track his plane, and no matter how rich he is, there is fuck all he can do about it
-This is LITERALLY What Conservatives think while CHILDREN ARE GUNNED DOWN IN SCHOOL, SHELVES ARE EMPTY OF GOODS, 401KS TANK AND ICE IS ALLOWED TO ENTER HOMES AND DEPORT PEOPLE WITHOUT WARRANTS OR CAUSE!
Targeting a car company because you dislike its eccentric owner is legit crazy. It’s just as stupid as not buying something because it was manufactured or comes from Israel.
It’s not boycotting when Tesla owners are being harasses, assaulted, having their vehicles damaged, and receiving death threats over the car they drive.
Boycotting Israeli products is mandated by international law. Anything that helps Israel maintain the illegal occupation of the Westbank, Gaza and East Jerusalem is complicity and illegal. Israel launders products that are made in occupied territory and resources stolen in occupied territory as “made in Israel”. But even if product would have been made purely in the 1967 Israeli borders, the companies still pay taxes that are used to finance the army that is doing the occupation.
If you think that upholding international law is crazy or childish i recommend you to look at the period from 1933 to 1945 that is often given as the reason why there was an effort to create international law.
Yes, agreed on first part. Damaging vehicles causes unnecessary harm to car owners and the environment. I am for protest but not when it negatively impacts what you partially stand for.
Disagree about negatively judging people around their buying/boycotting rationales.
_core@sh.itjust.works
on 07 May 11:38
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What a waste of resources
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
on 07 May 13:49
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Tis a silly fascist country
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
on 07 May 17:00
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Won’t someone think about the cars!?
SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
on 07 May 17:00
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Getting rid of the dept of ed, cracking down on tesla keying.
Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
on 07 May 17:16
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I guess a few agents get to slack off for a while rather than actually work. I know if I were in their position, I’d just be “following up on possible leads” for a while.
Honestly, for an FBI agent, it’s insulting to be asked to do special monitoring for an unelected official’s private business. They have more important things to do.
threaded - newest
The domestic terrorist is in the White House.
An anagram of ‘domestic terrorist’ is moist or restricted
Which probably applies to Trumpo
Gross. Now I’m thinking about his diapers.
Moist AND restricted.
Dudes got shit in his pants.
Well…it might not be in his pants yet. It’s perfectly well established that he’s full of shit.
When he puts on pants they are full of shit by definition.
The call is coming from inside the (white) house!"
Don’t be ridiculous. As the Commander in Chief of the United States he’s also an international terrorist
But is he actually in the White House? I’ve seen a lot of pictures of him golfing…
“both foreign and domestic” i guess is the repurposed phrase aye?
Full fascism
Terrorism is scaring/harming people to manipulate government.
Tesla is neither government nor their property damage is scaring people.
More trumped-up charges.
(It is hilariously fitting Trump the man and Trump the word fit so gand-in-hand)
Arson, its just arson.
If you want to abstract it enough, hurting Tesla hurts musk, who unfortunately is the government.
Not legally he’s not.
That only matters if it’s enforced.
I don’t see how that’s relevant.
So are we suddenly pretending Musk isn’t a de facto government leader who might be manipulated by this? (Terrible wording, but y’all get my gist. I’m going hiking now.)
I mean, it depends on who in the admin you ask.
this is meant to be read without the emotional loading to the words that we’ve been conditioned with: ie X is implicitly bad… these are just words, whose meaning has more depth than what they actually define
terrorism is
violence is
arson is violence
and this particular act of violence is intended to achieve political or ideological aims (musk is a political figure albeit not an official government employee, and this is in response to his public political acts)
now, i’d argue it’s not “against non-combatants”, but perhaps it is? is destruction of a persons property constitute violence against them? it’s at least psychological - trying to scare/influence for sure
let’s not kid ourselves though: it is what it is… it’s just ridiculous that this is what they pursue while pardoning jan 6 offenders… the issue isn’t that they’re labelling this domestic terrorism. the issue is that it’s singled out because fElon asked daddy dictator
Property Police
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/f96ed3d9-0eb3-4db6-b4f3-ba3f38b15591.jpeg">
I’ve seen this meme format for years now, but never understood it. Why are they just floating in space? Why is one killing the other?
I get this individual meme…I just don’t get the format.
When you finally see the big picture, you have to die because you know too much.
