Trump social media site brought down by Iran hackers (htxt.co.za)
from Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 12:45
https://programming.dev/post/32732656

  • Hours after the US airstrike on Iranian territory, Iranian-backed hackers took down US President Donald Trump’s social media platform.
  • Users were struggling to access Truth Social in the early morning following the alleged hack.
  • As the US continues to insert itself into the ongoing Iran-Israel conflict, the US government believes more cyberattacks could happen.

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InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 13:00 next collapse

Small fries given the proved concept behind the colonial pipeline hack

IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz on 23 Jun 13:07 next collapse

<img alt="image" src="https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cia.png">

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 16:12 next collapse

I mean it does depend on the extent of the hack. But usually taking down the website, they don’t take the databases or anything

freeman@feddit.org on 23 Jun 16:54 next collapse

Hacking a Social Media profile --> Tearing down a poster

Hacking a Website --> defacing a facade

If the blinds arent closed by or a window is left open by accident, some information could get out. If the doors arent locked, the attacker could get access to further information.

IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz on 23 Jun 18:06 collapse

They didn’t hack anything. Just your plain old DDoS attack which took the service offline for a while, nothing was (at least based on what I read) actually hacked (or cracked as old-school folks like me would like it to be called) or stolen.

cole@lemdro.id on 23 Jun 19:57 collapse

source: xkcd.com/932/

(for those that want to read the alt-text)

KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 13:16 next collapse

Unclear from the article but, while a bit pedantic, this sounds more like it was potentially a DDoS attack rather than a proper “hack”.

uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca on 23 Jun 13:24 next collapse

In an age where “willfully giving out your account password” is called hacking, here I’d call it tomato or tomato.

JasonDJ@lemmy.zip on 23 Jun 13:32 next collapse

Social Engineering is hacking cmv.

OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 13:36 next collapse

No, because I agree.

lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Jun 14:35 next collapse
Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org on 23 Jun 15:05 next collapse

There’s usually an element of that with cracking passwords. Even if you just try and pick a good wordlist for a target you’re already engaging in a way. The more you know about them the shorter the wordlist. And if you spend enough time getting to know shit about them you can reduce the wordlist to one entry because they told you the password. In a way. It’s not necessarily a completely different process is my point.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 15:44 next collapse

You can argue it’s a classic ID-10T error in your workflow.

But nobody has discovered a security vulnerability within the system architecture. This is the system operating as designed, abet with the wrong person standing in front of the terminal.

em2@lemmy.ml on 23 Jun 15:48 next collapse

That’s called a PICNIC - Problem In Chair Not In Computer.

Krudler@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 16:34 collapse

PEBKAC

catloaf@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 16:34 collapse

That’s cracking, not hacking. If you’re going to be pedantic, be correct.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 18:23 collapse

However you want to phrase it, they’re very different problems with different solutions.

“Someone picked the lock on my door and got into my house” is meaningfully distinct from “Someone stole my keys”.

nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org on 23 Jun 22:43 collapse

It was hacking according to Kevin Mitnick (RIP) so, it’s probably safe to say that your view doesn’t need to be changed.

prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works on 23 Jun 14:00 collapse

here I’d call it tomato or tomato.

It’s pronounced tomato

KingJalopy@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 14:09 collapse

Potato potato

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 15:46 collapse

You can keep your nasty chips

Mearuu@kbin.melroy.org on 23 Jun 13:36 next collapse

In order to launch a meaningful DDoS there must be thousands of compromised machines to use. I would absolutely say compromising such a large amount of machines is hacking.

wise_pancake@lemmy.ca on 23 Jun 13:40 next collapse

A lot of DDOS attacks nowadays are from a DDOS for hire service.

So there could be hacking done, or just a bitcoin transfer.

FrederikNJS@lemmy.zip on 23 Jun 17:37 collapse

These DDOS for hire services make use of hacked machines as botnets to perform the DDOS attacks.

So while the people paying for the service didn’t hack anything, the people performing the DDOS certainly did.

KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 13:41 next collapse

It’s absolutely hacking those computer, just not the site. I just don’t want to get overly excited for something that doesn’t have much meat to it.

