They also explain in the video that you basically have to assume that at times the entire towing capacity load will fall on the tongue weight, like when you hit a pothole or speedbump and your trailer starts rocking back and forth a bit.
Everything might be fine and dandy when the load is more or less balanced on the trailer wheels while parked, but when driving, bumps and shit happen, and that towing tongue, back end of the vehicle, and suspension system better be able to handle it.
Any which way you look at it, the front fell off and the back fell off. All around the dumpstertruck isn’t even half worth a shit compared to real work trucks.
Then the video is plain wrong in regards to tongue vs tow weight. No truck or trailer manufacturer anywhere in the world adheres to that.
I commonly tow a triple axle trailer that weighs 12,000 pounds with my GMC Sierra 2500HD. That much weight would snap the receiver off and bend the frame if the hitch had to support it all.
The CT is for clowns but that video is stupid and should be disregarded.
over_clox@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 18:27
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Cyberdump broke, other truck didn’t. Same test.
However relevant or not you want to think of it, the results speak for themselves.
“The cybertruck being held together by glue was not in my 2025 bingo cards” hahahaha
FYI they have an entire section where they explain the difference between the trailer weight and tongue weight; complete with a little toy car and trailer demonstration of when the weight would be transferred from the trailer to the tongue.
Also, he says you want 90% of the weight in the trailer, but there are circumstances where the weight is transferred directly to the tongue.
I’ve watched my father’s back axel break, twice when towing. Once on his Jeep Wrangler and the other truck I forgot. First was towing a boat up a steep incline (an example used in the video cough cough) and the second on the highway with a double jet ski trailer, and two jet skis, when he went over a large pot hole on the highway (another axample in the video cough cough). He fully expected his vehicle, in any sense of the word, tow hitch included, to bear the weight of what he was towing btw. And no my father is not an idiot, at least in this regard. He would explain the difference of the weights and off setting things to the back of trailers blah blah blah all the time to me.
And to say, no one expects a thing to do the job that thing is made to do is a dumb comeback. Try that one on Belichik and see how it goes.
“Come on coach, no one expects me to be able to throw a football, that would be stupid!” 🙄
Buuuuuttttt you would know that if you watched the video instead of blindly reacting.
Also, what is the point of fighting this?? Being paid by Nazi car to say “nuh uh, it won’t fall apart, that’s a stupid test and those people are stupid…science is dumb!”
And to say, no one expects a thing to do the job that thing is made to do is a dumb comeback.
It’s NOT expected to. The SAE has literal standards for this and nowhere in them are you going to find that the tongue needs to support the entirety of the towed weight. In fact it’s quite the opposite. None of you know this though because you’ve never bothered reading them.
Also, what is the point of fighting this?
Because people read this bullshit and then repeat it just like you’re doing now. Tons of weight rolling down the road is dangerous. As always the regulations are literally written in blood.
You absolutely should NOT expect your tow hitch to support the entire weight of the trailer. It’s NOT in the SAE specs and frankly there’s no passenger vehicle in existence that will tolerate that without dramatically exceeding it’s payload rating. You probably don’t now what is either but when you exceed it you get broken axles, inability to steer, inability to stop, tires blowing up, suspension failure, and structure failure.
Ever seen a truck pulling a camper and the trucks headlights are aimed at the sky while the hitch is nearly dragging the ground? That’s what happens when you have too much tongue weight. You can see that’s it wrong and yet here’s another army of people trying to argue that its just fine because they listened to another youtuber who has no idea WTF they’re talking about.
No one is arguing SAE standards. YOU are the one who brought that up.
And your argument now, is that the video, warning people not to trust the trailer hitch and general build of a cybertruck, is incorrect, and that you are chiming in for ‘public safety’ so they (me?) don’t ‘believe’ the video and should NOT consider the weight they’re towing with their cyberdump??
Seems that the video WAS a public safety warning and you were arguing against it before, yet now you are arguing the opposite because NOT using the trailer on a cybertruck is dangerous and gets people killed?? The exact opposite of the video.
Also, you’re saying people like me, whatever that means, repeat “it”, personal stories about trailering mishaps, to further warn people about underestimating their tow hitch / vehicals physical capacity so that things, like what happened to my father, doesn’t happen because that IS what kills people?
If all this sounds too confusing, it’s because you flipped your original argument and/or completely misunderstand what anyone else is saying.
We all agree that most of the time, the tongue weight won’t exceed the load.
We all agree that if/when that happens, catastrophic events can/will occur.
Which is what you seem to have said, yet for some reason have even confused yourself enough into unwittingly making the same argument.
