Grindr loses nearly half its staff to strict return-to-work rule (www.latimes.com)
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Grindr loses nearly half its staff to strict return-to-work rule::Grindr has lost about 45% of its staff as it enforces a strict return-to-office policy that was introduced after a majority of employees announced a plan to unionize.

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const_void@lemmy.ml on 08 Sep 2023 00:07 next collapse

These return-to-office pushes are moronic. We’ve had three years of remote work without any loss of productivity. Tell us the real reason for the push to be in the office or get the fuck out of my face.

plz1@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 00:10 next collapse

They are veiled layoffs

cerement@slrpnk.net on 08 Sep 2023 00:28 next collapse

union busting

plz1@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 00:45 collapse

That too, for this case at least.

fidodo@lemm.ee on 08 Sep 2023 01:36 collapse

Great way to lose all the best people at your company in a totally uncontrolled manner.

PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works on 08 Sep 2023 00:31 next collapse

They’re giving us bullshit reasons and look how mad people are about it.

The Canadian federal government has been pushing hybrid for about a year now. When it all started they hosted a town hall to answer questions and stuff. One of the directors told a story about how she is happy to go back to the office because she can go to her local Subway and support the business. This erupted into weeks of memes about how we’re being forced to the office just to keep Subway in business.

I can’t imagine the response to them outright saying they are doing this to please big businesses and landlords.

hydrashok@sh.itjust.works on 08 Sep 2023 01:04 next collapse

Corporations get tax breaks from cities based on expected work population and its resulting economic impact on the local economy. Without people in the office, these tax breaks become legally in jeopardy as the city could argue the company hasn’t lived up to its agreement.

And a lot of execs have money in corporate real estate, which, as you can imagine, has lost some value in the last few years.

It’s always about money.

Iwasondigg@lemmy.one on 08 Sep 2023 01:09 next collapse

I’m my limited experience, I’ve noticed a difference between companies that have invested in real estate and those that haven’t. Companies who own their buildings are very strict about pushing for their expensive buildings to not sit empty. Companies who lease office space, and especially of they have flexible terms, seem to be more chill about it. Just a general observation.

PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works on 08 Sep 2023 01:23 next collapse

Except for government, they renew their lease lol.

Aux@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 21:50 collapse

Yeah. Our boss saw a huge savings stream from lack of the office, so WFH for life for everyone.

Cabrio@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 04:11 next collapse

What we’re seeing is large corporations who have contractual obligations surrounding their office spaces, land leases and the buildings they own worried that if everyone goes remote the market for such property dissappears and so does their investment so they are forcing people back into the office to artificially bolster the market for office space while they work to get their money out of the industry and find any bag holders they can to offset future losses, all at the expense of the wellbeing of the working class.

SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 04:53 next collapse

One of the real reasons is that companies put a shitton of money into physical infrastructure and based their entire selling point for jobs on office perks. Amd now they dont know what to do with that stuff sitting empty.

happyhippo@feddit.it on 08 Sep 2023 06:19 collapse

Well the way I see it, allowing me to keep getting my fucjing shit done from HOME is possibly THE biggest perk a company can offer to differentiate itself from the moronic ones who don’t.

gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Sep 2023 06:25 next collapse

Exactly. I think it has to do with the old way of thinking. They might think that working in office is more productive.

Restaldt@lemm.ee on 08 Sep 2023 22:09 collapse

I don’t. I think that is just a convenient excuse.

In a corporate world it is always about the money full stop.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 08:30 collapse

But you’ll miss the pizza party! Lunch hour only.

br3d@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 06:01 next collapse

I know the Lemmy/Reddit hive mentality is all “Let me work at home, there’s zero benefit to being in the office”, but there’s another side. We’ve never had a workforce so disengaged, isolated and feeling no sense of community.

Finnbot@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 06:08 next collapse

Ok - but I don’t go to work for a sense of community? I go to work to earn money to survive. My tasks get done, profits are up overall so why do I need to feel engaged and how does being isolated have any negative effect on that?

br3d@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 06:22 collapse

All I can say is that I manage a team of people and frequently get the following two messages: “I don’t want to come to the office. I feel very isolated working by myself at home - oh my mental health.” What are we supposed to do with this?

gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Sep 2023 06:27 next collapse

All I can say is that I manage a team of people and frequently get the following two messages: “I don’t want to come to the office. I feel very isolated working by myself at home - oh my mental health.” What are we supposed to do with this?

So your team of people work in the office? And they rather work at home? What’s exactly your point?

ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca on 08 Sep 2023 11:56 collapse

What about giving them a choice without mandating either?

Finnbot@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 08:11 next collapse

I’m the opposite. I manage a BAU team and our team are active on slack, and seem to be thriving. We have two webex meetings a week, keep in constant touch and we all love it.

Online communities are more than good enough at the best of times so I don’t see how they can’t work in the professional space.

KevonLooney@lemm.ee on 08 Sep 2023 21:17 collapse

There is LinkedIn if you want a Facebook-like experience. There are 1-on-1 networking sites too, for mentors. Obviously bars or sports after work. Book clubs, parent groups, etc.

If you want company and are looking to your job, that’s like trying to make money off of your friends. Kinda stupid.

captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works on 08 Sep 2023 09:27 collapse

Tell the ones who feel isolated to go to a bar in their off hours or something.

wagoner@infosec.pub on 08 Sep 2023 06:29 collapse

Source?

electrogamerman@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 06:39 next collapse

The real reasons are not benefiting the employee, thats why they dont tell them. These are:

  • Use of gasoline for transportation
  • Use of infrastructure

You can guess where the RTO orders are coming from.

gian@lemmy.grys.it on 08 Sep 2023 06:42 collapse

Tell us the real reason for the push to be in the office or get the fuck out of my face.

A lot of middle managers than need to show that they are usefull and not a bottleneck or useless positions

eee@lemm.ee on 08 Sep 2023 00:11 next collapse

as it enforces a strict return-to-office policy that was introduced after a majority of employees announced a plan to unionize

This was an excuse for them to get rid of the pesky union forming troublemakers. Despicable.

reversebananimals@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 01:20 collapse

RTO is all about voluntary attrition to avoid having to pay severance. This shithead exec literally says the quiet part out loud in the article:

“The team will be smaller than where we were before and where we want to be,” Arison said. “So that’ll obviously impact margin in a positive way in the near term. But I also think that shows that you can have a lot of leverage in this business because you don’t need that big of a team to do the things that we need to do.”

altima_neo@lemmy.zip on 08 Sep 2023 04:01 next collapse

Those guys are getting stiffed

ram@lemmy.ca on 08 Sep 2023 04:11 collapse

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Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 05:06 collapse

One could say they’re gonna Grind to a halt.

I’ll let myself out.

Subverb@lemmy.world on 08 Sep 2023 22:27 collapse

Half their staff or half of their staffs? 🍆🥒