BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip
on 01 Oct 2024 12:52
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Say it with me once again:
Fuck Nintendo.
They’re the Disney of the video game industry.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 13:12
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Yeah, I have zero desire to give them money. Luckily, there are solid options that aren’t them, notably the steam deck for portable gaming and pc/xbox/ps5 for home gaming.
Teils13@lemmy.eco.br
on 01 Oct 2024 20:43
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Console Gaming is a lot less worse than Nintendo, but if you (or someone else) wants to be ‘pure’, they are also not recommended. Consoles are locked-down PCs controlled by the companies, not you, and they abuse their captive consumers by charging multiplayer online, having less promotions (and getting worse with time at that, by eliminating the physical disks), demanding subscriptions with ever more grades and higher prices, tying games to a digital account they can revoke, and not letting the users use the hardware as they see fit in general. PC gaming avoids most or all these issues, with steam excelling in everything (sans the digital license tied to the account, but even that is mitigated because their DRM is weak, and games frequently are found on the high seas if needed), and GoG (and itch.io, etc) respecting completely its customers (offline instalers, completely at your control).
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 14:25
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Theres a reason I havent owned a nintendo console or branded item since the gamecube.
and its not because of money.
its because Nintendo, as a company, is an enormous cunt that I wish would fall into ruin.
HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone
on 01 Oct 2024 18:32
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They’d sue you for playing their games on their hardware if they could
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
on 01 Oct 2024 22:30
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I bought a used Switch and run custom firmware on it. Nintendo execs seething right now cause that’s perfectly legal. I am untouchable
mister_frisbie@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 13:24
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Arin was right.
toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 01 Oct 2024 13:27
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…Recent laws in Japan have criminalized console and game modding, as well as save file editing…
WHAT? why?..what???
neblem@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 13:41
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We really need to push for more right to repair laws and things not produced by the copyright holder (say for 5 years) should lose all copyright protections.
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz
on 01 Oct 2024 14:35
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Because:
Due to an amendment in December 2018 of the Unfair Competition Prevention Act in Japan, certain gaming-related activities and services have now been declared illegal. This includes:
Distribution of tools and programs for modifying game saves
Selling product keys and serials online without the software maker’s permission
Game save and console modding services
As such, sales of products such as Pro Action Replay and Cybergadget’s “Save editor” have been discontinued.
It’s meant to ban sale of hardware devices and services that allow playing pirated games on Switch and such, but due to the way it’s worded it just bans them all.
model_tar_gz@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 15:07
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Can’t wait for Nintendo to sue Microsoft because VS Code can be used to edit save files.
Fijxu@programming.dev
on 01 Oct 2024 16:08
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lol man is just a game. Let me have fun exploring hidden rooms.
No one is committing a crime by modifying their own game save.
friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 17:10
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For some of us, finding ways to cheat IS the game.
In other words, Japan apparently hates property rights.
mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 14:52
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Successful lobbying by Sony and Nintendo I imagine.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 01 Oct 2024 13:34
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Another Nintendo classic. Never given em any money and ain’t about to start.
tabular@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 13:37
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I’m sure Nintendo still make great games, but that’s not enough anymore.
One day I hope more video game embrace open source/free software values.
neblem@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 14:07
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Game engines and servers are great candidates for developers to collaborate their ideas into FOSS projects, but the model is harder to sustain for complete works.
While internet games can have subscription models where you pay them for doing game master type activities, moderation, and access to a hosted game server, static games are more like static art where you run into issues getting food and housing when you make your work output available for free. Crowdfunding / patreoning (in the larger sense of the word, not necessarily the app) creators / collectives can be a way for that to work, and we need to support more creators trying that model if we want to see more of it.
Takumidesh@lemmy.world
on 02 Oct 2024 00:46
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People generally don’t want to make games free because often 99% of what makes a game good is not the software aspect. People like games for interesting mechanics, story, art, and music. Those aren’t things that generally haven’t worked well being free and open
FOSS generally works because people use foss to create end products, and have an incentive to contribute because it benefits them financially (and the side effects is that it benefits others too).
