Firefox 140 Brings Tab Unload, Custom Search & New ESR (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)
from tonytins@pawb.social to technology@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 02:11
https://pawb.social/post/26921522

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db2@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 02:29 next collapse

Original ESR is best ESR

edit: apparently only in regards to software development. Why can’t we have people who aren’t batshit somehow? 🙄

victorz@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 06:13 next collapse

❤️

KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net on 24 Jun 08:28 collapse

Not so sure about that… Seems pretty racist, homophobic, and sexist.

db2@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 11:58 collapse

I didn’t even read that part before, edited to reflect it.

MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip on 24 Jun 02:42 next collapse

Why is Firefox 4 or 3 versions ahead of Chromium versions (Edge, Chrome)?

candyman337@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 02:45 next collapse

Because it’s a completely separate codebase that is not chrome based

henfredemars@infosec.pub on 24 Jun 03:35 next collapse

Not everything is Chrome just yet. We still have Gecko and Webkit holding on.

squaresinger@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 05:45 next collapse

Why is Chrome 121 versions ahead of Android?

towerful@programming.dev on 24 Jun 09:01 collapse

Windows 11 and OSX are so outdated

graff@lemm.ee on 24 Jun 09:23 collapse

Os 10 26 is coming later this year. Make it make sense

mannycalavera@feddit.uk on 24 Jun 06:56 next collapse

Why are the buses different colours?

audaxdreik@pawb.social on 24 Jun 07:17 next collapse

All the downvotes here kinda got me legit angry. Incurious fools and jokers.

It’s not a complete answer, but it’s partially because the development of Chrome and Firefox have always been highly competitive resulting in them both adopting rapid release cycles around the same time in the early 2010’s.

I haven’t read too much into the topic, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this was as much a marketing decision as well as a developer one. Similar to how Microsoft didn’t want to release an XBox 2 in competition with a PlayStation 3.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox_version_history en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Development

These are just the Wikipedia links, but there is interesting discussion of development history to be had, here.

squaresinger@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 10:26 next collapse

I haven’t read too much into the topic, but I wouldn’t be surprised if this was as much a marketing decision as well as a developer one.

Version numbering has no implications on development. Firefox released just as frequently before, just that they didn’t increase the major version that often.

audaxdreik@pawb.social on 24 Jun 15:31 collapse

Version numbering has no implications on development.

I understand that, so then why change it?

Firefox released just as frequently before, just that they didn’t increase the major version that often.

This does not appear to be true.

That blog post has an aura of marketing speak around it.

Version numbering has no implication on development and doesn’t even need to align internally and publicly, so somewhere a conscious decision was made to do it this way for “reasons”. I conjecture those reasons are at least partially due to marketing. Is this not fair?

EON_GuG@lemm.ee on 24 Jun 21:18 collapse

Well, normally, when people see a larger version of a software, they think it’s more secure, modern, better, and other things.

For example, not all Chromium projects follow version nomenclatures. Vivaldi, Opera, and Brave all use their own version nomenclatures.

Bo7a@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 11:45 collapse

Incurious fools

I haven’t read too much into the topic

sigh…

audaxdreik@pawb.social on 24 Jun 15:24 collapse

That’s my disclaimer that my research on the topic was less than exhaustive when I posted it at midnight, smartasscool guy. I then when on to offer a legitimate, if simple answer with sources that I linked. I see now the error of my ways in trying to provider a sincere answer to a question instead of posting the same tired dunk as everyone else.

I have learned the error of my ways and will carry this lesson with me into the future as we build this Lemmy community.

Bo7a@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 16:18 collapse

smartass

I can sit on ice cream and tell you the flavour.

Sincerely though - I was just being an ass. I didn’t intend any actual offense. I Apologize. And I am not one of those downvotes.

audaxdreik@pawb.social on 24 Jun 16:36 collapse

No worries! I did bring a bit of heat in my response and for that I accept the downvotes.

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It does just make me a little angry to see someone post a question out of genuine curiosity where there is a real answer to be researched and discussed and met with a string of tired dunks. That’s some serious Reddit behavior right there (diss, intended for other posters).

raltoid@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 07:32 next collapse

Literally the same reason why Ford sells 150s and 250s and Volvo sells 70s and 90s: They are different products and don’t base the version numbers on their competitor.

