The Onion buys rightwing conspiracy theory site Infowars with plans to make it ‘very funny, very stupid’ (www.theguardian.com)
from merde@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 15:30
https://sh.itjust.works/post/28088684

Here’s Why I Decided To Buy ‘InfoWars’ By Bryce P. Tetraeder, Global Tetrahedron CEO ☞ theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/

And let me say, I really do see it as a family. Much like family members, our brands are abstract nodes of wealth, interchangeable assets for their patriarch to absorb and discard according to the opaque whims of the market. And just like family members, our brands regard one another with mutual suspicion and malice.

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PanArab@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 15:35 next collapse

Info Wars might actually become credible

[deleted] on 14 Nov 15:57 next collapse

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nobody158@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 18:16 collapse

Wouldn’t that be ironic

ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one on 15 Nov 14:11 collapse

Alanis Morrisette plays

noodlejetski@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 15:35 next collapse

truly the wildest of timelines

Cheems@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:37 collapse

Make reality boring again

Alexstarfire@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 15:40 next collapse

This was not on my bingo card.

merde@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 15:43 collapse

Gaetz?

i’ve just read that quote

latenightnoir@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 15:41 next collapse

Honestly, considering how much of a clown Alex Jones was, they have their work cut out for them if they want to compete at comedic levels!

Either way, this may be the best news I’ve heard all year, thank you!

hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org on 14 Nov 17:09 collapse

I wonder if this gives them the rights to all of Infowars’ library of footage. Maybe they could “keep” Jones as a host by cutting up old clips kinda how South Park did with Isaac Hayes for Chef’s last episode.

Joeffect@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 17:27 next collapse

Up for grabs at the auction were Infowars production rights and materials, the Infowars store, domain names, production equipment and other assets — including a Terradyne armored truck and a Winnebago motor home — that can be purchased in their entirety or in parts, according to the firm, ThreeSixty Asset Advisors. Jones broadcasts from the Austin, Texas, area.

tanisnikana@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:19 next collapse

I’ll take the middle third of the Winnebago, just carve it out and drop it on Nick Fuentes’ lawn, thanks.

anomnom@sh.itjust.works on 15 Nov 01:55 collapse

The “shitter’s full” third I hope.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 13:27 collapse

Considering what The Onion has been able to do with manipulating video for the sake of comedy, I can’t wait to see what they do with any of their footage.

nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca on 14 Nov 18:51 next collapse

I hope they own Jones’ likeness to the point where they can give DJs the rights to remix his shouts into something of value.

Omgpwnies@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:10 next collapse

Train an AI model to produce new shows with him as the host

theangryseal@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 22:00 collapse

This just in! I’m turning my frickin’ self gay! I’m selling the supplements that will get you there too! The deep state wants to control us! NO MORE! You’re not gonna get my frickin’ dna to fight in your wars! You’re not gonna push us around!

eats handful of supplements

These Pro-homoerotics are literally the best on the market. I just now took them and I already want to tear my clothes off and throw the cameraman on this table!

Help support InfoWars and fight the deep state! I can’t do this without you guys and now I want to do you guys!

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 14 Nov 19:02 collapse

One of the few good uses for generative AI I’ve seen.

overload@sopuli.xyz on 14 Nov 15:48 next collapse

Finally some good news!

billiam0202@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 15:53 next collapse

very funny, very stupid

Well, their work is half done already!

PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 15:54 next collapse

I mean, it’s already half way there, all they got to do is make it funny

Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 15:58 next collapse

I genuinely don’t know how they plan to make a parody of InfoWars that will not be indistinguishable from the original thing.

EleventhHour@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 16:53 next collapse

They’re very, very good at it

nobody158@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 18:14 collapse

I for one am excited to see what they are going to do with it.

EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Nov 18:36 collapse

The funniest thing to do would be to turn it into either a legitimate leftist new site or a leftist themed nujob conspiracy mill (though I don’t know how that would work).

booly@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 19:02 next collapse

leftist themed nujob conspiracy mill

The Republican party is ripe for conspiracy theory targets.