Darkard@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 13:43 collapse

Or they just found a buffer overflow bug on their border router/firewall. I can’t imagine Truth Social has a keen network engineering team keeping up to patching and vulnerabilities.

jaybone@lemmy.zip on 23 Jun 17:28 collapse

Doesn’t Truth Social run a super old custom modded version of Lemmy? That thing must have a ton of vulnerabilities.

thatonecoder@lemmy.ca on 23 Jun 17:42 collapse

It uses Mastodon (ActivityPub disabled), and Soapbox-FE.

PaulBunyan@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 15:29 collapse

313 Team is an Arabic-interest hacker collective, aligned with Iran, Palestine and Iraq, they reportedly used a distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack against Truth Social.

The article seems pretty clear to me. Maybe it was updated?

DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 13:31 next collapse

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

wjrii@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 13:56 collapse

We have a president who issues fascistic edicts from the toilet and then phrases them like a Karen in her first term on her HOA or Condo board.

TwinTitans@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 13:44 next collapse

It seems like they just did us all a favor.

regedit@feddit.online on 23 Jun 14:34 collapse

May just be the only thing that saves this country. Fewer people on social media is good for society at this point.

spankmonkey@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 14:05 next collapse

I’ll bet Donakd Trump is very upset!

Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one on 23 Jun 14:20 next collapse

A little part of me makes me happy that Truth Social isn’t even recognizable by name. It’s “US President Donald Trump’s social media platform”

umbraroze@slrpnk.net on 23 Jun 15:53 collapse

I’m happy that the news over here has to continually specify “the messaging service X”. Though I wish they would avoid potential confusion and also say “formerly known as Twitter”.

Ulrich@feddit.org on 23 Jun 17:03 collapse

“the messaging service X”

Yes but which messaging service?

k0e3@lemmy.ca on 23 Jun 14:22 next collapse

And nothing of value was lost.

ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 15:16 collapse

Value gained, actually.

tehn00bi@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 15:37 collapse

Less AI generated garbage.

Jankatarch@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:14 collapse

Things of negative value were lost :D

BennyInc@feddit.org on 23 Jun 14:24 next collapse

Would this count as a retaliation, which Trump warned them against?

blattrules@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 14:25 next collapse

Might be smart for Iran to just attack trump’s businesses as retribution for the bombings; if they attack the military, we’ll surely get pulled into another war, but just going after trump’s businesses will probably avoid a military response and maybe will make republicans come around to the fact that he should have divested himself from his businesses when he became president.

pivot_root@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 14:50 next collapse

going after trump’s businesses will probably avoid a military response

More likely, it makes the poor baby (-hands) cry and throw a tantrum. Being the malignant narcissist he is, he thinks the resources of the United States government are entirely at his disposal. With that in mind, he’s absolutely going to demand a military response to any attacks on his businesses.

Whether saner heads prevail, all we can do is hope.

blattrules@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 15:17 next collapse

Yeah agreed, he’s absolutely going to demand a military response to any attacks on his business, but maybe that’s enough to divide the republicans in congress and they’ll start to rein him in. Still going to take a lot for them to develop the balls to stand up to him, but might be good for us if Iran just goes after his businesses.

Thorry84@feddit.nl on 23 Jun 15:50 collapse

Yeah these are the dicks that cried terrorism when Tesla was “attacked”

colonelsharki@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 16:13 next collapse

With any other president I’d agree but this is Trump. A venal and petty man who wouldn’t think twice before using the country’s soldiers and even nuclear weapons to defend his sense of pride

ramble81@lemmy.zip on 23 Jun 16:40 next collapse

His administration says damage to Teslas equates to terrorism. I don’t think it would go how you’re thinking.

Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf on 23 Jun 19:53 collapse

The bombings are an act of war, so Trump’s already dragged the US into a war with Iran at this point, despite the spin about being “at war with Iran’s nuclear programme but not Iran itself”

I doubt Iran are that worried about the Americans starting a ground invasion either, it would be an absolute bloodbath and will have MAGA and non-MAGA everywhere calling for Trump’s head.

don@lemm.ee on 23 Jun 15:10 next collapse

isitdown reports its been down for over five days, which is quite pleasant.

axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe on 23 Jun 15:39 next collapse

Andrew Tated

umbraroze@slrpnk.net on 23 Jun 15:51 collapse

Andrew Tate’s site was based on some OSS software that they didn’t credit (in violation of the license) and was an old version with known vulnerabilities. Which is why it got hacked.

