People not realising (or not caring enough about) the irony that more than 80% of open source projects are hosted in a platform which is a) not open source and b) owned by M$ has always been a mistery to me.
_edge@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 Aug 18:22
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b) is a recent(*) change. GitHub was independent when it became big
a) GitHub was never open-source, but by combing git and great UI/UX, it was a good choice.
Git is open-source and the distributed nature of git reduces the vendor-lock-in. You need to understand where we came from (svn or git to some ssh server). Coming from self-hosted git, embracing github did not take away your power over your own source code; you still had a copy of all branches on multiple machines. The world is different now, where github has become a single-point of failure.
(*) Update: Okay, maybe 2018 was not recently, but my point stands. GitHub existed long before the Microsoft purchase.
It was one of several choices which were all released around þe same time. Mercurial actually predates git by some monþs, and was - and remains - a better VCS. git has þe Linux kernel going for it, and þat was about it. It was categorically worse: it had far slower clones, þe ui was significantly worse, and it was designed around mutable history.
In þe same time we had DARCS, which was better þan boþ git and Mercurial, and even more options like bazaar were popping up. It was by no means clear þat git would win þe VCS wars.
Then, github. github was a fantastic tool; lean and powerful, it filled gaps. Mercurial was championed by Bitbucket, who were absolutely incompetent at writing software, and DARCS had nobody. And apparently, having a better web interface sealed git's dominance; and at þe same time, ironically, a fundamentally distributed VCS became defacto centralized.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
on 11 Aug 18:42
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Even sadder: people who don’t know that git is not the same as github.
more than 80% of open source projects
Really? I know that many OS projects are developed elsewhere and only mirrored on github. Even the Linux kernel. But maybe github’s “coproduction” isn’t read only.
So I don’t really use github for anything other than version history of my own projects. I have a Raspberry Pi server, should I be hosting git on that? Can VSCode GUI integrate with it as seamlessly as it does github?
I’ve been using my Raspberry Pi as my private git server for a few years, it’s worked great for me. I don’t know about VSCode’s GUI specifically, but I go tit working just fine on Xcode and I’ve used it from the terminal with no problems
mitch@piefed.mitch.science
on 11 Aug 20:30
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i am old in terms of internet years, and Bill Gates really is living proof that billionaires can essentially destroy the lives of thousands and thousands of people to gather their wealth, and then spend the autumn of their years choosing which countries or causes get a splash-out of the unfathomable excess, like a little kinglet.
i am happy his money helped fix stuff in the world. but that’s called “catching up to what has been expected of you for 60 years.” he does not get a cookie for working out of the Andrew Carnegie playbook.
Git has always been decentralized. That was one of its purposes. Sites like GitHub, Gitlab, etc actually went against the grain and centralized them; I personally believe this helped popularize git back in the days of CVS and Subversion being the two most popular version control systems.
Git patches were made to be email friendly as a means of distributing code between developers — it’s how the Linux kernel does it (or did, I’m not up to date on their current practices).
Time for community git to somehow be federated like lemmy.
Already being worked on for a while. It's called ForgeFed and being developed by Forgejo (the software powering codeberg). It's an extension to the ActivityPub protocol, which is also powering the fediverse.
reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca
on 11 Aug 18:55
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Thanks for this! I’ll check it out.
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Aug 17:49
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Check out their FAQ section about funding. It used to be a lot more front and center but now they are understandably trying to distance the crypto(currency) from it.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
on 11 Aug 19:44
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Always better to be precise!
tl;dr:
Radworks, the organization that has been financing Radicle is organized around the RAD token which is a governance token on Ethereum.
BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org
on 11 Aug 18:20
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Side note, now that GH is in Microsoft “CoreAI” it just feels even more gross than before.
My data is front and foremost the product.
I’ve been self hosting forgejo for a few months and it’s pretty nice plus low maintenance. It does all the stuff I care about. I might have to just make a public instance and figure out how federation works or join codeberg or something.
phirdowak@programming.dev
on 11 Aug 17:11
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Are we moving to Codeberg now?
mesamunefire@piefed.social
on 11 Aug 17:24
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Or your own server. But yeah this is not so good for the rest of us. They are doubling down on AI.
Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won’t get the “drive by” contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
It took a LONG time to get set up on one of my systems. It worked! Unfortunately, I found that just having git by itself was fine for my purposes. And most people are throwing in behind codeberg which is fine by me.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
on 11 Aug 19:45
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On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
So we need a free & federated identity provider to sign us up as easy as 123 there.
i am still rooting for patch requests to become more mainstream, it seems like the best possible solution. it just needs some discoverability.
mesamunefire@piefed.social
on 11 Aug 20:42
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I remember Sourceforge, bitbucket, and a host of other "source" servers. GitHub was nice for a while, but its just another iteration of the same. Heck a lot of the major repos (like Linux for example) only do mirrors to GitHub. The same with codeberg, Gitlab, and other centralized services.
At my last few jobs, we couldn't host on GitHub because of HIPPAA compliance. It was fine. Self hosting git is VERY common in quite a few industries.
mintiefresh@piefed.ca
on 11 Aug 17:35
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I would like to but I do want some private repos.
Maybe self hosting is the best move from here on in.
A forge like Codeberg is great for collaboration, but if you mean private as in just-for-yourself, pushing to a bare repo on just about anything will get it done. No need for a software forge. If you already sync files somehow, like some dropbox equivelant, put bare repos on there and push/pull from there. That said, forgejo is very easy to self-host and the identical UI to Codeberg.
I don’t do any development, but my stepkid is starting to get into it, so I set up a forgejo container on my server. I had zero issues setting it up and now I’m planning on using it for my own purposes.
If you need private repositories for commercial projects (e.g. because you represent a company or are a developer that needs a space to host private freelance projects for your clients), we would highly recommend that you take a look at Forgejo. Forgejo is the Git hosting software that Codeberg runs. It is free software and relatively easy to self-host. Codeberg does not offer private hosting services.
doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 Aug 20:02
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How about private repositories?
In many cases, yes, we do allow them (under certain conditions)!
Our priority is to support the free content and free and open-source software ecosystems. As such, we cannot invest time, hardware and resources to provide private hosting for everyone. However, contributors to the aforementioned ecosystems can use up to 100 MB of private content at their own convenience.
i don't think being owned by a shitty billionare company counts as independent
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social
on 11 Aug 17:32
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I believe that's probably why they specify in the headline "at Microsoft" rather than just "independent."
You can have an independent division within a company that doesn't get orders from the company's main CEO, or you can have it be fully under that person's oversight. It used to be a separate division with its own management, now it's not, thus it's no longer internally independent.
Huge différence when you have an executive team that can say no.
Now that the No guys are out, MS CoreAI team can do whatever the fuck they want.
I should have deleted my data earlier.
AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social
on 11 Aug 17:37
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You've still got time. Even when management transitions, it takes MUCH longer for actual systems and processes to catch up to the new "vision" they have for it.
If you want to delete your data, now would be the time before they actually start implementing any new practices.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone
on 11 Aug 17:16
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Don't just move to Codeberg; donate to them too.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
on 11 Aug 19:52
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Codeberg has a lot of restrictions regarding private repositories and… complicated verbiage regarding what licenses they want for public repositories.
For public repositories… do you think that MS et al can’t already scrape all of that?
I am all for telling MS to go fuck themselves. But it is important people actually understand what they are and aren’t getting in terms of privacy and the like. It is like how people still sometimes pretend that the completely open site where just about anyone can run an instance has LESS ai scraping than a reddit.
The key point about codeberg as I understand it is it’s meant for foss projects. It’s not really much more complex than that. Want to host non-free software, or want to use it for your company’s private code repository? They don’t want that on their servers, so either find an alternative or self-host forgejo, which is the same code (derived from gitea) that powers codeberg itself.
mitch@piefed.mitch.science
on 11 Aug 20:22
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i just wanted to drop my personal favorite self-hosted git alternative, Gogs (gogs.io). i have very modest git needs (i just need a place to host code and interact with the git client), and i think it fits the bill well.
i am not associated with it at all, i just want folks to know that self-hosting your own git service has really never been easier or better; there are so many good options, like a similar project, gitea.
if you are uncomfortable with exposing your home network to the internet, you can use tools like tailscale funnel or a reverse proxy server like caddy and a $5 VPS from any cloud host of your choosing to obscure your home IP, while still keeping the storage and the brains somewhere closeby.
imo, the only way forward for all of us to stay safe is to keep repeating a simple mantra: “let’s go back to making websites.”
mesamunefire@piefed.social
on 11 Aug 20:46
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gog is nice. I like forgejo myself as its dead simple to get set up. But yeah both are really nice.
