Really? Here in Germany I only ever heard that its stupid the UK left, but that’s basically it. Didn’t notice any hate.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com
on 18 Feb 2024 17:29
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From the outside (the US in my case) it looks like there’s a lot of hate, but maybe it’s just some well deserved schadenfreude. Everyone loves to laugh at Brexit voters.
themurphy@lemmy.world
on 18 Feb 2024 17:58
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I wouldn’t call it hate by any means. We more feel sorry for them. Even though over 50% did it to themselves.
Maybe, but why would you punish someone thats hitting themselves?
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
on 18 Feb 2024 18:10
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I’m not so sure. The UK was a big contributor to the EU, not just monetarily, but it also gave the EU more soft power.
It was only Germany that contributed more, and in fairness, Germany also benefits more from the EU as well, although much of that is purely that Germany already had a healthy industrial sector, a central Europe location, and better transport links to other EU nations.
The UK and EU both lost out due to Brexit. And to think it all happened because of a stupid political gamble by Cameron. Infuriating.
And besides, I think it’d set a good precedent for the EU - look, even a country as wealthy and well-connected as the UK left then decided it was a terrible idea. Clearly it must be good to be in the EU! That’s one hell of a boast.
That said, geopolitics is geopolitics. Various countries would be trying to carve out any little advantage they can get.
You’re right and it is a real problem. But consider that the EU is a huge contributor to the stability of Europe, and the world as a whole. War between EU member states is unthinkable, that wasn’t the case 80 years ago.
Kissaki@feddit.de
on 18 Feb 2024 14:56
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tl;dr/highlight (to the titled fine):
While the verdict isn’t public until its announcement “early next month”, the report suggests Apple unfairly prevented apps from suggesting payment methods outside of the App Store.
Spotify submitted their (first) complaint in 2019.
As it always does in politics. However if sth happens it’s still worth it
tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world
on 18 Feb 2024 16:54
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Not enough, this is toll tax for them.
lolcatnip@reddthat.com
on 18 Feb 2024 17:27
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Is Apple making over €500m in profit in the EU specifically as a result of anticompetitive practices involving music?
I’m all for punishing white collar crime severely, but the goal for the EU seems to be to set the fines so they’re not especially punitive, but still high enough that the offender would have saved money by just playing by the rules. That’s a damn sight better than what we usually get in the US.
merde@sh.itjust.works
on 18 Feb 2024 20:44
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fines will get bigger if Apple doesn’t correct its “anticompetitive practices”
Mataresian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 18 Feb 2024 21:14
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I am also wondering where that amount comes from. Though I do not think it should be based on profit. A company can also be unprofitable on purpose in a region in order to destroy the competition an gain market share. Then after conquering the market they increase the prices again.
In this case I suppose it also be difficult to quantify the fine. Of course the duration of the anti-competitive behaviour should also be taken into consideration and apples low willingness to better itself. Is there any article explaining the 500m euro?
selokichtli@lemmy.ml
on 18 Feb 2024 17:20
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Ah, yes, the mushroom eating the fungus.
anlumo@lemmy.world
on 18 Feb 2024 18:55
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How much would that be for a middle class person in relation? $10?
abhibeckert@lemmy.world
on 19 Feb 2024 00:22
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This isn’t the only fine though. It’s one of several they’ve been hit by in recent years and more might be coming. They are also getting bigger over time.
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I fucking love the EU. I wish we were still in it. 😞
You’re welcome back if you like.
Actually I’m unsure the EU would allow the UK to rejoin without hefty consequences. It would set a bad precedent.
I’m sure they would be allowed back in, why not? But I doubt they’d get all their special treatements back.
Any of the EU nations I believe have veto authority on adding new members. And there’s a lot of hate for the UK.
Really? Here in Germany I only ever heard that its stupid the UK left, but that’s basically it. Didn’t notice any hate.
From the outside (the US in my case) it looks like there’s a lot of hate, but maybe it’s just some well deserved schadenfreude. Everyone loves to laugh at Brexit voters.
I wouldn’t call it hate by any means. We more feel sorry for them. Even though over 50% did it to themselves.
65.24% of the eligible voters to be exact, if you add the eligible voters who did not vote in the referendum to the leave voters [1].
It’s more like we’re having fun on them for being dumb ass bitches, but we still don’t want bad to happen to them.
Imagine your dumbass cousin you grew up with, who constantly does stupid shit like fucks a toaster
That is oddly specific.
Ever met a Brit?
Never one who was that into toasters.
This counts?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toast_sandwich
Weren’t the French pretty salty about the UK? I recall seeing some articles on punishing the UK for leaving
Maybe, but why would you punish someone thats hitting themselves?
I’m not so sure. The UK was a big contributor to the EU, not just monetarily, but it also gave the EU more soft power.
It was only Germany that contributed more, and in fairness, Germany also benefits more from the EU as well, although much of that is purely that Germany already had a healthy industrial sector, a central Europe location, and better transport links to other EU nations.
The UK and EU both lost out due to Brexit. And to think it all happened because of a stupid political gamble by Cameron. Infuriating.
And besides, I think it’d set a good precedent for the EU - look, even a country as wealthy and well-connected as the UK left then decided it was a terrible idea. Clearly it must be good to be in the EU! That’s one hell of a boast.
That said, geopolitics is geopolitics. Various countries would be trying to carve out any little advantage they can get.
You absolutely would, but not on the same terms as before. Those special privileges Thatcher negotiated are gone forever.
The same EU that wanted to force backdoors and spyware on all devices by LAW. Luckily it didnt go true.
You’re right and it is a real problem. But consider that the EU is a huge contributor to the stability of Europe, and the world as a whole. War between EU member states is unthinkable, that wasn’t the case 80 years ago.
tl;dr/highlight (to the titled fine):
Spotify submitted their (first) complaint in 2019.
Took quite a few years…
As it always does in politics. However if sth happens it’s still worth it
Not enough, this is toll tax for them.
Is Apple making over €500m in profit in the EU specifically as a result of anticompetitive practices involving music?
I’m all for punishing white collar crime severely, but the goal for the EU seems to be to set the fines so they’re not especially punitive, but still high enough that the offender would have saved money by just playing by the rules. That’s a damn sight better than what we usually get in the US.
fines will get bigger if Apple doesn’t correct its “anticompetitive practices”
I am also wondering where that amount comes from. Though I do not think it should be based on profit. A company can also be unprofitable on purpose in a region in order to destroy the competition an gain market share. Then after conquering the market they increase the prices again.
In this case I suppose it also be difficult to quantify the fine. Of course the duration of the anti-competitive behaviour should also be taken into consideration and apples low willingness to better itself. Is there any article explaining the 500m euro?
Ah, yes, the mushroom eating the fungus.
How much would that be for a middle class person in relation? $10?
This isn’t the only fine though. It’s one of several they’ve been hit by in recent years and more might be coming. They are also getting bigger over time.
It’s not like the EU will just give up after one fine.
As an economic union they have a lot of power in cases like this.
They could ban them entirely if they wanted.
In the meantime, Apple rakes in exponentially more and more money.
Well, I can afford to be fined 10$ several times in a few years
Pffft. Loose change for apple.