$300 Vision Pro developer strap is just an expensive USB2 device (appleinsider.com)
from L4s@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 2024 20:00
https://lemmy.world/post/11685265

$300 Vision Pro developer strap is just an expensive USB2 device::Apple is selling developers a $300 USB-C dongle to connect the Apple Vision Pro to a Mac, but in this incarnation, it turns out to be no faster than Wi-Fi.

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AGD4@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 2024 20:31 next collapse

Aren’t they really paying for a dev license and support? Can they develop for the apple vision without the device?

edit

Nevermind. The article suggests the strap is a development “accelerator”. :/

vexikron@lemmy.zip on 07 Feb 2024 21:00 collapse

Yep thats right, you can totally do photoshopping or coding or work on spreadsheets with this device, it totally isnt an extremely overpriced demo of what could maybe someday kind of almost make sense for anything beyond extremely casual computer usage.

SinningStromgald@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 2024 21:18 next collapse

$300 for a strap from Apple? That’s cheap compared to the $999 wheels. People are gonna gobble those up lickety split.

SulaymanF@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 07:49 collapse

You’re not the target for either; they’re meant to milk business customers who don’t care about price.

SinningStromgald@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 17:51 collapse

I am fully aware my sad, poor, sorry ass is not the target market for pretty much any Apple product.

Toes@ani.social on 07 Feb 2024 21:41 next collapse

So when should I expect the collaboration between Elon and apple? so I can get an eye phone like Futurama.

bruhduh@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 01:22 collapse

Sooner than we think, which is scary, imagine suddenly catching cyberpsychosis because you didn’t paid your monthly kiroshi optics subscription fee and constant ads even if you paid

Toes@ani.social on 08 Feb 2024 02:21 next collapse

Ransomware on your life

VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 00:55 collapse

Yes my choom, these gonkbrains are gonna get fried.

thehatfox@lemmy.world on 07 Feb 2024 21:49 next collapse

So a supposedly cutting edge $3500 device plus an additional $300 dongle gets a wired connection speed from the year 2000. USB 2 is 24 years old

Welcome to the future folks.

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 07 Feb 2024 21:59 next collapse

Nah but it’s white and designed very sleek so it must be worth it

fah_Q@lemmy.ca on 07 Feb 2024 22:57 next collapse

I’d pay double that for an apple Istrap-on™!

TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz on 08 Feb 2024 00:23 next collapse

Now with direct connection to all of your favourite apps!

badaboomxx@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 03:47 next collapse

You mean the bill?

VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 00:53 collapse

Vision Cum Pro

SomeGuy69@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 09:51 collapse

I knew, that’s why I bought so many apple stocks.

realitista@lemm.ee on 08 Feb 2024 00:56 next collapse

It’s hilarious how Apple still insists on making all their mobile devices USB 2. Have they not cracked the code for USB 3 after 11 years?

bruhduh@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 01:17 next collapse

USB 4 was designed 4 years ago ( en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4 ) and they still using usb 2? TIL

smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de on 08 Feb 2024 02:05 collapse

USB 2, 3 and 4 are not direct new versions depracating previous ones. Those are tiers, versions are reprecented after the point, like 3.1 is directly better than 3.0 .

USB 2 is not something that shouldn’t be used because USB 3 exists. It is just simpler, just four pins, two for power and two for data, meanwhile USB 4 requires much more complex stuff. Just like new Intel i7 processor does not invalidate new Intel i3.

Still on a high-end phone 2.0 is bad, like putting i3 on high-end laptop.

bruhduh@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 02:38 next collapse

What is bad, that is asking such prices for USB 2, that’s what I’ve meant, it’s like selling another 8gb of ram to upgrade to 16gb total for 500$

Chronographs@lemmy.zip on 08 Feb 2024 17:03 collapse

The pro models aren’t usb 2, just the normal models, as those are using the same processor as last gen. The usb controller is in the processor and last gen they were using lightning (which was usb 2.0).

bamboo@lemm.ee on 08 Feb 2024 07:20 collapse

The iPhone 15 pro is usb 3 and I believe current gen iPads are either usb 3 or thunderbolt

tb_@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 07:34 next collapse

The iPhone 15 pro is usb 3

After the EU forced them to adopt USB C

Fisch@lemmy.ml on 08 Feb 2024 11:19 collapse

It’s not about USB C but about the USB version. Only their Pro models have USB 3 but the other ones have USB 2.

tb_@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 14:49 next collapse

USB 3 wasn’t an option whilst they were sticking with lightning, and if the EU hadn’t forced them they clearly wouldn’t have switched.

