X Is The Biggest Source Of Fake News And Disinformation, EU Warns (www.forbes.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 04:00
https://lemmy.world/post/8275160

X Is The Biggest Source Of Fake News And Disinformation, EU Warns::The EU also called upon Google, TikTok, Microsoft and Meta to do more to tackle disinformation—much of it coming from Russia—ahead of upcoming elections on the continent.

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MotoAsh@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 04:32 next collapse

“Excellent”, responds Musk to himself.

jordanlund@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 04:35 next collapse

Musk looks at Facebook and Nextdoor… “WE’RE #1! WE’RE #1!”

pirat@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 14:12 next collapse

Never heard of Nextdoor. What is that?

davidisgreat@lemmy.sedimentarymountains.com on 15 Nov 2023 14:20 collapse

I briefly used it. It connects you to all of your neighbors. It’s good for knowing what’s going on in your community.

Daft_ish@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 20:23 collapse

Also good for finding out how many racists live near you.

Empricorn@feddit.nl on 15 Nov 2023 19:47 collapse

Nextdoor? Is misinformation really being spread on a physical community app? “We had a package thief last week. I know they’re tied to Hunter Biden and the Democrats! MAGA 2024!!!”

jordanlund@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 20:01 collapse

Oh, you would be shocked. Lots of vaccine disinfo for example.

Substance_P@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 04:44 next collapse

Strokes cat and maniacally proclaims … . 43 BILLION dollars! Mwahaha…

seaQueue@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 07:18 collapse

I mean, someone needs to engage with the bots on that platform and he’s certainly not going to pay someone else to do it.

giacomo@lemm.ee on 15 Nov 2023 04:35 next collapse

Twitter has always been the platform of smooth brains. It’s not surprising it is all full of shit.

tetris11@lemmy.ml on 15 Nov 2023 06:08 next collapse

They used to moderate. Scientific discussion there was also top tier

YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 21:12 next collapse

Twitter could be a very different experience depending on who you followed. That’s not the case anymore.

WashedOver@lemmy.ca on 15 Nov 2023 22:38 collapse

I watched a recent clip of Musk from the Rogan podcast. He was asked if regrets buying it. He felt it was his duty in a way as it was run by extreme left wing types that banned everything from less extreme left wing through the center to the far right. Musk said they were censoring a lot of right wing views. He said when you are that far left anything including regular left is too far right for moderation.

It seems like they have abandoned most moderation now expect for the things he doesn’t like. It’s not free speech for all like they claim.

I’m fine with him moderating his social media platform the way he likes since he bought it, but don’t claim its totally free speech and then do what he has been doing. I’m not a fan of the misinformation being shared there either but I don’t expect them to be as good of a resource for open and free information anyways. There’s plenty of other places for that, which are not governed by social media reaction metrics.

zcd@lemmy.ca on 15 Nov 2023 04:44 next collapse

By design

sugarfree@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 04:45 next collapse

If Elon Musk was German or French they wouldn’t say a single word.

donescobar@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 05:06 next collapse

Sometimes saying the dumb take out loud doesn’t pan out fyi

vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Nov 2023 06:19 next collapse

I mean, he’s Danish

sugarfree@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 08:03 next collapse

Elon Musksen from Copenhagen

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 11:55 next collapse

Am I missing a reference here or are you just slandering my country for no reason? 🤨

JdW@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 12:29 next collapse

Well, to be fair, slandering the Danish in good fun is quite the established practice.

I agree pulling Musk into it goes too far.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 12:50 collapse

Do I detect a fellow Scandinavian? If so, you’re right. In fact, I’m pretty sure it’s mandatory by law for the lesser Scandies to make fun of us and vice versa 😁

Foisting Musk on us is like bringing a dirty bomb to a bout of friendly sparring, though 😄

vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Nov 2023 20:21 collapse

Nah, just a glitch in my memory

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 20:27 collapse

Fair enough lol

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 12:12 collapse

He’s South African. He might eat a danish…

vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Nov 2023 20:20 collapse

Memories rot over time. Apparently he’s not. Well, South Africans have Shuttleworth and de Raadt for this to not be a final nail.