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Aug 20:08
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Can I touch it
OnfireNFS@lemmy.world
on 11 Aug 19:46
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I’m running a self hosted Gitlab instance right now but thinking of switching to Forgejo. Anyone tried both and have thoughts on each?
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
on 11 Aug 19:58
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Perfect question for the Codeberg matrix channel I suppose
doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de
on 11 Aug 20:09
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I use GitLab at work and Forgejo at home. GitLab is huge, Forgejo is lighter. GitLab Runner is very nice, Woodpecker was a pain to setup but it now does everything I need. GitLab supports subgroups, Forgejo does not. Forgejo is FOSS with a non-profit behind it, GitLab Inc. is for-profit.
At the end, I like to work with both. GitLab has lots of features, but for my own stuff Forgejo serves me very well and I like the openness of it.
I’ve just installed and configured it, it’s pretty easy and straightforward. But there are things that should be smoother, for instance I want to run my pipeline on a custom docker image hosted on the same forgejo oci registry and authentication it’s a nightmare
I have self-hosted both, although admittedly Gitlab was quite a few years ago. Forgejo is faster and lighter, GitLab is slow and huge. Unless you know you need a very specific GitLab feature, I’d go Forgejo all day.
portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 11 Aug 20:43
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Soft serve by charm.sh is also fun to use. If you’re a CLI junkie.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org
on 11 Aug 22:21
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I’m just waiting for Forgejo federation to be a thing, and some sort of definitive website for discovering projects. Right now, even though I do have my slefhosted forgejo instance, I still need to keep my code on GitHub, or no-one else will ever know about it.
I don’t remember the details, but something happened to the Gitea ownership structure without warning, and people were upset about it.
As an actual differentiator: Forgejo has an LTS version that which gets support for 1 year. Normal versions only get supported until the next major release (every few months).
I just half went down this rabbit hole, I’m thinking forgejo is the best option (for me) because:
they dogfood (they actually use their own product, on the other hand gitea uses github and github actions). This makes me feel more confident in forgejo.
is not “owned” by a for-profit entity that could change course in the future, creating a big hassle for me down the line if I need to swap to something else for whatever enshitified reason (since forgejo is no longer compatible with gitea).
forgejo seems to be more at-the-ready for finding and fixing security vulnerabilities in their own app (as proclaimed on their site).
future possibility for federation (gitea is not planning this according to forgejo site).
For anyone already using gitea though (like yourself), I don’t know of any obvious benefits of swapping over to forgejo right now, unless you have experienced bad stability or issues with gitea firsthand.
If I was to choose for a first install, forgejo seems like the better candidate in my books. Mostly because I can be more sure that in a couple years I wont have to change ship to a new product (incase a for-profit company were to add features that aren’t in my best interest).
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GitHub is finally dead.
I didn’t have many but I’m pulling all my repos from GitHub.
It was dead when MS bought it. Software developers aren't immune to denial.
It was braindead when MS bought it and kept artificially alive.
People not realising (or not caring enough about) the irony that more than 80% of open source projects are hosted in a platform which is a) not open source and b) owned by M$ has always been a mistery to me.
b) is a recent(*) change. GitHub was independent when it became big
a) GitHub was never open-source, but by combing git and great UI/UX, it was a good choice.
Git is open-source and the distributed nature of git reduces the vendor-lock-in. You need to understand where we came from (svn or git to some ssh server). Coming from self-hosted git, embracing github did not take away your power over your own source code; you still had a copy of all branches on multiple machines. The world is different now, where github has become a single-point of failure.
(*) Update: Okay, maybe 2018 was not recently, but my point stands. GitHub existed long before the Microsoft purchase.
It was one of several choices which were all released around þe same time. Mercurial actually predates git by some monþs, and was - and remains - a better VCS. git has þe Linux kernel going for it, and þat was about it. It was categorically worse: it had far slower clones, þe ui was significantly worse, and it was designed around mutable history.
