Amazon To Start Running Ads In Prime Video Series and Movies, Will Launch Ad-Free Tier For Extra Fee (deadline.com)
from ZeroCool@feddit.ch to technology@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 11:45
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OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 11:48 next collapse

With Netflix already having ads we are now 75% of the way to “cutting the cord” going back to reinventing cable again.

Chais@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 11:51 next collapse

And that’s why people started sailing the high seas again.

Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Sep 2023 12:03 next collapse

Arrrrrr! RD be the GOAT.

jeanofthedead@sh.itjust.works on 23 Sep 2023 05:57 collapse

Fr. Stremio is everything.

Miqo@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:12 next collapse

My NAS is my best friend.

0110010001100010@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 13:16 next collapse

I had to upgrade mine probably 2 years ago now. I had nearly maxed out the 12TB I had. Now I have almost 30TB and some breathing room. Granted a lot of that is non-movies/TV but a good chunk of it is.

unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works on 24 Sep 2023 03:58 collapse

I’d be interested in building one… what do you recommend ?

Miqo@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 21:55 collapse

I have an Asustor Drivestor 2 and a 4tb Seagate NAS HDD. IIRC, it was around $300 total. I’ve only been using it for a few months, but it’s an easily expandable setup if you want to add more storage later!

Wintex@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 13:08 next collapse

youtu.be/Th6PW5VwDFI?si=EvzuXbkiQGoeTW3C

Honestly everytime I have to feel proud for sailing I dance like an idiot while the magnet links are being being pasted on the real debrid

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 07:41 collapse

Indeed.

  • Ad-blocking (before anything online)
  • DHT crawler, or index sites if DHT has too many results
  • right-click/long-press on magnet URL
  • copy link
  • paste magnet link
  • remove tracker URLs (not needed)
  • go
  • enjoy

Hm, 8 steps, is one more than the 7 stages of grief; but I’ll take this over yet-another subscription service that continually degrades in quality for the dollar.

BolexForSoup@kbin.social on 24 Sep 2023 19:08 collapse

What is a DHT crawler?

hOrni@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 14:49 collapse

Ha, I never stopped.

TimeSquirrel@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:10 next collapse

"Again"?

I've still been out here since Napster. Welcome back aboard, we kept the torrents warm for you.

RinseDrizzle@midwest.social on 22 Sep 2023 13:15 next collapse

What are the cool kids using these days?

TimeSquirrel@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 13:25 next collapse

Seedboxes. Download the torrent on someone else's computer, and then directly download it to yours through an encrypted connection. Sorta like a "money-laundering" for pirated content.

IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 13:46 next collapse

I was using torrents for years before I started messing with Usenet. Now I’ve got it set up it’s easy to grab pretty much anything and at higher quality than before.

Mr_Blott@feddit.uk on 22 Sep 2023 14:01 next collapse

Honestly still just using Qbittorrent with a VPN; it’s a dream now that fibre is pretty ubiquitous. Mine hit 100MB/S yesterday, a 1.4Gb file takes about 10 seconds

stonedemoman@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 17:08 collapse

Qbit+VPN to grab, radarr/sonarr to catalogue, overseerr to request, and plex/jellyfin to watch.

MajorHavoc@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 13:18 next collapse

As someone who doesn’t sail the high seas, I thank you. Sometimes it looks like there won’t be any classic media left without your efforts.

bighatchester@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 13:18 collapse

I like something I saw on here awhile ago that was something like " streaming services where only successful because they where slightly more convenient that pirating " for a while I mostly used a couple of streaming services despite most of the apps having really bad interfaces . But my Plex server has been growing in size lately while the streaming services are being cancelled.

Wilibus@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 15:40 collapse

My breaking point for paying for something that I could otherwise get for free is convenience. Doesn’t even need to be a lot, I just refuse to pay for a product that artificially more of a hassle than the identical product that I can obtain for free.

It’s not so much that I want a superior product, it’s that I refuse to pay money for an inferior alternative.

bighatchester@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 13:12 collapse

My line is ads if I’m paying for something I’m not watching ads . I actually pay for YouTube premium because it’s worth it in my opinion for the amount I use for it and I use YouTube music alot too .

ares35@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:28 next collapse

if it was still just netflix, and everybody didn't have their own streaming service, that would be different.

but when you add up netflix, prime, disney, paramount, peacock, max, and whatever else, the wallet definitely says it's just like cable.

do one at a time and rotate, maybe have one you 'always' have. you can't watch 10 different services at once anyway.

TheFriar@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 13:25 collapse

Or just download what you want and say “fuck ‘em”

JoMiran@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 13:07 collapse

Some of us never stopped sailing the high seas matey. Yarrrrr!

itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 11:52 next collapse

I already pay for it

ZeroCool@feddit.ch on 22 Sep 2023 11:56 next collapse

Yeah but Amazon’s decided you’re not paying enough.

Sylvartas@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 11:57 next collapse

Time to raise the black flag again I guess

itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 11:58 next collapse

Yargh

BolexForSoup@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:24 collapse

Come on in the water’s fine!

ares35@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:49 collapse

jokes on them, we shop there infrequently enough (2-3 times a year) that they give us prime for free every time we do. there was one short stretch (few months) about 10 years ago where we paid for it because we had a need for the shipping perk, but we haven't 'paid' for prime in a good 5-6 years and that was for a discounted 'trial'.

recently started another free month, so excuse me, while i go cue-up another movie. gotta use and abuse this one if the next one is gonna be polluted with ads--won't help that 'trial' experience and the conversion chance any next time, either.

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:14 collapse

then you’re the type of fool keeping monopolies in service

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nosurprises@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 11:58 next collapse

Will Launch Ad-Free Tier For Extra Fee

So instead of introducing a cheaper tier with ads, they’re forcing customers to pay more?

oDDmON@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:10 next collapse

$2.99/mo. + $14.99/mo. Prime subscription = $17.98 totes.

🤮

GreenEngineering3475@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:52 next collapse

Price gouging and corporate greed basically.

GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org on 22 Sep 2023 13:20 collapse

We have shrinkflation and now adflation.

DepthCharge@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:05 next collapse

Looks like it’s time to cancel prime

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:13 next collapse

this was the last straw? it wasn’t workers peeing in bottles, or businesses being displaced to build warehouses, or tax avoidance, or sweat shop wages for international workers?

to the trolls below, I’m a full time activist, you’re just keyboard warriors

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funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 12:34 next collapse

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Daft_ish@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 10:47 next collapse

Please lord, don’t let chat bubble strawmen be the rest of my life. Amen.

Anomalous_Llama@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 18:54 collapse

While hilarious I think the guy was making a fair enough point lol

Though we can all do better of course.

garretble@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:38 next collapse

It’s far easier to just not use Amazon than it is to not own a phone or computer.

Yes, it sucks there are no good options to buy an “ethical” phone, but phones are basically a necessity. Instead of shopping from Amazon you can shop from tons of other places.

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blivet@artemis.camp on 22 Sep 2023 14:48 next collapse

Yeah, I try to buy stuff from brick and mortar stores. I figure that even if it’s a big box store at least there are actual employees working there who live in my area.