Epstein had close ties with Trump and his attorney general Bill Barr (whose father hired Epstein to teach at a prestigious private high school without a college degree, where he was known for ogling the high school girls and showing up to parties where underage drinking was happening). The waitresses and hostesses at Trump’s Mar a Lago were also regularly recruited to work at Epstein’s island. Alex Acosta, the federal prosecutor who agreed to a secret plea deal where Epstein served a slap on the wrist in a local jail instead of real prison was later elevated to Trump’s cabinet, as Labor Secretary.

Now, Trump has named another child sex trafficker as his nominee for Attorney General.

There are suspicious ties between the Saudi royal family and key members in Trump’s orbit, including his son in law Jared Kushner. Elon Musk has been doing sketchy shit with the Saudis and the Russians, as well. Basically everyone in Trump’s circle, including his nominee to be the director of national intelligence, has shady ties with foreign adversaries.

There’s lots of other little things about financial profiteering by the Trump folks: an SBA COVID bailout that went to huge businesses, a move to privatize or sabotage the public postal service and the weather service to help the private competition, arbitrary or politically motivated regulations to help certain businesses while hurting others, etc.

I mean, it really wouldn’t be hard.

EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Nov 22:45 collapse

The hard part would be doing it in a way that pulls in the kind of people who listened to Alex Jones.

Cethin@lemmy.zip on 14 Nov 19:04 next collapse

I’m hoping for something similar to what The Colbert Report used to be.

RandomVideos@programming.dev on 14 Nov 19:09 next collapse

“The rich intentionally causing global warming to make people have to use cars”

Ton@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:39 next collapse

Bingo. Slowly turn them onto each other…

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:19 collapse

The global oil cartel and billionaires such as the Koch family are funding media and politicians to convince you and your neighbors to continue burning oil and using plastics recklessly with zero regard for the fact that they’ve known for decades that this is increasing global temperatures and killing people. It’s right under your noses folks, and they don’t want you to notice. They’re even running secret campaigns on social media to convince you to spend more time hating your neighbors and to convince you to be angry about policies that not only hinder their nefarious plans but grant you the freedom to choose how you get around town while reducing traffic! They’re even boldly lying to your face about this! Look with your eyes! November used to be snowy! Nowadays the fine people of the Midwest are wearing shorts in October and these corporations and cartels are telling you that the climate isn’t changing and that it’s not a problem! [incoherent shirtless screaming]

bdonvr@thelemmy.club on 14 Nov 20:26 collapse

Yes but slowly and using language they’re familiar with. Lure them into it

lightscription@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 16:01 next collapse

Great idea. Who didn’t like the Colbert Report? Could turn out like a right-wing populist Repor!

But he’s got a serious side. You know what those globalists are doing…

AGuyAcrossTheInternet@fedia.io on 14 Nov 16:07 next collapse

Listen, I keep saying that reality is better satire than satire, BUT COME ON!

Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml on 14 Nov 16:14 next collapse

Lol I am so happy about this.

Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 16:17 next collapse

Who did they give money to? Maybe it would’ve been better if they just created a offbrand infowars.

troyunrau@lemmy.ca on 14 Nov 16:24 next collapse

Probably the money paid for whomever Alex Jones lost lawsuits against – so like Sandy Hook victims.

atocci@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 16:25 next collapse

The sale follows a judge’s order earlier this year for Jones to liquidate his personal assets, to help him to pay off the $1.4bn he was ordered to pay the families of victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting…

I believe this money goes to the victims’ families

ricecake@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 16:28 next collapse

The assets were auctioned off to pay his debt to the families of the Sandy Hook shooting.
So effectively they gave money to the families of children killed in a school shooting that he slandered in cruel and vile ways.

Given that the families pretty reasonably dislike him, the added bonus of his creation being used to openly mock him and promote a message they endorse is quality icing on the cake.

half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 16:49 collapse

One thing the headlines aren’t mentioning is that the families actually even helped fund a portion of the Onion’s bid.

In order to make the bid work, a lawyer representing the families told CNN that the families “agreed to forgo a portion of their recovery to increase the overall value of the Onion’s bid, enabling its success”.

