paraphrand@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:00
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What a loser.
I totally understand people who use cheat engine or similar to break games and to have fun seeing what they can do. Skipping content. Whatever.
But those that cheat to be able to boast… pathetic.
And then he’s like “well, everyone’s doing it.” 🙄
einkorn@feddit.org
on 21 Jan 2025 19:20
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Well, since the only persons on his mind appear to be Trump and himself: Yeah, everybody’s cheating.
Empricorn@feddit.nl
on 21 Jan 2025 20:18
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Honestly, one of the big reasons multiplayer sucks now is because of cheaters. You wanna cheat in a single-player game? I couldn’t give less of a shit. But giving yourself an unfair advantage while playing against other people is pathetic and ruins the game for everyone…
paraphrand@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 20:36
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I totally agree.
I agree so much, that I’m always upset when I see comments on a post about anti-cheat software that only focus on the downsides of needing it. They never acknowledge the need.
The benefit of an anticheat can be replaced by an old-fashioned kick vote system. The downside of an anticheat is that I’d need to install Windows and a rootkit on my computer to play some games. Not a problem till a younger relative is over and you have to explain how your gaming PC won’t run Fortnite or GTA Online for security and ideology reasons.
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
on 21 Jan 2025 22:14
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Yeah, I honestly like manually kicking cheaters! However, it is not enough on its own. It doesn’t help when BOTS join the game in hordes and outnumber the human players enough to make themselves impossible to kick…
That is, I would prefer even bots to a kernel-level resteictive anticheat.
Passworded rooms then! Even in games where you play on a centralized server, it’s sometimew possible to have passworded matches. GunZ online comes to mind. I think that game had passworded mqtches. TBF that game had anticheat too, but it never really worked properly. Client side anticheat doesn’t work because someone will always bypass it somehow, and then the server doesn’t know that funny things are happening. And server side anti cheat is going to decrease server performance because you have to track more things in the server and trust the clients less.
Soggy@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 06:50
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That doesn’t scale to larger games. Rust, for instance, has servers with many hundreds of players (and a huge cheating problem). MMOs will have thousands (and constantly fight bots). The nature of massive, real-time games makes self-policing solutions like votekick or manual whitelists infeasible. Manually investigating user reports is slow. And you pointed out the problems with different kinds of anticheat.
It’s easy to see the allure of root-level monitoring, with all that in mind. Both for developers and players oblivious to or willing to accept the risk. Of course, it also isn’t a silver bullet…
EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
on 22 Jan 2025 07:37
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Depends on the game. In mine, that would work for matches you organize with friends, but wouldn’t work with continuous public matches. Bot hosters would find the passwords and still flood the rooms. However, the safe place during the bot crisis were indeed community servers! I don’t know what exactly they did.
paraphrand@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 02:25
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I’m aware of situations in games where kick vote does not work, because they hacked that too. This is possible in some situations where the networking is P2P without an authoritative server.
At which point you can’t even have a truly functional anticheat because any client side anticheat, no matter how invasive, can be defeated.
paraphrand@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 03:10
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They still make a big impact on culture and social norms surrounding cheating. But you’re right. There is no fool proof anti-cheat. Software or hardware. Server side authoritative or Peer to Peer. Even with streaming only (Stadia/GeForce Now). None of them are perfect.
It’s all about mitigation and not having a free for all.
Especially since a lot of games are live service, and banning a regular player who buys cosmetics left and right for bad behavior is detrimental to profits. It’s not about making sure everyone has a good time anymore, it’s about “Getting those couple of whales to keep paying.”
ICastFist@programming.dev
on 23 Jan 2025 15:39
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Anticheat became a necessity because too many games decided to remove the ability for players to host their own servers. This sucks a lot when people get some games that have SP/MP but never really bother with the MP part
There’s also the problem that most anticheat software will only stop the laziest cheaters, usually the ones that aren’t willing to pay for the cheating software. There are a bunch of cheat-focused forums and creating the software can be profitable.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 21:59
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It’s really rampant, especially in games that have aim assist and controllers/controller support on PC. It’s so insanely obvious when someone is using an aim assist device…i.e. no bullet spread on a small automatic gun and hitting like a laser beam at 60 meters vs someone without has a ton of missed shots at that range. Their KDR is magnitudes of order different. They ruin a match. Unfortunately looking to get them banned doesn’t do anything, seeing as using game features buil-in by the devs is a big gray area. It’s not an aimbot or ESP, it’s using and abusing the provided aim assist.
cevn@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 22:05
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Yup. For me it is Lethal Company. While we run from tbe monsters in fear for our lives they have god mode, etc. Which simply ruins the cooperative aspect and just the entire game for everyone involved. Why even play? I guess they enjoy seeing people reaxt to their hacks but I dont give them anything, simply quit immediately as soon as I find out.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Jan 2025 01:42
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Exactly. I never cheat in MP games, but I use guides and whatnot in SP fairly often.