But I can’t even find the kind of underwear I like at any physical store near me. Even online, Amazon seems to be the only place that stocks it.

The same goes for the style of jacket that I prefer. I’ve spent months looking everywhere, and the only place where I've found even an approximation of what I want is Amazon.

I’ve noticed that even in big box stores nowadays the selection is pretty limited. You'll see a wall of racks full of the same item. I don't know if it's supply chain issues or if they've just decided that it's not worth the trouble of trying to stock a variety of items that only appeal to a relatively small number of people.

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aesthelete@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 20:16 next collapse

I went to Home Depot store looking for some (admittedly kinda weird) hardware and after browsing around for a while the store associate told me to buy it on Amazon.

themajesticdodo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 06:19 collapse

Oh god. You’re one of those people who act like raising kids wasn’t possible without all the modern luxuries. You’d have failed as a parent 30 years ago.

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themajesticdodo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 08:56 next collapse

Because the idea that kids are so difficult to raise without next day delivery is a pathetic thing to imply.

That is all.

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themajesticdodo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 21:16 collapse

Is this AI or were you having a stroke?

Either way, I go to a store and buy one. It’s pretty easy.

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Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 14:43 collapse

there are no good options to buy an “ethical” phone

Actually there are. Look up Fairphone and Shiftphone

NOPper@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 15:38 next collapse

As someone who recently tried the Fairphone 4 out to replace an absolutely dying OnePlus 5 I’ve had for years as well as the guy who uses open source everything/advocates for the same - It’s not a mainstream option at all yet. If they could decouple the software from the hardware better maybe people would be willing to deal with the bugs but eOS and Lineage, while awesome projects I support, don’t play with many “secure” apps at all due to how Google decided to lock them down and that alone is a deal breaker for anyone working where you need access to say…Outlook. Banking apps can have issues (depending on the bank) which while maybe easy to work around for you and I is a huge pain in the ass for most folks who just want their phone to work. Having to jump through hoops to get the Play store on there in the first place is not going to work for anyone who isn’t fully committed to the de-Googled experience. F-Droid is the first thing I install on a new phone but there’s no way it’s going to be my only portal to apps I need.

They are certainly meeting their own set goals, and the hardware while bulky doesn’t feel cheap or anything, so that’s great. I really love how easy it would be to replace most of the phone if/when broken, and the commitment to fair labor practices and control of the supply chain is tremendously commendable. But for a tool most humans rely on for day to day life, the honest truth is neither project is quite there yet to be adopted in the mainstream.

If it sounds like I’m shitting on either of these companies that isn’t my intent at all. I’m following the progress with FP5 and really look forward to seeing the ideas set here grow if they can.

Cataphract@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 16:05 next collapse

If it sounds like I’m shitting on either of these companies

It does. The style of your argument makes the situation more complicated. No one said mainstream. From the sound of what you’re saying, monopolistic companies hindering compatibility will keep it that way. Apps will have bugs that need to be worked out, that’s just a given. Stating don’t get it because it’s not viable atm just makes this cyclical since there will be no consumer push to work the kinks out or let people learn about alternatives.

BolexForSoup@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 20:19 next collapse

I think his point is it's a big ask to ask people to deal with buggy/less feature-rich hardware for a product they use - arguably depend on - every day. It's a valid point bring up.

NOPper@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 21:16 collapse

I never said don’t get it, I was replying about viable alternatives. It’s just not for the majority of the market right now. It sucks, and I’d buy some future Fairphone or equivalent in a heartbeat once I can actually use it as my daily driver phone and not need to carry a second one for business use.

Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 20:20 collapse

That’s a bummer. Hope they manage to iron out those issues because I was planning on getting one when my Samsung dies.

NOPper@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 21:13 collapse

I mean… get one and try it out! They have a fair return policy.

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oehm@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 13:35 next collapse

It’s very easy to not order anything off Amazon

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DrGunjah@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 19:48 next collapse

You’re not wrong but on the other hand if you only have morals if it’s easy then I’d say your morals ain’t worth shit

themajesticdodo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 06:20 collapse

Apparently Americans would die if not for uber and amazon.

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 07:30 collapse

The number of people who think they’ve ordered food delivery “from” a local restaurant, not realizing it was actually made in an UberEats\DoorDash all-in-one “ghost kitchen” located in a nondescript building nearby, vastly exceeds the number of people who’ve heard the term “ghost kitchen”. One of the most well-known local pizza shop’s deliveries, actually come from ghost kitchens, here.

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 17:32 collapse

ah yes, the contrarian absolutist here. i don’t wear brands unless they’re second hand, i use the cheapest electronics to suit my needs & use them til they break or can’t be repaired. i make an EFFORT to reduce consumption & about large corporations when i can, what the fuck are you doing to help?

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toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 17:38 collapse

it’s common sense that Amazon is destroying the economy, but keep licking bezos’ butt

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blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:28 next collapse

Have fun purchasing ethical power, food, textiles and electronics unless you're already rich working at a non fortune-500 company lol.

JoMiran@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 13:06 next collapse

Fortune 500 employees are some of the worst paid and most exploited. See Amazon, Walmart, etc. Even at the white collar level they get paid shit. The old “work for a Fortune 100” bit hasn’t been relevant since the dot-com boom.

bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 13:11 collapse

Top level Devs at Amazon get paid 1m a year, plus stock options

JoMiran@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 14:24 next collapse

Top level devs at Amazon would get paid that anywhere. They aren’t competing for a spot at Amazon, Amazon is competing for them.

bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 15:18 collapse

That kind of undermines your original comment…?

JoMiran@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 15:47 collapse

How? People used to dream of working for a Fortune 100 company because landing one of those coveted jobs was a way to secure a well paying job with a nice pension. Those days are gone. Now you either make yourself priceless so that everyone is competing for your skills, or you work for a small firm that values your existence and sees you as part of the team. In a large company, with very few exceptions, you are just a disposable cog in the machine.

For context, I know a lot of developers that worked for Amazon. They all left. The mythological $1M devs are paid that to make sure the competition doesn’t have them. They aren’t employees, they are IP.

bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 16:21 collapse

I think it’s very role dependent. I’ve worked for all sizes of companies and there are shit jobs and shit managers in all of them just as much as good ones.

It’s a little facile to say all those people are disposable cogs, promotions are achievable, new business units, stock options, health insurance etc etc

Landing a job in a top company still does your CV some good.

If you want security and a good pension, then the public sector is probably a better fit.

LoafyLemon@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 15:17 collapse

Did you just tell him to learn2code? 😆

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 17:35 collapse

i already do actually, been vegan for years, how about you?

blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social on 24 Sep 2023 20:02 collapse

Very nice! I try to be as green as possible. Being poor contributes to that more than anything else lol.

Can't even remember the last time I've had a classic slab of red meat that wasn't ground already lol. Chicken is so much cheaper. I'm happy to report that dairy will be carbon neutral in the USA by 2050 too. Not separating calves from mom is becoming more and more popular too!

Szymon@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 12:52 next collapse

Those all impact others. Nobody gives a shit about others. This impacts them, which is the only thing that matters to pretty much everyone. Look out for #1.

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Ferrous@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Sep 2023 14:31 collapse

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circuscritic@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 15:01 next collapse

Get bent. You moralizing keyboard pseudo-activitist.

