Pretty sure we even have plenty of depressed and lonely people who have actual sex. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them aren’t depressed and lonely precisely because they are surrounded by so many people who supposedly care about them but really don’t.
Marriage and kids did really help my depression. Not 100% but pretty well. I feel like I’ve accomplished many of the things in life I wanted. But it took 35 and a failed marriage to get there.
It is all fine if that is what you really want. It can cause depression though in people who didn’t really want it but tried to get it anyway because that is what society told them they should do.
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com
on 18 Apr 11:54
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Just the thought of sex robots depressed me even more than the state of the world already had.
Why? People are already having sex with devices (vibrators, masturbators, real-dolls). I don't see why this is all that different
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com
on 18 Apr 14:00
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I don’t know why, somehow it just feels different to me. Or maybe it’s just the state of the world that tries to dehumanize everything with “AI” that depress me.
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Apr 15:20
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At least dildos and fleshlights don’t pretend to be anything more than a toy. No one is that emotionally invested in their sex toys. They serve a physical purpose and that’s kinda it.
When you get into real-dolls and using this type of AI. There are mental health issues that are not helped and probably worsened by the existence of these things. Human connections to non-“real” things is weird af. It’s a one-sided relationship until the AI is capable of breaking up and leaving not just getting powered down and restarted.
taladar@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Apr 15:47
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It is probably unhealthy in a very similar way to parasocial relationships with celebrities are if people take those too far.
A good question to ask yourself is whether I’d the tool or the software. A bot using AI to me is not that different from trying to have an intimate connection with an AI without the hardware.
And this already exists. people are already using AI to accidentally or purposely create friendship or romantic partner substitutes.
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Apr 19:04
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I don’t disagree that it exists but I’m against purposefully expanding it. “People already have colds why not spread the flu?”
We’ve already outsourced our creativity and now we’re outsourcing our relationships? It’s just so abhorrent to me.
Suggesting it’s outsourcing relationships is a bit of a leep. Early adopters using this are going to be using this as a replacement for prostitution which is already generally illegal or a replacement for isolate masturbation
DemBoSain@midwest.social
on 18 Apr 12:09
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Can I have two? I always wanted to do two sex robots at the same time.
In 1973, the Texas Legislature passed Section 43.21 of the Texas Penal Code, which, in part, prohibited the sale or promotion of “obscene devices.” The statute defines “obscene device” as “a device including a dildo or artificial vagina, designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs.” The legislation was last updated in 2003, and Section 43.23 currently states, “A person commits an offense if, knowing its content and character, he wholesale promotes or possesses with intent to wholesale promote any obscene material or obscene device.”[1] Section (f) of the law also criminalizes the possession of six or more devices (or “multiple identical or similar” devices) as “presumed to possess them with intent to promote.”[1]
Incineration is a terrible idea indoors. At best, you’ve now got the smell of cooking and pyrolised human juices filling the place, and at worst, is the house being filled with carbon monoxide from the combustion.
Also you don’t want something your body is going in, to also be capable of combustion.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 18 Apr 13:48
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People clean sleeves (fleshlights) on the regular. And an adult sized (please, dear Eothas, let it be adult sized…) android is not something you can hide in a sock drawer. So a cleaning station is very reasonable.
Mark my words, Big Minge will never let this technology see the light of day.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 18 Apr 14:00
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Sensationalism/puritanical stupidity will always color this as “depressed and lonely” in the same sense that anyone who masturbates is a freak who can’t get a real partner (and those crowds are ALWAYS implying a cishet partner…).
“Sex robots” are more or less a middle ground between a masturbatory aide and a prostitute. People who use them aren’t looking for (simplifying) a girlfriend anymore than someone who has casual sex is looking for one. They may be looking for a way to blow off some steam. Sex releases a LOT of really nice chemicals into our brains and, if you do it right, is almost meditative when it comes to clearing thoughts.
Some are looking for a way to “get practice” for a “real girlfriend” because media makes them think they need to make their partner orgasm with just a single look. When the reality is… if you even give half a shit about how your partner feels you are well above the vast majority of people out there. And, if you actually ask for feedback and follow it, it is gonna be god damned niagara falls down there. The good Canadian side.
And, with the rise in long term long distance relationships as well as the acknowledgement of asexual folk, it can be a way for one or more partners to get what they need out of a relationship without burdening the person(s) they love.
