SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
on 20 May 2024 17:03
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It might be a mistake to allow AI’s control of weapon systems.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world
on 20 May 2024 17:17
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because it apparently didn’t go up as high as it was supposed to, the test was ultimately declared unsuccessful.
Poor Chinese. They have yet to learn so much from Elon (hint: declare everything a success. NO. MATTER. WHAT.)
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world
on 20 May 2024 17:42
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One of my favorite Star Trek quotes of all time: “If the invasion had been considered a defeat Gowron would’ve been assassinated by now. He simply declared victory, and went home.”
School_Lunch@lemmy.world
on 20 May 2024 17:25
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I wonder how much more energy it took to accomplish that compared to just shooting a rocket. Last I had heard railguns weren’t really feasible because of the absurd amount of energy they would require even with perfect efficiency.
UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
on 20 May 2024 18:37
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It’s not the absurd amount of energy that’s the problem. It’s the absurd amount of energy that has to be STORED AND RELEASED within a fraction of a second in a controlled fashion.
If you wanna go electric, you would need a stupendous amount of capacitors and a gun that won’t get destroyed due to the immense energy release.
If u wanna go chemical (like an actual gun), u r faced with the same problem of the gun exploding.
The only approach that MIGHT work is the Spinlaunch thing, where u essentially store this energy as angular momentum in a THICCC carbon fibre rod. Spinlaunch is still yet to demonstrate anything remarkable, so there’s that.
They replaced the CEO last week from the original founder. I’m not hopeful it isn’t all just a big cash grab that made a bunch of board members rich. Capitalism is ruining everything.
UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
on 21 May 2024 05:02
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Yea, which is nothing. Plus altitude means nothing when u want to put stuff in orbit. It’s the initial velocity that matters for an apparatus like this.
Buffalox@lemmy.world
on 20 May 2024 18:43
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I’m no expert, but I could imagine rail-guns would be a huge advantage on nuclear powered vessels. For one the ammo doesn’t explode if hit by enemy fire, and I’m guessing the ammo would be super cheap. In theory you could shoot bars of iron.
EvilBit@lemmy.world
on 20 May 2024 19:29
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They might also have a much smaller launch signature, meaning harder response to a first-strike launch. But I’m not a physicist or nuclear deterrence expert or anything.
APassenger@lemmy.world
on 20 May 2024 23:32
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When it’s not an experiment:
Do we know where it is?
Is it mobile?
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
on 21 May 2024 03:54
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This is the military we’re talking about.
They’ll turn a metal ring into a million dollar thing making sure it has 0 flaws on the surface that might cause 1 in a million shots to go off course.
Sabata11792@kbin.social
on 21 May 2024 03:56
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If you have the opportunity to involve a giant rail gun in something, you do it.
guacupado@lemmy.world
on 21 May 2024 15:20
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They’re not feasible because of the erosion of the barrel with our current level of materials science.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee
on 20 May 2024 19:04
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Spinlaunch has been trying to make a catapult-to-orbit out of a miniature hyperloop. Actually not as dumb as I made it sound (but it does have its own issues)
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
on 21 May 2024 03:56
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Unless your upper half happened to be on the upper path of one of those things. Then it would probably be amazing for like a nanosecond. In the most macabre way I suppose. But just a nanosecond. After that when you fully realize what happened there probably wouldn’t be much you left to keep realizing anything past that.
assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
on 21 May 2024 14:44
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It goes without saying that we should work out any safety issues before that
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
on 21 May 2024 19:04
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You can launch payloads into orbit with less pollution and for cheaper. You can build habitations with the material and bring humans up the traditional way.
Of course though, the powers that be are going to be more interested in killing each other.
until they use the tech to drop bombs more effectively
psmgx@lemmy.world
on 21 May 2024 01:57
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…a weapon to surpass Metal Gear
gari_9812@lemmy.world
on 21 May 2024 18:11
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That’s horrifying… but TBH it also sounds kinda sick
acockworkorange@mander.xyz
on 21 May 2024 20:47
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And when I said that their “electric launch system” for “scientific space exploration” was just a public testbed for a missile launch system, a small army of tankies descended upon me.
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It might be a mistake to allow AI’s control of weapon systems.
Poor Chinese. They have yet to learn so much from Elon (hint: declare everything a success. NO. MATTER. WHAT.)
One of my favorite Star Trek quotes of all time: “If the invasion had been considered a defeat Gowron would’ve been assassinated by now. He simply declared victory, and went home.”
I wonder how much more energy it took to accomplish that compared to just shooting a rocket. Last I had heard railguns weren’t really feasible because of the absurd amount of energy they would require even with perfect efficiency.
It’s not the absurd amount of energy that’s the problem. It’s the absurd amount of energy that has to be STORED AND RELEASED within a fraction of a second in a controlled fashion.
If you wanna go electric, you would need a stupendous amount of capacitors and a gun that won’t get destroyed due to the immense energy release.
If u wanna go chemical (like an actual gun), u r faced with the same problem of the gun exploding.
The only approach that MIGHT work is the Spinlaunch thing, where u essentially store this energy as angular momentum in a THICCC carbon fibre rod. Spinlaunch is still yet to demonstrate anything remarkable, so there’s that.
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They replaced the CEO last week from the original founder. I’m not hopeful it isn’t all just a big cash grab that made a bunch of board members rich. Capitalism is ruining everything.
Yea, which is nothing. Plus altitude means nothing when u want to put stuff in orbit. It’s the initial velocity that matters for an apparatus like this.
I’m no expert, but I could imagine rail-guns would be a huge advantage on nuclear powered vessels. For one the ammo doesn’t explode if hit by enemy fire, and I’m guessing the ammo would be super cheap. In theory you could shoot bars of iron.
They might also have a much smaller launch signature, meaning harder response to a first-strike launch. But I’m not a physicist or nuclear deterrence expert or anything.
When it’s not an experiment:
This is the military we’re talking about.
They’ll turn a metal ring into a million dollar thing making sure it has 0 flaws on the surface that might cause 1 in a million shots to go off course.
If you have the opportunity to involve a giant rail gun in something, you do it.
They’re not feasible because of the erosion of the barrel with our current level of materials science.
If it’s so smart, why can’t it launch itself? 🤓
Its so smart it gets something else to do all the work for it.
It's just a manager bomb, it failed into that position.
A new space race with railguns would be the fucking coolest thing ever
Spinlaunch has been trying to make a catapult-to-orbit out of a miniature hyperloop. Actually not as dumb as I made it sound (but it does have its own issues)
Unless your upper half happened to be on the upper path of one of those things. Then it would probably be amazing for like a nanosecond. In the most macabre way I suppose. But just a nanosecond. After that when you fully realize what happened there probably wouldn’t be much you left to keep realizing anything past that.
It goes without saying that we should work out any safety issues before that
You can launch payloads into orbit with less pollution and for cheaper. You can build habitations with the material and bring humans up the traditional way.
Of course though, the powers that be are going to be more interested in killing each other.
until they use the tech to drop bombs more effectively
…a weapon to surpass Metal Gear
That’s horrifying… but TBH it also sounds kinda sick
And when I said that their “electric launch system” for “scientific space exploration” was just a public testbed for a missile launch system, a small army of tankies descended upon me.