Why aren’t you out right now on a picket line? Why are you wasting time on a forum, instead of helping the homeless? Why aren’t you…

How far are you willing to take your arbitrary purity tests? Instead of supporting someone who is intending to support an action you clearly also support e.g. cancelling Prime, you’re lecturing them why they should have done it sooner. Or why their choice is less moral then yours.

I bet that if Ted Cruz came out tomorrow to be the deciding vote on Medicare For All, and publicly stating his intent to do so, you’d scream about how Dems shouldn’t support any bill that has the support of such a scumbag. Because to you, the purity test is more important than the actual result and impact.

And if you’re not American, then insert whatever relevant politician and issue would be comparable to your county. The point still stands.

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Sep 2023 16:10 next collapse

This is the best reply to some smug fart-sniffing “oh THAT’s why you etc etc but WHY NOT OTHER THINGS?!” bullshit I’ve ever read.

themajesticdodo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 06:17 next collapse

Just shut the fuck up and keep giving shitty corporations your money.

circuscritic@lemmy.ca on 23 Sep 2023 18:03 collapse

Glancing at your comment history makes it pretty obvious that typing out angry comments is the only respite you have from a life where you feel worthless and lack the ability to take control enough to get out of your pit of despair.

Normally, I’d take pity, but I genuinely think the world will get slightly better when you finally stroke out while hammering out yet another mean spirited and pointless comment that adds nothing of value, just like you.

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Sep 2023 00:12 next collapse

Damn. Delicious.

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triclops6@lemmy.ca on 23 Sep 2023 13:06 next collapse

Their points are still valid, being smug doesn’t erase that. And your being an aggressive cunt about it doesn’t further the conversation, it just entrenches people.

circuscritic@lemmy.ca on 23 Sep 2023 14:08 collapse

So being a smug self-important douche doesn’t entrench people, but calling out their smugness in a manner that you deem too aggressive does?

Got it.

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Sep 2023 00:10 next collapse

You’re an internet poet. I want you there whenever I read these bullshit grandstanding keyboard activist posts.

triclops6@lemmy.ca on 24 Sep 2023 22:00 collapse

Pretty sure I recognized their smugness, but sure i f you want you’re both divisive.

Learn from it or don’t.

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 17:34 collapse

I’m a full time activist actually lol, ive been protesting with picket signs for years around the country , how about you?

circuscritic@lemmy.ca on 24 Sep 2023 19:47 collapse

I travel the country doing woke anti-racist training in blue states, and based anti-reverse racism training in red states.

vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org on 22 Sep 2023 15:52 next collapse

Yeah, not sure how it took this to get people to finally cancel.

triclops6@lemmy.ca on 23 Sep 2023 13:00 collapse

It was those things for me, I cancelled Prime years ago and never buy from Amazon (I will browse however and reach out to the seller via their own website)

Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Sep 2023 16:14 next collapse

“All Of My Awesome Pirated Media To Keep Being Great Quality, Ad-Free, and Forever Accessible”

scorpious@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 23:04 collapse

Just do it.

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:11 next collapse

i stopped using amazøn years ago. shop local & stop killing the economy. it’s just gonna get worse the more money you give them

JoeHill@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:29 next collapse

Should I shop at the Target, Wal-Mart or the CVS instead?

There are no “local” stores near me. Just massive corporations who treat their employees like shit. Costco is the exception to the treating-their-employees-like-shit rule, but sometimes I don’t need a lifetime supply of an item.

WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 12:45 next collapse

Yeah, those behemoths all share responsibility for killing the mom and pop stores. It’s not impossible to shop around to local variants. But probably the best solution is to learn how to kick the habit that American culture has foisted upon us all of buying endless piles of useless crap.

I cancelled my prime subscription years ago. I occassionally restart it for a month at a time if I need some esoteric hobby thing and I would be forced into paying for shipping or for prime. Then I’ll watch some stuff on their streaming service. Last time I used it, it was awful. Half of the shows were gatekept behind some ad system. And the “Amazon Originals” are all just extraordinarily expensive shows with terrible writing. Uhg. I am making it a point to not have an active prime subscription when Christmas rolls around. We (the collective we, as in, humanity) don’t need more garbage.

wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Sep 2023 15:02 collapse

Thats a lot of words to ignore the comment you’re replying to.

All those stores sell neccessities as well as junk, so distilling it down to simply not buying junk is reductive and dismissive. If someone needs clothes and Walmart and Target are the only places available, are they supposed to go nude? Additionally, you’re literally ignoring that they said that there are not local options available to them.

Nome of what you said is particularly untrue, it’s just completely ignoring the comment you replied to.

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 08:15 collapse

Yeah, where my Mom lives, the food options are:

  • Walmart
  • An erratically pricey local grocery, that rents its building (which has a leaky roof, requiring them to move product when it rains)
  • Dollar General
  • A farmer’s market that’s open once a week for a few hours before the afternoon heat, a few months a year, if no events have pre-empted it, having an inventory of which about 30% is bulk-bought supermarket produce with the labels (sometimes) removed
  • A 90 minute drive; no trains, no buses (literally, no buses) to the next largest town

And she lives in a town people drive to, to get food, clothes, medicine, etc.

She gets as much as she can from the local grocer, for whatever that’s worth; the inventory is frequently poor, & about on-par with Dollar General so far as brand-representation, goes. When tourists ask if the store has something, they get pointed to Walmart.

toxicbubble@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 17:39 collapse

yes actually, you answered your own question

SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:42 collapse

I agree but I can’t really afford to. My local hardware store is great but their prices are higher than big box hardware stores or amazon on many items. For example I replaced an outdoor GFCI outlet that cost $25 local or $18 from big box hardware or amazon. The outlet cover was $10 local or $5 anazon.

Kerensky1101@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:54 collapse

It’s the same where I live. Do I shop local and spend 2-5 times more for the item or buy it from lowes or Walmart? The kicker is that it is sometimes even the exact same brand and model item.

Engywuck@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 12:15 next collapse

Laughs in boycotting Amazon since 2011.

BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:21 next collapse

More I see stuff like this the more I believe that these services really aren't making any money and its all smokescreen.

Though this could also just be investors trying to drive up profits instead.

RaineV1@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:56 next collapse

The latter really wouldn't surprise me. A service could be making four times the investment in profit and many investors will still push to get a few more cents out of it at any cost.

DharkStare@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 13:05 collapse

It was awhile ago but I read that a lot of streaming services don’t make a profit and I can understand the logic. With ads, there is a direct link between a show and it’s profits. The more people watch a show, the more people see the ads, the more a company can charge for ads on that show. Without ads it becomes difficult. It doesn’t matter if 100 people watch or a million, the profits are the same.

I feel it’s inevitable that streaming services are going to go back to ads. It’s the better business model.

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DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:35 next collapse

This is fine with me, since clearly they’ll pass their increased profit onto their underpaid employees.

Wait…

SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:35 next collapse

So with the media industry strikes the content is already going to be crap next year. Why not also include ads with it? WTF Amazon.