EleventhHour@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 16:55 next collapse

Ha!

ricecake@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 18:06 collapse

Ha! I didn’t see that at first. I love “fuck you so hard that we can and will put a significant dollar value on it being more humiliating”.

half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 16:52 collapse

It was being auctioned for the victims but there was also the real risk that a supporter would win who would let him he continue on business as usual. So definitely money well spent.

MoonManKipper@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 16:22 next collapse

That pushed me over the edge to subscribe to the print edition

Bassman1805@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 16:26 next collapse

Best news I’ve seen in weeks

workerONE@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 16:30 next collapse

Alien diarrhea is the real cause of global warning!

merde@sh.itjust.works on 15 Nov 00:59 collapse

i didn’t know that 🤯

grue@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 16:30 next collapse

Does this mean they’re Alex Jones’s boss now?

PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Nov 16:54 next collapse

Makes sense. They keep him contained somewhere to ramble, while appropriately inducted and vetted comedians interpret, neutralize and transmit his bullshit and make it funny.

An oracle of comedy situation.

bitjunkie@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:18 collapse

Aside from the official licensing, you essentially just described Knowledge Fight.

Pretzilla@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 10:23 collapse

They own his IP rights so can just clone him into an AI bot

96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl on 14 Nov 17:18 next collapse

It took me a while to realize this is actually true. Reality is amazing.

JoYo@lemmy.ml on 14 Nov 17:28 next collapse

Through it all, InfoWars has shown an unswerving commitment to manufacturing anger and radicalizing the most vulnerable members of society—values that resonate deeply with all of us at Global Tetrahedron.

sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 17:30 next collapse

I thought that was a joke. But regular news sites are running the story. So maybe it’s real?

Evotech@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 17:52 next collapse

It’s real. Their new owner is very rich and doesn’t give a fuck

nokturne213@sopuli.xyz on 14 Nov 19:22 collapse

I saw a TikTok of Alex crying about it. It is real.

sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 20:06 collapse

That’s really amazing. Their joke article was hilarious even as a joke. But the fact that they really bought it is beautiful.

poleslav@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 17:35 next collapse

Saw the news on their YouTube. Looked it up thinking it was satire and sure as shit it’s not. Probably the fastest I’ve ever purchased merch ever. Gonna love wearing my onion shirt, always loved them but this was the point I needed to send them some money because this is hilarious.

ggppjj@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 18:55 next collapse

They just brought back print and it’s been very satisfying for me so far.

Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 20:28 collapse

I’m glad you mentioned this, I just signed up for a year of print

ggppjj@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 22:20 collapse

Happy to help!

tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip on 14 Nov 22:03 collapse

They need new merch with the infowars logo almost the same but with an onion dotting the i

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 17:44 next collapse

My favorite part of this:

…Collins said that “part of the reason we did bought InfoWars is because people on Bluesky told us it would be funny to buy InfoWars” adding that “those people were right” this “is the funniest thing that has ever happened”.

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 18:49 collapse

That also sounds like the kind of prank that Cards Against Humanity would pull if they had access to as much cash. I love this so much.

db2@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 17:47 next collapse

I wonder what they paid 🤣

Ultraviolet@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 18:31 collapse

To quote the Onion themselves:

No price would be too high for such a cornucopia of malleable assets and minds. And yet, in a stroke of good fortune, a formidable special interest group has outwitted the hapless owner of InfoWars (a forgettable man with an already-forgotten name) and forced him to sell it at a steep bargain: less than one trillion dollars.

Gork@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 19:55 collapse

Their adherence to the technically correct is awe-inspiring.

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 14 Nov 18:07 next collapse

This is what I call a master class on starting a soft revolution: you take over a symbol of the opposite ideology, in the most outrageous and ridiculous way, make it known to all, and completely subvert it and deconstruct it, piece by piece, until it stops making any sense to its former self.

Kecessa@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 18:59 collapse

Like the right keeps doing with memes!

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 14 Nov 19:11 next collapse

Memes come and go too fast for that.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:06 collapse

And yet a meme from a decade ago is about to become a government office

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 15 Nov 17:07 collapse

Which one?