Making a game FOSS rarely benefits the creators since it is the end product, even if it benefits the game or community.
There are cases where it works though, such as rhythm games, where the end product requires immense collaboration, but those often exist on the borderline of acceptability (due to copyrighted music use) and they end up with a need to be foss since licensing 10,000 songs is basically impossible.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 17:38
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Nintendo does still make good games, and they’re the only ones who seem to care about multiple people playing together while sitting on the couch, as opposed to focussing only on online multiplayer across multiple systems.
Which is why it’s so annoying that they do evil shit on the side like this. Nintendo are litigious to an absolutely callous degree. Wankers.
It’s the other way around. Nintendo is a law firm with a game dev hobby.
alphabethunter@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 22:43
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Plenty of couch coop indies out there. Big corpos only care about their money, Nintendo would also jump on the multiplayer wagon if they thought their fanbase would follow them.
neblem@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 13:37
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How would they know it’s emulated and not video captured from a real device? Are they only targeting when emulators are mentioned / shown in the window?
More reasons to switch to owning your content and hosting on your own platform or a PeerTube instance instead of only hosting on YouTube / Twitch - you can actually fight the takedown notice in court instead of having to accept that YouTube doesn’t. Not a legal expert but this seems like a winnable fair use case if you can prove you own the game legally and are using your own rom dump.
Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world
on 01 Oct 2024 13:43
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Lots of channels getting strikes are showing anbernic and steam decks and the like running the roms featuring Nintendo games being emulated on said device and not just a video capture of the game
hedgehog@ttrpg.network
on 01 Oct 2024 18:45
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It doesn’t matter if it’s emulated legally or not. They can issue a takedown for showing gameplay captured from an NES hooked up to a CRT if they want.
A fair use defense has to be defended in court, and it’s not just about whether you’re right but also about whether you can afford to fight.
It’s also not certain that a fair use defense would fly. One of the elements for determining whether fair use is market impact, and I suspect that Nintendo’s lawyers would argue that demoing that their games can be emulated - even if the specific demoed games are not being sold - has a negative market impact, since it makes people who might buy a Switch and a Nintendo Online membership to play the official emulated games less likely to do so.
floofloof@lemmy.ca
on 01 Oct 2024 13:43
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Nintendo once again treats its fans with contempt and hostility. It’s not a good look.
empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 01 Oct 2024 14:58
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And Nintendo fans will respond by obediently lining up to immediately buy the Switch 2 and every single re-re-re-rereleased game for it the second it launches.
turtletracks@lemmy.zip
on 01 Oct 2024 15:06
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If anyone was curious, Echoes of Wisdom is totally playable on the Steam Deck
ZeroTwo@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 19:42
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Just got it up and running today. Runs perfectly with a few tweaks and mods.
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world
on 23 Oct 2024 21:49
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Just finished it today on yuzu, only issue I had was some of the coloring on the rifts in the overworld. I used the 18.1.0 firmware for anyone that wants to know
saltesc@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 14:06
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“Nintendo targets free marketing that’s much more effective than their really, really weird ads featuring skinwalkers from an alternate reality attempting to appear like normal humans doing the gaming.”
LodeMike@lemmy.today
on 01 Oct 2024 14:24
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 16:12
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P Diddy
stellargmite@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 19:06
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Barbara Streisand
LodeMike@lemmy.today
on 01 Oct 2024 14:23
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Yet another abuse of the DMCA. They seem to think the takedown process applies where any copyright infringement takes place. It only applies if the material is copyrighted by them. Even if the game was pirated and someone in the video explicitly said that, DMCA takedowns would NOT apply.
roofuskit@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 20:48
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Again, why every false claim should come with a severe penalty.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
on 01 Oct 2024 18:12
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They are on a witch hunt, but for what? Or is it a case of windmills?