Bahahahahaha
You can’t make this stuff up folks!
FYI a list of things that weigh 10,000lbs below (petty sure no one expects to be towing any of these things with a normal truck). But physics does make it possible for weight and energy, to be more than that of sheer weight, when outside forces occur e.g. trailer swaying, bumpy roads.
The best example of this is fishing line. You can get 20lb fishing line and a 10lb fish can break it. From jumping, fighting, sudden movements…etc.
Apologies to the “general public”, if my family’s trailering horror stories somehow encouraged you to say ‘fuck it’ to things like towing and / or tongue capacities and go tow that african elephant you’ve been dying to buy…?
They went to great lengths to explain that and why a trailer load may transiently exceed it and used a 20 year old wrecked truck as a reference.
The other concern they mentioned was aluminum characteristics over time. Brand new strength will not equal strength over time. So 10k pounds is the trucks strength at its absolute best, but it will degrade over time. Also the mix of metals may cause a galvanic reaction to degrade it over time. No one else in the industry will use aluminum for the frame, for good reason
They even admit it fared better than they thought, but it’s another example of Tesla ignoring engineering principles and the predicted consequences being demonstrated.
Listen, the CT is a joke and I’m not defending it. I’m pushing back on provably false information regarding towing and what to expect from a tow hitch. People get killed believing this kind of bullshit. You absolutely SHOULD NOT expect a tow hitch to be able to stand up the vehicles tow capacity rating. Ever. Even transiently.
They went to great lengths to explain that and why a trailer load may transiently exceed it
Transiently, as in for mere moments, exceeding the 1,000lb hitch rating yes, absolutely. Expecting that the hitch will suddenly experience (and hold) the entirety of the tow capcity rating? Absolutely not. That’s the exact opposite of the SAE spec. You’d also dramatically exceed the payload rating of every passenger vehicle in existence if it happened.
The other concern they mentioned was aluminum characteristics over time.
Better not look at the suspension of any passenger vehicle made in the last 30 years then.
No one else in the industry will use aluminum for the frame
The CT is unibody, it doesn’t have a frame. This isn’t me being pedantic either. The difference between the two is fairly important.
They even admit it fared better than they thought
The CT exceeded it’s rating by 8 times. Yes the Dodge 2500 did better but so what? It too was well over it’s hitch and payload ratings and if you tried to drive it with that kind of weight you’d quickly crash because you couldn’t steer or stop.
That’s still over $1000 a month to buy a fucking car
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 11:27
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It’s more of a self-igniting dumpster.
simplejack@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 20:47
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If you’re dumb, and you can get $15-17k from selling an existing vehicle, you can get a 3 year lease down to delta of $500-$600.
Telsa was pushing leases pretty hard because a lot of EV incentives are lease-only. I’ll bet they duped a lot of people into putting a shitload down for a lease.
acosmichippo@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 03:13
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the vast majority of them i see around my area have branding decals plastered all over them. no doubt they are being used as a business expense or some other dumb shit.
Holy fuck they still work? Can you run any modern apps on them? Does the 3D give you a headache?
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 19:13
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Updates stopped at a special KitKat-based FireOS version, so most modern apps are likely broken. Dynamic Perspective never gave me a headache - it’s actually pretty well implemented - but it does get boring after ten to fifteen minutes.
I think I’ll charge one up and see how it’s doing!
pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz
on 22 Mar 14:24
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What’s dynamic perspective?
OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml
on 22 Mar 16:31
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They had a sort of 3d effect to them using the 4 front cameras which was a neat gimmick
pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz
on 22 Mar 16:33
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The corner cameras (of which only 2 would be in use at any given time) were IR cameras used for head tracking to determine the user’s position and gaze in order to render the 3D interface effect.
pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz
on 22 Mar 17:02
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A great deal of time and effort was put into making the system very power efficient and performant. Its battery life was actually commensurate with the other flagship phones with which it was intended to compete.
Of course, it could have been even better if the 3D feature weren’t there.
I don’t have any spare SIM cards lying around, but I do recall doing a brief test a couple years ago, and apart from some problems with SMS message formats, things seemed to work fine.
Unless you’re referring to WiFi, to which the answer is of course, as that’s how the time and date got set correctly. On boot it somehow thought it was an hour earlier and eight days ahead, but still on a Friday; I forgot to check which year, though.
I’m not sure that really says much. I hate swasticars as much as y’all do, but like, $400 phone versus $100K car. Makes sense the fire phone sold better. And I mean, it wasn’t being pushed by a literal Nazi so that helps.