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:22 collapse

Doge. Much old. Very beaten into ground

qyron@sopuli.xyz on 15 Nov 17:26 collapse

Oh. That one.

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:30 next collapse

like this?

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bitchkat@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:44 next collapse

And CNN

merde@sh.itjust.works on 15 Nov 00:56 collapse

and words too. Even words get to mean exactly their antonyms :/

zephorah@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 18:35 next collapse

The funniest piece is going to be seeing old followers believe it’s still the InfoWars they know and love. It took forever for people to stop eating the onion in large numbers, and it still manages to happen on occasion.

There is opportunity here. Initially, anyway.

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 18:51 next collapse

I think there’s always going to be that group of people. Another example: folks that didn’t notice that The Colbert Report was satire.

Today@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:47 collapse

I thought Glenn Beck was satire. Watched it several times and then one day … wait, that’s not a joke?

zephorah@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 22:10 collapse

Beck sounds batshit. Right there with you.

catloaf@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 19:03 next collapse

Looks like it’s been down since January. Do you think people are still trying it?

zephorah@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 21:52 collapse

I still have OSINT on my podcast roll even though Bazzell quit. Maybe it’ll come back? I’m sure others have done the same.

CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 20:01 next collapse

A part of me actually wished that the Onion would have purchased InfoWars, but in secret, like maybe under a subsidiary corp that has a right-wing sounding name.

They don’t change Infowars’ branding or anything but the articles become subtly liberal.

Maybe an overt purchase is better but I really want to troll the right.

GladiusB@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:55 next collapse

“Do your swastikas send the right message to your neighbors? Maybe try this instead…”

zephorah@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 21:50 next collapse

I don’t think they have to. People are going to consume it like it’s the same old. Inertia and assumption.

tpyo@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 06:34 collapse

A part of me actually wished that the Onion would have purchased InfoWars, but in secret, like maybe under a subsidiary corp that has a right-wing sounding name.

"Today we celebrate a new addition to the Global Tetrahedron LLC family of brands. "

don’t change Infowars’ branding

“Founded in 1999 … InfoWars has distinguished itself as an invaluable tool for brainwashing and controlling the masses.

InfoWars has shown an unswerving commitment to manufacturing anger and radicalizing the most vulnerable members of society—values that resonate deeply with all of us at Global Tetrahedron.

No price would be too high for such a cornucopia of malleable assets and minds. … a steep bargain: less than one trillion dollars.”

I’m absolutely not disagreeing with you; I believe the onion will continue on doing “its thing” and keeping on-brand for both entities. Do exactly what you say and publish articles either believable or outlandish enough to break through to people

R3D4CT3D@midwest.social on 14 Nov 20:46 collapse

YESS!

JoYo@lemmy.ml on 14 Nov 18:38 next collapse

im sorry but the owner’s name is tim onion. please publish a correction.

JoYo@lemmy.ml on 14 Nov 18:41 next collapse

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9point6@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:52 next collapse

“Tim onion” got an irl lol out of me

Zerlyna@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 12:03 next collapse

OMG i can’t stop giggling about it too

ConstableJelly@midwest.social on 15 Nov 16:46 collapse

Is that a Trump “Tim Apple” reference? I wouldn’t have even noticed if you hadn’t called it out.

Woovie@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 01:47 next collapse

ben also replied saying he’d hold it for knowledge fight, so there’s an incredible chance we might see knowledge fight use it at some point.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 16:39 collapse

What’s special about his desk?

TachyonTele@lemm.ee on 15 Nov 16:47 collapse

They’re talking about the infowars desk.

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 18:53 next collapse

For me, the cherry on top is how the “InfoWars” name is still completely apt, for completely different reasons.

humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 19:46 next collapse

Where is Alex Jones on now?

Aksamit@slrpnk.net on 14 Nov 19:57 collapse

Hasn’t Trump appointed him head of media relations, or something equally as stupid?

CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 20:09 collapse

If Alex Jones becomes press secretary, I’ll be convinced that this is all a simulation.

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 21:04 collapse

I would love that. The only person on earth less coherent than Trump. Imagine the memes we would get out of that.