lustyargonian@lemm.ee
on 02 Oct 2024 00:32
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Maybe they fear switch 2 sales would plummet if emulation and PC handhelds stick around when they launch. I disagree coz the two attract different kinds of gamers, but they aren’t cool like that.
nl4real@lemmy.world
on 01 Oct 2024 18:48
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Have fun not having my money!
kambusha@sh.itjust.works
on 01 Oct 2024 21:05
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Mari-uh-oh
DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works
on 01 Oct 2024 21:16
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Really hope that when one day Nintendo dies due to their own incompetence/negligence, everything they’ve ever done becomes lost media and they fade into complete obscurity.
If they don’t want to have their shit preserved then so be it, they’ll be forgotten and the world will move on without them.
zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com
on 02 Oct 2024 01:48
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It’s easier to resell if it isn’t preserved
lustyargonian@lemm.ee
on 02 Oct 2024 00:31
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Nintendo declaring war of its own.
Mandy@sh.itjust.works
on 08 Oct 2024 10:21
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those fossils need to be brought into the dirt and replaced be people half their age man
threaded - newest
Say it with me once again:
Fuck Nintendo.
They’re the Disney of the video game industry.
Yeah, I have zero desire to give them money. Luckily, there are solid options that aren’t them, notably the steam deck for portable gaming and pc/xbox/ps5 for home gaming.
Console Gaming is a lot less worse than Nintendo, but if you (or someone else) wants to be ‘pure’, they are also not recommended. Consoles are locked-down PCs controlled by the companies, not you, and they abuse their captive consumers by charging multiplayer online, having less promotions (and getting worse with time at that, by eliminating the physical disks), demanding subscriptions with ever more grades and higher prices, tying games to a digital account they can revoke, and not letting the users use the hardware as they see fit in general. PC gaming avoids most or all these issues, with steam excelling in everything (sans the digital license tied to the account, but even that is mitigated because their DRM is weak, and games frequently are found on the high seas if needed), and GoG (and itch.io, etc) respecting completely its customers (offline instalers, completely at your control).
Theres a reason I havent owned a nintendo console or branded item since the gamecube.
and its not because of money.
its because Nintendo, as a company, is an enormous cunt that I wish would fall into ruin.
They’d sue you for playing their games on their hardware if they could
I bought a used Switch and run custom firmware on it. Nintendo execs seething right now cause that’s perfectly legal. I am untouchable
Cease and Dissist - Nintendo Diss Track
Soooo they’re banning 99% of pokemon content?
99.999999…%
Arin was right.
WHAT? why?..what???
We really need to push for more right to repair laws and things not produced by the copyright holder (say for 5 years) should lose all copyright protections.
Because:
It’s meant to ban sale of hardware devices and services that allow playing pirated games on Switch and such, but due to the way it’s worded it just bans them all.
Can’t wait for Nintendo to sue Microsoft because VS Code can be used to edit save files.
lol man is just a game. Let me have fun exploring hidden rooms. No one is committing a crime by modifying their own game save.
For some of us, finding ways to cheat IS the game.
In other words, Japan apparently hates property rights.
Successful lobbying by Sony and Nintendo I imagine.
Another Nintendo classic. Never given em any money and ain’t about to start.
I’m sure Nintendo still make great games, but that’s not enough anymore.
One day I hope more video game embrace open source/free software values.
Game engines and servers are great candidates for developers to collaborate their ideas into FOSS projects, but the model is harder to sustain for complete works.
While internet games can have subscription models where you pay them for doing game master type activities, moderation, and access to a hosted game server, static games are more like static art where you run into issues getting food and housing when you make your work output available for free. Crowdfunding / patreoning (in the larger sense of the word, not necessarily the app) creators / collectives can be a way for that to work, and we need to support more creators trying that model if we want to see more of it.
People generally don’t want to make games free because often 99% of what makes a game good is not the software aspect. People like games for interesting mechanics, story, art, and music. Those aren’t things that generally haven’t worked well being free and open
FOSS generally works because people use foss to create end products, and have an incentive to contribute because it benefits them financially (and the side effects is that it benefits others too).
