Microsoft Fixes Excel Feature That Forced Scientists to Rename Human Genes (gizmodo.com)
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Microsoft Fixes Excel Feature That Forced Scientists to Rename Human Genes::Microsoft now allows users to disable automatic date conversion, which means scientists no longer have to worry about using alternative names for genes.

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autotldr@lemmings.world on 24 Oct 2023 00:05 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Microsoft recently published a blog highlighting new Excel updates that allow users to disable Automatic Data Conversion.

This comes as good news for the scientists, because in recent years they had to rename quite a few human gene names—since Excel was converting them to dates.

There was no option to disable this automatic conversion, and that ended up affecting hundreds of scientific papers.

It led to scientists taking hours out to manually fix the errors and restore the data.

As the name suggests, this checkbox displays a warning message when you’re opening a .csv or .txt file with any of the optional automatic data conversions used.

Just keep in mind that one of the ‘known issues’ with the update that Microsoft flagged in its blog is that the new conversion option doesn’t work when you’re running macros.


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Poach@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 00:18 next collapse

Microsoft fixed something and made their products better!? I don’t believe you.

I wonder if this will fix any of my issues with excel molesting my data. It will either round my part numbers from a BoM making it useless or removing preceding zeros which breaks our inventory importing.

andrewrgross@slrpnk.net on 24 Oct 2023 02:38 next collapse

I had this problem all the time in a former job.

p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 24 Oct 2023 04:38 next collapse

I thought setting a column to string only was already possible.

Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 05:06 next collapse

So did i. Format cell(s) > data type (or something) then just seleect text, or custom or whatever.

MHLoppy@fedia.io on 24 Oct 2023 07:07 next collapse

It is, I've used that to prevent automatic removal of leading zeroes when reading the values of bytes.

Based on the article it seems like it's just a matter of not having to spend the time (and mental overhead) of doing that for all required columns and never slipping up on it (now just set and forget).

LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch on 24 Oct 2023 11:43 collapse

You could already, after the fact, and per cell.

If you’re importing 100,000 rows in, the damage to your data is already done by the time you’re at the step where you can set the field to not convert.

lolcatnip@reddthat.com on 24 Oct 2023 04:57 next collapse

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prole@sh.itjust.works on 24 Oct 2023 07:27 next collapse

I read this meme several times trying to figure out what is supposed to be funny about it… Then I realized it’s from Friends and based on a “joke” from that show. No wonder it wasn’t funny.

Edit: mmm yes, your downvotes only strengthen my resolve. Friends is shit and has always been shit. So unbelievably unfunny.

Pottsunami@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 14:15 collapse

Who shit in your cheerios?

SatyrSack@lemmy.one on 24 Oct 2023 15:52 next collapse

Nowhere here is it implied that they were using it instead of a database. They could run into this issue whether or not they were properly using Excel for what it is for.

lolcatnip@reddthat.com on 24 Oct 2023 17:21 collapse

It’s a well known phenomenon. The title of the article even alludes to it.

SatyrSack@lemmy.one on 24 Oct 2023 22:43 collapse

What about the title?

lolcatnip@reddthat.com on 25 Oct 2023 06:19 collapse

Read the article. IMHO scientists were having problems because they were using it for a task it is ill suited for. The kind of program that is designed for storing large amounts of data and preventing accidental corruption of it is a database.

MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works on 25 Oct 2023 07:31 collapse

I think scientists would use Excel more for finding out information with their data, not for storing it. You know like looking for trends and plotting graphs and whatnot.

lolcatnip@reddthat.com on 25 Oct 2023 11:53 collapse

I think they use it for both. They end up using it as a database because they’re familiar with it from doing data analysis. I’ve also heard of much more egregious examples, like a school using a giant Excel spreadsheet to track the applications of potential students. Need to track up to three references for each student? Make three of each column related to a reference! It’s a really gross way of storing denormalized data without any of the ACID properties databases guarantee.

NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 18:55 collapse

I have a spreadsheet that has been going for 20 years, across 2 companies, and hundreds of people.

Thousands and thousands of lines, going back like an ice core sample. Zooming out is wild.

“What’s this layer?”

“Oh that’s when Terry worked here”

Pottsunami@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 14:15 next collapse

What does excel and incels have in common? Confusing things for a date.

jaybone@lemmy.world on 25 Oct 2023 15:02 collapse

My dad uses excel too.

Eonandahalf@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 20:27 next collapse

Omfg! The amount of time I screamed at Microsoft because I keep forgetting that excel changes the date format for some fucking reason and doesn’t tell you!

bus_go_fast@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 23:21 collapse

oh yeah I FUCKING hate that.

Magister@lemmy.world on 24 Oct 2023 21:33 next collapse

I worked in a company where excel files were used as a database and then read through JavaScript to be processed…

araozu@lemm.ee on 24 Oct 2023 23:39 collapse

At least it’s not a giant macro

MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world on 25 Oct 2023 13:09 collapse

Took long enough. Now let’s see if they can give an option to turn off Lotus 1-2-3 compatibility stuff like single quotes starting a cell being hidden as markup.