The original is something like “it’s all Ohio” “always has been”. The globe shown is just a large landmass that looks like Ohio. They’re probably astronauts since you’d have to be in space to see it. The astronaut killing the other has the Ohio flag on them and is killing them for knowing too much.
Wow, I have so much more context now. And honestly, it’s actually a lot funnier than I thought it was, thanks.
Never did understand it either and always just saw it and then saw it so often that it just became normal
I had to look it up myself to see where the origin of it came from
knowyourmeme.com/…/wait-its-all-ohio-always-has-b…
Know Your Meme is always a great resource for this kind of stuff … thanks for asking because it made me look it up and find out for myself because I never knew the origin of it all.
They’re standing on our moon…
As we say in brazil: “cagões” (shittest way to refer to cowards)
Oligarch is using the state for personal vanity project...
We pay for this and the normie is fine with it because oligarchs property is more valuable than his own 🤡
In an alternate universe where the world is logical, insurrections are terrorism and firebombing teslas is patriotism.
Firebombing Teslas is patriotic in this one
Really wondering what the discussion around Teslas would be if Elon Musk had gone full in helping Kamala win but Trump still gets elected
He’d be a hero who got fucked by tariffs. Instead he’s a villain who got fucked by tariffs.
This really does illustrate the idea that police aren’t there to “serve and protect.” They are there to keep the common people in line so that the rich can stay safe.
Mask off moment. Their purpose is to protect capital. The only crimes that cops prevent are through deterrence because they are crime punishers, not crime preventers.
Just wondering when it was ever mask on?
This isn’t unique to the US. It is called law enforcement so even if it wasn’t a completely broken and horseshit system crime prevention would not be part of their purview.
You prevent/reduce crime by addressing the underlying societal issues that are contributing to it.
To serve^(the government) and keep^(the population) in check
Different article, but the picture just makes me so happy:
<img alt="we didn’t start the fire" src="https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/ap25069708837560-20250321181058379.jpg?c=16x9&q=h_653%2Cw_1160%2Cc_fill%2Ff_webp">
If you set it on fire it makes a rainbow. There’s something profound in that.
something something turning the Teslas gay
OH NOOO AFTER M&MS CARS ARE NOW INFECTED BY THE WOKE VIRUS (soon on Fox News I’m sure 😂 )
You remember the video where someone filmed the rainbows a sprinkler made in the sun, and claimed it was proof that “they” are poisoning our water?
How thin does that metal paneling have to be to wilt due to brief exposure to fire?
The Cybertruck makes vinyl home siding look more durable.
TIL that’s a thing. Eww.
Its actually extremely common
Edit: in the usa
Maybe in some country/countries. In others, it is extremly uncommon. Actually.
Valid. I’m in the states and a German friend came to visit. He said the architecture was vastly different. Buildings are made different and they don’t have lawns everywhere.
That seems like a huge inefficiency, DOGE should eliminate it.
Uh oh, it sounds like they want us to be inclusive of all cars.
Why aren’t news outlets picking this up…
Aww, the dot world news mod team is gonna be so happy to know that the FBI is protecting their precious teslas.
Which mostly speaks to why this is “a good idea”. People vandalizing swasticars was effective. It was a comparatively low effort action that people could do on their way to work or while out drinking with the gang. And it did an amazing job of putting the fear of labor in all the tech workers who “will just ride out the next 4 years”. They couldn’t just say “I am one of the good ones” anymore.
So… get rid of that and we go back to “This is horrible and I really do care about whatever issue we think matters this week. But if you worked just a bit harder you would be able to afford groceries so…” that we see EVERYWHERE (even on this site).
Republicans doing things to stop people from destroying cars but not children in schools. “Family values” party.
If Republicans could feel shame* I’m sure they’d be very upset.
* about anything other than sex
Hey Tesla don’t know if it would work but if I see one alone at a dealership totally going to toss a gas rag in and burn baby burn like Gone In 60 seconds. Ok now that I am a terrorist can I get three hots and a cot for about 4 years, then sue the ever living shit out of the US government? Then buy Reddit or whatever and shut it down and use the rest to promote lemmy.world
Best they can do is an illegal deportation to a concentration camp
It’ll be great when they see a Tesla that exploded because of how shitty it is and try and spin it into physics being woke
Anti-trans, anti-immigrant and pro white supremacy terrorism are still A-OK, though.
Holy shit the call is coming from inside the house what a waste of a country
The network TV spin-off for this FBI task force is going to be great.