[deleted] on 24 Jun 07:55 next collapse

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3abas@lemm.ee on 24 Jun 09:47 next collapse

Actually, Firefox version numbers were totally independent for most of their history, but Mozilla recently adjusted them to roughly align with Chromium versions to reduce confusion for developers.

2004 - Firefox 1.0, no Chrome yet 2010 - Firefox 4.0, Chrome around version 8 2011 - Firefox switches to rapid releases 2020 - Firefox and Chrome both around version 85, just by coincidence 2024 - Firefox jumps from 124 to 126 to align with Chrome 126 2025 - Firefox 126+, Chrome 126+, version numbers now track similarly

lemming741@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 12:27 collapse

Probably more like AMD naming processors XP, moving to 3 digits to match Intel, and stuffing AI into the model name.

Hell, even the Linux kernel is not immune

lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/…/01843.html

bvoigtlaender@feddit.org on 24 Jun 13:11 next collapse

Why is Sony 1000XM1 versions ahead of Apple?

Ultraviolet@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 22:46 collapse

Competitors tend to do that. Originally Firefox used traditional version numbering up until 3.0, but then when Chrome came out with their numbering scheme of incrementing the main version number with every minor update, Firefox followed suit. It’s the same reason Microsoft called the Xbox successor the Xbox 360, if the average consumer would see the Xbox 2 next to the PS3, they’d at least subconsciously think the PS3 was more advanced.

masterofn001@lemmy.ca on 24 Jun 02:52 next collapse

I’ve had the unload flag enabled in about: config for months.

Haven’t used the update yet but there are several related flags to change the appearance and behavior of unloaded tabs in there as well.

Tab groups are another thing I was using for a while, they still hide some flags to enable some options. Again, there are some neat flags associated with this in about: config.

There are also some hidden peefs for backing up your data that would be cool if they pushed them.

Sometimes it fewls lkke I probably spend more time tweaking flags than I do using the browser.

I use the release version, not nightly or developer. But you can usually find some future features in there. Some good, some not. YMMV.

As always - Use caution.

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 24 Jun 07:24 collapse

how do i even find cool flags to flip and break my browser?

JustARaccoon@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 11:02 collapse

Go to about:config

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 24 Jun 11:26 collapse

just boring flags that do nothing everywhere.

i know the cool ones are somewhere over there though.

bvoigtlaender@feddit.org on 24 Jun 13:08 collapse

I believe browser.profiles.enabled is a cool one you can enable now which isn’t on by default (But will be eventually)

umbrella@lemmy.ml on 24 Jun 17:51 collapse

hah ill be trying it out!

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 24 Jun 09:07 next collapse

Does this mean i can remove the Auto Tab Discard addon?

cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone on 24 Jun 10:48 collapse

auto tab discard would still have more features though. the built in one is probably more simplified.

[deleted] on 24 Jun 10:46 next collapse

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mle86@feddit.org on 24 Jun 12:39 collapse

This update makes it much easier to add custom search engines in Firefox. You can now right-click in a search field on a supported website and select “Add Search Engine” to add it. You can edit the name and assign a keyboard.

Am I misremembering things, didn’t this feature exist already in the past?

ouch@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 12:48 next collapse

Maybe the old feature was keyword bookmarks, not sure.

mle86@feddit.org on 24 Jun 14:18 collapse

Yeah it definitely was keyword bookmarks, but there was an option to “add a keyword for this search” or something along those lines

bvoigtlaender@feddit.org on 24 Jun 13:06 next collapse

Sort of. I believe search engine providers actually have to create an extension to be listed in the setting.

mle86@feddit.org on 24 Jun 14:20 collapse

No I distinctly remember being able to right click and add a keyword and bookmark for search field on random website forms, even internal ones on company intranet sites and such

Gemini24601@lemmy.world on 24 Jun 18:15 collapse

Yes I’m pretty sure that this has been an option. For example when I go to imdb.com and right click on the tab, it prompts me to “add imdb” for search. Many such cases on many different websites. Maybe they changed the term or function.