I don’t know if Truth Social is in the same boat, but it’s possible. I think I heard it’s just Mastodon with federation turned off? Or am I thinking of some other crappy alt-right site?

Ulrich@feddit.org on 23 Jun 17:04 collapse

It certainly had some Mastodon code but I think they sent them a C&D and they removed the it.

flop_leash_973@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 15:45 next collapse

It feels weird to be in support of the goals of an Iranian hacker group.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 16:48 next collapse

Its like watching two shitty people have an argument.

DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Jun 16:52 next collapse

“let them fight.”

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:01 collapse

The only problem is that felon 47 isn’t going to fight. Innocent americans are going to get killed and that disgusting psychopath is going to spit on their graves.

flop_leash_973@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:09 next collapse

He would have to even think about them to do that. I doubt the ground level costs of his actions and choices ever enter his mind in any real way.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:20 collapse

Oh he thinks of them. He thinks of them as trash.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:40 next collapse

Innocent Americans don’t wear the US fascist army uniform.
I will spit on their grave.

So let the downvoting, bootlicking and whitewashing begin.
You’ll have to be creative, not this tired garbage:
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d992f78b-81a7-4694-828c-6a84d818d29c.webp">

Soulg@ani.social on 23 Jun 19:02 collapse

So the entirety of all branches are all responsible equally. Got it

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:10 next collapse

“I didn’t personally bomb weddings or hospitals, I only made a cog for the missile” doesn’t excuse them.
So yes, they can all go to hell

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 20:45 collapse

Its a pretty childish take. Somehow my statement just wasn’t good enough. Not enough black and white. Too much grey.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:24 next collapse

Yeah it will indiscriminately hurt Iranians and Americans and not our rulers. We were both already suffering under our leaders before the American government decided to go to war with Iran.

I may need to go reread Jingo…

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca on 23 Jun 22:12 next collapse

They could revolt

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 13:32 collapse

They could sprout wings and fly to fairy land.

guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Jun 22:23 next collapse

Problem?

How many innocent lives have been lost to US military action though out the world?

Collateral damage.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 13:30 collapse

Talking about one thing but you want to talk about all the things.

pressanykeynow@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 23:03 collapse

What innocent Americans are you talking about? If trade ships are attacked, maybe. If it’s military personnel, none of them are innocent as they are still “following orders”.

Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jun 02:00 next collapse

Tankie fucktoid alert

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 13:30 collapse

So everyone of us is guilty. Fuck you!

pressanykeynow@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 16:33 collapse

Don’t know why do you say “everyone”, I certainly didn’t say that. But if you are in the military of a country that is invading other country and continue to be in the military then you are definitely not innocent(though transferring to a different location might be a compromise).

surph_ninja@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:12 collapse

What did Iran do? Seems like all the shitty is on one side.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:15 collapse

Iran is known for its barbaric treatment of women who refuse the forced muslim dress code. They are a equally corrupt government. No good people involved at the upper levels. SSDD.

MumboJumbo@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:24 next collapse

SSDD? Same shit, different dictator - I like it

pogmommy@lemmy.ml on 23 Jun 17:31 collapse

Solid-State Disk Drive, it’s a regular hard drive with the platters hot-glued to stay still

Bytemeister@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:39 collapse

That’s right. The platters are heavy, and the reader head is light, so we just whip the reader head around at 7200rpm

head_socj@midwest.social on 23 Jun 17:47 next collapse

Yeah good thing the US respects women’s autonomy and isn’t being strangled by a fundamentalist religious movement that wants to force women to be nothing more than incubators, maids, and fuck toys…😒

Sl00k@programming.dev on 23 Jun 18:20 next collapse

Both of you are right but there’s definitely levels to how much worse it is in Iran

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 18:51 next collapse

Iran has more FEMALE engineers than the US and less of it’s population in jail.
Iran’s healthcare has been rated excellent by UNICEF.
I could continue, but facts can’t win from the propaganda machine online.
So I’m just gonna laugh make fun of it.