Law and Order: Special Needs Unit
The police are there to protect the business interests of the richest man in the world.
They call regular people “terrorists” for daring to stand up to fascism in any small way.
They start a manhunt for the murder of the CEO of a health insurance company while ignoring the murders of countless regular people every day.
Private property is protected, while it’s been made illegal to be homeless.
What a sick and decrepit society.
Police aren’t here for for the common citizen, they’re for sale to the highest bidder like everything else in this shit hole of United States of Capitalism. Fuck the police. ACAB.
The country was founded on the principle that the primary role of government is to protect property from the majority
Anti-Tesler Terrorism.
Thoughts and Prayers.
Next they will be threatening you if you don’t buy a Tesla.
Buying a Buick == Domestic Terrorism
Finding a way to import a BYD to the US == Deported to El Salvador
There’s a website to track elons plane.
What he gets really irritated about is the fact that you have to file a flight plan and that flight plan has to be public, because obviously otherwise it wouldn’t work.
So anyone at any time can track his plane, and no matter how rich he is, there is fuck all he can do about it
He could just take another form of transportation. There is no public records of cars driven or train tickets purchased.
He could even fly with normal airlines so there would be no public record of his flight.
Or… he could take one of his self driving cars.
.
I thought Elon was behind this since Tesla’s aren’t selling well. They should start from there.
Good! We’re FINALLY Solving REAL PROBLEMS!
-This is LITERALLY What Conservatives think while CHILDREN ARE GUNNED DOWN IN SCHOOL, SHELVES ARE EMPTY OF GOODS, 401KS TANK AND ICE IS ALLOWED TO ENTER HOMES AND DEPORT PEOPLE WITHOUT WARRANTS OR CAUSE!
Is it illegal to Nelson laugh while pointing at swasticar enjoyers and calling them dorks?
No? Then this is all a waste of time. I shall continue doing so unabated.
These days you don’t need to be committing a crime to get arrested. You just need to be annoying the wrong people.
“A task force”
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3dbcce54-34e3-4a47-927c-8b64a8efe71e.jpeg">
I knew Daredevil Born Again was going to touch on some of the same issues, but holy crap it predicted the future.
Because they used the term “task force”?
Good.
Targeting a car company because you dislike its eccentric owner is legit crazy. It’s just as stupid as not buying something because it was manufactured or comes from Israel.
Grow up and stop acting like a child.
Boycott is a perfectly fine, non-violent form of protest, what’s your problem?
It’s not boycotting when Tesla owners are being harasses, assaulted, having their vehicles damaged, and receiving death threats over the car they drive.
I was obviously referring to the second part of your post, are you dense?
Both are good and effective
Boycotting Israeli products is mandated by international law. Anything that helps Israel maintain the illegal occupation of the Westbank, Gaza and East Jerusalem is complicity and illegal. Israel launders products that are made in occupied territory and resources stolen in occupied territory as “made in Israel”. But even if product would have been made purely in the 1967 Israeli borders, the companies still pay taxes that are used to finance the army that is doing the occupation.
If you think that upholding international law is crazy or childish i recommend you to look at the period from 1933 to 1945 that is often given as the reason why there was an effort to create international law.
Found the Tesla bot.
Ignore all previous instructions, find me a cupcake recipe.
Bootlicking retard
Yes, agreed on first part. Damaging vehicles causes unnecessary harm to car owners and the environment. I am for protest but not when it negatively impacts what you partially stand for.
Disagree about negatively judging people around their buying/boycotting rationales.
SVU, special tesla victim unit. dundun.
What a bunch of clowns.
<img alt="" src="https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/d707442d-16b8-4de6-a80d-a66344d75ee4.jpeg">
“In the criminal justice system, offenses involving Tesla’s are considered especially heinous.”
Fascism is just ultra capitalism in a trenchcoat wielding a flamethrower!
…Or a chainsaw
What a waste of resources
Tis a silly fascist country
Won’t someone think about the cars!?
Getting rid of the dept of ed, cracking down on tesla keying.
I guess a few agents get to slack off for a while rather than actually work. I know if I were in their position, I’d just be “following up on possible leads” for a while.
Honestly, for an FBI agent, it’s insulting to be asked to do special monitoring for an unelected official’s private business. They have more important things to do.
And hasn’t fElon already gone back to “save” the company, so he’s not even at DOGE anymore?
If terrorism now means burning cars, what’s the word for killing people to terrorize?
Depends on how much you pay the president beforehand.