Of course. Yet another Tesla recall. In a few months, we will all be here again
bus_factor@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 18:32
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This one is different, though. Most of them are just OTA software updates, the physical ones aren’t as common. Although I think there was an issue with how they secured the top of the gas pedals on the Cybertruck earlier.
salacious_coaster@infosec.pub
on 21 Mar 18:24
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And nobody who is familiar with how technology companies operate was shocked to hear that the 100k incel camino is literally held together with cheap glue.
thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 18:28
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Cheap piece of junk
SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 18:38
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I can’t help but think “Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly” with this news
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 17:52
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You can step up the scale of solvent molecular weights until you find one that gives the desired result, but I’m going to conjecture that regular old acetone will probably be quite sufficient.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 22 Mar 17:54
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Neat. On a serious note, i do not personally recommend doing this; that shit flying off on a highway could kill somebody.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 17:58
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Sam: I hope there was nobody on that bus.
Max: Nobody we know, at least.
DemBoSain@midwest.social
on 21 Mar 19:28
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The difference with the old trim is that the new one will have a better adhesive assembly and “a stud welded to the stainless panel with a nut clamping the steel panel to the vehicle structure.”
It’s a good thing Elon doesn’t think “exposed screw heads are cool.”. This could have been fixed with a carbide drill bit and some self-tapping screws.
Just send them all to the scrap yard, fucking heaps of junk.
52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org
on 21 Mar 21:17
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I wonder if those protesters vandalizing Teslas know this is their big opportunity? Insurance companies insuring auto shops are fewer in number and more selective than those serving the general population. If these trucks were damaged while waiting for repairs, we might witness insurance companies altogether dropping coverage for shops. Without insurance these places will find it difficult to continue existing.
I have questions about what auto shops you think are doing recalls because it’s only Tesla’s service centers are going to be legally allowed to perform the recall (that’s how it works for every automaker). So it’s the same place they’re already going to protest (in most cases) and the same insurance. Regardless, the recall isn’t an “insurance thing per se” because Tesla the company is the insurance in this case. They will be footing to bill for any and all repairs done under recall. And more than likely the recalled vehicles won’t be sitting around the shop or lot waiting for parts because it’s up to consumers who will absolutely take their vehicle and leave if parts aren’t in stock.
It might be different with Tesla but most dealerships are independent from the company manufacturing the vehicles. Dealerships typically also run the service shop and have to carry their own insurance.
Tesla is different. They don’t have franchises. They haven’t granted them anywhere. They run what’s called a Direct to Consumer Business Model. That means they own and operate their own service centers and Galleries/Showrooms. That means it’s just Tesla Motors operating everything and carrying the insurance etc.
They do have approved third party body shops. Also mobile service vans. Not sure if this can be done via mobile service but in the past they've done things like computer upgrades.
Every dealer pretty much uses third party body shops. But this doesn’t require a body shop. It’ll more than likely be performed by a Tesla automotive technician at a Tesla service center when parts become available.
Ford has a very similar recall on their Ford Explorers. There is a trim piece on the A-pillar exterior that becomes detached and can fly off. But there’s is plastic because they aren’t complete morons. Either way, they’re talking about better glue and one piece of attachment hardware. That’s well within the capabilities of an automotive technician.
ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world
on 21 Mar 23:47
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Could this be the worst designed car ever made? I really wish we could have a Top Gear episode on it.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 00:21
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James did a test drive and he seemed to kind of like it, it was on drive tribe I think.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
on 22 Mar 07:48
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I would probably like it too if i didn’t have to pay for it and keep it and maintain it. These cars aren’t on the streets anymore in 10 years. They will never be street legal in a non shit hole country
MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 11:49
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Yep. He wasn’t really reviewing the nuts and bolts, just the drive experience. I didn’t get the impression he got a ton of time with it and only spent an afternoon puttering around. It felt below his standard honestly for thoroughness.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 17:50
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Top Gear itself was not kind to the Tesla Roadster when Clarkson reviewed it back in 2008 or whatever it was, though.
It appears multiple panels on the truck are just glued on which is crazy. Will Tesla just slather on bunch more glue and call it good? That seems like a bandaid over a pretty major problem. I’ll be sure there is a large distance between my car and one of these shitty trucks on the road in case they decide to shed some large panels.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world
on 22 Mar 11:25
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According to the article I read yesterday they are adding stronger glue and a bolt.
The same bolt. Put it in. Run through the QA test (which is just Bobbie trying to rip it off with his bare hands). If Bobbies’ hands bleed before the panel comes off, they mark the test as passed, remove the bolt and move on to the next one.