Inkstainthebat@pawb.social on 23 Jun 18:58 next collapse

Wait fr?

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:13 collapse

Amazing what you can learn if you don’t only gobble propaganda.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 20:49 collapse

You sound like you are just sucking on the other propaganda tube.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 20:59 collapse

One day your mummy will teach you to look up easily verifiable facts, other people can do that already right now and see everything I said was accurate and you’re just a weak propaganda tool throwing insults and slander.

Sl00k@programming.dev on 23 Jun 21:31 collapse

The freedom of both women and the general public is not solely dictated by healthcare and the ability to attain higher education.

Does a free society cut off country wide access to the external internet?

Iran is actively lying to its citizens saying they destroyed the US base in Qatar and there was minimal damage to Iranian nuclear facilities. Both outright lies. This is not a free golden society.

How many women are persecuted from laws around the head dressing and other clothing related issues.

Boiling womens rights down to they can become an engineer and have good healthcare is laughably pathetic and on the verge of being a conservative talking point I would hear on fox news in justification for stripping away more rights. Pinning the struggle of US women against Iranian women is an incredibly pathetic mindset that only fosters negativity.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 09:04 collapse

LOL you’re so bad at propaganda.

“The freedom of both women and the general public is not solely dictated by healthcare and the ability to attain higher education”
I never said that, just mentioned one of those still important facts to show they’re better than the US of which I could also mention many more horrible facts.

Freedom is also not defined by wearing a heascarf or not.
Neither does your cherrypicking about access to the external internet.
A temporary measure in time of war, is that the best you got?

And just check my comments from yesterday, turns out I was 100% right.

Iran did indeed a symbolic attack on bases evacuated 5 days ago, even reported then and they gave the USSA warning.
I also said Iran needed the symbolic attack to sell to their people as revenge.
As I predicted in that comment the theatre of BOTH symbolic attacks, the USSA one and the Iranian one are over just to get the ultimate goal:
Pissrahell can have its way out of a losing war since the imaginary nuclear threat is imaginary bombed. And what do you know, just after this they have a ceasefire.
Unfortunate actually that Iran let them off the hook.
Was going great and heartwarming images from occupied Palestine.
See, you don’t understand geopolitics and its optics.
But then again, that’s not your job, spouting(easily debunked)crappy lies and propaganda is.

head_socj@midwest.social on 23 Jun 21:23 next collapse

Different doesn’t necessarily equate to worse. The IR does oppress women, without a doubt; but American society exploits young women’s sexuality for financial gain, psychologically manipulates them into prohibitive gender norms that are impossible to achieve without vast amounts of wealth and privilege, and then tells them the most important thing they can aspire to be is mother to a man’s offspring.

In short, you, your society, and your government are not as different-and clearly not any better-from any other in the world.

Sl00k@programming.dev on 23 Jun 21:43 collapse

A lot of this comment hinges on your belief that US women are not intelligent enough to to understand that exploitation and manipulation. Knowledge has progressed a lot in the last 20 years. Look at the under 18 and 20-24 age groups <img alt="here" src="https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/645780f0-f6c8-4a18-8a71-b1657a7094e6.jpeg">

There are much better examples of the subjugation of women in the US right now than to pin the societal oppression on US’ fostering of an anti intellectual society.

head_socj@midwest.social on 24 Jun 01:00 collapse

I’m curious to hear how you’ve managed to extract my alleged beliefs that American women are ignorant of their situation from my rhetoric. I can only assume you either severely misinterpreted what I wrote to fit your conclusion, or you’re intentionally being provocative to elicit a reaction. Either way, your statistic shows that while younger women are having less children, the women that do pursue parenthood are simply delaying it into their 30s (possibly a function of more demanding careers and increasing inequality)

I’m sure there are more substantial and academic examples that speak to whatever the heck you are trying to say, but the fact remains that the US IS fostering anti-intellectualism as a vector to sow distrust, normalize authoritarian governance, and further undermine American democratic institutions. Deluding yourself into thinking that it’s not happening or it’s not as bad as it seems is dangerous to women, to immigrants, to trans people, and to the pursuit of scientific knowledge.

