JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
on 21 Mar 2024 09:40
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Well yeah. If I was blocked off from communication with everyone, of course I would be anxious. There’s a difference between the security in having your phone on you, and using it all the time.
MasterHound@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 2024 09:52
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There has to be a happy medium between not isolating your kids while also protecting them from what is a highly corrupting environment. Maybe this is just hindsight, but I look back at my unfiltered internet access as a kid and am pretty pissed off that my parents didn’t get more involved.
Same here. When I got my first smartphone in highschool, I quickly became massively addicted. I would guess that at least half my time was spent on reddit and 4chan for many, many years.
Though I don’t blame my parents… How could they have known?
Tbh I had good filtered access as a kid but was rabid for more and private internet access, so kinda went off the deep end when I got a phone. I’m not sure what my parents could have done
Sorgan71@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 2024 10:46
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Its communication that harms young brains. Kids should never have unrestricted access to the internet.
JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
on 21 Mar 2024 10:55
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That sounds like censorship to me (and thus, a bad thing). Maybe it’s just because I come from a background where my ultra religious parents censored the entire secular world from me as a child, but I am firmly against any form of censorship.
meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Mar 2024 15:40
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Goatse, tubgirl, meatspin, or the BME pain olympics are not exactly hallmarks of quality communication and restricting that type of content is valid for minors. It’s not censorship to try to avoid desensitizing kids too early. Sometimes, people need experience before they can see the horrors.
bassomitron@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 2024 19:06
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I think they were referring to basic information censorship versus letting 10-year-olds/whatever aged minor have unfettered access to the entirety of the internet.
meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works
on 21 Mar 2024 19:40
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Here are the lines from the guy I replied to:
That sounds like censorship to me (and thus, a bad thing)
And…
but I am firmly against any form of censorship.
Allowing any censorship would be a bad thing, according to that poster, so I provided a reason why some censorship may be desired.
Your argument is not on censorship yes or no, but on how far. That’s a different discussion.
bassomitron@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 2024 20:20
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True, guess I interpreted it less literally. Who knows for certain besides OP, I suppose.
Sorgan71@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 2024 16:23
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kids need to have things restricted from them. If a parent believes something is harmful to their kid, then they need to restrict it from them.
ashley@discuss.tchncs.de
on 21 Mar 2024 11:12
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not really. kids need communication, as well as adults: since humans are such social animals. what harms young people more is stuff that decreases attention span, unrealistic body expectations, etc not “communication”
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
on 21 Mar 2024 11:02
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So that thing with all my financial info, that accesses all the places I present myself publicly (ie social media), that is the primary method of people contacting me, that might be my best means of procuring transportation/food/emergency services, that helps me know where to go, that is my calculator/rolodex/calendar, that has all my prescription alarms, etc., that thing? Why would I miss it?
Well , it doesn’t explicitly specify in the article what they mean by “don’t have their phone”, but from context I understand it as “not using it”, or having it put away but still within reach.
The article also seem very directed at social media.
All the things you mentioned, except social media, are on a ‘need’ basis (transportation, bank access, etc) which really doesn’t take an abundance of screen time.
bassomitron@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 2024 19:00
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Well there’s also school, work, messaging friends/family to coordinate events or daily errands/child caretaking/etc or just simply keeping in touch/chatting, reading for news/pleasure, tracking emergency events like inclement weather or other disasters, etc. etc. So there’s plenty of screen time still even when you subtract social media usage, at least for many older kids/young adults, and/or adults.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 2024 17:09
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where’s my dopamine pump? WHERE’S MY DOPAMINE PUMP?!?!
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Well yeah. If I was blocked off from communication with everyone, of course I would be anxious. There’s a difference between the security in having your phone on you, and using it all the time.
There has to be a happy medium between not isolating your kids while also protecting them from what is a highly corrupting environment. Maybe this is just hindsight, but I look back at my unfiltered internet access as a kid and am pretty pissed off that my parents didn’t get more involved.
Same here. When I got my first smartphone in highschool, I quickly became massively addicted. I would guess that at least half my time was spent on reddit and 4chan for many, many years.
Though I don’t blame my parents… How could they have known?
Tbh I had good filtered access as a kid but was rabid for more and private internet access, so kinda went off the deep end when I got a phone. I’m not sure what my parents could have done
Its communication that harms young brains. Kids should never have unrestricted access to the internet.
That sounds like censorship to me (and thus, a bad thing). Maybe it’s just because I come from a background where my ultra religious parents censored the entire secular world from me as a child, but I am firmly against any form of censorship.
Goatse, tubgirl, meatspin, or the BME pain olympics are not exactly hallmarks of quality communication and restricting that type of content is valid for minors. It’s not censorship to try to avoid desensitizing kids too early. Sometimes, people need experience before they can see the horrors.
I think they were referring to basic information censorship versus letting 10-year-olds/whatever aged minor have unfettered access to the entirety of the internet.
Here are the lines from the guy I replied to:
And…
Allowing any censorship would be a bad thing, according to that poster, so I provided a reason why some censorship may be desired.
Your argument is not on censorship yes or no, but on how far. That’s a different discussion.
True, guess I interpreted it less literally. Who knows for certain besides OP, I suppose.
kids need to have things restricted from them. If a parent believes something is harmful to their kid, then they need to restrict it from them.
not really. kids need communication, as well as adults: since humans are such social animals. what harms young people more is stuff that decreases attention span, unrealistic body expectations, etc not “communication”
Withdrawals. Bring back pagers.
I think people are potentially missing your sarcasm. Though I believe your comment on point.
What they’re describing is addiction withdrawal and an inability to interact with reality.
Dennis Duffy?
More like Hilary Duff.
“Screen time”
So that thing with all my financial info, that accesses all the places I present myself publicly (ie social media), that is the primary method of people contacting me, that might be my best means of procuring transportation/food/emergency services, that helps me know where to go, that is my calculator/rolodex/calendar, that has all my prescription alarms, etc., that thing? Why would I miss it?
Well , it doesn’t explicitly specify in the article what they mean by “don’t have their phone”, but from context I understand it as “not using it”, or having it put away but still within reach.
The article also seem very directed at social media. All the things you mentioned, except social media, are on a ‘need’ basis (transportation, bank access, etc) which really doesn’t take an abundance of screen time.
Well there’s also school, work, messaging friends/family to coordinate events or daily errands/child caretaking/etc or just simply keeping in touch/chatting, reading for news/pleasure, tracking emergency events like inclement weather or other disasters, etc. etc. So there’s plenty of screen time still even when you subtract social media usage, at least for many older kids/young adults, and/or adults.
where’s my dopamine pump? WHERE’S MY DOPAMINE PUMP?!?!
Oh god oh god o shit wtf goddamnit
OH! There it is. whew heh. ahhhh. memes. funny.