They are fully erasing it. But it’s still the same iPhone. With a device ID that is banned.
whynotzoidberg@lemmy.world
on 28 Aug 2024 23:33
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Apple urges developers to not use DeviceCheck for anything beyond basic device verification, and if you’re a developer that’s also misusing it, then you should definitely cease that—there are probably more reliable ways to check whether it’s the same user trying to access an account from a device or not.
I don’t think I care about not being able to erase the device ID. It seems useful to have this, actually, for back-tracing if need be.
Snapchat probs shouldn’t use the DeviceCheck services improperly. But hey, that’s just like my opinion, man.
I can’t see what was posted above anymore, but the DeviceCheck API lets app developers store 2 binary digits (that means 4 different states: 00, 01, 10 or 11) per device on Apple’s servers. So, no, these don’t get erased during a Factory Reset as they’re stored on Apple’s servers. But your phone will.
It never ceases to amaze me how iPhone users think a bump in a version years down the road, keeps them secure while the browser in iOS needs whole god damn system update to upgrade.
You wait for that patch for a Safari vulnerability for whenever Apple feels like it but Android devs can push patch and deploy within days or hours. And also sideload it, if a really important fix would take a long time through regular channels. And also there’s more than 1 browser engine on Android, so all users aren’t vulnerable to the same exploit at the same time.
But hey, keep on swallowing that Apple marketing wholesale though.
Google also split Security Updates from main OS updates so that they can control and push them independently of the manufacturer. So you might miss out on fancy features from Android XX or whatever, but at least vulnerabilities will continue to be patched
I’d rather buy an iPhone instead of a shitty clone that won’t receive updates after 3 years.
You need to look more carefully and androids because there’s plenty that are not clones. Very few all clones so you appear to be selecting for your own bias
If you’re looking at only midrange then sure. Otherwise only Sony is still offering headphone jack on their flagship. Go to GSMarena and see for yourself.
And when it comes to UI, Android is constantly dumbing itself down with no option to opt-out. Remember 9 button layout from however many moons ago that was replaced by thick ugly blocks?
When did Apple release their Foldy phone? An Android manufacturer (spacing on the name) is already getting ready to release a tri-fold phone
In any case, iPhone and Android copy each other all the time. Sometimes it’s Android copying iPhone and sometimes the opposite, it’s just the way it goes in the smartphone industry
Smokeless7048@lemmy.world
on 29 Aug 2024 17:52
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or 10x physical zoom, punchthrough cameras, USBC…
In a lot of ways, iphone just copies android. They are just better at marketing themselves
mrvictory1@lemmy.world
on 30 Aug 2024 05:29
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USB C was mandated by EU. 10x zoom is simply iPhones trailing nehind Android phones.
Smokeless7048@lemmy.world
on 30 Aug 2024 15:33
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im saying that the android broke ground and got there first on all of these, while the iphone likes to pretend its cutting edge.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world
on 29 Aug 2024 00:27
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Apple urges developers to not use DeviceCheck for anything beyond basic device verification, and if you’re a developer that’s also misusing it, then you should definitely cease that—there are probably more reliable ways to check whether it’s the same user trying to access an account from a device or not.
For example, you might use this data to identify devices that have already taken advantage of a promotional offer that you provide, or to flag a device that you’ve determined to be fraudulent.
Oh, ok. Wait, what? But…
Deceptichum@quokk.au
on 29 Aug 2024 05:49
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Yeah? That makes perfect sense, don’t use it beyond a basic device verification, for example verifying if the device has already been used in a promo or stolen.
Those are instances where you need to check the device itself not the user.
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What about Erase All Content and Settings? You seriously can’t fully erase a second-hand phone you bought?! That’s insane
What’s even worse is that Apple is not fully erasing the phones that they refurbish.
What’s worse than that is that Apple isn’t even deleting the photos that you delete.
What’s worse than that is Apple.
They are fully erasing it. But it’s still the same iPhone. With a device ID that is banned.