One bolt is probably find if the panel isn’t catching wind. But if that thing gets damaged it’s likely to shear off at speed. Stay away from dented cyber trucks!
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com
on 22 Mar 16:39
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Small text on the bottom of purchase agreement:
~This vehicle is not meant to be used as transportation in an external environment, any use outside of a garage or small enclosed campus is outside of the scope of this vehicle’s design and should be avoided.~
Staying away from cybertrucks is just good sense anyway. They’re being driven by morons and are NOT safe to be in a collision with. S’why they’re not road legal in the EU - they’re too dangerous to things they collide with.
Glue is commonly used in vehicle manufacturing to bond panels together. It’s typically stronger than welding, and is often used in the vehicle’s structural pieces as well.
The problem with the Cyberdumpster is that they used shitty glue.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml
on 22 Mar 10:50
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Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip
on 22 Mar 20:49
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Between this and the door falling off a Boeing airplane, not so sure we should be all hot to make everything in 'merica 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
tacobellhop@midwest.social
on 22 Mar 23:08
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Worth noting that both of these companies have essentially blank checks from the government and use it as a funnel for taxpayers to shareholders who then dont pay taxes. It’s a Ponzi scheme that just happens to make airplanes and shit people actually need.
But are too scared to nationalize.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee
on 22 Mar 23:20
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Boeing (and McDonnell Douglas before them) actually made good planes when engineers ran the show. Then, the finance bros took over.
It really is a metaphor for the current state of America.
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 22 Mar 23:31
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why would the tesla engineers commit terrorism like this
Akuchimoya@startrek.website
on 23 Mar 02:08
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A little over a year ago, a guy tried to ask me out and I’m the process said a few dumb things in an attempt to impress me. The dumbest of them all was that he was planning to buy a Cybertruck as his next vehicle. By the time he’d said this, I’d already long made up my mind about this guy. Mind, this was the period of time when Elon was just an asshole and hadn’t gone full Nazi yet, but even then, this dude’s choice of vehicle told me I’d made the right choice.
Theseadays I wonder if that guy ever got his idiot truck, and, whether he did or not, if he’s changed his mind about it.
threaded - newest
youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM
I’m not saying it wasn’t safe, it just wasn’t as safe as the other ones lololol thanks for this
How do I know exactly what video that is without a preview and before clicking the link? 😂🤣
Because the front fell off.
I’d like to say, that’s not typical.
Also, apparently the back fell off too…
youtube.com/watch?v=ubUXNSWGth0
What a fucking literal rolling dumpster 🤦♂️
Max tongue weight for a Cybertruck is 1100 lbs. They put almost ten times on it before it broke. It was fun, but it's not a valid test.
Incorrect, their listed maximum towing capacity is indeed stated to be 11,000 pounds (4,990 kilograms)
Feel free to check for yourself…
www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/
Tongue weight and towing capacity are two different things.
They also explain in the video that you basically have to assume that at times the entire towing capacity load will fall on the tongue weight, like when you hit a pothole or speedbump and your trailer starts rocking back and forth a bit.
Everything might be fine and dandy when the load is more or less balanced on the trailer wheels while parked, but when driving, bumps and shit happen, and that towing tongue, back end of the vehicle, and suspension system better be able to handle it.
Any which way you look at it, the front fell off and the back fell off. All around the dumpstertruck isn’t even half worth a shit compared to real work trucks.
Then the video is plain wrong in regards to tongue vs tow weight. No truck or trailer manufacturer anywhere in the world adheres to that.
I commonly tow a triple axle trailer that weighs 12,000 pounds with my GMC Sierra 2500HD. That much weight would snap the receiver off and bend the frame if the hitch had to support it all.
The CT is for clowns but that video is stupid and should be disregarded.
Cyberdump broke, other truck didn’t. Same test.
However relevant or not you want to think of it, the results speak for themselves.
“The cybertruck being held together by glue was not in my 2025 bingo cards” hahahaha
FYI they have an entire section where they explain the difference between the trailer weight and tongue weight; complete with a little toy car and trailer demonstration of when the weight would be transferred from the trailer to the tongue.
Also, he says you want 90% of the weight in the trailer, but there are circumstances where the weight is transferred directly to the tongue.
I’ve watched my father’s back axel break, twice when towing. Once on his Jeep Wrangler and the other truck I forgot. First was towing a boat up a steep incline (an example used in the video cough cough) and the second on the highway with a double jet ski trailer, and two jet skis, when he went over a large pot hole on the highway (another axample in the video cough cough). He fully expected his vehicle, in any sense of the word, tow hitch included, to bear the weight of what he was towing btw. And no my father is not an idiot, at least in this regard. He would explain the difference of the weights and off setting things to the back of trailers blah blah blah all the time to me.