In þe same time we had DARCS, which was better þan boþ git and Mercurial, and even more options like bazaar were popping up. It was by no means clear þat git would win þe VCS wars.
Then, github. github was a fantastic tool; lean and powerful, it filled gaps. Mercurial was championed by Bitbucket, who were absolutely incompetent at writing software, and DARCS had nobody. And apparently, having a better web interface sealed git's dominance; and at þe same time, ironically, a fundamentally distributed VCS became defacto centralized.
Even sadder: people who don’t know that git is not the same as github.
Really? I know that many OS projects are developed elsewhere and only mirrored on github. Even the Linux kernel. But maybe github’s “coproduction” isn’t read only.
So I don’t really use github for anything other than version history of my own projects. I have a Raspberry Pi server, should I be hosting git on that? Can VSCode GUI integrate with it as seamlessly as it does github?
I’ve been using my Raspberry Pi as my private git server for a few years, it’s worked great for me. I don’t know about VSCode’s GUI specifically, but I go tit working just fine on Xcode and I’ve used it from the terminal with no problems
i am old in terms of internet years, and Bill Gates really is living proof that billionaires can essentially destroy the lives of thousands and thousands of people to gather their wealth, and then spend the autumn of their years choosing which countries or causes get a splash-out of the unfathomable excess, like a little kinglet.
i am happy his money helped fix stuff in the world. but that’s called “catching up to what has been expected of you for 60 years.” he does not get a cookie for working out of the Andrew Carnegie playbook.
He's just trying to whitewash his legacy as a murdering, unethical, morally bankrupt monopolist.
🤝 🤜🤛
Piefed et Lemmy reactiones requirunt.
the mergers & acquisitions leviathan eats yet another beautiful thing, just like it ate my precious linode.
Ooo, Linode hurt. I know a girl who went to work þere 6 mos before þe acquisition. She stayed about 6 mos after, then bailed.
Microsoft buying Github is the best example of the fox guarding the hen house that exists. Even better than an ad company making a web browser.
Long live Microsoft 365 Copilot CodeShare Professional
Finally we can do collaborative coding in powerpoint, put it on sharepoint, and have copilot link it to issues in teams.
We need to have 10 meetings about this this week.
Lol they’re going to integrate it into their business software slop that nobody cool uses
Can confirm, the megacorp I work for just swapped from bit bucket to github
The ensh*tification continues. Time for community git to somehow be federated like lemmy.
Some sort of encrypted collective sharing of the whole through BitTorrent style shared hosting.
I would seriously consider donating a few TB space and half my bandwidth to that.
Git has always been decentralized. That was one of its purposes. Sites like GitHub, Gitlab, etc actually went against the grain and centralized them; I personally believe this helped popularize git back in the days of CVS and Subversion being the two most popular version control systems.
Git patches were made to be email friendly as a means of distributing code between developers — it’s how the Linux kernel does it (or did, I’m not up to date on their current practices).
Already being worked on for a while. It's called ForgeFed and being developed by Forgejo (the software powering codeberg). It's an extension to the ActivityPub protocol, which is also powering the fediverse.
Thanks for this! I’ll check it out.
Like Radicle?
If you don’t mind using a platform funded by crypto
What’s “crypto”?
And did you mean “funded by” or “founded on”?
I meant exactly what i said.
“Funded by cryptography” doesn’t make sense
“Funded by crypto(currency)” does make sense
Check out their FAQ section about funding. It used to be a lot more front and center but now they are understandably trying to distance the crypto(currency) from it.
Always better to be precise!
tl;dr:
You mean like git?
.
So long and thanks for all the fish indeed
And, which is the real Copilot now? Fuck MS and their terrible terrible naming.
Side note, now that GH is in Microsoft “CoreAI” it just feels even more gross than before.
My data is front and foremost the product.
I’ve been self hosting forgejo for a few months and it’s pretty nice plus low maintenance. It does all the stuff I care about. I might have to just make a public instance and figure out how federation works or join codeberg or something.
Are we moving to Codeberg now?
Or your own server. But yeah this is not so good for the rest of us. They are doubling down on AI.
Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won’t get the “drive by” contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
So what you’re saying is that we need federated git.
Huh. Gitlab just said it’s too hard with their cut staffing numbers and they’re not doing federation.