I dunno. I generally hate most coverage of these topics because it invariably involves folk showing their crusty poorly wiped asses. Sex positivity! But only if you have sex the way the good book says you should (… with your daughter and against her will?). Same with when sex work comes up. It INSTANTLY becomes the assumption that anyone who has ever considered sex work is involved in human trafficking and blah blah blah. And some of that does happen (it is almost like legalization means victims have somewhere to go for help…). But it ignores the idea that someone might just realize they can trade their body for money in the same way that athletes and “the trades” do.
goldemboy@sh.itjust.works
on 19 Apr 07:08
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Very well said. Also, what about the sexual needs of people with disabilities? That’s a real tabu in societies almost everywhere. There is a lot of good that can potentially come from this. But just like everything it’s in the execution…
Sounds like a pretty big cope. Sex isn’t about cumming. It’s about emotional connection with another human being. Being unable to get fulfillment of this basic human need is sad and lonely. This is why fleshlights have a stigma that beating your bishop the old fashioned way doesn’t - every healthy teenaged boy spanks it on the reg. But actually purchasing a device speaks to a level of hopelessness at obtaining actual sex that is sad, which implies a failure to be attractive, which is itself unattractive.
No, because women can get their sexual needs more or less without trouble. A male sex robot owned by a woman would make me feel the same way though, similar to the man’s-arm-shaped pillows. It is sad, because they can’t get a their emotional needs for intimacy fulfilled and are resorting to hollow physical proxies
Me and my partner are asexual and prefer to fulfil our needs by ourselves + with devices, does that make our wonderful and loving relationship sad and lonely?
This can only cause more damage. Replacing a relationship with a sexbot reinforces already ingrained sexualizations and the perceived transactional nature of said relationships. I.e., women are for sex.
“this can only…” sounds like a reflex.
there is at least two sides to everything.
hm, how about it could replace sex workers. where i live people with handicaps can even get money from health insurance for that.
you think all these toys will be for men,right? i heard women learnt they dont need an entire pig for a sausage.
these toys will free humans from the force of nature.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 18 Apr 14:24
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We’ve had jerking off tens of thousands of years. It’s not a solution to either.
Pretty sure we even have plenty of depressed and lonely people who have actual sex. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if some of them aren’t depressed and lonely precisely because they are surrounded by so many people who supposedly care about them but really don’t.
Marriage and kids did really help my depression. Not 100% but pretty well. I feel like I’ve accomplished many of the things in life I wanted. But it took 35 and a failed marriage to get there.
It is all fine if that is what you really want. It can cause depression though in people who didn’t really want it but tried to get it anyway because that is what society told them they should do.
Just the thought of sex robots depressed me even more than the state of the world already had.
Why? People are already having sex with devices (vibrators, masturbators, real-dolls). I don't see why this is all that different
I don’t know why, somehow it just feels different to me. Or maybe it’s just the state of the world that tries to dehumanize everything with “AI” that depress me.
At least dildos and fleshlights don’t pretend to be anything more than a toy. No one is that emotionally invested in their sex toys. They serve a physical purpose and that’s kinda it.
When you get into real-dolls and using this type of AI. There are mental health issues that are not helped and probably worsened by the existence of these things. Human connections to non-“real” things is weird af. It’s a one-sided relationship until the AI is capable of breaking up and leaving not just getting powered down and restarted.
It is probably unhealthy in a very similar way to parasocial relationships with celebrities are if people take those too far.
A good question to ask yourself is whether I’d the tool or the software. A bot using AI to me is not that different from trying to have an intimate connection with an AI without the hardware.
And this already exists. people are already using AI to accidentally or purposely create friendship or romantic partner substitutes.
I don’t disagree that it exists but I’m against purposefully expanding it. “People already have colds why not spread the flu?”
We’ve already outsourced our creativity and now we’re outsourcing our relationships? It’s just so abhorrent to me.
Suggesting it’s outsourcing relationships is a bit of a leep. Early adopters using this are going to be using this as a replacement for prostitution which is already generally illegal or a replacement for isolate masturbation
Can I have two? I always wanted to do two sex robots at the same time.
I think that you can have as many as you want, though if you’re in Texas, it’d be technically illegal to have six or more:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_obscenity_statute
You don’t need a million dollars to do that.
A guy who looks like me does.