DrGunjah@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 19:52 collapse

“Can’t get worse at this point, eh?” Amazon: hold my beer

Phanatik@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:36 next collapse

I'd like to cancel my Amazon subscription but unfortunately, my entire family is using it to buy stuff off Amazon.

Codandchips@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:38 next collapse

Yarrr!

guyrocket@kbin.social on 22 Sep 2023 12:40 next collapse

Scamazon

iliketurtles@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 12:43 next collapse

Cable is starting to look reasonable with all the subscription services and ads out there now

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 08:05 collapse

Cable internet? I agree. Nowhere near using all its last-mile capacity, yet.

Arkarian@lemmy.zip on 22 Sep 2023 13:00 next collapse

Well, it seems Amazon doesn’t want my money. Don’t worry, you won’t see it anymore.

Potato_in_my_anus@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 13:02 next collapse

I’ve been paying Amazon for more than 25 years just for the free deliveries. I don’t watch anything on Prime, it’s so hard to navigate between the free and rent videos. Been torrenting since the 90s, yeah I’m old, so my advice stands -get a good VPN, and sail the seven seas-

ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 13:49 collapse

BitTorrents initial release was in July of 2001. You were not torrenting since the 90s. In the 90s we were still on Napster, soulseek, Usenet, and IRC. Limewire, DirectConnect, and The Pirate Bay wouldn’t come around until into the 2000s. I used BitTorrent mostly to get actual Linux ISOs at first because it was better than downloading for several days only to discover at the end that your md5sum checked bad. The pirating came later once the trackers got a better selection than the competing protocols.

BearOfaTime@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 15:03 next collapse

Meh, I’d consider Emule and Napster type things torrenting.

I don’t recall if they used peering though. I thought they did (twas a long time ago).

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 08:01 next collapse

The Kademlia network (eMule, Kazaalite, etc), did indeed use a global P2P Distributed Hash Table, to resolve which IPs hosted which content, which the torrent protocol also does … some of:

Unlike the mainline torrent protocol, Kademlia’s DHT (like the modern-day Tribler DHT), also resolved filenames to content, allowing in-app search.

With torrents, one needs to consult a DHT crawler, or an index site (which sucks; centrally operated sites are fragile, compared to DHTs), whereas eMule & more contemporarily Tribler, have two layers of DHT, enabling decentralized search without relyiance on someone having created a listing at some particular site & that site being online to search its index.

BearOfaTime@lemm.ee on 24 Sep 2023 22:39 collapse

Thanks for the background.

Been a while since I used emule (surprised I remember it!), and I honestly didn’t know the details even then (I was lazy and it worked).

ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works on 23 Sep 2023 09:59 collapse

eMule was introduced in 2002, which is again NOT THE 90s. Napster also uses a very different protocol, without any of the distributed file sharing. With P2P like Napster, soulseek, and DirectConnect you downloaded a complete file from one person only. Once you had it and could share it, someone could get it from you. But downloading bits of the same file from multiple peers at once was not a thing until after BitTorrent’s release in 2001.

BearOfaTime@lemm.ee on 24 Sep 2023 22:38 collapse

Thanks.

It’s been a while (was working in a call center back then, plenty of bandwidth), but my memory sucks. Lol

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 16:03 collapse

P2P filesharing has been around since the '90s.

machineunlearning@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 17:57 collapse

His point was that bittorrent wasn’t around in the 90s

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 21:11 collapse

Not really. “Torrenting” has become synonymous with “P2P filesharing,” so it’s clear what OP meant.

[deleted] on 23 Sep 2023 00:16 collapse

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tonytins@pawb.social on 22 Sep 2023 13:42 next collapse

I wonder what their reason for cable-cutting will be now.

MrPloppy@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 13:56 next collapse

Yup, I will be cancelling too. Greedy bastards.

deven@kerala.party on 22 Sep 2023 14:25 next collapse

All hand hoy!

WagnasT@iusearchlinux.fyi on 22 Sep 2023 14:28 next collapse

Was already going to cancel when my renewal was up, now i’ll cancel even harder.

Bananable@feddit.nl on 22 Sep 2023 14:56 collapse

Come sail the high seas.

Gazumi@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 14:53 next collapse

This is bad for everyone. I’m still a Prime Member for shopping etc., but thats really got to be reconsidered now too.

Waldowal@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 15:00 next collapse

Don’t worry, it will be presented like this:

“To continue offering you high quality original programming like X and Y, we have to raise our price for Amazon Prime. But don’t worry, we’re now adding a lower cost ad-based alternative called Amazon Subprime.”

So, as usual, most people will be fine with it and put the plastic bag back over their head.

ColdWater@lemmy.ca on 22 Sep 2023 15:11 next collapse

Ahoy 🏴‍☠️

domin8r@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 15:35 collapse

Arrr me matey

TwoGems@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 15:23 next collapse

We should have canceled when Prime got rid of UPS pick up for free. Only reason I used it. Now there is zero benefit to Prime with this new stupid ad tier. You don’t even get free grocery delivery.

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 07:46 collapse

They’re still happy to accept food-stamp revenue though, if you get Amazon Prime, of course…

iterable@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 15:31 next collapse

Got prime when Grand Tour came out. Now that we get two episodes a year if lucky not worth it anymore. Get better service with Instacart for delivery anyway.

collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Sep 2023 16:32 collapse

Arrrrrr

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 15:33 next collapse

The corporate enshittification of once decent products and services continues unabated. Amazons decision to charge for UPS store returns even if the products they delivered were defective was almost enough for me to cancel Prime, but this seals the deal. When Amazon Prime commercials begin my Prime membership and most of my Amazon purchases end.

cjsolx@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 20:32 collapse

When did they make the UPS change? I made a return last week, no charge.

spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works on 22 Sep 2023 21:23 next collapse

I had to return a DOA item last week and they imposed the charge for the first time. It depends on your specific situation though. In my case a Staples is physically closer than a UPS store, but I’m never near the Staples while I’m in the UPS store parking lot twice a week.

It wouldn’t bother me if I were returning items because I changed my mind, but when I’m already inconvenienced because of crappy product quality I don’t expect to be further inconvenienced so Amazon can save a buck.

poppy@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 00:28 collapse

I think it depends on the cost/reason of return, and where you’re returning it. Sometimes I have to pay a $1 fee to take to a UPS store but taking it to Kohl’s drop off is free.

MargotRobbie@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 16:13 next collapse

And… we are back to cable again.

Squirrel@thelemmy.club on 22 Sep 2023 16:55 next collapse

But with no DVRs to fast forward through ads. (Yes, I know that was a “recent” cable thing, but still.)

admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 22 Sep 2023 17:25 collapse

☠️?

[deleted] on 22 Sep 2023 16:22 next collapse

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collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Sep 2023 16:31 next collapse

Finally! I’ve been waiting for a good enough reason to cancel Prime

spiderman@ani.social on 22 Sep 2023 17:17 next collapse

you don’t need a reason to cancel a sub, if you don’t like it, just do it.

collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de on 22 Sep 2023 17:38 collapse

I’m addicted to the shipping

themajesticdodo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 06:15 next collapse

American. Right?