Duamerthrax@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:53 next collapse

Reformatting InfoWars as a serious, unironic branch of the Onion that deals with misinformation would just be great.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 16:40 collapse

That would be hilarious. I’d love for it to wind up just doing serious journalism

Excrubulent@slrpnk.net on 14 Nov 23:16 next collapse

I gotta find out what the Knowledge Fight folks have to say about this.

FauxPseudo@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 00:16 collapse

I am waiting for the next episode to drop. Biggest episode ever.

Excrubulent@slrpnk.net on 15 Nov 08:10 collapse

Is Dan the loud one? I’ve never learned their names, but I’m waiting for him to scream something about them horning in on their territory.

FauxPseudo@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 13:19 collapse

Dan is the guy that knows stuff. Jordan is the loud sidekick comic relief.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 13:28 collapse

Every so often, I see a car with an InfoWars bumper sticker.

I wonder what those people will do?

dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 14:20 collapse

No idea. Maybe they’ll keep it like the Gadsden Flag holdout libertarians? “We were here first” and all that.

Honestly, I was thinking about the people out there with tattoos. There has to be at least one.

Blackmist@feddit.uk on 14 Nov 18:56 next collapse

Well they only need to do the first part of that.

YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 18:57 next collapse

This is so weird, I just read a comment on Lemmy where someone said they should do exactly this.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:32 collapse

It was a good idea. Makes sense multiple people thought of it, including the onion

crystalmerchant@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:22 next collapse

Can’t wait for Dan and Jordan to cover this

FauxPseudo@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 00:17 collapse

I keep refreshing my pod feed waiting for the next episode.

AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com on 14 Nov 19:24 next collapse

This is the best thing that’s ever happened

Hikermick@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:27 next collapse

This just made my day

masquenox@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:29 next collapse

They should send Alex Jones a $1 “royalty” check every month - just so that he doesn’t forget it.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 22:14 collapse

Make it $0.01. No need to waste too much money.

masquenox@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 22:25 collapse

Nah. They should just make sure the checks bounce.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:08 collapse

Nah, send his victims fund a royalty check and him a confirmation of delivery.

masquenox@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 20:58 collapse

That works for me, too.

kokesh@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:38 next collapse

Stupid it was all along

xorollo@leminal.space on 14 Nov 19:40 next collapse

Wait, is it real?

wertyuiop@feddit.rocks on 14 Nov 19:40 next collapse

THEY TURNED THE FREAKIN FROG GAY!!!

humble_pete_digger@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 19:46 next collapse

Where did they move? Where is Alex Jones on now?

pineapplelover@lemm.ee on 14 Nov 20:23 next collapse

I think he’s getting sued or something

merde@sh.itjust.works on 15 Nov 00:51 collapse

according to the guardian article, he’s complaining on Xitter now

bitchkat@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:47 next collapse

They should run it like it was. Then in about a year, just subtly start changing the context. Then before you know it, they are going to start supporting progressive topics.

obinice@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:47 next collapse

This is fucking hilarious, best news I’ve heard in forever.

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:52 next collapse

meaning even more so

chiliedogg@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 19:59 next collapse

They should harness the crazy for good. Make conspiracy theory-sounding stories, but make them factual and get people to take positive action.

They created chemicals you can inject into the bloodstream that keeps them from getting the Measels.”

“The overlords in their golden towers want to tell you who you are and aren’t allowed to love.”

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 21:36 next collapse

I would love this.

Wahots@pawb.social on 14 Nov 22:30 next collapse

This is brilliant. Please send them an email with this idea.

dirthawker0@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 22:32 next collapse

I’m totally for this and I bet it would work, too. We’ve seen the level of ignorance that went into how people chose to vote. If OnionWars puts up those kinds of stories, along with the occasional article declaring Jones actually still owns InfoWarts and any news stating otherwise is fake, they could ease these nutjobs back to sanity.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 22:50 next collapse

The vaccine one would probably be better as: “independent thinking researchers developed a means of using your own body’s immune response to prevent diseases with a mere injection. Some of them even refused to patent it. But then the media started lying to you about them, trying to get you to stop accepting these miracles? Why, just so some companies could make more money selling you proprietary snake oil to keep you comfortable while you’re sick.”