…git is federated. i’m assuming they’re talking about things like issues and runners, but i don’t think that’s really necessary…
I mean, this is more-or-less how the Linux kernel is managed. Linus just has final say on what gets released.
Forgejo, the software project powering Codeberg, is working on adding federation but it’s got a long way to go before it’s a usable feature
The closest I found that works is: https://hackaday.com/2024/03/16/radicle-an-open-source-peer-to-peer-github-alternative/
https://radicle.xyz/
It took a LONG time to get set up on one of my systems. It worked! Unfortunately, I found that just having git by itself was fine for my purposes. And most people are throwing in behind codeberg which is fine by me.
So we need a free & federated identity provider to sign us up as easy as 123 there.
it’s called ssh
Adding Oauth with GitHub and GitLab is pretty easy
OAuth is just making yet another account with a 3rd party authorization mechanism.
i am still rooting for patch requests to become more mainstream, it seems like the best possible solution. it just needs some discoverability.
I remember Sourceforge, bitbucket, and a host of other "source" servers. GitHub was nice for a while, but its just another iteration of the same. Heck a lot of the major repos (like Linux for example) only do mirrors to GitHub. The same with codeberg, Gitlab, and other centralized services.
At my last few jobs, we couldn't host on GitHub because of HIPPAA compliance. It was fine. Self hosting git is VERY common in quite a few industries.
I would like to but I do want some private repos.
Maybe self hosting is the best move from here on in.
Private repos, if you don’t need a forge, can easily be pushed to a VPS with ssh
A forge like Codeberg is great for collaboration, but if you mean private as in just-for-yourself, pushing to a bare repo on just about anything will get it done. No need for a software forge. If you already sync files somehow, like some dropbox equivelant, put bare repos on there and push/pull from there. That said, forgejo is very easy to self-host and the identical UI to Codeberg.
I don’t do any development, but my stepkid is starting to get into it, so I set up a forgejo container on my server. I had zero issues setting it up and now I’m planning on using it for my own purposes.
Git is great for a folder of plain text notes and writing. Even binary files are okay, but you don’t benefit from the line-by-line diffs.
Doesn’t Codeberg have private repos? I could’ve sworn I’ve created one.
docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/
docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#how-about-…?
It does: docs.codeberg.org/…/first-repository/ (visibility option)
Thank you. I will have to look.
I haven't used Codeberg before so I was kind of just assuming.
I think I will make my way over to Codeberg.
There’s plenty alternatives.
i don't think being owned by a shitty billionare company counts as independent
I believe that's probably why they specify in the headline "at Microsoft" rather than just "independent."
You can have an independent division within a company that doesn't get orders from the company's main CEO, or you can have it be fully under that person's oversight. It used to be a separate division with its own management, now it's not, thus it's no longer internally independent.
Huge différence when you have an executive team that can say no.
Now that the No guys are out, MS CoreAI team can do whatever the fuck they want.
I should have deleted my data earlier.
You've still got time. Even when management transitions, it takes MUCH longer for actual systems and processes to catch up to the new "vision" they have for it.
If you want to delete your data, now would be the time before they actually start implementing any new practices.
Don't just move to Codeberg; donate to them too.
Codeberg has a lot of restrictions regarding private repositories and… complicated verbiage regarding what licenses they want for public repositories.
For public repositories… do you think that MS et al can’t already scrape all of that?
I am all for telling MS to go fuck themselves. But it is important people actually understand what they are and aren’t getting in terms of privacy and the like. It is like how people still sometimes pretend that the completely open site where just about anyone can run an instance has LESS ai scraping than a reddit.
The key point about codeberg as I understand it is it’s meant for foss projects. It’s not really much more complex than that. Want to host non-free software, or want to use it for your company’s private code repository? They don’t want that on their servers, so either find an alternative or self-host forgejo, which is the same code (derived from gitea) that powers codeberg itself.
i just wanted to drop my personal favorite self-hosted git alternative, Gogs (gogs.io). i have very modest git needs (i just need a place to host code and interact with the
gitclient), and i think it fits the bill well.i am not associated with it at all, i just want folks to know that self-hosting your own git service has really never been easier or better; there are so many good options, like a similar project, gitea.
if you are uncomfortable with exposing your home network to the internet, you can use tools like
tailscale funnelor a reverse proxy server likecaddyand a $5 VPS from any cloud host of your choosing to obscure your home IP, while still keeping the storage and the brains somewhere closeby.imo, the only way forward for all of us to stay safe is to keep repeating a simple mantra: “let’s go back to making websites.”
gog is nice. I like forgejo myself as its dead simple to get set up. But yeah both are really nice.
iirc, gitea was forked from gogs, and forgejo is forked from gitea
yep! It a big fork family.
