tempest@lemmy.ca
on 06 Feb 2025 21:09
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I mean of course they did. A public company can not be trusted to leave money on the table. The only thing that might slow them down is the bad press that might erode good will. In this climate though they were always going to strap Gemini to a machine gun.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 21:37
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Not only can they not be trusted to leave money on the table, but they can actively be trusted not to.
merc@sh.itjust.works
on 06 Feb 2025 21:21
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Worth noting that when Google was founded, Microsoft was in the middle of a long antitrust investigation, which was documenting every illegal thing they had done to maintain their monopoly and hurt every company that challenged it.
The “evil” in the Don’t Be Evil motto was widely seen as a reference to that company and that behaviour. From early on, Google saw Microsoft as a threat. They ran Linux servers, and tried to make sure as few employees as possible were running Microsoft on their desktops and laptops. A lot of internal tools were developed to try to avoid any kind of dependency on Microsoft, including ones that eventually became available externally like Google Docs etc.
Now, 25ish years later, it’s Google who are being investigated for leveraging their monopoly in a way that hurts consumers. IMO, they still never stooped as low as Microsoft did. Google paid Apple and Mozilla billions to be the default search engine. Microsoft used lawsuits and patents to try to drive their competition out of business. But, it’s still a monopoly that harms the world.
Anyhow, I’m glad that Google originally had the “Don’t be evil” motto, and also had this bit about AI principles that avoid the risk of harm. They act like useful warrant canaries because when they’re removed you know something’s up.
very_well_lost@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 21:23
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Do no harm (to quarterly earnings)
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 21:27
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Same reason suckerberg went full elon. It’s the gold rush of corporate greed with a conman at the helm
dephyre@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 21:49
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Don’t be evil
Do the right thing
Do no harm
Line must go up
Stovetop@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 21:59
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Don’t be evil (to the shareholders)
Do the right thing (for our stock value)
Do no harm (to our profit margins)
…
Line must go up (before it comes down) ((wishful thinking))
Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 23:54
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Do all the harm
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
on 07 Feb 2025 01:13
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Do harm others before others harm you
lolrightythen@lemmy.world
on 07 Feb 2025 01:59
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Make everyone but “us” poor, so they can’t afford to resist. Just start with marginalized populations (bc that is who america truly is deep down).
Divide and conquer
griff@lemmings.world
on 06 Feb 2025 22:33
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could Goog-l possibly change their motto to ‘Do no smarm’ then?
MyOpinion@lemm.ee
on 06 Feb 2025 22:49
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Doing evil and harm is one of their strengths.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world
on 06 Feb 2025 23:49
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“Well, you have to let us do a little harm.” ¯_(ツ)_/¯
samus12345@lemm.ee
on 06 Feb 2025 23:58
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Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me
on 07 Feb 2025 00:11
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A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision.
IBM, in 1979.
This is wide open to send a nuke on allies and blame the AI.
schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
on 07 Feb 2025 01:05
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send a nuke
Hey I’ve seen that movie.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world
on 07 Feb 2025 00:22
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Well, Gemini 2.0 is bad. Flash seems to have regressed to be worse than my local 32Bs, and pro fails some prompts 1.5 gets.
Maybe they are trying to compensate?
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
on 07 Feb 2025 02:22
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Glad I abandoned Google 7 years ago when they made it obvious what they were really all about. I do miss my customized Android phones but it’ll be a frozen day in hell before I give them another cent.
IMALlama@lemmy.world
on 07 Feb 2025 04:15
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Genuine question: do they make money from AOSP being used on third party devices? Obviously they get revenue via the Play store, but you can avoid that by either installing something like graphine or an alternative store (Fdroid, Amazon, etc).
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
on 07 Feb 2025 04:27
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My understanding is there’s a licensing fee for another company to say they have an ‘android’ phone.
That part doesn’t matter to me. I ran de-Googled custom ROMs on my phones for many years, including cyanogenmod and later Lineage, only to find out they were tracking all of us against our will (and device settings) all along. That was the last straw for me.
random_character_a@lemmy.world
on 07 Feb 2025 10:23
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I mean of course they did. A public company can not be trusted to leave money on the table. The only thing that might slow them down is the bad press that might erode good will. In this climate though they were always going to strap Gemini to a machine gun.
Not only can they not be trusted to leave money on the table, but they can actively be trusted not to.
Worth noting that when Google was founded, Microsoft was in the middle of a long antitrust investigation, which was documenting every illegal thing they had done to maintain their monopoly and hurt every company that challenged it.
The “evil” in the Don’t Be Evil motto was widely seen as a reference to that company and that behaviour. From early on, Google saw Microsoft as a threat. They ran Linux servers, and tried to make sure as few employees as possible were running Microsoft on their desktops and laptops. A lot of internal tools were developed to try to avoid any kind of dependency on Microsoft, including ones that eventually became available externally like Google Docs etc.
Now, 25ish years later, it’s Google who are being investigated for leveraging their monopoly in a way that hurts consumers. IMO, they still never stooped as low as Microsoft did. Google paid Apple and Mozilla billions to be the default search engine. Microsoft used lawsuits and patents to try to drive their competition out of business. But, it’s still a monopoly that harms the world.
Anyhow, I’m glad that Google originally had the “Don’t be evil” motto, and also had this bit about AI principles that avoid the risk of harm. They act like useful warrant canaries because when they’re removed you know something’s up.
Do no harm (to quarterly earnings)
Same reason suckerberg went full elon. It’s the gold rush of corporate greed with a conman at the helm
Don’t be evilDo the right thingDo no harmLine must go up
Don’t be evil (to the shareholders)
Do the right thing (for our stock value)
Do no harm (to our profit margins)
…
Line must go up (before it comes down) ((wishful thinking))
Do all the harm
Do harm others before others harm you
Make everyone but “us” poor, so they can’t afford to resist. Just start with marginalized populations (bc that is who america truly is deep down).
Divide and conquer
could Goog-l possibly change their motto to ‘Do no smarm’ then?
Doing evil and harm is one of their strengths.
“Well, you have to let us do a little harm.” ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Oh god, they already blew off your arm!
do a little arm
IBM, in 1979.
This is wide open to send a nuke on allies and blame the AI.
Hey I’ve seen that movie.
Well, Gemini 2.0 is bad. Flash seems to have regressed to be worse than my local 32Bs, and pro fails some prompts 1.5 gets.
Maybe they are trying to compensate?
Glad I abandoned Google 7 years ago when they made it obvious what they were really all about. I do miss my customized Android phones but it’ll be a frozen day in hell before I give them another cent.
Genuine question: do they make money from AOSP being used on third party devices? Obviously they get revenue via the Play store, but you can avoid that by either installing something like graphine or an alternative store (Fdroid, Amazon, etc).
My understanding is there’s a licensing fee for another company to say they have an ‘android’ phone.
That part doesn’t matter to me. I ran de-Googled custom ROMs on my phones for many years, including cyanogenmod and later Lineage, only to find out they were tracking all of us against our will (and device settings) all along. That was the last straw for me.
Well nobody saw that coming
/s