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 07:57 collapse

On the contrary. He would have felt the pain of the law from day one. Nearly everything about him that was in the news: the way he treated employees, the ways he kicked them out, the neglect in tackling hate speech - anthing of that would have led to serious time in court. At least the last will lead to expensive penalties, that’s why Musk gets warnings and final warnings now. The law requires that he gets warned before he gets fined, and EU fines are hefty.

sugarfree@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 08:02 collapse

They would be happy to have him in the EU and the regulatory approach would be much more light touch. Him being an American means that they believe they have free range for the most stringent interpretations and harshest punishments.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 15 Nov 2023 09:43 next collapse

No, him being American gave him free range to do all the things he did, because Americans love worshipping rich people since everything can be bought there.

If he lived in the EU, he would probably be in jail by now and had his assets seized for malpractice.

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 10:20 next collapse

Nobody wants him here in the EU.

SweatyFireBalls@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 12:25 collapse

Unless south Africa is also America he is in fact, not American. I don’t even want to start on all the other asinine things you’ve stated.

NOT_RICK@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 13:34 collapse

Elon is an American citizen so it’s perfectly acceptable to call him an American. We shouldn’t gatekeep that with birthright just cause he’s an ass.

SweatyFireBalls@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 22:50 collapse

I’m an American living in Denmark and have done so for years, I love it here and have no intention of leaving. I’ve heavily considered giving up my citizenship in the US because I have no intention of returning, but I’m not Danish. Sometimes people say “you look Danish!” To me and internally I feel really uncomfortable. I wouldn’t even call myself European, honestly.

However, that’s my opinion, and to be honest musk embraced the American way more than I ever did so he’s probably more American than I am. To each their own.

einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de on 15 Nov 2023 04:47 next collapse

noncredible take: musk is a us gov sock puppet and if x is like this then its because that allowes 3 letter agencys to lure certein ppl in security to speak so they can be tracked better.

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MotoAsh@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 13:49 collapse

This would be plausible if there weren’t so many examples of the FBI utterly failing to pick up on strings of red flags on social media.

einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de on 15 Nov 2023 14:12 collapse

u saying there isnt the all seeing eye of the 3 letter agencys on everone online?

we may be biassed cause we only hear about those who slip thru the cracks

MotoAsh@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 17:20 collapse

Why should it be acceptable for them to spy on everyone if they’re not even going to successfully catch people who openly declare they will be violent, for days before the event? When people called the FBI to inform them the person might do something, the FBI responded with, “they’re already on a list”.

Yea… no. If they aren’t catching ALL of the blatantly obvious ones … fuck them. You don’t get to run the show and then shit the bed.

Vant@lemm.ee on 15 Nov 2023 05:51 next collapse

Just cut Russia off from the global internet at this point. Cut all the undersea and underground cables, change the passwords on the satellites, cut them off anyway you can. Yeah, it’s sad for the decent people who have to live in that hellhole, but at this point I just don’t care.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 08:40 next collapse

Their troll farms were in Lithuania and Ukraine, and I’m not sure where they are now.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 15 Nov 2023 09:39 collapse

If they can’t contact their troll farms, they won’t be able to give new orders.

Huschke@programming.dev on 15 Nov 2023 13:06 collapse

They could always send carrier pigeons with new orders.

ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 16:02 collapse

IPoAC was created for such an eventuality.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers

Huschke@programming.dev on 15 Nov 2023 16:59 collapse

55% packet loss. Could be worse though.

nothingness@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 11:42 next collapse

With Russia cut off the internet, Europe and US will have to begin to be blaming themselves for everything.

Cosmicomical@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 12:59 collapse

Found one

nothingness@lemmy.world on 16 Nov 2023 11:17 collapse

You too?

ashe@lemmy.starless.one on 15 Nov 2023 12:20 collapse

Restricting the internet based on where you happen to live can only end badly.

vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Nov 2023 06:18 next collapse

Well, about parts of the world which worry me the most (Armenia and Artsakh) the EC is the source of calling ethnic cleansing “voluntarily leaving” and the perpetrator “a reliable partner” sanctioning which “would be counterproductive yet”. So maybe addressing that is more important.

And if it’s not for somebody, then I’m sure that person understands the subjective weight of their opinion for me (about half a turd).

[deleted] on 15 Nov 2023 06:50 next collapse

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seaQueue@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 07:17 next collapse

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Fisk400@feddit.nu on 15 Nov 2023 10:53 next collapse

That is the crispest Pikachu face I have ever seen.

Pips@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Nov 2023 14:47 collapse

Crispachu

EternalNicodemus@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 13:36 next collapse

Crispy Pikachu

CrowAirbrush@lemm.ee on 15 Nov 2023 18:09 collapse

That’s some high res looking pikachu, i stole it.

obinice@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 07:32 next collapse

Really? Are we sure it’s not our government?