And to say, no one expects a thing to do the job that thing is made to do is a dumb comeback. Try that one on Belichik and see how it goes.
“Come on coach, no one expects me to be able to throw a football, that would be stupid!” 🙄
Buuuuuttttt you would know that if you watched the video instead of blindly reacting.
Also, what is the point of fighting this?? Being paid by Nazi car to say “nuh uh, it won’t fall apart, that’s a stupid test and those people are stupid…science is dumb!”
Seriously…what’ the point…
It’s NOT expected to. The SAE has literal standards for this and nowhere in them are you going to find that the tongue needs to support the entirety of the towed weight. In fact it’s quite the opposite. None of you know this though because you’ve never bothered reading them.
Because people read this bullshit and then repeat it just like you’re doing now. Tons of weight rolling down the road is dangerous. As always the regulations are literally written in blood.
You absolutely should NOT expect your tow hitch to support the entire weight of the trailer. It’s NOT in the SAE specs and frankly there’s no passenger vehicle in existence that will tolerate that without dramatically exceeding it’s payload rating. You probably don’t now what is either but when you exceed it you get broken axles, inability to steer, inability to stop, tires blowing up, suspension failure, and structure failure.
Ever seen a truck pulling a camper and the trucks headlights are aimed at the sky while the hitch is nearly dragging the ground? That’s what happens when you have too much tongue weight. You can see that’s it wrong and yet here’s another army of people trying to argue that its just fine because they listened to another youtuber who has no idea WTF they’re talking about.
It’s wrong and it gets people killed. Stop it.
Getting away from the point. Again.
Test for test, the dumb aluminum box failed.
No one is arguing SAE standards. YOU are the one who brought that up.
And your argument now, is that the video, warning people not to trust the trailer hitch and general build of a cybertruck, is incorrect, and that you are chiming in for ‘public safety’ so they (me?) don’t ‘believe’ the video and should NOT consider the weight they’re towing with their cyberdump??
Seems that the video WAS a public safety warning and you were arguing against it before, yet now you are arguing the opposite because NOT using the trailer on a cybertruck is dangerous and gets people killed?? The exact opposite of the video.
Also, you’re saying people like me, whatever that means, repeat “it”, personal stories about trailering mishaps, to further warn people about underestimating their tow hitch / vehicals physical capacity so that things, like what happened to my father, doesn’t happen because that IS what kills people?
If all this sounds too confusing, it’s because you flipped your original argument and/or completely misunderstand what anyone else is saying.
We all agree that most of the time, the tongue weight won’t exceed the load.
We all agree that if/when that happens, catastrophic events can/will occur.
Which is what you seem to have said, yet for some reason have even confused yourself enough into unwittingly making the same argument.
Bahahahahaha
You can’t make this stuff up folks!
FYI a list of things that weigh 10,000lbs below (petty sure no one expects to be towing any of these things with a normal truck). But physics does make it possible for weight and energy, to be more than that of sheer weight, when outside forces occur e.g. trailer swaying, bumpy roads.
The best example of this is fishing line. You can get 20lb fishing line and a 10lb fish can break it. From jumping, fighting, sudden movements…etc.
Needless to say, you do this thing called “moving the goal post”.
I said I did NOT like red. But now that it doesn’t work for me, in this current situation, I like red. And I’ve always liked red. 🙄
We are all literally saying don’t tow too much!!! Even you!!
But especially in a cyberdump
So again… what is the point of arguing the SAME POINT!!! Or NOT to heed the warning the video is putting out???
You talked yourself into a circle!!!
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
This made my day.
Thank you.
Apologies to the “general public”, if my family’s trailering horror stories somehow encouraged you to say ‘fuck it’ to things like towing and / or tongue capacities and go tow that african elephant you’ve been dying to buy…?
They went to great lengths to explain that and why a trailer load may transiently exceed it and used a 20 year old wrecked truck as a reference.
The other concern they mentioned was aluminum characteristics over time. Brand new strength will not equal strength over time. So 10k pounds is the trucks strength at its absolute best, but it will degrade over time. Also the mix of metals may cause a galvanic reaction to degrade it over time. No one else in the industry will use aluminum for the frame, for good reason
They even admit it fared better than they thought, but it’s another example of Tesla ignoring engineering principles and the predicted consequences being demonstrated.
Yup. Amongst other things, but it won’t matter.