If you’re cheating in MP, just don’t play MP.
HawlSera@lemm.ee
on 22 Jan 2025 08:22
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This ^
If I’m playing by myself I’ll use cheats if I feel like it, like messing around, or if I wanna get that ONE unlock that I’ve been trying at for months now and I just wanna be done with it…
But in an online game lad? There’s no glory in ruining other people’s fun.
Trolls & Cheaters & Just downright punk behaviour is something I don’t tolerate in MultiPlayer
Which is why I opt for more Role-playing games like Space station 13 & Barotrauma
(Not saying that there’s no crappy behaviour there, it’s just that those games are high-ceiling & there are less instances)
towerful@programming.dev
on 21 Jan 2025 20:20
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In a single player game, yeh.
Cheating in a game that impacts other people is trash
tacosanonymous@lemm.ee
on 21 Jan 2025 23:17
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I cheat all of the time. I am fucking terrible at games.
I mainly just have Cheat Engine in order to reduce save scumming in Monster Rancher and keep monsters I like alive longer. I specifically avoid doing anything with the online because I know it’s not fair to everyone else. Though some use mods and cheats for the same game just to make it harder.
latenightnoir@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:03
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Not many individuals manage to form a stain of shame on their related species. I guess he is, indeed, remarkable in that way.
paraphrand@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:07
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I just remembered that Grimes came out defending him on this topic.
She said something about Diablo that I didn’t understand as someone who doesn’t play that game but apparently confirming that, at one time, he was very skilled. Which is absolutely meaningless in a context where he pays people to play for him and then pretends that he did it.
Diablo IV gives scaled advantage for having very good equipment, and you can spend tons of time getting that equipment optimized. If someone else got him max rolled equipment and all he did was pilot it, it might look to someone who is a non-gamer that he is amazing at the game. You'd have to get the honest opinion of other top tier gamers if he is actually skillful.
Some builds all you have to do is keep spamming one or two attack buttons to wipe out all enemies.
n3m37h@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Jan 2025 19:08
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Whaabout being a founder of Tesla?
ClanOfTheOcho@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:14
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What do Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning have to do with Elon lying about having mad gaming skills?
If he says he’s top 20 player and it turns out he bought that account then what does that mean for the credibility of his other supposed achievements? Oops.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:19
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Buying someone else’s ball and going home.
maxenmajs@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:22
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Just excuses. Not like I care, but he’ll never actually own up to this or apologize for being rude to people who called him out.
GladiusB@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:25
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People need to cheat at Diablo 4?
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 21 Jan 2025 19:31
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Only rich people do.
HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:32
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He needs to pretend to be a top tier gamer to win the affection of internet strangers because he craves validation and attention.
Natural born grifter and liar.
GladiusB@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 19:52
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It ain’t that hard of a game!
melroy@kbin.melroy.org
on 21 Jan 2025 20:43
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Yes but he has no time for this sh*t of course. If you want to reach this kind of levels, you need to play hours and hours per day. And every day of the week. Nobody has time for that.
Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com
on 22 Jan 2025 16:03
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Precisely, whenever I heard Diablo 4 I had my doubts, at the least I expected he paid others to grind out some of the time sink stuff. Should’ve picked a game thats less time intensive, though I’m sure he’d cheat anyways.
TheFogan@programming.dev
on 21 Jan 2025 20:21
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To me the reality of it is so damn stupid, If this were back to lying about quake, that’s one thing. He’s claiming on games with continual progression however. Of which even if you have amazing skill, it’s meaningless without time. IE it would be well understood that if someone is in those leaderboards legitimately, they’ve been living the NEET lifestyle (IE spending almost all waking hours playing the game), not say… on a nation tour following around a presidential candidate, while also forming a new government consulting group, spending considerable time on twitter as a user… and being a micromanaging incompetent CEO at 4+ companies.
Hello_there@fedia.io
on 22 Jan 2025 03:36
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Grinding gear games
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it
on 22 Jan 2025 05:04
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Elon Musk confirmed to appear in the largest bukkake scene ever
Ulrich@feddit.org
on 21 Jan 2025 19:52
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He didn’t say “account boosting”, he said they share accounts. I don’t play PoE, much less competitively, so I don’t know if that’s true, but let’s assume it is. Just disclose it. Like, disclose it publicly before you play the game. Don’t deny it after being called out on it and then retaliate against the person calling you out on your platform like a petty manchild, then disclose it in private. If anything, people will respect you more for being someone who doesn’t play video games all day every day like it’s their job.
n3m37h@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Jan 2025 23:55
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Its obvious he doesnt play the game either and showed
nepenthes@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 16:40
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Account sharing is against GGG’s ToS, so Elon should be banned. He probably RMTed it though (still against ToS). He would be fucked during a race though.
