China shares ambitious plans to double its space station as the ISS approaches the end of its life cycle (interestingengineering.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2023 10:00
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China shares ambitious plans to double its space station as the ISS approaches the end of its life cycle::undefined

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raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2023 10:39 next collapse

Sadly enough, the international community is really good at infighting and wasting money, and really bad at coming up with a followup for the ISS :( So China, for all its flaws, will have the biggest functioning space station in LEO at some point. ISS operations have just been extended to 2034, but if we get a single micrometeorite hit in the wrong spot (e.g. Node 2), that’ll put an end to it.

SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Oct 2023 16:41 collapse

I wish the world was better at just giving a ton of money to science and space. It’s such an obvious use of money, if you ask me.

Especially since the future of humanity, given that we survive, is in space. There is a lot of potential for space-based infrastructure.

SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2023 19:36 collapse

Too many people think that when we spend money on space, that we are literally sending the money into orbit. Almost all of it is going back into the economy and keeping tons of businesses alive.

antidote101@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2023 11:01 next collapse

A certain attempt at symbolism there.

fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee on 08 Oct 2023 11:54 next collapse

China shouldn’t be allowed any expansion until they reach themselves of their current hideous government.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 08 Oct 2023 12:23 next collapse

USA shouldn’t be allowed any expansion until they reach [sic] themselves of their current hideous government.

fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee on 08 Oct 2023 20:25 collapse

At least the US has a still vaguely functional democratic process.

Drbreen@sh.itjust.works on 08 Oct 2023 22:01 next collapse

You mean barely functional?

fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee on 09 Oct 2023 09:16 collapse

Barely functional is still better than utterly unimaginable.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 09 Oct 2023 09:51 collapse

“The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.” - Julius Nyerere

fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee on 09 Oct 2023 10:37 collapse

A wonderful quote.

TheYear2525@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2023 13:10 next collapse

I’ll bite. What enforcement mechanism would you suggest?

fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee on 08 Oct 2023 20:24 collapse

No idea. It was hyperbole.

ijeff@lemdro.id on 08 Oct 2023 13:13 collapse

Allowed? Space pollution aside, nobody should be trying to restrict access to space.

OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee on 08 Oct 2023 13:35 next collapse

I don’t really understand how the entire ISS could be “end of life cycle.” Aren’t there a bunch of different modules of different ages? And anyway, the oldest modules are 24 years old that is nothing with proper maintenance, there are 50 year old trains still in operation daily.

Beardsley@lemmy.world on 08 Oct 2023 13:45 next collapse

Space trains fall under a different regulating authority than space stations, unfortunately.

SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Oct 2023 16:37 next collapse

If a train fails, at worst that will happen is it will stop. When a space station fails, the worst that will happen is everyone inside dies.

In addition, a space station is far more expensive, and it may be simply too expensive to still maintain old technology. Ideally, at some point, one will replace it with a newer, more modern, space station. Which will both be cheaper, and allow more, novel, science to be done. Although I don’t know if there is any plan for that.

I’d like to see a space station with a rotating ring, that generates artificial gravity through centrifugal acceleration.

TotalTrash@lemmynsfw.com on 08 Oct 2023 16:57 collapse

Lol that’s nowhere near the worst scenario for a train failure.

0x0@programming.dev on 09 Oct 2023 12:59 collapse

I don’t know why can’t they just send it to a Lagrange point and leave it there. Burning it seems like literally burning money.

MrSpArkle@lemmy.ca on 08 Oct 2023 16:37 collapse

Space races are good for science. As long as spacex engineers keep Elon at bay, Starship should be able to launch stage biggest station modules in history.