The reason the new non-pro iPhones use USB 2 is because they still use the old chip which previously used lightning, and as such never had a reason to support USB 3.

So I would say this is about the connector, even though you’re technically correct that the protocol is separate from the standard.

Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 08 Feb 2024 16:11 collapse

The reason they have USB2 is because they are using the same motherboard as previous models. They just soldered the USB-c port to where their lightning port used to be.

Meaning their lightning port was about as fast as USB2.

bamboo@lemm.ee on 08 Feb 2024 16:55 collapse

Not the same motherboard, but the same SoC.

realitista@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 02:03 collapse

Yes only the very top model. But get this. They shipped it with a USB 2.0 only cable. You know, just to stick the knife in a little bit anyway. Those guys sure know how to make a joke.

bamboo@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 06:17 collapse

The very top model is the Pro Max. Pro is the second top model, by price. But yeah…

As a side note, the cable is actually really nice if usb 2 is fine. It’s super flexible and braided, all of my other braided cables are much more stiff. I would buy a longer one if they made one.

LodeMike@lemmy.today on 08 Feb 2024 03:27 next collapse

They’ve gotta be trolling at this point.

JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz on 08 Feb 2024 04:40 next collapse

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Honytawk@lemmy.zip on 08 Feb 2024 16:09 next collapse

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VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee on 09 Feb 2024 00:54 collapse

Buy different, oculus

vanontom@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 10:33 collapse

Just extracting wealth from the cult fans and tech illiterate. And they will keep pushing the insane prices, until people stop paying (sounds familiar). I wish they’d use their absurd profits to actually bring to market something truly spectacular. Dyson makes more daring and innovative products, funded by vacuums, heh.

Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works on 08 Feb 2024 11:59 next collapse

It’s Closed Source. No one truly knows how it really works. That means you were right to begin with. It’s a gorramn cult.

modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 08 Feb 2024 12:25 collapse

dyson is in every sense the apple of vacuums lol

vanontom@lemmy.world on 09 Feb 2024 02:17 collapse

Agreed. To be clear, I only meant this in the most insulting way to Apple, the proud engineers of $300 goggle straps and $1000 monitor stands.

modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 09 Feb 2024 02:56 collapse

You realize how massive of a marketing pull both of those are right, the 1000 dollar wheels were like 20% why people didn’t forget the mac pro 2 days after it was announced.

bamboo@lemm.ee on 08 Feb 2024 07:26 next collapse

If it’s just USB 2, wouldn’t that be slower than WiFi in a lot of cases? Maybe not in a crowded area (like offices, which is probably a representative environment for a lot of developers purchasing this), but if you’re in short range of an AP you should be able to get over 500Mbps. Apple also likes to use WiFi direct, such as in airdrop, which can cut the AP out for shorter distance and therefore faster speeds.

randombullet@programming.dev on 08 Feb 2024 10:06 collapse

It’s also Wifi AX which I’ve hit 600mbps with my phone.

Buttttt it’s wifi AX for 5ghz only.

Railison@aussie.zone on 08 Feb 2024 11:52 next collapse

So what are the Apple engineers using?

sploosh@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 14:41 collapse

Finding new and innovative ways to charge $300 for a USB cable.

Resol@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 15:17 next collapse

The future is here, and it’s ridiculously SLOW and ridiculously EXPENSIVE.

I’d rather stay in 2012. The switch to Lightning is basically all I can handle when it comes to controversy.

danielfgom@lemmy.world on 08 Feb 2024 19:05 collapse

Typical Apple…🤦