In PoE 1: racers stream their entire race. Once a league Zizaran hosts the Gauntlet (HC/SSF) race event, streaming on Twitch (often with a 4-panel split screen). They sub out different races to highlight boss fights and whatnot. You have to provide proof of any “bounty” you won. There are some cash money prizes, so this is all very strict.
During these races, players often have a timer showing how long they’ve been going, and it’s not unusual to see 37 hours of straight streaming the first day. GGG hosts World Firsts events after XPac stuff, and is mindful of exploits.
That is all PoE 1. PoE 2 is in early access; it’s the same people, so it should be the same integrity. I know a lot of Diablo folks came over for it, so I can’t speak for them.
SirDankbud@lemmy.ca
on 21 Jan 2025 19:57
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This goes against the TOS for both games. If you play either, I highly recommend flooding them with reports on that. It would be great to see him banned. He’ll probably just set up a new account and start again, but it’ll cost him and you know he’ll keep cheating so you can just rinse and repeat.
krashmo@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 00:14
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You’re talking about a guy that could pay 100 million dollars for a new account and not even notice. He obviously wouldn’t pay anywhere near that much for something like this. There is no financial cost you can force on him that will change his behavior.
noxypaws@pawb.social
on 22 Jan 2025 01:13
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Still, doesn’t hurt to try.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
on 22 Jan 2025 04:43
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Yeah, but it will annoy him.
atomicorange@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 07:01
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Wealth redistribution I can get behind, even if it doesn’t stop him.
Yeah but the money’s partly going to Blizzard so yeah…
SirDankbud@lemmy.ca
on 22 Jan 2025 12:18
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I don’t recall saying anything about even attempting to change his behaviour, anyone with half a brain knows that’s a lost cause. The point is being a thorn in his side. He clearly cares or he wouldn’t invest the time and money into these games.
Xanthobilly@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 15:21
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You know gamers are called man-child, he is something else
A sociopath
zergtoshi@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 08:04
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That’s missing some crucial information regarding him being a Nazi asshole - amongst other things.
billiam0202@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 21:25
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Man who never earned anything a day in his life continues streak by not earning video game achievements.
Siegfried@lemmy.world
on 21 Jan 2025 23:37
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Peasant
echodot@feddit.uk
on 22 Jan 2025 03:33
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I’m sure if there was actual worthy news this wouldn’t be reported on however there is obviously nothing else happening so clearly we need to talk about this instead.
HawlSera@lemm.ee
on 22 Jan 2025 08:17
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I"m just glad he had the balls to drop the act, I’ve known Twitch Streamers who get caught blatantly cheating who are defiant to the end and demand to sue the company
Edit: Dear downvoters, I"m not saying Elon cheating is a good thing nor am I praising him, I"m just saying I’m glad that he came out and admitted it instead of “Naw bro, I’m totally playing fair and am an expert on Diablo of Exiles or whatever it’s called.”, this is more of a “The bar is so low that I’m glad you shat your pants instead of peeing in my face.” than a real compliment.
AngryRobot@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 08:30
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This is a distraction. Ignore it.
MITM0@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 08:34
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Of course he is
Railcar8095@lemm.ee
on 22 Jan 2025 08:38
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I don’t even want to joke about this anymore.
Stay strong and resist folks.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz
on 22 Jan 2025 08:55
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Idk how anyone can say he is not a real gamer after the nazi salutes seen side by side with his twitter history.
Nah, but it’s part of the radicalisation stream. Get them when they’re feeling worthless, point a finger and say it’s not you, it’s them. Once they’ve bought in, point at someone else. Keep going and next thing you know, you’ve made a domestic terrorist.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 22 Jan 2025 13:56
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My initial reaction mirrored yours; who even gives a shit? But seeing how people have been responding, apparently quite a few. And I’m left here, just utterly blown away that it’s this that is making people angry. This? Not all the Nazi shit? Inciting riots? All the molest-y allegations? Lying about a goddamn video game?
Please, asteroid, hurry the fuck up already. C’mon monkey pox, do your stuff.
VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 22 Jan 2025 14:05
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N n nope. Doomerism will not due. The masses without a voice do not deserve to be flushed away just for the sake of being written off along with the outsized vocal minority of status quo warrior right wing authoritarians (and liberal sympathizers of such)
Red_October@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 14:21
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Believe it or not, a lot of us are actually capable of being angry about more than one thing at a time.
BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca
on 22 Jan 2025 15:57
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It reveals his character pretty well in a clear and verifiable way.
He denied it strongly. Only to have people call him out all over the place which eventually triggered him to admit to it.
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 22 Jan 2025 18:03
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And more importantly It reveals his character in a way that some of his die hard supporters might actually care about.
He’s been shedding fans for a long time now, but way slower than he’s been going off the rails, because the things he’s done have rarely been directly contradictory to the image his fans have of him. Sure taken as a whole they are, but individual actions can be written off as haters using cult logic.