Maggoty@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 23:02 next collapse

Big Essential Oil ruining the day again.

hogmomma@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 02:08 collapse

Coming from a reformed conspiracy theorist, that was frighteningly good.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 03:53 collapse

Thanks! The trick is to understand the emotions they aim for and the baseline rhetorical tricks.

Conspiracies stem from knowing you’re getting fucked, but that most people are good. It’s an attempt to find explanations when the world feels wrong. Someone did it. You just have to sell the truth in the tone that they’re used to hearing. Especially with vaccines where the truth does sound like a free lunch, until you realize that it’s governments and insurers paying for vaccines and it saves them and the economy money by you not getting sick or needing stronger medicines. These are the two groups that desperately want you to exercise, eat right, and quit smoking

Emerald@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 12:21 collapse

And then there’s ones that don’t have much of a modern-day effect but are still stupid. My English teacher truly believes that the Titanic was sunk on purpose for insurance purposes.

She also believes that a Secret Service agent might have shot JFK

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 15:19 collapse

Those too are an attempt to create order out of a scary and chaotic world. The JFK assassination theories are often used as the textbook example of that fact.

While it is true that JFK’s family was heavily involved in the mob and that he wasn’t the favorite of the out of control CIA, the evidence we have after many eyes on it for decades asserts one thing: a man by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald was an exceptional marksman in his time in the marines, and had a tendency towards political radicalization that wasn’t particularly directed, and so in an attempt to curry favor with the Cuban government (he was a communist but had been disillusioned by the USSR), but without their permission (they would have asked him not to), he hid in a book repository along the route of the presidential motorcade, laid in wait, and when the time came fired two shots directly into the skull of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. He like every successful presidential assassin acted alone and based on political grievances.

And the fact is, that that’s terrifying to a lot of people. One person changed so much with one act. Conspiracy theories here are an attempt to find an alternative explanation for something so jarring. One marine sniper shouldn’t be able to, but the cia or the mob or Cuba or the ussr… A group, conspiring should be able to, and they’re shadowy and hiding the truth…

The fact is that the difference between the Kennedy assassination and the attempted assassinations of trump are of marksmanship and chance, not of conspiracy. Nobody says the Reagan assassin wasn’t working alone because he failed

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 15:26 collapse

Reassemble the MythBusters

Bosht@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:10 next collapse

Oh my god what a power move. More power to them, seriously. Best outcome we could have gotten

finitebanjo@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:22 next collapse

Next week’s headlines “Alex Jones appointed as Secretary of State” or some other wackass shit.

bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works on 14 Nov 20:25 collapse

Press secretary would be perfect.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:24 collapse

Ok, but surgeon general would be hilarious

bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works on 16 Nov 01:47 collapse

The Surgeon General hawking supplements in official statements would be peak America.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 16 Nov 05:36 collapse

Full on C. Everett Coop style sending pamphlets to every home in America except instead of it being a genuinely courageous and heroic act of medical ethics, providing information on how to prevent the spread of HIV even when those acts went against his religion, this will be explaining how to prevent the woke mind virus using his leaded brain pills, now with extra cadmium

jagged_circle@feddit.nl on 14 Nov 20:23 next collapse

So…the onion is now donating money to Alex Jones.

Thats kinda fucked.

JoYo@lemmy.ml on 14 Nov 20:26 next collapse

nope

GeneralVincent@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 20:28 next collapse

It’s a bankruptcy auction, and he’s bankrupt because he was sued by Sandy Hook families. Some of those families gave money to the Onion to buy InfoWars so Alex Jones is losing his platform and his money.