There’s no critical thinking happening…
Listen, the CT is a joke and I’m not defending it. I’m pushing back on provably false information regarding towing and what to expect from a tow hitch. People get killed believing this kind of bullshit. You absolutely SHOULD NOT expect a tow hitch to be able to stand up the vehicles tow capacity rating. Ever. Even transiently.
Transiently, as in for mere moments, exceeding the 1,000lb hitch rating yes, absolutely. Expecting that the hitch will suddenly experience (and hold) the entirety of the tow capcity rating? Absolutely not. That’s the exact opposite of the SAE spec. You’d also dramatically exceed the payload rating of every passenger vehicle in existence if it happened.
Better not look at the suspension of any passenger vehicle made in the last 30 years then.
The CT is unibody, it doesn’t have a frame. This isn’t me being pedantic either. The difference between the two is fairly important.
The CT exceeded it’s rating by 8 times. Yes the Dodge 2500 did better but so what? It too was well over it’s hitch and payload ratings and if you tried to drive it with that kind of weight you’d quickly crash because you couldn’t steer or stop.
Is this a sketch or a real interview?
Edit. It’s a sketch. I was hoping there was a real politician like that lol
You’re wishing for more idiots in this day and age?
The new models are being fixed by “nut clamping”
Can I be added to the recall? 🥹
Only if you take me with you!!
Ow.
Is this a service rendered to the owners or the vehicles?
“We are not robbers.”
“Ok, you can rub them.”
Thats absolutely meaningless in the face of steel plates adhered to a plastic frame.
This guy clamps
This has exposed the sales numbers, and impressively, it’s sold even worse than the Fire Phone.
46k trucks sold so far. For comparison, rivian sells about that many of their trucks every year.
I still can’t believe that 46k people are both that stupid and have 100k to spend.
You can get an 84 month auto loan these days if you’re dumb enough to do it.
I’m curious, does Tesla have its own financing division that gives out these loans?
They do.
That’s still over $1000 a month to buy a fucking car
It’s more of a self-igniting dumpster.
If you’re dumb, and you can get $15-17k from selling an existing vehicle, you can get a 3 year lease down to delta of $500-$600.
Telsa was pushing leases pretty hard because a lot of EV incentives are lease-only. I’ll bet they duped a lot of people into putting a shitload down for a lease.
the vast majority of them i see around my area have branding decals plastered all over them. no doubt they are being used as a business expense or some other dumb shit.
A van would be so much better for advertising. Much more space to put a logo and text plus it’s higher up and therefor more easily visible.
You could put a blinking neon light ad all over the entire night sky, but if someone farted, you would still look around and ask “who farted?”.
The Tesla is so stupid ugly that it attracts attention the same way.
I saw a local restaurant with its branding on it the the other day. Well, there’s one restaurant I never need to try.
There are huge tax breaks for…
Buying a car for your business.
Buying a car that has a 6ft bed for your business
Buying a car with 6000+ lb curb weight for your business.
Buying an electric car for your business.
Buying a car that is wrapped or decorated to promote your business.
When you put them all together, the CT is basically 100% tax write off.
Go to Boulder CO and you’ll see plenty of rich morons with that kinda cash. I saw multiple swastitrucks a day over there
To be fair, Rivian is selling as many trucks as they can produce. Rivian could sell more vehicles if they had the line capacity.
Tesla is an older company with more mature manufacturing lines, and they can make more Trucks, but no one wants them.
I forgot the Fire Phone was a thing.
I will never forget, and I will hold onto my Fire Phones (yes, plural) until the day I die.
Holy fuck they still work? Can you run any modern apps on them? Does the 3D give you a headache?
Updates stopped at a special KitKat-based FireOS version, so most modern apps are likely broken. Dynamic Perspective never gave me a headache - it’s actually pretty well implemented - but it does get boring after ten to fifteen minutes.
I think I’ll charge one up and see how it’s doing!
What’s dynamic perspective?
They had a sort of 3d effect to them using the 4 front cameras which was a neat gimmick
What had a 3d effect? Selfies?
The entire UI.
The corner cameras (of which only 2 would be in use at any given time) were IR cameras used for head tracking to determine the user’s position and gaze in order to render the 3D interface effect.
Oh wow, sounds impressive, thanks
It was way ahead of its time, and nobody wanted it.
It also added zero value to the device, but it’s what Jeff wanted.
Totally sounds like a waste of computing power and therefore battery life, but the concept of fascinating
A great deal of time and effort was put into making the system very power efficient and performant. Its battery life was actually commensurate with the other flagship phones with which it was intended to compete.