This though, this is… just so pathetic… so blatantly approval seeking and manipulative tendencies.
squid_slime@lemm.ee
on 22 Jan 2025 12:37
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Who’d of thought. A billionaire a cheater. /s
These people cheat at every aspects of life, society rewards narcissism, rewards people willing to forgo morals. We have systematised this were we can look at hi school bullies and have a vague idea where they will end up.
These people aren’t worthy of our respect, and we need to make it known.
TypicalHog@lemm.ee
on 22 Jan 2025 15:28
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Not cheating! Boosting/account sharing.
TypicalHog@lemm.ee
on 22 Jan 2025 16:23
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Why yall disliking this? Have I said something that is not factual or something?
oozynozh@lemm.ee
on 22 Jan 2025 17:37
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i downvoted because your semantics, while technically truthful, are dishonest to the spirit of the accusation
Well, I wasn’t trying to be dishonest. I just like my facts correct.
If that makes you happy, downvote all you want.
Jyek@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Jan 2025 17:40
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Yes, you are trying to be pedantic by pointing out that account boosting is not cheating. But it is cheating so not only are you being pedantic, you are wrong .
Here’s what ChatGPT says (and I fully agree with it):
In PoE 2, cheating involves breaking rules with unauthorized tools or exploits, while boosting is getting help from stronger players. Boosting isn’t cheating unless it involves exploits or paid services that violate the game’s rules.
roguetrick@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 17:53
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Boosting isn’t cheating unless it involves exploits or paid services that violate the game’s rules.
So you agree that paying someone to boost your account is cheating?
I believe ChatGPT was referring to buying cheating software when it said “paid services”.
It may have lost that part of the response when I forced it to condense it into 2 sentences.
roguetrick@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 17:56
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You can’t even get the idiot AI to agree with you on this, but you’re still going for it. And that thing will agree with whatever you tell it if you argue long enough.
No one is arguing that it isn’t dishonest. NO ONE.
I’m just arguing that cheating is a different thing than boosting/account sharing. I’m not even arguing which is worse.
I sometimes wonder if people can even read. I just corrected the terminology and BAM 14 dislikes. SO dumb.
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 17:33
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It’s irrelevant to the overall point and comes across as a defense of Musk by attacking an irrelevant piece of semantics.
For example if people are arguing about pineapple on pizza and you say “pineapple is food so it’s ok on pizza” it’s not addressing the actual arguments being made.
If you think I’m defending him for boosting and account sharing - you are simply wrong.
I just want the facts to be correct. Maybe it’s going over peoples heads cause I’m autistic (I think) or something idk.
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 21:29
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Regardless of your intent, the context in which you make a statement matters. You were wondering why people were down voting you so I’m just letting you know. You don’t have to like it but that’s the way it is.
I get being frustrated at people misunderstanding you, happens to everyone, just don’t stress over the imaginary Internet points.
Chip_Rat@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 19:57
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Ok, so you claim you think you are autistic. That’s fair, reading posts can be as hard as being in a room with unfamiliar people who have inside jokes or use sarcasm alot.
So perhaps then you should listen to what everyone here is telling you: boosting and account sharing is a form of cheating, recognised by the platforms he runs those games on. Elon did that, denied he was doing it. And got caught.
Elon cheated.
No Elon didn’t cheat by using the Konami code or downloading an aim not or mod or anything like that. He cheated by boosting and account sharing.
You are getting down votes for two reasons here: you are wrong (he did cheat, it’s how that you seem worried about) and you are defending one of the shittiest people to currently exist on the planet.
Please tell me how I am defending him by saying that he boosted and accounted shared in PoE 2.
Chip_Rat@lemmy.world
on 26 Jan 2025 14:45
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“Not cheating!”
-you in your first post.
You know when you avoid doing something, cause you know it’s stupid and pointless? Like it won’t matter if you do it so why do it? But then some annoying little turd keeps bringing it up. And now it’s more work to ignore them than it would be to do the thing.
And then you go to do the thing and it takes .5 seconds cause that’s how dumb the guy is. Then you end up enjoying taking the time and wishing you’d done it the first time?
Jyek@sh.itjust.works
on 22 Jan 2025 17:39
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It is cheating. I’m not sure what this weird take is. He used means that are against the rules of play to become statistically better than other players and rise in the ranks. Boosting and account sharing are against the rules. it is cheating.
When I hear that someone cheated in a videogame I think about using external software.
When I hear that someone boosted in a videogame I think about account sharing.
Maybe that’s just me, idk.
ArtVandelay@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 19:54
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From my perspective, cheating would also include account sharing. Would they give me the title for eating the most hot dogs in 15 minutes if I let 10 of my friends help me?
Majorllama@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 17:49
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The users on this site are so cooked. Mans is getting downvoted for using the correct terminology lol.