Albinjose7345@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Nov 2023 08:55 next collapse

I think fake newses are not a platforms fault. It’s the fault of the users who spread all those fake info.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 15 Nov 2023 09:38 collapse

Any platform gets users who spread fake info.

It is the platforms job to do something about it. Or face being shut down by entities like the EU.

Because we as a society shouldn’t have to deal with people who knowingly do such things.

Halosheep@lemm.ee on 15 Nov 2023 13:21 collapse

I’ve seen some pretty egregious false info on lemmy. What now?

FakinUpCountryDegen@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 09:13 next collapse

This just in: Apparently, Lemmy was not included in the evaluation. lmao

Critical_Insight@feddit.uk on 15 Nov 2023 13:17 collapse

Trying to correct misinformation on Lemmy be like:

I think many people prefer their own bubble over the harsh reality.

Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 09:35 next collapse

EU is slowly replacing the role of NATO, as the entity that does so much finger waging and then roll over.

Stop with the warnings and just push for fines or blocks.

min0nim@aussie.zone on 15 Nov 2023 10:07 next collapse

Weird take, what’s your beef? They most certainly do slap on huge fines, and are much more aggressive about enforcing privacy requirements than the US/etal.

This is kinda like cursing the worlds fastest sprinter for just not running fast enough.

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 10:41 collapse

Ukraine is proof that NATO isn’t pointless. Zero chance Ukraine would’ve been invaded had they been part of NATO.

And the EU issues loads of fines lmao. I’m struggling to think of anywhere else more happy to issue fines to large entities.

ExLisper@linux.community on 15 Nov 2023 10:11 next collapse

Fine the fuckers till the fuckers ain’t fine.

salvador@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 11:47 collapse

Isn’t the amount of downvotes a sign of presence of US/EU bots here?

[deleted] on 15 Nov 2023 10:58 next collapse

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Linkerbaan@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 12:29 collapse

Noooo western media is credible and never lies. Free Palestine is Anti Semitic. Press freedom shut down all alternative platforms denying this!!!

nothingness@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 11:38 next collapse

The biggest sources of misinformation - EU and US - pointing finger to other souces as misinformation.

salvador@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 11:45 next collapse

The information that reveals the ugliness and hypocrisy of Europe and US always gets called misinformation

EatATaco@lemm.ee on 15 Nov 2023 11:53 next collapse

Great mindless edgy soundbite, but this is patently false if given any type of thought.

MotoAsh@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 13:52 collapse

You are correct in the sense that things demonstrating hypocrisy are mislabeled and hidden on purpose but we’re talking about the much larger circle on this Venn diagram of any kind of misinformation.

callyral@pawb.social on 15 Nov 2023 13:20 next collapse

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dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Nov 2023 15:07 next collapse

Don’t forget people discussing the virtues of Nazism openly!

ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml on 15 Nov 2023 17:38 next collapse

I am absolutely shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

joel_feila@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 18:02 collapse

Well not that shocked

Synthead@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 19:15 next collapse

Don’t you hate it when you’re trying to type and your Enter key transforms into a Fake News key?

!veryrealtechpics@lemmy.world

affiliate@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 20:13 collapse

it’s better than reaching for a semicolon and typing a russian flag again

clearleaf@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 19:23 next collapse

Every X user: Yeah you tell em! Huh? Me? No I use the good parts.

rivermonster@sh.itjust.works on 15 Nov 2023 19:29 next collapse

Being a threat to national security, this company should just be dissolved and its owner put in GITMO.

uis@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 20:29 next collapse

FYI: x.org I mean x.com is blocked in Russia by roscomnadzor. Here’s to-fuck-list:

  1. Putin
  2. Musk
  3. Spez
CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 20:35 next collapse

Biggest so far!

YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 21:10 next collapse

Duh

tswerts@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 21:46 next collapse

When Twitter was Twitter the same concerns were outed. Now X is Twitter minus 80% of its employees. From an economic standpoint it seems that investing in moderation doesn’t give you less concerns and complaints from the outside regarding disinformation, more extreme content, … . The advertisers have the most impact, I think. Together with the users that will look for an alternative.

onlinepersona@programming.dev on 15 Nov 2023 22:05 next collapse

Then stop using it? 😅 Promote your own instance and delete every EU government account on Twitter. Cowards.

rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 2023 23:01 collapse

And the article ends in the author’s Follow me on Twitter.