Making a game FOSS rarely benefits the creators since it is the end product, even if it benefits the game or community.
There are cases where it works though, such as rhythm games, where the end product requires immense collaboration, but those often exist on the borderline of acceptability (due to copyrighted music use) and they end up with a need to be foss since licensing 10,000 songs is basically impossible.
(Shout out Quaver)
Nintendo does still make good games, and they’re the only ones who seem to care about multiple people playing together while sitting on the couch, as opposed to focussing only on online multiplayer across multiple systems.
Which is why it’s so annoying that they do evil shit on the side like this. Nintendo are litigious to an absolutely callous degree. Wankers.
I feel like Nintendo has this huge army of full time lawyers who have to continuously find enemy to stay employed
It’s the other way around. Nintendo is a law firm with a game dev hobby.
Plenty of couch coop indies out there. Big corpos only care about their money, Nintendo would also jump on the multiplayer wagon if they thought their fanbase would follow them.
How would they know it’s emulated and not video captured from a real device? Are they only targeting when emulators are mentioned / shown in the window?
More reasons to switch to owning your content and hosting on your own platform or a PeerTube instance instead of only hosting on YouTube / Twitch - you can actually fight the takedown notice in court instead of having to accept that YouTube doesn’t. Not a legal expert but this seems like a winnable fair use case if you can prove you own the game legally and are using your own rom dump.
Lots of channels getting strikes are showing anbernic and steam decks and the like running the roms featuring Nintendo games being emulated on said device and not just a video capture of the game
It doesn’t matter if it’s emulated legally or not. They can issue a takedown for showing gameplay captured from an NES hooked up to a CRT if they want.
A fair use defense has to be defended in court, and it’s not just about whether you’re right but also about whether you can afford to fight.
It’s also not certain that a fair use defense would fly. One of the elements for determining whether fair use is market impact, and I suspect that Nintendo’s lawyers would argue that demoing that their games can be emulated - even if the specific demoed games are not being sold - has a negative market impact, since it makes people who might buy a Switch and a Nintendo Online membership to play the official emulated games less likely to do so.
Nintendo once again treats its fans with contempt and hostility. It’s not a good look.
And Nintendo fans will respond by obediently lining up to immediately buy the Switch 2 and every single re-re-re-rereleased game for it the second it launches.
If anyone was curious, Echoes of Wisdom is totally playable on the Steam Deck
Just got it up and running today. Runs perfectly with a few tweaks and mods.
Just finished it today on yuzu, only issue I had was some of the coloring on the rifts in the overworld. I used the 18.1.0 firmware for anyone that wants to know
“Nintendo targets free marketing that’s much more effective than their really, really weird ads featuring skinwalkers from an alternate reality attempting to appear like normal humans doing the gaming.”
Who said this?
Jesus of Nazareth
- Michael Scott
P Diddy
Barbara Streisand
Yet another abuse of the DMCA. They seem to think the takedown process applies where any copyright infringement takes place. It only applies if the material is copyrighted by them. Even if the game was pirated and someone in the video explicitly said that, DMCA takedowns would NOT apply.
Again, why every false claim should come with a severe penalty.
They are on a witch hunt, but for what? Or is it a case of windmills?
Maybe they fear switch 2 sales would plummet if emulation and PC handhelds stick around when they launch. I disagree coz the two attract different kinds of gamers, but they aren’t cool like that.
Have fun not having my money!
Mari-uh-oh
Really hope that when one day Nintendo dies due to their own incompetence/negligence, everything they’ve ever done becomes lost media and they fade into complete obscurity.
If they don’t want to have their shit preserved then so be it, they’ll be forgotten and the world will move on without them.
It’s easier to resell if it isn’t preserved
Nintendo declaring war of its own.
those fossils need to be brought into the dirt and replaced be people half their age man
even than i doubt much would change