Amonverite@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 15:48 collapse

or Alabama

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 20:48 next collapse

Most of us do respect womens autonomy. I know I taught my daughter that. The loud mouth weaklings don’t. They hate that women don’t have to spread on command.

head_socj@midwest.social on 23 Jun 21:16 collapse

I couldnt give a single flying fuck if “most of you” are such good people that you’d willingly live in a militant feminist matriarchy; the fact is our enemy is not Iran or it’s people and you’re here patting yourself on the ass for having the literal minimum level of decency expected of a father

Amonverite@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 15:47 collapse

evangelical-christian-nationalists

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 18:16 next collapse

LOL
The literal hasbara operative excuse to excuse them for genociding those misanthrophic barbarian Palestinians.
Really, you’re all so boring and unimaginative.
Must be tiring defending the many many warcrimes from USSA/pissrahell.
Glad you’re getting youe ass kicked and turning into Gaza yourself, it warms my heart.

surph_ninja@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 18:17 next collapse

While there are religious extremists in Iran, their level of influence on Iranian culture is not anywhere near what you’re saying. You’re just repeating western propaganda.

They did have a controversial new dress code law that was supposed to go into effect at the end of last year, but it was blocked for being to extreme and vague.

However, my state just forced a brain dead woman to incubate a baby against the family’s will. So I’m inclined to agree with those saying the religious extremists exercise greater control in the US than Iran, and by your standards that means they should bomb us. Because I guess you think killing people is equal to freeing them.

[deleted] on 23 Jun 18:56 next collapse

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MehBlah@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 18:58 next collapse

You are stretching that one out. I don’t support Israel any more than I support Iran. They are both trash.

surph_ninja@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:00 collapse

You’re repeating Israeli lies. So you’re either surreptitiously supporting Israel, or you’re serving as a useful idiot.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 18:59 collapse

Yeah the US/hasbara propaganda tools are out in full force.
Sure this cunt is one of them

rumimevlevi@lemmings.world on 23 Jun 18:59 next collapse

It would get even worse if the regime fall. Just look at iraq, afghanistan, libya, syria

pressanykeynow@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 23:10 collapse

So if the US killed those women, problem solved? I don’t get your logic.

MehBlah@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 13:29 collapse

You try using logic. I didn’t say anything of the sort. You came up with that yourself.

Coreidan@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:54 next collapse

“Hacker group”.

What a joke. Any kid with a credit card can unleash a ddos attack on a website.

An irrelevant website none the less. If that pile of shit goes down then the entire world benefits.

unphazed@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 18:48 collapse

Not really. Most people around the world are pretty much in the same boat. The “leaders” of governments try to propagandize differences, but everyone is living the same shitty existence. Elites vs poors across the globe. Occasionally you get groups that are extremely radical, but it’s not specific really to any country (We see a lot of out of the ME and Africa mostly due to prolonged Colonial abuse, admittedly.)

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 23 Jun 17:07 next collapse

Thankfully only DDos. Truth Social is Mastodon so a security flaw could have been a real problem.

Scrollone@feddit.it on 23 Jun 17:13 next collapse

Is It Mastodon?! For real? Does it have ActivityPub enabled and all of that?

MrMakabar@slrpnk.net on 23 Jun 17:24 collapse

It is a modified version of Mastodon, with a Soapbox front end. It does not have ActivityPub enabled and lacks a bunch of features.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_Social#Software

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de on 23 Jun 17:53 next collapse

The Mastodon developers then formally requested that Truth Social comply with the terms of the software license,[75] with Truth Social publishing its source code as a ZIP file on the website on November 12, 2021.

Lol they actually complied with the license in the end, i didnt know that.

MisterFrog@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 23:19 collapse

Surely Trump could have ignored them, as an official act of course.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 23 Jun 23:31 collapse

I wonder how much of it is vibe coded at this point…

Nelots@lemmy.zip on 23 Jun 17:57 next collapse

This is the saddest good news I’ve ever read.