[deleted] on 23 Sep 2023 07:00 collapse

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themajesticdodo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 06:15 collapse

Congratulations on waiting and paying them for a service you didn’t want?

kadotux@sopuli.xyz on 22 Sep 2023 17:02 next collapse

“Commercials in movies and series will be introduced in the U.S., UK, Germany, and Canada in early 2024, followed by France, Italy, Spain, Mexico, and Australia later in the year.”

So rest of the world is safe from this at least until 2025?

WhiteHawk@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 17:48 next collapse

Eh, I only use prime video because it doesn’t cost extra, I don’t really need it. Back to piracy it will be, I guess.

cjsolx@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 20:31 collapse

Give me a prime membership that’s just for shipping. Cut the video out of the deal and stop including it in my charge kthx

NightAuthor@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 21:14 collapse

They’re doing that, except it’s getting more expensive for video instead of cheaper for shipping.

i_simp_4_tedcruz@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 17:48 next collapse

Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum, matey.

IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 18:04 next collapse

Why??! Amazin makes money already!! We’ve already paid for this!

nulluser@programming.dev on 22 Sep 2023 18:15 next collapse

Enshitification

cjsolx@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 20:31 next collapse

Why, more money of course.

themajesticdodo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 06:13 collapse

Oh no. Did Amazon treat you poorly? Damn. I bet you thought it was just their employees they treat like shit.

Well, at least you learnt something today.

IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 08:38 collapse

Boy, late stage capitalism sucks 😒

JustZ@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 18:22 next collapse

There goes that.

Prior_Industry@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 18:22 next collapse

So basically we’re pretty much back to paying for a TV package.

Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Sep 2023 20:55 next collapse

Piracy it is then. Lol.

airportline@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 21:02 next collapse

Join !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

InternetUser2012@midwest.social on 22 Sep 2023 21:48 next collapse

That will be the end of my prime subscription. I should probably just get rid of it now, the streams are better quality on the high seas anyways.

Lauchs@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 22:17 next collapse

I was thinking the same but will hold on until I see my first add. I suspect the more of us who do that, the better the odds they reverse course.

sudo@lemmy.today on 22 Sep 2023 23:11 next collapse

Then do it. You even get pro rated back for what you’ve already paid for the month. Literally go do it right now in like 90 seconds.

InternetUser2012@midwest.social on 23 Sep 2023 00:34 collapse

Done. Thank you.

HawlSera@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 23:26 collapse

I have a free vpn, but maybe I should go for the paid plans that I can actually use it for torrenting

redimk@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Sep 2023 22:09 next collapse

When do you guys think they (companies/rich people/shareholders(?)) will realize that growth for the sake of growth is not viable and there will be a point of stagnation? Like… What are they gonna do, keep raising prices until nobody can b uy anything anymore?

sudo@lemmy.today on 22 Sep 2023 23:09 collapse

When it stops being viable. They have no commitment to the company. They’ll suck it dry and move on to the next project.

bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world on 22 Sep 2023 22:34 next collapse

I already have the ad free tier. It’s what I’ve been paying for!!!

creamed_eels@toast.ooo on 22 Sep 2023 23:23 collapse

No, you don’t get it. Jeff Bezos needs another solid platinum super yacht. Won’t you please think of the poor billionaires.

bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world on 23 Sep 2023 17:59 collapse

I’m fine with that. At the expense of other people besides me! Jeesh the audacity. :/ haha. (jk obviously)

Smacks@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 22:52 next collapse

Streaming has essentially become TV packages again. The golden age of streaming is dead, long live Davy Jones!

pyromaniac_donkey@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 23:11 next collapse

I still dont understand the need of people who watch tv series. How fucking empty and boring must their lives be.

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 08:27 collapse

I can’t speak for anyone else, but yes, mine is.

I’ve never had Prime though. The reason my life is boring and empty, is (I think) because I avoid participating in things I don’t wholeheartedly approve of.

Viewing media, is an insidiously passive form of participation, so I do intently watch plenty of TV\movies (recently figured out it’s about 6-8 things a week).

The rest of my life is just household chores, bicycling, & traveling when I get the chance.
Doing Things makes me feel like Ged.

pyromaniac_donkey@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 10:12 collapse

The first step is realizing its a problem. Dont let TV take care of your life brother.

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 12:50 collapse

So real; I have just years of old '90s SciFi etched into my brain. SciFi novels, too, but it might be nice if some percentage were nonfiction? I dunno, honestly at this point I’m just glad when I see media with a plot that I don’t immediately foresee the denouement of.

Weirdly, I watch less TV now than when I had more monthly bills to work off.

I was even doing pretty well about steering clear of social-marketing sites, until SMBC-comics added a comments section directly below the first of four stops on my (semi-)daily funny pages.

pyromaniac_donkey@lemmy.world on 22 Sep 2023 23:12 next collapse

The american culture and America itself is a cancer to the world. Good thing that shithole is collapsing.

Kase@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 01:48 next collapse

hey now :(

BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 02:11 collapse

america is collapsing because a company raised prices?

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 08:04 collapse

Well, not just because a company, did…

HawlSera@lemm.ee on 22 Sep 2023 23:17 next collapse

Why don’t you just make a free version that plays ads? You know that reason why every sane person uses Tubi?

You know that one site which is the only that I don’t use my ad blocker on, because I actually respect them enough to let the ads play

Voli@lemmy.ml on 22 Sep 2023 23:24 collapse

Because people are ready to spend money to see ads just for the convince of cheaper monthly subscription fee.

Miqo@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 10:18 collapse

There is no cheaper subscription. The current prime sub gets adds added. Ad-free will cost more then the current ad-free subscription. “I’m altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further.”

Prox@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 01:06 next collapse

Having ads in fucking movies makes a service feel cheap / lower value. But the price is staying the same, so where’s that button to cancel?

PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 02:18 next collapse

That’s the great part, you can’t cancel.

Rolando@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 03:57 collapse

You can cancel. Source: cancelled recently.

Skyhighatrist@lemmy.ca on 23 Sep 2023 03:28 next collapse

I ended up googling cancel prime membership, and that led me to a page with a cancel button.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 12:50 collapse

I’d say we crossed the Rubicon on this front decades ago, when in-person, at the theater, movies started showing actual ads and not just trailers before the movie you just paid for (and it was at the same price, of course).

I remember the first time I experienced this in a theater. My GF was like “…the hell?” and people were fucking booing the ads. But it didn’t matter enough - the ads are still here.

And yeah, it still annoys me.

gringo_papi@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 01:10 next collapse

The internet has gotten 3x shittier in the last 12 months.

GladiusB@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 02:56 next collapse

Covid kindness is over. Buckle up buckaroos.

gnuplusmatt@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 03:09 next collapse

the money is drying up, gotta find new ways to monetise

snaggen@programming.dev on 23 Sep 2023 06:32 next collapse

All these services turning into shit, are the services without a viable business model to begin with. What I find interesting is that it is obviously possible to become leading in a field, just by burning investors money.

PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 20:25 collapse

It wouldn’t matter if they were drowning in money, if you told them they could have a few pennies more from each customer, they’ll do it. It’s how greed works.

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 03:37 collapse

There’s a reason for it, people don’t push back enough. We all need to push back more than we have been.

They’re noticing the pushback so far, but they’re thinking they can break through it and come out victorious on the other side.