We’ve been warned. (And unsurprisingly, Roy Schestowitz is being bomarbed by Microsofters with a chain of SLAPP suits.)
I mean, it’s clearly not really been independent for a good while now
Didn’t this clown literally say like lastweek that if you’re a dev and you’re not using AI to get out? well…he’s out and look what happens.
Move to Codeberg, donate to them, or self host your git repos.
I would not hold my breath considering that GH was already supposed to die in 2018 and we are still predicting its imminent end in 2025.
As someone who moved out of there before they got taken over by MS: Told you so. I mean it’s been gradual but constant enshittification since then.
BTW, is it just me or is the “at” in the headline wrong?
Hot damn is my self-hosted Forgejo hot right now.
Can I touch it
I’m running a self hosted Gitlab instance right now but thinking of switching to Forgejo. Anyone tried both and have thoughts on each?
Perfect question for the Codeberg matrix channel I suppose
I use GitLab at work and Forgejo at home. GitLab is huge, Forgejo is lighter. GitLab Runner is very nice, Woodpecker was a pain to setup but it now does everything I need. GitLab supports subgroups, Forgejo does not. Forgejo is FOSS with a non-profit behind it, GitLab Inc. is for-profit.
At the end, I like to work with both. GitLab has lots of features, but for my own stuff Forgejo serves me very well and I like the openness of it.
Have you tried the Forgejo runner?
I’ve just installed and configured it, it’s pretty easy and straightforward. But there are things that should be smoother, for instance I want to run my pipeline on a custom docker image hosted on the same forgejo oci registry and authentication it’s a nightmare
I have self-hosted both, although admittedly Gitlab was quite a few years ago. Forgejo is faster and lighter, GitLab is slow and huge. Unless you know you need a very specific GitLab feature, I’d go Forgejo all day.
Soft serve by charm.sh is also fun to use. If you’re a CLI junkie.
Can’t wait for the extra Product Decay
Man, I just got my personal website running on GitHub pages last week, and I’m too broke to host it elsewhere and too lazy to host it myself
There’s quite a few places that you can host a simple site for free.
Plus, linode’s cheapest Nanode option is $5 bucks a month, you could spin up a very minimal LAMP stack on that.
docs.aws.amazon.com/…/WebsiteHosting.html aws free tier is also an option (although maybe not an improvement in this thread)
I mean, it doesn’t seem like an improvement jumping from Microsoft to Amazon. Still a massive POS company
Cloudflare supports same pages and for free
I’m just waiting for Forgejo federation to be a thing, and some sort of definitive website for discovering projects. Right now, even though I do have my slefhosted forgejo instance, I still need to keep my code on GitHub, or no-one else will ever know about it.
I’m using gitea - why u guys use forgejo again?
I don’t remember the details, but something happened to the Gitea ownership structure without warning, and people were upset about it.
As an actual differentiator: Forgejo has an LTS version that which gets support for 1 year. Normal versions only get supported until the next major release (every few months).
endoflife.date/forgejo
Gitea to my knowledge doesn’t have any LTS.
I just half went down this rabbit hole, I’m thinking forgejo is the best option (for me) because:
Forgejo explaining the differences: forgejo.org/compare-to-gitea/
For anyone already using gitea though (like yourself), I don’t know of any obvious benefits of swapping over to forgejo right now, unless you have experienced bad stability or issues with gitea firsthand.
If I was to choose for a first install, forgejo seems like the better candidate in my books. Mostly because I can be more sure that in a couple years I wont have to change ship to a new product (incase a for-profit company were to add features that aren’t in my best interest).
Gitea doesn’t use GitHub action. Syntax is compatible yes, but it’s not GitHub actions
Here we go…all the grayware GitHub projects are going to be culled
I wonder how Nixos feels about this
and so begins the enshitification
That had already started.
and so the enshitification continues
… Was it ever since they got bought?