I.R.S. Deploys Artificial Intelligence to Target Rich Partnerships
(www.nytimes.com)
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I.R.S. Deploys Artificial Intelligence to Target Rich Partnerships::The tax agency is opening examinations into large hedge funds, private equity groups, real estate investors and law firms.
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The Internal Revenue Service has started using artificial intelligence to investigate tax evasion at multibillion-dollar partnerships as it looks for ways to better police hedge funds, private equity groups, real estate investors and large law firms.
is using some of the $80 billion allocated through last year’s Inflation Reduction Act to target the wealthiest Americans and tackle the kinds of cases that had become too complex and cumbersome for the beleaguered agency to handle.
steady while holding on to some of the Inflation Reduction Act money that lawmakers had agreed to rescind as part of the debt limit deal, while House Republicans are pushing for far deeper cuts that would eat into the tax agency’s enforcement budget.
said it plans to increase scrutiny of digital assets as a vehicle for tax evasion and investigate how high-income taxpayers are using foreign bank accounts to avoid disclosing their financial information.
Mr. Werfel suggested that the technology would be deployed to identify “compliance threats” that have been difficult to spot and that it would help the agency reduce unnecessary audits.
Mr. Werfel warned that additional cuts to its annual budgets would require him to redirect money meant for upgrading the agency so that it can carry out basic tasks, and that ultimately taxpayers would bear the brunt of it.
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Oh boy. Expect the misinformation spigot to be opened full blast on Twitter by the Muskrat.
How long until this technology is redirected from the hedge fund tax evaders and instead pointed towards the middle and working class?
Here’s the great thing: we don’t care, as long as the wealthy pay their share.
This system is so broken it’s a wonder the guillotines haven’t made a comeback already.
The guillotines haven’t made a comeback because nobody can get enough PTO together at one time to build one in a single sitting. Also, medical insurance is tied to our jobs, and it can quickly get financially crippling if you don’t have that.
No one can afford guillotines in this economy
Fuck it, we’ll do it the old fashioned way. Grabs a handsaw
By curiosity how many members of the working class do you know do tax evasion, by example ?
Personally? None, at least none that care to admit it.
But when companies like Amazon or Apple can get away with not paying taxes, then that means that the rest of us have to pay to pick up the slack.
Probably a good portion do it unintentionally, but the ROI would be really low: “hey Mr. Mechanic, you made a mistake and owe us $17”
as opposed to “hey Mr. Hedge Fund Mgr, you made a ‘mistake’ and owe us $17,000”
They keep making mistakes and telling me that I owe $17,000.
The only thing that comes to my mind would be tipped service staff not reporting tips as income.
Tax evasion, no. Fraud oh yeah most definitely. This year’s current tax scheme is claiming the fuel tax credit, previously it was self employment COVID relief credits. The IRS is going after them and don’t trust tax preparers who say they can get you a much bigger refund. They usually are committing fraud.
You’d be surprised. Small business owners are notorious for running non-deductible personal expenses through their business for example when they really shouldn’t. Plus some super egregious stuff I can’t begin to get into here. It is trivially easy and the state/fed gov can’t begin to crack down for lack of resources. These are your tradesmen like plumbers and electricians, boutique shop owners, salons, food/catering, smaller self employed professionals like doctors, lawyers, therapists, dentists, etc. It’s sort of a grey area and there’s wiggle room for sure, and I try not to let my clients get away with all of it. But I do look the other way a lot and just plug my nose and sign it and push it through when I’m in a hurry, which is basically always. Some people are just maniacs though, it’s really staggering, idk how they sleep at night. Smaller numbers than a hedge fund manager making $50 mil, but it adds up real quick, and fraud is fraud IMO.
The IRS never stopped going after middle and working class tax cheats. They stopped going after the very rich because their budget was cut to the bone and they couldn’t afford to fight a protracted lawsuit and possibly lose.
The reason they’re going after them now is because funding the IRS, at least on paper, brings in more revenue. So, it was a way for the Senate to get the Inflation Reduction Act fully paid for without adding debt or changing tax rates. (Same with allowing Medicaid/Medicare negotiate prescription drug prices. There’s a lot of money in America’s couch cushions.)
They stopped going after the very rich because they were tactically underfunded by a corrupt administration that explicitly wanted them to stop going after the very rich. That administration then got voted out of office, so the rules are different now.
You’re correct, but it didn’t happen under Trump. It was under Reagan I believe. It’s never been fixed.
America has never been fixed since Reagan
It’s crazy how many problems in this country can be tied back to either Reagan’s fuck ups not being fixed or FDR not going far enough.
I mean, they kind of already do that.
All the taxes I manage to evade (buying/selling a couple hundred dollars worth of stuff from Kijiji/marketplace) wouldn’t really affect me.
But scraping hedge funds and professional tax dodgers would put a ton of cash into public funds, so I’m all for it.
Kind of hate that slippery slope argument of yours “if they can take millions from greedy billionaires, imagine how many millions they’ll take from you!” is a shit argument that defends serious tax evasion.
First they came for the billionaires, and I did nothing, ‘cause fuck em’ that’s why.
Eat the rich
In Canada they definitely do - I was asked for verification on about half of my tax returns. One was a pretty big oops that I thought they might come down on me for.
In the US, I think they are much more random with what they audit.
That’s how it’s always been.
Finally AI does something useful
Well, this is either going to save a fortune or cost a fortune. I place my bet on the latter. I don’t think AI is good enough yet.
The former. Definitely the former. Catching all the data so they can go after the higher wage classes will finally allow more penalties that will pay for this in spades. Historically the IRS has gone after low wage earners who still claim 5+ credits on their tax returns, because it was easier. That’s usually like $4k per person.
The hedge funds and their bullshit trading algos better be scared. That shit is propped up on “market maker” bullshit. Theives, the lot of them