Do you really want to pay a monthly fee to be forced to watch commercials?

The whole point of commercials was that you didn’t have to pay otherwise to watch the show.

Blastasaurus@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 06:44 next collapse

I’ve cancelled everything in my life that requires a monthly payment (asides vehicle and rent).

It’s not that I can’t afford it, it’s that I’m fucking sick of it.

FordPrefect@startrek.website on 23 Sep 2023 06:47 next collapse

^ This. 💯

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 18:20 collapse

It’s not that I can’t afford it, it’s that I’m fucking sick of it.

And that’s how they win, it’s what they count on. It’s a death by a thousand cuts for us and more profits for them.

Don’t give up now, you won’t just fail yourself, you’ll fail everyone, if you do.

AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml on 23 Sep 2023 07:03 next collapse

Eternal September is real. It’s sad

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 18:25 collapse
cyberpunk007@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 07:38 next collapse

Apparently this is how cable started, and then they did the same thing lol

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 18:22 collapse

That was in back before the Internet though.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 21:31 collapse

The internet was invented in the 60s

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 00:39 collapse

I know, I was there. But I’m talking about when it was used by the larger general public, which was in the 90’s. Before that, it was people dialing up on modems to BBS’.

PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 10:41 collapse

Partly, this is because “the free market will solve it” is just a neoliberal lie. Sometimes, there’s simply no other choice as corporations race each other to the bottom.

So this streaming service might have gotten shitty, espensive or unethical, but you can move to another right? Oh no, looks like they’re shitty and unethical too, just slightly differently.

Then in six months time, they’ve each absorbed one another’s shitty, greedy practises anyway, ensuring consumers are fully exploited with nowhere else to go.

But the true power of neoliberalism lies in its giant book of premade excuses, so neoliberals (or neoliberals in disguise) will of course read from the next page:

“Oh that’s just because there isn’t enough competition. We just need to deregulate heavily and allow companies to do whatever the streaming equivalent of dumping toxic by-products in the river is!”

But of course, that won’t ever come true either. The companies that already exist will grow more profitable polluting the river and new entries into the market will be either stamped out, bought and stripped for parts or enshittified by the same greed over time.

Following the flowchart taught at exclusive, expensive schools the world over, the next excuse is to blame the consumers.

“Oh if people really cared, they’d simply stop buying things entirely. But they don’t, because these companies continue to bring in record profits. So secretly, consumers actually love their chocolate being picked by child slaves”.

While they do fight back with boycotts, public outcry and (in this case) things like password sharing and piracy, it’s nothing companies can’t crush if it looks like it might actually dent their profits.

At some point, consumers need to pick their misery and the choices are bleak but obvious.

They can accept the minor misery of advertising, even as they pay a subscription, just like the corporation knew they would.

They can escalate their own misery further by boycotting the entire platform or industry.

But the moral high ground doesn’t make spending your few hours of personal time each day staring at the wall suddenly as entertaining as whatever content you’re no longer watching.

Also, the company doesn’t care. That was part of their calculations and they’re still making even more money.

Or finally, they could maximise their misery and actually do something, like busting out the guillotines or becoming a politician that opposes neoliberalism yet is somehow allowed power.

So anyway, people are tired. The fight never ends and some people have fought it for 50 years already. Encourage them to take the third option by all means, but don’t shame them for taking the first option.

They might already be miserable enough.

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 23 Sep 2023 18:14 next collapse

And the thing is, the product everyone’s got their butts in a bunch over is garbage television. Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, HBO Max, Maytag Plus, there’s nothing good on any of them.

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 18:18 collapse

[very verbose initial response]

Honestly don’t mean this as an insult, but you might want to consider being more concise, so that your point comes across better.

So anyway, people are tired. The fight never ends and some people have fought it for 50 years already. Encourage them to take the third option by all means, but don’t shame them for taking the first option.

I’m not purposely trying to shame people, but I’ll definitely get on their cases if they don’t push back and let this crap continue.

It’s called consumer advocacy, and it shouldn’t be shamed away and not done. Those who are causing the problems in society would benefit the most if this happened.

If we all work together, it’s been proven that it does turn things around.

They might already be miserable enough.

It’s not my fault they’re that way, it’s the fault of the people making society horrible so they can selfishly make more money for themselves, which must be fought against.

The ones making Society horrible definitely win when no one pushes back.

PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 20:34 collapse

Honestly don’t mean this as an insult, but you might want to consider being more concise, so that your point comes across better.

I’m cool with ranting. I enjoy the act of writing, blogs are long dead and it’s important to articulate why so many things in the world are fucking shit.

If we all work together, it’s been proven that it does turn things around

When?

The ones making Society horrible definitely win when no one pushes back.

They also win when people do push back, because thats how the game has been rigged. The extent of the public’s power is making them win slightly less.

The only way to stop companies doing unethical things is strict regulations, ruthlessly enforced. The only times “consumer advocacy” ever works is when the government steps in, which is why the ultra wealthy go to so much effort to ensure they never do.

One good person in politics, with power, is worth a million people boycotting.

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 00:43 collapse

If we all work together, it’s been proven that it does turn things around

When?

Unions.

They also win when people do push back, because thats how the game has been rigged.

Strawman.

The only way to stop companies doing unethical things is strict regulations, ruthlessly enforced.

Its the most important way, but not the only way.

One good person in politics, with power, is worth a million people boycotting.

Definately agree with this. But its not a zero sum gain, an either/or. Both can happen, and increase the odds of success.

Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 01:43 next collapse

There’s been a lot of discussion recently about how companies have been making shitty decisions, which prompt people to move to the open-source alternatives, like what happened with Reddit, Twitter and Unity etc. However, is there a viable alternative for film-related media, beyond simply piracy?

While Lemmy, Godot etc obviously have many costs, primarily servers and development, they don’t have to deal with licensing in the same way to get content. Is there an existing alternative, or do you see a way for there to ever be an existing alternative without some rich company already backing it?

player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Sep 2023 02:02 next collapse

Yes, it’s /c/piracy! Using torrents. Open source, community ran, providing free and equal access to information for all.

Or Usenet which is direct network access to enormous private digital media libraries to download to your own computer.

http://www.slsknet.org/

https://www.eweka.nl/

CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world on 23 Sep 2023 02:04 collapse

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 03:41 collapse

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this:

Dear bot,

Please let your masters know that they need a more intuitive way, of doing what you’ve described.

Otherwise you’re going to be very busy and polluting many conversations with your repeated instructions.

Thanks,

A human user of your wonderful service

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 23 Sep 2023 18:17 collapse

I buy used DVDs off eBay, sometimes from pawn shops or thrift stores.

ArdMacha@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 01:58 next collapse

I pay for Prime for the next day postage, prime video is just an extra i occasionally use. I’ll just pirate their stuff in future and ignore their clunky TV app

cyberpunk007@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 07:39 next collapse

Seriously what is with amazon hardware and apps? They are all garbage, lack support, janky in every sense.

PhreakyByNature@feddit.uk on 24 Sep 2023 02:13 collapse

Their Fire TV stick one was decent before but has become meh

stephenc@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 02:16 next collapse

Dear every single streaming service:

MAKE. THE. AD. TIER. FREE. FOR. EVERYONE. STUFF ALL THE ADS IN YOU WANT.

