MotoAsh@lemmy.world
on 12 Dec 2023 15:05
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and what about vs gorilla glass or sapphire? Y’know, like the kinds of glass already used on smart phones?
Soda glass, you could just about step on, on a flat surface with no defects, and break it if there’s even mild deviation. Being stronger than glass is a VERY low or high bar depending on the glass.
Bridger@sh.itjust.works
on 12 Dec 2023 15:07
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Glass can be toughened up a bit by tempering, at a cost. It can be toughened up a lot by other methods up to being made bulletproof at costs both financial and in terms of compromises to clarity and adding a lot of thickness.
The question is whether ‘transparent wood’ can compete with glass in performance and cost.
“Glass” is not all the same. Gorilla glass is many times stronger than a window pane. Aluminum oxide crystals are called “glass” when they’re made to shape. Soda-lime glass is still called “glass”. “Glass” is an exceedingly poor metric to compare anything to, even other glass.
dojan@lemmy.world
on 12 Dec 2023 17:08
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I don’t want my glass to be made from gorillas.
Bridger@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Dec 2023 18:05
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Bridger@sh.itjust.works
on 13 Dec 2023 18:04
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Given that industry likes deceptive trade names- ‘plexiglas’ for instance- transparent wood will probably be known as ‘lignoglass’ or some such nonsense.
aev@lemmy.sdf.org
on 12 Dec 2023 14:56
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masterspace@lemmy.ca
on 12 Dec 2023 15:06
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If a headline is phrased as a question, i.e. “Will X takeover the world this month?”, then the answer is always no, because if the answer was yes they would have written “X will takeover the world by the end of the month” which is a much more declarative and attention grabbing headline.
Similarly, if a headline says something “could do X” that means it won’t because if it was going to the reporter would have written that it “will do X”.
Hyperreality@kbin.social
on 12 Dec 2023 15:09
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Described well. Link to the relevant wikipedia article:
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml
on 12 Dec 2023 15:59
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Headline: Studies show French toast may cause cancer.
Then again, it may not.
shortwavesurfer@monero.town
on 12 Dec 2023 16:17
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Why are you picking on the French? If I had my guess, I would assume Texas toast would be worse in that regard. Lol
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
on 12 Dec 2023 16:49
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All toast matters
MonkderZweite@feddit.ch
on 13 Dec 2023 14:15
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Since it contains burnt byproducts, it probably does. Like 0.001% more chance of cancer per toast per hour or something.
Introversion@kbin.social
on 12 Dec 2023 15:19
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It’s an interesting line of research, but unless they can completely remove all visual traces of grain, etc, so that it’s very clear, it’s not going to be a replacement for glass in either screens or windows. And I’m skeptical that’s possible.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de
on 12 Dec 2023 15:25
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I’ve got a couple frosted windows that I’d love to be as insulating as wood, I can see it maybe being used for that.
It would also be useful for blinds. My doggie is a bit of a little jerk and wrecked mine trying to look outside while they were closed. Wood blinds would likely be a lot more resilient
Honestly, I'd take a woody window to replace the clear glass overlooking the scenic parking lot outside literally any of the apartments I've ever lived in.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world
on 12 Dec 2023 21:50
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If it’s anything like NileRed’s “transparent wood” it won’t work for shit as a window, except as like a privacy window that just lets light through.
Beelzebob@lemmy.world
on 12 Dec 2023 17:19
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An iPhone user will still break it.
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
on 12 Dec 2023 17:31
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It won’t ever be your cell phone screen. Optically, it’s less clear than what we have, and while the wood/epoxy is “tough”, wood is not “hard”. It will scratch easily.
threaded - newest
Wood is wood and wood breaks.
Not bad.
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and what about vs gorilla glass or sapphire? Y’know, like the kinds of glass already used on smart phones?
Soda glass, you could just about step on, on a flat surface with no defects, and break it if there’s even mild deviation. Being stronger than glass is a VERY low or high bar depending on the glass.
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Glass can be toughened up a bit by tempering, at a cost. It can be toughened up a lot by other methods up to being made bulletproof at costs both financial and in terms of compromises to clarity and adding a lot of thickness.
The question is whether ‘transparent wood’ can compete with glass in performance and cost.
“Glass” is not all the same. Gorilla glass is many times stronger than a window pane. Aluminum oxide crystals are called “glass” when they’re made to shape. Soda-lime glass is still called “glass”. “Glass” is an exceedingly poor metric to compare anything to, even other glass.
I don’t want my glass to be made from gorillas.
Yeah! Gorillas are endangered!
Harambe died for our screens.
Given that industry likes deceptive trade names- ‘plexiglas’ for instance- transparent wood will probably be known as ‘lignoglass’ or some such nonsense.
“Could”.
Could. Should. Wood.
If a headline is phrased as a question, i.e. “Will X takeover the world this month?”, then the answer is always no, because if the answer was yes they would have written “X will takeover the world by the end of the month” which is a much more declarative and attention grabbing headline.
Similarly, if a headline says something “could do X” that means it won’t because if it was going to the reporter would have written that it “will do X”.
Described well. Link to the relevant wikipedia article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines
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Headline: Studies show French toast may cause cancer.
Then again, it may not.
Why are you picking on the French? If I had my guess, I would assume Texas toast would be worse in that regard. Lol
All toast matters
Since it contains burnt byproducts, it probably does. Like 0.001% more chance of cancer per toast per hour or something.
It’s an interesting line of research, but unless they can completely remove all visual traces of grain, etc, so that it’s very clear, it’s not going to be a replacement for glass in either screens or windows. And I’m skeptical that’s possible.
I’ve got a couple frosted windows that I’d love to be as insulating as wood, I can see it maybe being used for that.
It would also be useful for blinds. My doggie is a bit of a little jerk and wrecked mine trying to look outside while they were closed. Wood blinds would likely be a lot more resilient
Honestly, I'd take a woody window to replace the clear glass overlooking the scenic parking lot outside literally any of the apartments I've ever lived in.
If it’s anything like NileRed’s “transparent wood” it won’t work for shit as a window, except as like a privacy window that just lets light through.
An iPhone user will still break it.
It won’t ever be your cell phone screen. Optically, it’s less clear than what we have, and while the wood/epoxy is “tough”, wood is not “hard”. It will scratch easily.