TypicalHog@lemm.ee
on 22 Jan 2025 17:58
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IKR. Unreal!
xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 22 Jan 2025 18:05
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sarcasm doesn’t work well in text… that’s why we have /s
Majorllama@lemmy.world
on 22 Jan 2025 18:11
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Not everyone who has a different perspective from you is a troll, buddy.
Nanowith@lemmy.world
on 23 Jan 2025 17:10
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Wonder what else he’s cheated at eh?
Mistygamergirl@lemmings.world
on 15 Mar 2025 17:29
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What a loser.
I totally understand people who use cheat engine or similar to break games and to have fun seeing what they can do. Skipping content. Whatever.
But those that cheat to be able to boast… pathetic.
And then he’s like “well, everyone’s doing it.” 🙄
Well, since the only persons on his mind appear to be Trump and himself: Yeah, everybody’s cheating.
Honestly, one of the big reasons multiplayer sucks now is because of cheaters. You wanna cheat in a single-player game? I couldn’t give less of a shit. But giving yourself an unfair advantage while playing against other people is pathetic and ruins the game for everyone…
I totally agree.
I agree so much, that I’m always upset when I see comments on a post about anti-cheat software that only focus on the downsides of needing it. They never acknowledge the need.
The benefit of an anticheat can be replaced by an old-fashioned kick vote system. The downside of an anticheat is that I’d need to install Windows and a rootkit on my computer to play some games. Not a problem till a younger relative is over and you have to explain how your gaming PC won’t run Fortnite or GTA Online for security and ideology reasons.
Yeah, I honestly like manually kicking cheaters! However, it is not enough on its own. It doesn’t help when BOTS join the game in hordes and outnumber the human players enough to make themselves impossible to kick…
That is, I would prefer even bots to a kernel-level resteictive anticheat.
Passworded rooms then! Even in games where you play on a centralized server, it’s sometimew possible to have passworded matches. GunZ online comes to mind. I think that game had passworded mqtches. TBF that game had anticheat too, but it never really worked properly. Client side anticheat doesn’t work because someone will always bypass it somehow, and then the server doesn’t know that funny things are happening. And server side anti cheat is going to decrease server performance because you have to track more things in the server and trust the clients less.
That doesn’t scale to larger games. Rust, for instance, has servers with many hundreds of players (and a huge cheating problem). MMOs will have thousands (and constantly fight bots). The nature of massive, real-time games makes self-policing solutions like votekick or manual whitelists infeasible. Manually investigating user reports is slow. And you pointed out the problems with different kinds of anticheat.
It’s easy to see the allure of root-level monitoring, with all that in mind. Both for developers and players oblivious to or willing to accept the risk. Of course, it also isn’t a silver bullet…
Depends on the game. In mine, that would work for matches you organize with friends, but wouldn’t work with continuous public matches. Bot hosters would find the passwords and still flood the rooms. However, the safe place during the bot crisis were indeed community servers! I don’t know what exactly they did.
I’m aware of situations in games where kick vote does not work, because they hacked that too. This is possible in some situations where the networking is P2P without an authoritative server.
At which point you can’t even have a truly functional anticheat because any client side anticheat, no matter how invasive, can be defeated.
They still make a big impact on culture and social norms surrounding cheating. But you’re right. There is no fool proof anti-cheat. Software or hardware. Server side authoritative or Peer to Peer. Even with streaming only (Stadia/GeForce Now). None of them are perfect.
It’s all about mitigation and not having a free for all.
Especially since a lot of games are live service, and banning a regular player who buys cosmetics left and right for bad behavior is detrimental to profits. It’s not about making sure everyone has a good time anymore, it’s about “Getting those couple of whales to keep paying.”
Anticheat became a necessity because too many games decided to remove the ability for players to host their own servers. This sucks a lot when people get some games that have SP/MP but never really bother with the MP part
There’s also the problem that most anticheat software will only stop the laziest cheaters, usually the ones that aren’t willing to pay for the cheating software. There are a bunch of cheat-focused forums and creating the software can be profitable.
It’s really rampant, especially in games that have aim assist and controllers/controller support on PC. It’s so insanely obvious when someone is using an aim assist device…i.e. no bullet spread on a small automatic gun and hitting like a laser beam at 60 meters vs someone without has a ton of missed shots at that range. Their KDR is magnitudes of order different. They ruin a match. Unfortunately looking to get them banned doesn’t do anything, seeing as using game features buil-in by the devs is a big gray area. It’s not an aimbot or ESP, it’s using and abusing the provided aim assist.
Yup. For me it is Lethal Company. While we run from tbe monsters in fear for our lives they have god mode, etc. Which simply ruins the cooperative aspect and just the entire game for everyone involved. Why even play? I guess they enjoy seeing people reaxt to their hacks but I dont give them anything, simply quit immediately as soon as I find out.
Exactly. I never cheat in MP games, but I use guides and whatnot in SP fairly often.
If you’re cheating in MP, just don’t play MP.