I don’t think I care about not being able to erase the device ID. It seems useful to have this, actually, for back-tracing if need be.
Snapchat probs shouldn’t use the DeviceCheck services improperly. But hey, that’s just like my opinion, man.
More, not very interesting, info on DeviceCheck services here: developer.apple.com/documentation/devicecheck
APPLE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU AND DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY
What does AMD has to do with your privacy.
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I can’t see what was posted above anymore, but the DeviceCheck API lets app developers store 2 binary digits (that means 4 different states: 00, 01, 10 or 11) per device on Apple’s servers. So, no, these don’t get erased during a Factory Reset as they’re stored on Apple’s servers. But your phone will.
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Sounds more like Apple makes a MAC like string that identifies an iPhone and Snap is creating a database of IDs against Apples wishes.
sorry i meant to reply to another comment under this.
One more great reason not to use Apple phones.
Maybe a reason not to use Snapchat?
Both is good
Snapchat or iPhones? How about I take none?
What good will they do when all Android manufacturers are trying to copy iPhone? No headphone jack, no expandable memory, no removable battery.
I’d rather buy an iPhone instead of a shitty clone that won’t receive updates after 3 years.
It never ceases to amaze me how iPhone users think a bump in a version years down the road, keeps them secure while the browser in iOS needs whole god damn system update to upgrade.
You wait for that patch for a Safari vulnerability for whenever Apple feels like it but Android devs can push patch and deploy within days or hours. And also sideload it, if a really important fix would take a long time through regular channels. And also there’s more than 1 browser engine on Android, so all users aren’t vulnerable to the same exploit at the same time.
But hey, keep on swallowing that Apple marketing wholesale though.
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Funny how my reply to this dimwit comment was removed but telling me to swallow Apple marketing wholesale is totally a-ok.
Fuck mods.
Google also split Security Updates from main OS updates so that they can control and push them independently of the manufacturer. So you might miss out on fancy features from Android XX or whatever, but at least vulnerabilities will continue to be patched
You need to look more carefully and androids because there’s plenty that are not clones. Very few all clones so you appear to be selecting for your own bias
If you’re looking at only midrange then sure. Otherwise only Sony is still offering headphone jack on their flagship. Go to GSMarena and see for yourself.
And when it comes to UI, Android is constantly dumbing itself down with no option to opt-out. Remember 9 button layout from however many moons ago that was replaced by thick ugly blocks?
When did Apple release their Foldy phone? An Android manufacturer (spacing on the name) is already getting ready to release a tri-fold phone
In any case, iPhone and Android copy each other all the time. Sometimes it’s Android copying iPhone and sometimes the opposite, it’s just the way it goes in the smartphone industry
or 10x physical zoom, punchthrough cameras, USBC…
In a lot of ways, iphone just copies android. They are just better at marketing themselves
USB C was mandated by EU. 10x zoom is simply iPhones trailing nehind Android phones.
im saying that the android broke ground and got there first on all of these, while the iphone likes to pretend its cutting edge.
Sounds reasonable…
But then, why would you use it?
Oh, ok. Wait, what? But…
Yeah? That makes perfect sense, don’t use it beyond a basic device verification, for example verifying if the device has already been used in a promo or stolen.
Those are instances where you need to check the device itself not the user.
So getting my iPhone repaired can ban me from a promo that I haven’t used yet? How does that make sense.
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Luckily Apple strictly controls the App Store and will never allow apps to abuse this, right? Right?
Gosh that’s sucks people on iPhone using Snapchat.
Says a guy on an android that doesn’t even know what Snapchat does.
You’re not missing anything.
Good. Snapchat is and always has been such a garbage and useless app.
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The hell is Snapchat?
Like social media for even bigger losers
Why would apple not wipe the device completely on repair or when activated?
Win/Win
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What
Lol okay
The equivalent API on Android gets a new id when the phone is resetted.
Weird that Apple doesn’t do that on refurbished phones