It sucks for him more than it helps him really.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:31 collapse

It doesn’t help him at all. As a bankruptcy auction they’re taking what they can get and forgiving the rest. If the auctions had gone over settlement price it would’ve helped him, but that wasn’t going to happen, you don’t really get bankruptcy when you have salable assets whose expected value exceeds your debts.

bdonvr@thelemmy.club on 14 Nov 20:28 collapse

That’s not how bankruptcy filings work

eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Nov 21:36 next collapse

Fucking awesome. Onion has been hitting it hard lately, and this is just the cherry on top. I am hopeful this makes some chuds question their minds.

schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Nov 21:38 next collapse

Wait, what? Which parts of this are satire now? I read the Onion piece that Global Tetrahedron was purchasing InfoWars, but this is a Guardian story saying The Onion is purchasing it? I’m a bit confused.

unyons@feddit.org on 14 Nov 22:09 next collapse

It’s not satire, they are purchasing it for real.

computergeek125@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 00:16 next collapse

It’s on APNews too - it’s real

JWBananas@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 00:18 collapse
mo_lave@reddthat.com on 14 Nov 21:53 next collapse

Is it The Onion? Or Not the Onion?

Yes

Glitterbomb@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 12:45 collapse

Today, The Onion ate.

Aeri@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 21:56 next collapse

Counterpoint, it was already stupid.

Godnroc@lemmy.world on 14 Nov 22:21 collapse

Yes, but this time it will be on purpose.

roofuskit@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 00:17 next collapse

Will anyone visiting know the difference?

kamen@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 10:38 next collapse

Probably depends on whether they see a difference between intentional and unintentional satire.

echodot@feddit.uk on 15 Nov 19:32 collapse

The onion is a satirical takes on the news. Infowars is just utter nonsense.

Infowars could claim that immigrants are using teleporters to enter the country and its readership would believe it.

roofuskit@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 21:16 collapse

Yeah, that’s my point. The idiots visiting it won’t get satire.

comfy@lemmy.ml on 15 Nov 06:52 next collapse

I hope they keep Alex Jones’s communism financing operation going.

gmtom@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 11:21 next collapse

Do they have rights to use Jones’ likeness, in the sense of reposting old clips and the like?

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works on 15 Nov 17:14 next collapse

They said they have everything.

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 19:05 collapse
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Nov 11:43 next collapse

Remember Stephen Colbert’s satire? Conservatives loved him.

Satire of something already completely outlandish is problematic.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 13:26 next collapse

What problem did that cause? It only made everyone else laugh at them harder.

Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Nov 17:17 collapse

You could accidentally create new conspiracies, that people legitimately believe.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:21 collapse

I don’t think that ever happened with Colbert, did it?

Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Nov 17:36 collapse

People’s definitely agreed with and used his lines of argument, even though he intended them humorously. I don’t know if he put out any conspiracy theories.

FlyingSquid@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 17:40 next collapse

I just don’t think the people who believed him and used his lines of argument were taken seriously either except by people who were already in their bubble and weren’t going to come out.

UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works on 15 Nov 19:48 collapse

I’m too tired to make this witty but something about it leading to the MAGA movement being a bubble

Serinus@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 18:26 collapse

What was the “gut” thing again?

zarkanian@sh.itjust.works on 15 Nov 17:13 collapse

PrObLeMaTiC

Hadriscus@lemm.ee on 15 Nov 17:21 collapse

it’s when there are problems

Freefall@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 12:37 next collapse

LoL, AJ lost the Info War. 🤣👍

postmateDumbass@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 15:27 next collapse

The Onion’s first headline needs to be:

“Oh Shit! It’s ALL true!”

Masamune@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 18:01 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/27881c7c-8dfd-44c4-b229-21b110e037de.gif">

This should be good…

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 18:50 next collapse

How could you tell the difference?

SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 19:05 next collapse

I look forward to seeing Jean Teasdale as the editor and Jim Anchower cruising again.

eronth@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 19:13 next collapse

Honestly, I would love for them to turn it into just a bastion of info. Just detail the goings-on of the current government.

undergroundoverground@lemmy.world on 15 Nov 21:05 next collapse

Its also exactly the kind of thing you’d expect to read about in the onion.

This is beyond mear irony.

Rivalarrival@lemmy.today on 15 Nov 21:14 next collapse

The Onion buys rightwing conspiracy theory site Infowars with plans to make it ‘very funny, very stupid’

They’re halfway there already.

zbyte64@awful.systems on 17 Nov 15:05 collapse

Musk just had a judge in Texas say they’re going to review the bid. I guess we know who the other bidder was now.