This ^
If I’m playing by myself I’ll use cheats if I feel like it, like messing around, or if I wanna get that ONE unlock that I’ve been trying at for months now and I just wanna be done with it…
But in an online game lad? There’s no glory in ruining other people’s fun.
Trolls & Cheaters & Just downright punk behaviour is something I don’t tolerate in MultiPlayer
Which is why I opt for more Role-playing games like Space station 13 & Barotrauma (Not saying that there’s no crappy behaviour there, it’s just that those games are high-ceiling & there are less instances)
In a single player game, yeh.
Cheating in a game that impacts other people is trash
I cheat all of the time. I am fucking terrible at games.
I mainly just have Cheat Engine in order to reduce save scumming in Monster Rancher and keep monsters I like alive longer. I specifically avoid doing anything with the online because I know it’s not fair to everyone else. Though some use mods and cheats for the same game just to make it harder.
Not many individuals manage to form a stain of shame on their related species. I guess he is, indeed, remarkable in that way.
I just remembered that Grimes came out defending him on this topic.
Or did I fall for a meme/shitpost?
She said something about Diablo that I didn’t understand as someone who doesn’t play that game but apparently confirming that, at one time, he was very skilled. Which is absolutely meaningless in a context where he pays people to play for him and then pretends that he did it.
Diablo IV gives scaled advantage for having very good equipment, and you can spend tons of time getting that equipment optimized. If someone else got him max rolled equipment and all he did was pilot it, it might look to someone who is a non-gamer that he is amazing at the game. You'd have to get the honest opinion of other top tier gamers if he is actually skillful.
Some builds all you have to do is keep spamming one or two attack buttons to wipe out all enemies.
Whaabout being a founder of Tesla?
What do Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning have to do with Elon lying about having mad gaming skills?
Because it’s the same thing. He’s boasting about other people’s achievement. He gives them money and pretends he did it.
It shows you a trend. What other things has he lied about?? He knows more about manufacturing than anyone else… Look at the POS cybertruk
Full self driving will be here next year… Yep 2016 is here and gone, no FSD…
Starship will get us to the mars…
The manchild is a compulsive liar and a fucking Nazi
I think you misunderstood the comment
Just reiterating for the possible MAGA lurker
If he says he’s top 20 player and it turns out he bought that account then what does that mean for the credibility of his other supposed achievements? Oops.
It tracks with everything else. He also bought Tesla in order to become a ‘founder’.
Not just bought either, he had to sue them too in order to be called a founder.
What’s the story there?
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Buying someone else’s ball and going home.
Just excuses. Not like I care, but he’ll never actually own up to this or apologize for being rude to people who called him out.
People need to cheat at Diablo 4?
Only rich people do.
He needs to pretend to be a top tier gamer to win the affection of internet strangers because he craves validation and attention.
Natural born grifter and liar.
It ain’t that hard of a game!
Yes but he has no time for this sh*t of course. If you want to reach this kind of levels, you need to play hours and hours per day. And every day of the week. Nobody has time for that.
Precisely, whenever I heard Diablo 4 I had my doubts, at the least I expected he paid others to grind out some of the time sink stuff. Should’ve picked a game thats less time intensive, though I’m sure he’d cheat anyways.
To me the reality of it is so damn stupid, If this were back to lying about quake, that’s one thing. He’s claiming on games with continual progression however. Of which even if you have amazing skill, it’s meaningless without time. IE it would be well understood that if someone is in those leaderboards legitimately, they’ve been living the NEET lifestyle (IE spending almost all waking hours playing the game), not say… on a nation tour following around a presidential candidate, while also forming a new government consulting group, spending considerable time on twitter as a user… and being a micromanaging incompetent CEO at 4+ companies.
People play Diablo 4? o.0
Touche
“No shit, dumbass…”
—everyone
Come on, you fuckin morons
Said the guy who called a Sieg Heil a “gaff”
Someone with a Twitter ask GGG when the ban is coming for Elon's account
German Goo Girls?
Grinding gear games
He didn’t say “account boosting”, he said they share accounts. I don’t play PoE, much less competitively, so I don’t know if that’s true, but let’s assume it is. Just disclose it. Like, disclose it publicly before you play the game. Don’t deny it after being called out on it and then retaliate against the person calling you out on your platform like a petty manchild, then disclose it in private. If anything, people will respect you more for being someone who doesn’t play video games all day every day like it’s their job.
Its obvious he doesnt play the game either and showed
Account sharing is against GGG’s ToS, so Elon should be banned. He probably RMTed it though (still against ToS). He would be fucked during a race though.
In PoE 1: racers stream their entire race. Once a league Zizaran hosts the Gauntlet (HC/SSF) race event, streaming on Twitch (often with a 4-panel split screen). They sub out different races to highlight boss fights and whatnot. You have to provide proof of any “bounty” you won. There are some cash money prizes, so this is all very strict.