Cleaning your cum out from your sex bot would just feel sad.
Just open the felching hatch and have a spittoon handy.
or just ask it to incinerate it inside
Incineration is a terrible idea indoors. At best, you’ve now got the smell of cooking and pyrolised human juices filling the place, and at worst, is the house being filled with carbon monoxide from the combustion.
Also you don’t want something your body is going in, to also be capable of combustion.
People clean sleeves (fleshlights) on the regular. And an adult sized (please, dear Eothas, let it be adult sized…) android is not something you can hide in a sock drawer. So a cleaning station is very reasonable.
Not a sock connoisseur, I see.
100% cotton? My man!
I don’t imagine that to be the happiest activity. The post-nut clarity must be insane.
That’s the thing: A good quality sexbot would go to the bathroom and clean itself.
Mark my words, Big Minge will never let this technology see the light of day.
Sensationalism/puritanical stupidity will always color this as “depressed and lonely” in the same sense that anyone who masturbates is a freak who can’t get a real partner (and those crowds are ALWAYS implying a cishet partner…).
“Sex robots” are more or less a middle ground between a masturbatory aide and a prostitute. People who use them aren’t looking for (simplifying) a girlfriend anymore than someone who has casual sex is looking for one. They may be looking for a way to blow off some steam. Sex releases a LOT of really nice chemicals into our brains and, if you do it right, is almost meditative when it comes to clearing thoughts.
Some are looking for a way to “get practice” for a “real girlfriend” because media makes them think they need to make their partner orgasm with just a single look. When the reality is… if you even give half a shit about how your partner feels you are well above the vast majority of people out there. And, if you actually ask for feedback and follow it, it is gonna be god damned niagara falls down there. The good Canadian side.
And, with the rise in long term long distance relationships as well as the acknowledgement of asexual folk, it can be a way for one or more partners to get what they need out of a relationship without burdening the person(s) they love.
I dunno. I generally hate most coverage of these topics because it invariably involves folk showing their crusty poorly wiped asses. Sex positivity! But only if you have sex the way the good book says you should (… with your daughter and against her will?). Same with when sex work comes up. It INSTANTLY becomes the assumption that anyone who has ever considered sex work is involved in human trafficking and blah blah blah. And some of that does happen (it is almost like legalization means victims have somewhere to go for help…). But it ignores the idea that someone might just realize they can trade their body for money in the same way that athletes and “the trades” do.
Very well said. Also, what about the sexual needs of people with disabilities? That’s a real tabu in societies almost everywhere. There is a lot of good that can potentially come from this. But just like everything it’s in the execution…
Sounds like a pretty big cope. Sex isn’t about cumming. It’s about emotional connection with another human being. Being unable to get fulfillment of this basic human need is sad and lonely. This is why fleshlights have a stigma that beating your bishop the old fashioned way doesn’t - every healthy teenaged boy spanks it on the reg. But actually purchasing a device speaks to a level of hopelessness at obtaining actual sex that is sad, which implies a failure to be attractive, which is itself unattractive.
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Do you feel the same way about vibrators?
No, because women can get their sexual needs more or less without trouble. A male sex robot owned by a woman would make me feel the same way though, similar to the man’s-arm-shaped pillows. It is sad, because they can’t get a their emotional needs for intimacy fulfilled and are resorting to hollow physical proxies
I am asking specifically about vibrators vs penis sleeves. Are you saying the latter is and should be more shameful than the other?
Me and my partner are asexual and prefer to fulfil our needs by ourselves + with devices, does that make our wonderful and loving relationship sad and lonely?
No. But you are an extreme minority, and your existence won’t change overall cultural views of sex robots.
No
This can only cause more damage. Replacing a relationship with a sexbot reinforces already ingrained sexualizations and the perceived transactional nature of said relationships. I.e., women are for sex.
“this can only…” sounds like a reflex. there is at least two sides to everything. hm, how about it could replace sex workers. where i live people with handicaps can even get money from health insurance for that. you think all these toys will be for men,right? i heard women learnt they dont need an entire pig for a sausage. these toys will free humans from the force of nature.
Fucking finally!
Sigh… Better get out the ol’ PSA:
Don’t Date Robots!
Say no to robosexuality
it better be a Cherry 2000 model or I don’t want it
Upvoted for cult movie reference. 👍😎
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