Wispy2891@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 18:04 next collapse

nah it’s a lazy fork so seeing how he chooses people (they’re either cheap or friends of friends or both) “truth” can easily have a totally new security issue

maybe the server has a root password that’s “trump454748$$$”

pressanykeynow@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 22:46 collapse

Never saw security flaw now as a real problem. You just have to live with the fact that there is one. And you will suffer when it’s used. Security flaw later is a real problem.

finitebanjo@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:18 next collapse

Lmfao

Bloomcole@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 17:22 next collapse

I bet it’s the US.
They’re already starting the 💀Iranian sleeper cell terrorists!!!😱 scaremongering in the press.
These kinds of reports in the media are the first step in a known pattern of priming and nudging to rally up the public for another war.

mrodri89@lemmy.zip on 23 Jun 17:55 next collapse

Good, now leak all the spicy dms.

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de on 23 Jun 18:22 next collapse

DDoS is not hacking

theherk@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:31 next collapse

Can be a component of it.

damnedfurry@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:47 collapse

Mailing someone more letters than they’re capable of replying to is not equivalent to, nor a component of, gaining access to the inside of their home.

theherk@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:55 next collapse

Disabling network security and edge devices to change the properties of ingress can absolutely be a component of an attack plan.

Just like overwhelming a postal sorting center could prevent a parcel containing updated documentation from reaching the receiver needing that information.

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de on 24 Jun 15:32 collapse

I haven’t heard of a firewall failing open when overwhelmed yet. Usually quite the opposite, a flood disables access to more than just the targeted device, when the state table overflows.

But maybe there is a different mechanism I’m not aware of. How would the DDoS change the properties of ingress?

theherk@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 16:15 collapse

By denying access to resources in a primary region, one might force traffic to an alternate infrastructure with a different configuration. Or maybe by overwhelming hosts that distribute BGP configurations. By denying access to resources, sometimes you can be routed to resources with different security postures or different monitoring and alerting, thus not raising alarms. But these are just contrived examples.

Compromising devices is a wide field with many different tools and ideas, some of which are a bit off the wall and nearly all unexpected, necessarily.

pachrist@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 21:38 collapse

I mean, I know JK Rowling sucks, and it’s been a long time since the first Harry Potter movie came out, but it was definitely a component and precursor to Hagrid beating the shit out of that door.

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 23 Jun 23:07 collapse

To be fair, they had moved to an unsecure location that was a much softer target by that point. Can a DDOS force someone to move their services over to the equivalent of a century old, weather-beaten lighthouse in the middle of England?

null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jun 15:57 collapse

Define hacking.

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de on 24 Jun 16:53 collapse

I’d start with the following, and refine if necessary:

"Gaining unauthorized access to a protected computer resource by technical means."

  • Port scanning --> Not hacking because there isn’t any access to resources gained*
  • Using default passwords that weren’t changed --> Not hacking because the resource wasn’t protected*
  • Sending spam --> Not hacking because there isn’t any access to resources gained
  • Beating the admin with a wrench until he tells you the key --> Not hacking because it’s not by technical means.
  • Accessing teacher SSN’s published on the state website in the HTML --> Not hacking because the resource wasn’t protected, and on the contrary was actively published**
  • Distributed denial of service attack --> Not hacking because there isn’t any access to resources gained

* Those first two actually happened in 2001 here in Switzerland when the WEF visitors list was on a database server with default password, they had to let a guy (David S.) go free
** The governor and his idiot troupe eventually stopped their grandstanding and didn’t file charges against Josh Renaud of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter, luckily

null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jun 23:02 next collapse

Oh man.

My comment was intended to imply that the term “hacking” defies definition because it has been grossly overused and misconstrued over many decades.

Sure you might be able to convey what it means to you but of course it means different things to everyone else, with each definition being equally appropriate.

Er go, any discussion is one of semantics.

outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Jun 00:16 collapse

When my parents kicked me out, the number of times o got to sleep inside because i could convince people i was the county password inspector was more than zero. It’s hacking.