MAKE. THE. AD-FREE. TIER. PAID.

This way people can watch everything without having an elitist “I’M PAYING FOR ENTERTAINMENT” section of the world who are the only ones that can talk about all these new shows unless they sail the high seas with an eye patch on, which is yet another argument for MAKE THE AD TIER FREE FOR EVERYONE.

wagoner@infosec.pub on 23 Sep 2023 04:16 next collapse

I agree but … why would they do that when the vast majority currently paying will keep paying and live with the ads. Those that won’t will either cancel (based on the Netflix account sharing experience, this will be small) or pay the higher fee. There’s no way they let people watch for free.

stephenc@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 05:02 collapse

Because it’s the right thing to do and those greedy shits make a fortune off of ads and don’t need our money and okay I know, I know, MORE MONEY. Greedy shits. I mean… wouldn’t the ads be more valuable if they knew more people were watching? Or something?

Look, I’m just trying to get us all free Disney+ here, okay? Help me out here. :)

cyberpunk007@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 07:38 collapse

STUFF ALL THE ADS IN YOU WANT.

It all “ads” up. Right?

I’ll see myself out…

elrik@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 02:23 next collapse

I’m surprised this didn’t happen sooner.

A year of prime costs about the same, or less, than every other ad free streaming service and prime video is only one of its benefits.

o1o12o21@lemmy.ml on 23 Sep 2023 02:33 next collapse

Disney hotstar and other OTTs are going to follow the suite, IG. Fuck them all.

art@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 03:02 next collapse

If you want a free version with ads they have Freevee. I mean, they don’t have the same shows but it’s free.

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 03:34 next collapse

I am not paying to watch commercials. Fuck that.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 07:36 collapse

I think most of us pay for the shipping, the video is just a bonus. That said, their exclusives aren’t that great and they just end up in medusa.

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 18:28 collapse

I think most of us pay for the shipping, the video is just a bonus.

You’re not wrong, but the point though is to not reward them for bad behavior.

It’s a death by “1,000 cuts” if you do.

Smokeless7048@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 03:35 next collapse

and that will be when i unsubscribe.

need to finish off my backlog of shows there, or sail the seas!

possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip on 23 Sep 2023 03:44 next collapse

This is one of the reasons I say no to DRM

EqMinMax@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 03:45 next collapse

Time to telegram.

cyberpunk007@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 07:40 collapse

Where do I find this stuff on telegram?

EqMinMax@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 16:53 collapse

There are some telegram bots and channels. But those can’t be shared here because of piracy reasons. Try searching in search engines, you may get few.

OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 06:28 next collapse

I’m baffled by the unrealistic demand for constant infinite growth from corporate shareholders and management. Those days are numbered.

nonailsleft@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 10:38 next collapse

Tell me you just woke up from a 50 year coma without telling me you just woke up from a 50 year coma

Aceticon@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 16:03 next collapse

It’s basically one massive Tragedy Of The Commons (if one is being nice, Ponzi Scheme if one is not being nice) were “somebody else” is supposed to pay people good salaries and “somebody else” is supposed to pay the taxes that support the whole damn structure in which these people are getting rich and get to keep their riches and “somebody else” is supposed to “buy my shares” at a higher price.

Everybody expects “somebody else” to take on the costs of keeping the system going all the while cashing in on all the things only possible thanks to that very same system they contribute into the minimum they can get away with.

It makes all sense for a single economic actor to act in a purelly extractive way when all others have a more balanced economic posture, but the problem is that over the last 4 decades ever more of the economic activity has passed into the hands of such people and now most of it is done like that (which is why “rent seeking” is so common) and the rest of the economic actors (the ones who produce rather than extract) can’t keep up anymore, hence why we’ve reached a point were the broadening of both financial empoverishment and fall in quality of life - i.e. the things that can be purchased with the dwindling money most people earn are themselves getting worse) has become very visible and even painful for many.

TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com on 23 Sep 2023 16:36 collapse

Indeed, but no one knows what that number is. Corporations are currently of the mindset of “that will happen in the distant future, so we can keep going.” Of course, eventually, that distant future will become the present and things will collapse, but they’ll keep saying it’s in the future until then.

Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works on 23 Sep 2023 08:22 next collapse

Maybe it’s time to cancel Amazon prime. I don’t feel like they even met their commitments any longer for delivery… So what’s it all for?

TheHighRoad@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 20:48 next collapse

Good point. Amazon is definitely trying to make COVID issues the new normal.

letsgocrazy@lemm.ee on 24 Sep 2023 01:03 collapse

I still always try and make above 25£ or whatever the minium delivery amount is, despite a decade and a half of Prime.

So I don’t know what I’m getting for it either.

The one thing in life I cannot abide are adverts and I will not tolerate them.

michael@leuker.me on 23 Sep 2023 09:00 next collapse

Cancelled Prime a couple of years ago so that Amazon wasn’t the default for ordering things anymore and wouldn’t watch anything even via the free 30-day trial that they offer from time to time if commercials are shown. I’m still subscribed to Netflix as the family uses it extensively, but if something is not on there, Kodi has proven to be a good matey.

AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 09:01 next collapse

Seems like a lot of companies are testing how much they can get away with lately.

geolaw@lemmygrad.ml on 23 Sep 2023 10:42 next collapse

Actual management strategy is “you don’t know what your boundaries are until you push against them”

CosmicCleric@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 18:37 collapse

Actual management strategy is “you don’t know what your boundaries are until you push against them”

This is why it’s so important not to get tired and quit, but instead to always push back.

CitizenKong@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 10:45 next collapse

This happens when you have to grow endlessly and hit a ceiling (in this case, number of users). Then you have to squeeze those users further so the numbers go up again. Of course you are killing the product in the long run because more and more users cancel but that’s not a big deal to the people making the decisions. (Well, the people doing actual work might object but nobody cares about them.) The shareholders that got obscenely rich will just leech onto the next big thing and the CEOs sail to their next product to ruin with a huge golden parachute. Rinse and repeat. Meanwhile, civilisation crumbles and decays, before it burns in the sadly inevitable climate catastrophe.

letsgocrazy@lemm.ee on 24 Sep 2023 00:56 next collapse

But Amazon crumbling isn’t civilisation crumbling… In fact, it opens doors for more small business owners.

Borkingheck@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 06:56 collapse

You are incorrect though. Netflix and Uber (or any ride sharing app) have shown once people are hooked they will pay the increased rate to consume the product.

Asuracharya@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 10:59 next collapse

Yes and people are paying unfortunately Netflix succeeded and now everyone is trying ads 😔

BigT54@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 12:27 collapse

So I’m really confused about the whole Netflix thing. It hasn’t asked me to set a household location and the whole no password sharing thing was supposed to have taken effect back in May, right? Since May, my family has continued to use Netflix as if nothing has changed and we said if they try to charge us extra, we will cancel. Our Netflix is regularly used at 4 different “households” and they have yet to charge a fee and have not automatically set a household like they claimed they would.

Asuracharya@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 12:41 collapse

I was talking about advertisement in Netflix

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 13:02 collapse

Call it what is is: GREEDFLATION.

ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 22:01 collapse

Or maybe capitalism?

Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi on 24 Sep 2023 00:53 collapse

Nah, at this point anything subscription related is technofeudalism

Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 10:03 next collapse

Only ever had the 30 day trial. Pirate people. Pirate. Yaps.cc is a new one to try.

Exec@pawb.social on 23 Sep 2023 13:33 next collapse

How do I pirate people?

TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.com on 23 Sep 2023 16:31 next collapse

Pirating people is generally considered immoral.

koolkiwi@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 17:19 collapse

You wouldn’t download a person.

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 23 Sep 2023 18:07 collapse

No but people are weirdly okay with making them from scratch.

Kanda@reddthat.com on 23 Sep 2023 20:54 collapse

The making was okay, but now there’s a small dude living in our home. He keeps us up at night, too!

koolkiwi@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 21:15 collapse

Same here. And she smells really foul on occasion! Maybe some uncured resin?

letsgocrazy@lemm.ee on 24 Sep 2023 01:01 collapse

You can’t go wrong with a VPN (PIA, Cyber ghost, Atlas), and just use QTorrent (open source torrent Software) and look up what you like on Pirate Bay.

Easiest basic option.

You can use a website like Showrss to get an RSS feed of all your favorite TV shows, and have them ready to download with Q Torrent.

For most people this would be sufficient.

If you want to an be clever and set up up your torrent Software so that it never staffs without your VPN.

figaro@lemdro.id on 23 Sep 2023 17:11 collapse

Is yaps better than 1377x?

PhreakyByNature@feddit.uk on 24 Sep 2023 02:12 collapse

Asking the important questions.

UnD3Rgr0uNDCL0wN@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 10:25 next collapse

Used to have prime. Never got the same day delivery they promised. Box was always smashed to fuck (the normal delivery was often quicker and less damaged). Used it for the movies and a couple of shows. 11 quid a month was already a lot, if you’re going to add more on to take features off the normal tier then they can go and fuck themselves. Will never buy it again, they make enough money and dont pay their taxes.

Four_lights77@lemm.ee on 23 Sep 2023 12:40 next collapse

The pendulum is swinging back towards the monopoly model that destroyed cable. Time to dust off the old Jolly Roger and teach streaming an old lesson of what happens when you price gouge people.

nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca on 23 Sep 2023 13:18 next collapse

People were obviously pissed off at cable’s fragmented model, but what killed it was the existence of video on demand services over the internet. The fact that at a certain point Netflix had everything certainly helped in adoption, but the biggest factor was not having to view at a specific time.

There is no such killer improvement on the horizon. All there is is the fragmented streaming market, or piracy.

foggy@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 15:44 next collapse

Those on demand services arose to plug the hole of piracy.

FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 01:40 collapse

Yarr, the killer improvement was here all along!

foggy@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 15:44 collapse

I keep saying, we already fought this war, we already won.

Fuck around and find out 🏴‍☠️

_number8_@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 12:43 next collapse

how are you just allowed to drastically lower the quality of a subscription like this. yeah i’m selling my new streaming service, it has 7 channels, $1 a month. no actually sorry it’s $7, 3 channels, and 2 of those channels just run ads on a loop. thanks for keeping autorenew on.

CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 12:53 next collapse

What is ironic about this is that Bezos could probably make all of their video streaming free and have no ads and still be making gobs of money. Their AWS ecosystem is practically a license to print money. Oh and that little store he runs on the side, too…

CileTheSane@lemmy.ca on 24 Sep 2023 02:15 collapse

But it’s not enough to make a lot of money, you have to make ALL the money.

Iamnoonenowhere@lemmynsfw.com on 23 Sep 2023 13:02 next collapse

I had been considering cancelling my Amazon subscription. I don’t know what I’m really paying for, just for expedited shipping? I don’t even use Amazon prime videos since it’s mostly garbage. Thanks to Amazon for making my decision easy to cancel.

PhreakyByNature@feddit.uk on 24 Sep 2023 02:11 next collapse

In the UK it was where they showed Mr Robot and a few other things on streaming services and channels not usually available here. It introduced me to Halt and Catch Fire and other good stuff. YMMV depending on location of course.

Krauerking@lemy.lol on 24 Sep 2023 05:43 collapse

I actually realized I almost never take advantage of real prime perks anymore and the cost was ridiculous. Nearly $200 a year and all for maybe faster shipping?

I can get most the things on eBay or wherever anyways and it’s the same Chinese crap. Or free shipping anyway from Amazon.

Local is even better and maybe I can actually try shit on and not buy literal garbage. It’s hardly worth it.

Meeshall65@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 13:36 next collapse

That s my cue for cancelling i guess

Reken@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 17:38 next collapse

These streaming companies are giving people more of a reason to use Jellyfin every day

johnnycashsguitar@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 18:04 collapse

What’s jellyfin?

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 23 Sep 2023 18:06 collapse

One of several systems for self-hosting video files. I’ve lost track if Jellyfin is a fork of Plex or what. I personally use Kodi.

Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.de on 23 Sep 2023 19:53 next collapse

I’m using Kodi + Real Debrid for over a year now. Works really great but I have to admit that it’s a bit tedious to setup if you want an experience similar to Netflix for example.

SaladevX@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Sep 2023 01:48 collapse

Have you tried Stremio + Real Debrid? It’s a game changer.

KredeSeraf@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 01:51 next collapse

I use Emby and have had no issues.

Emerald@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 04:04 collapse

I’ve lost track if Jellyfin is a fork of Plex or what

Jellyfin is a fork of Emby. Plex is proprietary software.

The Jellyfin project was started in early December 2018 primarily as a result of Emby’s decision to take their next release (4.x) closed-source.

jellyfin.org/docs/general/about

viralJ@lemmy.world on 23 Sep 2023 22:08 next collapse

They should also make people watch add bofore they are handed their Amazon Prime order. Unless they pay for the higher tier subscription.

Anyway, good to know that Amazon is finally doing something to fix its fledgling revenue from Prime.

CileTheSane@lemmy.ca on 24 Sep 2023 01:52 next collapse

This is why I refused to ever buy cable: I am not going to pay for a service that forces ads on me. One or the other fuckers.

Adalast@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 2023 03:34 next collapse

Yohoho my dudes and dudettes and dudex. And a bottle of rum.

populustree@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 24 Sep 2023 07:15 collapse

yarg harg fiddilidee, bitches, bros and enby hoes

viking@infosec.pub on 24 Sep 2023 05:52 next collapse

Just cancelled my prime membership. The movie offer was rather boring tbh, and I get more interesting series elsewhere.

Katya@discuss.tchncs.de on 16 Oct 2023 04:16 next collapse

The combination of all these streaming services won’t be cheap. I’ve just used a video downloader to optimise my subscription before I cancel my prime. (As long as I don’t share it with others.)

Leila@discuss.tchncs.de on 03 Nov 2023 11:15 next collapse

I think a downloader will be neccessaire, it will cost too much money if we bought them all.

[deleted] on 24 Nov 2023 08:06 next collapse

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BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com on 24 Nov 2023 22:08 collapse

No problem using a premium IPTV service now and everything fine AF ✌️👍