Of course, it could have been even better if the 3D feature weren’t there.
Update: Still Alive
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Wow, that’s fucking awesome. Can you put it on a network?
I don’t have any spare SIM cards lying around, but I do recall doing a brief test a couple years ago, and apart from some problems with SMS message formats, things seemed to work fine.
Unless you’re referring to WiFi, to which the answer is of course, as that’s how the time and date got set correctly. On boot it somehow thought it was an hour earlier and eight days ahead, but still on a Friday; I forgot to check which year, though.
Daaang, I forgot about the 4 (!!!) front cameras. Super creepy. Like, one is already bad and accepted but four…
The four cameras on the corner were lo-rez IR cameras used exclusively for head tracking for the Dynamic Perspective feature.
I’m not sure that really says much. I hate swasticars as much as y’all do, but like, $400 phone versus $100K car. Makes sense the fire phone sold better. And I mean, it wasn’t being pushed by a literal Nazi so that helps.
The phone was $650 at launch, carrier-locked to AT&T, and was pushed by Jeff Bezos.
Of course. Yet another Tesla recall. In a few months, we will all be here again
This one is different, though. Most of them are just OTA software updates, the physical ones aren’t as common. Although I think there was an issue with how they secured the top of the gas pedals on the Cybertruck earlier.
They sprayed lube on the pedal and glue on the cover, the lube caused the glue to fail.
Keep tuned for the first cyber truck spontaneous combustion and the recall for battery concerns
“We have toytota hylux at home”
Toyota hylux at home…
And nobody who is familiar with how technology companies operate was shocked to hear that the 100k incel camino is literally held together with cheap glue.
Cheap piece of junk
I can’t help but think “Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly” with this news
“The front fell off.”
So what i gather is there’s probably a readily available solvent to dissolve the glue and make any Swasticar Wankpanzer fall the fuck apart?
It’s called cold weather.
So, liberal use of dry ice FTW?
You can step up the scale of solvent molecular weights until you find one that gives the desired result, but I’m going to conjecture that regular old acetone will probably be quite sufficient.
Neat. On a serious note, i do not personally recommend doing this; that shit flying off on a highway could kill somebody.
It’s a good thing Elon doesn’t think “exposed screw heads are cool.”. This could have been fixed with a carbide drill bit and some self-tapping screws.
Panels on that shit are glued together, so I guess they got ahold of stronger glue.
Only because they wanted to huff it. The panel thing was just a coincidence.
Elmer’s glue mixed with Ketamine
Based Tesla makes a car that vandalizes itself
Just send them all to the scrap yard, fucking heaps of junk.
I wonder if those protesters vandalizing Teslas know this is their big opportunity? Insurance companies insuring auto shops are fewer in number and more selective than those serving the general population. If these trucks were damaged while waiting for repairs, we might witness insurance companies altogether dropping coverage for shops. Without insurance these places will find it difficult to continue existing.
I have questions about what auto shops you think are doing recalls because it’s only Tesla’s service centers are going to be legally allowed to perform the recall (that’s how it works for every automaker). So it’s the same place they’re already going to protest (in most cases) and the same insurance. Regardless, the recall isn’t an “insurance thing per se” because Tesla the company is the insurance in this case. They will be footing to bill for any and all repairs done under recall. And more than likely the recalled vehicles won’t be sitting around the shop or lot waiting for parts because it’s up to consumers who will absolutely take their vehicle and leave if parts aren’t in stock.
It might be different with Tesla but most dealerships are independent from the company manufacturing the vehicles. Dealerships typically also run the service shop and have to carry their own insurance.
Tesla is different. They don’t have franchises. They haven’t granted them anywhere. They run what’s called a Direct to Consumer Business Model. That means they own and operate their own service centers and Galleries/Showrooms. That means it’s just Tesla Motors operating everything and carrying the insurance etc.
They do have approved third party body shops. Also mobile service vans. Not sure if this can be done via mobile service but in the past they've done things like computer upgrades.
Every dealer pretty much uses third party body shops. But this doesn’t require a body shop. It’ll more than likely be performed by a Tesla automotive technician at a Tesla service center when parts become available.
Ford has a very similar recall on their Ford Explorers. There is a trim piece on the A-pillar exterior that becomes detached and can fly off. But there’s is plastic because they aren’t complete morons. Either way, they’re talking about better glue and one piece of attachment hardware. That’s well within the capabilities of an automotive technician.
Could this be the worst designed car ever made? I really wish we could have a Top Gear episode on it.
James did a test drive and he seemed to kind of like it, it was on drive tribe I think.