Wrench? No. But an old colleague informs me that the version done with a machete does count as hacking. I concur.

Those are both way more useful than exploiting a lazy coder’s fuckup, renaming ‘house of many backdoors’ to ‘that package everyone uses in everything’ on github, or some fancy math shit.

Your laws are nonsense bullshit, they’re just excuses for power and I’d appreciate you not defiling language fof the rest of us to justify them.

Crozekiel@lemmy.zip on 23 Jun 19:01 next collapse

I’m still at a loss for words thinking that any real human people joined truth social. We really failed as a species…

KumaSudosa@feddit.dk on 23 Jun 19:03 next collapse

I’m thinking it might have some comedic value and if you’re trying to beat the stock market…

wuphysics87@lemmy.ml on 23 Jun 21:37 next collapse

Equally upsetting. The site is truthsocial.com not truth.social

Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 21:39 collapse

Someone should buy truth.social and make it redirect to something trump’s base hates.

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca on 23 Jun 21:49 next collapse

Meat spin?

Crozekiel@lemmy.zip on 23 Jun 22:43 collapse

They said something they hate.

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca on 23 Jun 22:45 collapse

…with a jump scare?

SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de on 23 Jun 22:35 next collapse

Annoyingly, already registered

Almacca@aussie.zone on 24 Jun 00:16 next collapse

Like Wikipedia?

jacksilver@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 16:48 collapse

Really you should have it direct to a clone of the site, but with fake accounts pushing whatever agenda you want.

outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Jun 00:08 collapse

Fascists arent people. Antifa osint people joined to watch.

Bieren@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 19:51 next collapse

The best hacking. Everyone knows it. Everyone says it.

gmtom@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 22:35 next collapse

Lol. Lmao, even

Kolanaki@pawb.social on 23 Jun 23:05 next collapse

Is this how we find out that Truth Social was running even harder on hopes and dreams than 4chan was?

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 23:12 next collapse

Do twitter next.

800XL@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 00:54 collapse

Fuck it, take down the entire internet

saruwatarikooji@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 01:25 collapse

It’s been tried. A huge percentage of the internet runs on Amazon web services… And a massive ddos attack on that barely bumped it beyond the level of holiday shopping.

To get anywhere on “taking down the internet” they’d probably have to physically take out many sites across the globe.

isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 01:47 next collapse

“accidentally” leaving an anchor dragging across an intercontinental internet cable would do it

jasoman@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 01:50 collapse

Russia is working on it just support Russia. /s

abdominable@lemm.ee on 24 Jun 16:04 collapse

You say this like the hour all major SAAS went down 2 weeks ago was nothing. MILLIONS lost in business hours is not nothing.

[deleted] on 23 Jun 23:20 next collapse

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dellish@lemmy.world on 23 Jun 23:46 collapse

America borrowed a washing machine from America to troll America? I don’t get it.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 02:30 collapse

Whoah whoah there, front or top loading?

frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world on 24 Jun 01:15 next collapse

Iran pls hack Elon Musk’s Twitter account and post “I’m a mean old Nazi who sucks ass at Path of Exile 2”

Amonverite@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 15:42 next collapse

Not just Elon’s account, shut the whole site down!

KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml on 24 Jun 15:53 next collapse

…we need a hack to prove that?

outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 25 Jun 00:07 next collapse

No, post an unhinged rant where he doesn’t say he’s a nazi, but he talks in detail about how he sucks at video games phrased as bragging, then shits on gamers for noticing, and says a buncha shit like the 14 words and junk.

Lucky_777@lemmy.world on 25 Jun 00:21 collapse

Does that game have swords yet? Last time I played, not all classes were there.

DevotedShitStain69@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 16:35 next collapse

Iran is kinda goated for this not gonna lie!

nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Jun 17:06 collapse

they have to start differentiating a ddos attack from an actual breach. one is far more interesting than the other

bytesonbike@discuss.online on 25 Jun 00:15 collapse

I work in tech and I hate it when non-security people talk about it.

It’s really painful to read about “a new hack that can affect billions of accounts” from a source, only to learn its some new social phishing method.