During these races, players often have a timer showing how long they’ve been going, and it’s not unusual to see 37 hours of straight streaming the first day. GGG hosts World Firsts events after XPac stuff, and is mindful of exploits.
That is all PoE 1. PoE 2 is in early access; it’s the same people, so it should be the same integrity. I know a lot of Diablo folks came over for it, so I can’t speak for them.
I’m sure it is but clearly that doesn’t stop anyone.
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I don’t understand what that has to do with this conversation.
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This goes against the TOS for both games. If you play either, I highly recommend flooding them with reports on that. It would be great to see him banned. He’ll probably just set up a new account and start again, but it’ll cost him and you know he’ll keep cheating so you can just rinse and repeat.
You’re talking about a guy that could pay 100 million dollars for a new account and not even notice. He obviously wouldn’t pay anywhere near that much for something like this. There is no financial cost you can force on him that will change his behavior.
Still, doesn’t hurt to try.
Yeah, but it will annoy him.
Wealth redistribution I can get behind, even if it doesn’t stop him.
Yeah but the money’s partly going to Blizzard so yeah…
I don’t recall saying anything about even attempting to change his behaviour, anyone with half a brain knows that’s a lost cause. The point is being a thorn in his side. He clearly cares or he wouldn’t invest the time and money into these games.
Time is money and it’ll consume some of his.
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I enjoy that the meta image is him doing the nazi salute
Not that I like him doing it, just that it’s being shown around.
Known liar founding lying. More obvious observations at 5!
THIS IS THE THING YOU MAKE A POST ABOUT???
Why not? It very much shows what a pathetic he is. Everybody is seeing all the other shit too, trust me
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He’s a 50 year old man
He’s a child.
He’s a 50 year old manchild
You know gamers are called man-child, he is something else
A sociopath
That’s missing some crucial information regarding him being a Nazi asshole - amongst other things.
Man who never earned anything a day in his life continues streak by not earning video game achievements.
Peasant
I’m sure if there was actual worthy news this wouldn’t be reported on however there is obviously nothing else happening so clearly we need to talk about this instead.
This is a consumer board at its core.
I"m just glad he had the balls to drop the act, I’ve known Twitch Streamers who get caught blatantly cheating who are defiant to the end and demand to sue the company
Edit: Dear downvoters, I"m not saying Elon cheating is a good thing nor am I praising him, I"m just saying I’m glad that he came out and admitted it instead of “Naw bro, I’m totally playing fair and am an expert on Diablo of Exiles or whatever it’s called.”, this is more of a “The bar is so low that I’m glad you shat your pants instead of peeing in my face.” than a real compliment.
This is a distraction. Ignore it.
Of course he is
I don’t even want to joke about this anymore.
Stay strong and resist folks.
Idk how anyone can say he is not a real gamer after the nazi salutes seen side by side with his twitter history.
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Yo, did they change the photo? I’m only seeing it in the thembnail
They probably don‘t want to loose the incel people in their audience
Not all incels are Nazis, though.
No, but a lot of them are apologists for tech bros.
Nah, but it’s part of the radicalisation stream. Get them when they’re feeling worthless, point a finger and say it’s not you, it’s them. Once they’ve bought in, point at someone else. Keep going and next thing you know, you’ve made a domestic terrorist.
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Interestingly my instant seems to cache the original photo. If I go on the website it’s a different image he still looks like prick though.
He’s always looked like a prick. Probably because he is a prick.
Who the fuck cares? 😦
My initial reaction mirrored yours; who even gives a shit? But seeing how people have been responding, apparently quite a few. And I’m left here, just utterly blown away that it’s this that is making people angry. This? Not all the Nazi shit? Inciting riots? All the molest-y allegations? Lying about a goddamn video game?
Please, asteroid, hurry the fuck up already. C’mon monkey pox, do your stuff.
N n nope. Doomerism will not due. The masses without a voice do not deserve to be flushed away just for the sake of being written off along with the outsized vocal minority of status quo warrior right wing authoritarians (and liberal sympathizers of such)
Believe it or not, a lot of us are actually capable of being angry about more than one thing at a time.
It reveals his character pretty well in a clear and verifiable way.
He denied it strongly. Only to have people call him out all over the place which eventually triggered him to admit to it.
And more importantly It reveals his character in a way that some of his die hard supporters might actually care about.
He’s been shedding fans for a long time now, but way slower than he’s been going off the rails, because the things he’s done have rarely been directly contradictory to the image his fans have of him. Sure taken as a whole they are, but individual actions can be written off as haters using cult logic.
This though, this is… just so pathetic… so blatantly approval seeking and manipulative tendencies.
He’s the President of one of the more powerful countries in the world, so I think a lot of people.
lol. Sad but true.
Who’d of thought. A billionaire a cheater. /s
These people cheat at every aspects of life, society rewards narcissism, rewards people willing to forgo morals. We have systematised this were we can look at hi school bullies and have a vague idea where they will end up.