I would probably like it too if i didn’t have to pay for it and keep it and maintain it. These cars aren’t on the streets anymore in 10 years. They will never be street legal in a non shit hole country
Yep. He wasn’t really reviewing the nuts and bolts, just the drive experience. I didn’t get the impression he got a ton of time with it and only spent an afternoon puttering around. It felt below his standard honestly for thoroughness.
Top Gear itself was not kind to the Tesla Roadster when Clarkson reviewed it back in 2008 or whatever it was, though.
I'm pretty sure it was on his Gin channel
Yes actually, I do recall him making a plug about his gin now that you mention it! Thank you!
Whislindiesel made short work of one of these cars, absolutely glorious
The videos if anyone is interested:
youtu.be/PK_EJ3DyiiA
youtu.be/Yn4XzbMf9nY
I mean, how many times have they recalled these same, like, 5,000 trucks? This is at least the third massive recall.
Is it worse than the Delorean?
Here is a guy explaining the problem. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WldSl3HGr8
It appears multiple panels on the truck are just glued on which is crazy. Will Tesla just slather on bunch more glue and call it good? That seems like a bandaid over a pretty major problem. I’ll be sure there is a large distance between my car and one of these shitty trucks on the road in case they decide to shed some large panels.
According to the article I read yesterday they are adding stronger glue and a bolt.
That is also what this article says.
Although a single bolt is going to need to be quite strong to hold down a long piece of steel exposed to high speed wind regularly.
Let’s hope they won’t cheap out on those bolts. Thankfully cheaping out on everything is not an habit they have, right?
Nono. Not bolts.
A. Bolt.
The same bolt. Put it in. Run through the QA test (which is just Bobbie trying to rip it off with his bare hands). If Bobbies’ hands bleed before the panel comes off, they mark the test as passed, remove the bolt and move on to the next one.
They probably had some office assistant order a pallet of bolts from Home Depot.
This is the company that glued the accelerator pedal on, you think they know what grade of bolt they need?
One bolt is probably find if the panel isn’t catching wind. But if that thing gets damaged it’s likely to shear off at speed. Stay away from dented cyber trucks!
Start denting cybertrucks you say?
Impossible! They are indestructible
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/eae2d265-ca4d-4de9-861a-4423c1ebc910.webp"> the bolt 😅
High speed wind hitting a car? A chance in a million!
Small text on the bottom of purchase agreement: ~This vehicle is not meant to be used as transportation in an external environment, any use outside of a garage or small enclosed campus is outside of the scope of this vehicle’s design and should be avoided.~
Staying away from cybertrucks is just good sense anyway. They’re being driven by morons and are NOT safe to be in a collision with. S’why they’re not road legal in the EU - they’re too dangerous to things they collide with.
Glue is commonly used in vehicle manufacturing to bond panels together. It’s typically stronger than welding, and is often used in the vehicle’s structural pieces as well.
The problem with the Cyberdumpster is that they used shitty glue.
The side is falling off.
And this time it is indeed typical
This is why we don’t make them out of paper, or paper derivatives.
Every wankpanzer ever? I had to check it wasn’t the onion. It’s not the onion.
It’s 18 months old and falling apart, literally.
This reminds me of “Clarke and Dawe - The Front Fell Off” skit XD
Waiting for trump to send off musk to death camp for being a terrorist.
I think the current power dynamic in the whitehouse may make the opposite more likely.
That’s because Tesla is a data collection company, not a car manufacturer 😂
Amazing. :)
Even the melted ones? 😄
Between this and the door falling off a Boeing airplane, not so sure we should be all hot to make everything in 'merica 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Worth noting that both of these companies have essentially blank checks from the government and use it as a funnel for taxpayers to shareholders who then dont pay taxes. It’s a Ponzi scheme that just happens to make airplanes and shit people actually need.
But are too scared to nationalize.
Boeing (and McDonnell Douglas before them) actually made good planes when engineers ran the show. Then, the finance bros took over.
Tesla factories are like Amazon warehouses.
It really is a metaphor for the current state of America.
why would the tesla engineers commit terrorism like this
A little over a year ago, a guy tried to ask me out and I’m the process said a few dumb things in an attempt to impress me. The dumbest of them all was that he was planning to buy a Cybertruck as his next vehicle. By the time he’d said this, I’d already long made up my mind about this guy. Mind, this was the period of time when Elon was just an asshole and hadn’t gone full Nazi yet, but even then, this dude’s choice of vehicle told me I’d made the right choice.
Theseadays I wonder if that guy ever got his idiot truck, and, whether he did or not, if he’s changed his mind about it.
Haha