Way back in 1999/2000 I was working for a division of the company I was working at before that wasn't based in the UK. As such, while there was a physical office near me, there was literally no reason to go there. I was on a trial of ADSL at the time (2Mbit, and that was amazing for the time) and so, working from home was actually faster than the office.
A few years before, I'd seen the BT engineers hooking up the office's phone lines via fibre (ISDN30). The single fibre ran 30 phone lines, an internet connection and a frame relay for private connection between sites with capacity to spare. I thought that was pretty cool.
I got to thinking back then. Someone (with money) should really connect normal people up to a fibre network. Because that one cable could do many things. You could send your cable tv over that fibre, internet, phone, a private connection to the office (VPNs did exist then, but weren't really the main way you connected sites), and likely other things too. That is, the business would be just laying the fibre and providing access points for ANY service to run bits over the line.
20+ years later we're kinda getting there (albeit OK not actual cable but streaming services. And there's no real need for frame relay any more. But really there's no reason they couldn't do TV with some multicast setup, and vpns are doing the same job).
I think yes, we dropped the ball over here.
postnataldrip@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 08:26
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You could replace the names in this with Telstra and NBN and you’d get Aussies having flashbacks
altima_neo@lemmy.zip
on 16 Feb 2024 08:28
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And Comcast too
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 09:32
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I think actually BT might have messed up by trying a bit too early with residential FTTP. BT trialled FTTP at around the same time as FTTC if I recall correct (in some very limited areas). But I don't think the processes were refined enough to do this residentially at a reasonable cost. I suspect this is part of the reason they moved laterally to commit to an easier to deploy (at the time) FTTC/G.Fast rollout.
Now, there's a fairly streamlined process the altnets are using and BT are now committed to moving to a full fibre network. But, even being the big boys, they're playing catchup to other companies.
In my area (which is not a city or even that close to one), there's almost a divvying up of the area between the various altnets, and they're moving seriously fast. BT? Not a FTTP priority exchange, so don't hold your breath.
Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 14:15
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Here in Denmark we have full fiber even on our highest mountains! Take that rest of the world. 🤪
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BT continues its decades-long tradition of being bloody worthless.
So glad we privatised it really soaring ahead of other countries. To think we could of been the first fully fibre country at one point.
Germany checking in: The chancellors wife at the time having ties to the copper industry doesn’t help either.
There’s a trend with all the countries fucked over on broadband… ALL conservatives/neoliberals.
Same goes for economics.
Copper industry currently is driven by increased integration and increased electrification of EU.
Another thing to blame Thatcher for
Fuck Thatcher and Schmidt-Schilling!
Way back in 1999/2000 I was working for a division of the company I was working at before that wasn't based in the UK. As such, while there was a physical office near me, there was literally no reason to go there. I was on a trial of ADSL at the time (2Mbit, and that was amazing for the time) and so, working from home was actually faster than the office.
A few years before, I'd seen the BT engineers hooking up the office's phone lines via fibre (ISDN30). The single fibre ran 30 phone lines, an internet connection and a frame relay for private connection between sites with capacity to spare. I thought that was pretty cool.
I got to thinking back then. Someone (with money) should really connect normal people up to a fibre network. Because that one cable could do many things. You could send your cable tv over that fibre, internet, phone, a private connection to the office (VPNs did exist then, but weren't really the main way you connected sites), and likely other things too. That is, the business would be just laying the fibre and providing access points for ANY service to run bits over the line.
20+ years later we're kinda getting there (albeit OK not actual cable but streaming services. And there's no real need for frame relay any more. But really there's no reason they couldn't do TV with some multicast setup, and vpns are doing the same job).
I think yes, we dropped the ball over here.
You could replace the names in this with Telstra and NBN and you’d get Aussies having flashbacks
And Comcast too
And fuck Abbott, Turnbull and Murdoch as well!
Better headline: UK government have failed to regulate private telecoms industry.
I think actually BT might have messed up by trying a bit too early with residential FTTP. BT trialled FTTP at around the same time as FTTC if I recall correct (in some very limited areas). But I don't think the processes were refined enough to do this residentially at a reasonable cost. I suspect this is part of the reason they moved laterally to commit to an easier to deploy (at the time) FTTC/G.Fast rollout.
Now, there's a fairly streamlined process the altnets are using and BT are now committed to moving to a full fibre network. But, even being the big boys, they're playing catchup to other companies.
In my area (which is not a city or even that close to one), there's almost a divvying up of the area between the various altnets, and they're moving seriously fast. BT? Not a FTTP priority exchange, so don't hold your breath.
Here in Denmark we have full fiber even on our highest mountains! Take that rest of the world. 🤪
As a Dutchie I was gonna call you out on the mountain thing. But it seems like our highest hill is twice the hight of yours…
At least we have a song about our mountains: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o86s10YyBo