California will force companies to admit you don't own digital content (www.androidpolice.com)
from dantheclamman@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 2024 00:12
https://lemmy.world/post/20261639

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nothing@lemm.ee on 28 Sep 2024 01:20 next collapse

Yeah but this isn’t as big a deal as the clickbait headline.

dantheclamman@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 2024 01:40 next collapse

How is it clickbait?

catloaf@lemm.ee on 28 Sep 2024 02:38 next collapse

The headline is extremely optimistic, but it’s not clickbait.

Retiring@lemmy.ml on 28 Sep 2024 14:00 collapse

This is actually the very first non-clickbait title I have seen all week.

200ok@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 2024 01:47 next collapse

tl;dr

California’s new law will require digital storefronts to clarify that consumers are buying licenses, not outright ownership of digital goods.

The law forces companies to use distinct language when selling digital media to specify license terms to avoid false advertising fines.

The law goes into effect next yea, but won’t apply to companies that offer “permanent offline downloads” of digital goods.

Goun@lemmy.ml on 28 Sep 2024 12:55 collapse

“permanent offline downloads”

How can anyone offer that?

ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml on 28 Sep 2024 14:08 next collapse

(C )Any digital good that is advertised or offered to a person that the seller cannot revoke access to after the transaction, which includes making the digital good available at the time of purchase for permanent offline download to an external storage source to be used without a connection to the internet.

It shouldn’t be that hard, gog.com manages to do it

Goun@lemmy.ml on 29 Sep 2024 05:08 next collapse

Oh I thought they meant having the content permanently available for download, which is impossible. Thanks for the clarification!

rottingleaf@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2024 08:56 collapse

That said, GOG releases is the most common kind on torrent trackers where there are any.

So - there is virtue to commercial concerns, but not in the way that assropes customers.

ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml on 29 Sep 2024 12:27 collapse

They might be the most common because they’re the easiest, but there are also still plenty of people actually paying for the games. I’ll never be convinced that piracy is an actual threat to making money. Piracy has never been easier, just see /c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com for proof, and yet pretty much all forms of entertainmment are as profitable as ever.

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 2024 17:29 next collapse

Google play music used to offer it as well.

WolfLink@sh.itjust.works on 29 Sep 2024 12:59 collapse

  • GoG
  • Itch.io
  • BandCamp
  • iTunes Music Store (it’s still around but can be hard to find because of Apple Music streaming service)
  • Amazon’s music store (but it’s crap quality and they put audio watermarks in it - don’t use them while the two above options exist)
  • Comixology before Amazon bought and deleted them
  • Occasionally there are websites where you can purchase video content for download, but it’s quite rare. I remember buying anime from such a site before.
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 2024 04:07 next collapse

Good. This should have been clarified years ago, and not just in California. I’ve bought too much content that is no longer accessible. For instance, from the Wii store…

Rixonomic@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 2024 04:57 collapse

The Wii store remains my go-to example when talking to people who actually believe they own their digital purchases.

Like, Nah fam.

yonder@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 2024 06:40 next collapse

Nintendo usually doesn’t do the right thing, but they kept the wii shop working for around 15 years after the console released, which seems reasonable enough, though for how much hosting costs they should still be offering downloads. IIRC you could store downloaded games on an SD cars so you could make a backup. Now the WiiU and 3DS, their online stuff shuttered too early. If I had bought Mariokart 8 digitally for my WiiU and wanted to redownload it, I would be unable, yet Nindendo still sells the same game on their newer switch store. The only Nintendo games I can say I own are the ones decrypted on my NAS that work with FOSS emulators.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works on 28 Sep 2024 17:20 collapse

You can still buy and play snes games. Could you imagine if the Mona Lisa was gone because 15 years was a reasonable amount of time to keep it?

yonder@sh.itjust.works on 29 Sep 2024 14:02 collapse

It more akin to having a 15 year period to pick up your Mona Lisa painting replicate after buying it. Although if this was Nintendo’s Mona Lisa, the painting would self destruct if it’s moved to a different wall.

tibi@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 2024 07:47 collapse

Which is why I will never buy a modern console. Once the company making them shutdowns the servers, the hardware will be useless. Unlike retro consoles that use physical media, which are highly sought after today.

_sideffect@lemmy.world on 28 Sep 2024 13:42 next collapse

Sail the high seas for life

ryan_@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2024 05:22 next collapse

“If buying isn’t owning then pirating isn’t stealing”

irotsoma@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2024 06:34 collapse

Which is why this will be fleeting if it ever gets implemented at all. Companies won’t allow it until they can spin it to their satisfaction. For now if it’s just CA, they can say “oh crazy CA and their crazy regulations” just like they say about the cancer warnings which actually are quite useful in reducing your lifetime cumulative exposure even if the chemicals from a single product won’t kill you immediately.

Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world on 29 Sep 2024 06:07 collapse

I remember buying fallout 4 and when the dlc came out I bought those digitally. My PS4 died so I bought another, linked my accounts etc… two years later I decided I wanted to play fallout again, so I load it up and go to download the dlc and it’s asking me to purchase them again. I check my library and they’re gone. I check my game and the files won’t load because I’m missing the dlc files.

Anyways I contacted PlayStation who said that because they have no record of me owning these on their end they can’t help. I have even the purchase emails but because they lost all the data on their end they refuse to give me my money or dlc. So yeah that’s when I realized that a digital library can just be pulled out from under you, no matter how much you spent on it.

Shark_Ra_Thanos@lemmy.ml on 29 Sep 2024 09:08 next collapse

Sucker.

MisterFrog@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 2024 14:11 collapse

What country are you in? You may be entitled to a refund/replacement since you have the receipts