These people aren’t worthy of our respect, and we need to make it known.
Not cheating! Boosting/account sharing.
Why yall disliking this? Have I said something that is not factual or something?
i downvoted because your semantics, while technically truthful, are dishonest to the spirit of the accusation
Well, I wasn’t trying to be dishonest. I just like my facts correct. If that makes you happy, downvote all you want.
Yes, you are trying to be pedantic by pointing out that account boosting is not cheating. But it is cheating so not only are you being pedantic, you are wrong .
Here’s what ChatGPT says (and I fully agree with it):
In PoE 2, cheating involves breaking rules with unauthorized tools or exploits, while boosting is getting help from stronger players. Boosting isn’t cheating unless it involves exploits or paid services that violate the game’s rules.
So you agree that paying someone to boost your account is cheating?
I believe ChatGPT was referring to buying cheating software when it said “paid services”. It may have lost that part of the response when I forced it to condense it into 2 sentences.
You can’t even get the idiot AI to agree with you on this, but you’re still going for it. And that thing will agree with whatever you tell it if you argue long enough.
Alright, you won cheating = boosting. Are you happy now?
I’m always happy.
He was boosting and account sharing. We don’t have the evidence that he was cheating. Both bad. Just not the same thing.
SIKE! You didn’t win! I still believe cheating is different than boosting.
Whatever you want to call it, it’s inherently dishonest to take credit for skills you don’t have and achievements you didn’t earn.
No one is arguing that it isn’t dishonest. NO ONE.
I’m just arguing that cheating is a different thing than boosting/account sharing. I’m not even arguing which is worse. I sometimes wonder if people can even read. I just corrected the terminology and BAM 14 dislikes. SO dumb.
It’s irrelevant to the overall point and comes across as a defense of Musk by attacking an irrelevant piece of semantics.
For example if people are arguing about pineapple on pizza and you say “pineapple is food so it’s ok on pizza” it’s not addressing the actual arguments being made.
If you think I’m defending him for boosting and account sharing - you are simply wrong. I just want the facts to be correct. Maybe it’s going over peoples heads cause I’m autistic (I think) or something idk.
Regardless of your intent, the context in which you make a statement matters. You were wondering why people were down voting you so I’m just letting you know. You don’t have to like it but that’s the way it is.
I get being frustrated at people misunderstanding you, happens to everyone, just don’t stress over the imaginary Internet points.
Ok, so you claim you think you are autistic. That’s fair, reading posts can be as hard as being in a room with unfamiliar people who have inside jokes or use sarcasm alot.
So perhaps then you should listen to what everyone here is telling you: boosting and account sharing is a form of cheating, recognised by the platforms he runs those games on. Elon did that, denied he was doing it. And got caught.
Elon cheated.
No Elon didn’t cheat by using the Konami code or downloading an aim not or mod or anything like that. He cheated by boosting and account sharing.
You are getting down votes for two reasons here: you are wrong (he did cheat, it’s how that you seem worried about) and you are defending one of the shittiest people to currently exist on the planet.
Those are the facts. Hope that helps.
How am I defending him lol?
Do you need me to define “defend”? Or are you just that clueless?
Google can help with the first problem. Noone can help you with the second.
Yes. Please tell me how I am defending him by saying that he boosted and accounted shared in PoE 2.
Gosh you are hopeless. I’m so sorry.
Maybe your mommy has time to explain it to you?
Please tell me how I am defending him by saying that he boosted and accounted shared in PoE 2.
“Not cheating!” -you in your first post.
You know when you avoid doing something, cause you know it’s stupid and pointless? Like it won’t matter if you do it so why do it? But then some annoying little turd keeps bringing it up. And now it’s more work to ignore them than it would be to do the thing.
And then you go to do the thing and it takes .5 seconds cause that’s how dumb the guy is. Then you end up enjoying taking the time and wishing you’d done it the first time?
huh
It is cheating. I’m not sure what this weird take is. He used means that are against the rules of play to become statistically better than other players and rise in the ranks. Boosting and account sharing are against the rules. it is cheating.
Cheating would be if he used external software to modify the game state/gained knowledge about the game state he wasn’t supposed to have.
Other things beyond that can also be cheating. That is one kind of cheating but other things can be cheating as well.
When I hear that someone cheated in a videogame I think about using external software. When I hear that someone boosted in a videogame I think about account sharing. Maybe that’s just me, idk.
From my perspective, cheating would also include account sharing. Would they give me the title for eating the most hot dogs in 15 minutes if I let 10 of my friends help me?
The users on this site are so cooked. Mans is getting downvoted for using the correct terminology lol.
IKR. Unreal!
sarcasm doesn’t work well in text… that’s why we have /s
And even then… Sometimes it doesn’t work haha
This is a troll account with a post history of straight trolling. Report and block is the only appropriate response.
Not everyone who has a different perspective from you is a troll, buddy.
Wonder what else he’s cheated at eh?
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