Report: Microsoft's latest Windows 11 24H2 update breaks SSDs/HDDs, may corrupt your data (www.neowin.net)
from floofloof@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 15:01
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db2@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 15:44 next collapse

Actual footage of Windows 11 24H2 corrupting your data

tanisnikana@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 15:55 next collapse

If I was a librarian and my card catalog started exploding, I would have a fit. Those are not easy to put together.

atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works on 18 Aug 2025 18:23 collapse

Yeah but luckily by the mid 80s it was completely digitized and just there in the basement for reference.

0x0@lemmy.zip on 18 Aug 2025 16:40 next collapse

That’s not my data.

Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 14:43 collapse

what movie is this from? I feel like I’ve seen it before many, many years ago.

frostysauce@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 17:44 collapse

The original Ghostbusters.

Melonpoly@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 16:01 next collapse

They’re using Grok to translate?

einlander@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 16:16 collapse

They probably used copilot to write the code. It compiled so they shipped it.

ogeist@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 18:13 collapse

Take that deniers!

helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 16:03 next collapse

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ObsidianZed@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 18:43 collapse

“You have destroyed the very thing you swore to become” also works.

helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 22:46 collapse

I suppose, but reading the article, it seems this was related to a windows defender update. In other words the anti-virus became malware, again.

riskable@programming.dev on 18 Aug 2025 16:05 next collapse

Linux users: “See what we mean?”

Windows users: “La la la! I can’t hear you! Losing my data is clearly better than having to learn something new!”

Ugurcan@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 17:00 next collapse

So you mean losing your data on Linux not easy as rm -rd?

BluescreenOfDeath@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 17:21 next collapse

“You mean if I delete data, then it’s gone? No matter what platform?”

InnerScientist@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 17:32 next collapse

rm -rf is way more difficult than doing literally nothing, yes.

Sidhean@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 17:44 next collapse

Updating windows is not a command that deletes your data

suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 18:00 collapse

I mean, it shouldn’t be, but apparently it is

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 18 Aug 2025 18:15 next collapse

Not with GNU rm, no.

ChicoSuave@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 19:01 next collapse

Linux treats users like a person and Windows treats users like children. Be the person Linux trusts you to be.

bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com on 18 Aug 2025 21:22 collapse

Windows treats users like a product.

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today on 18 Aug 2025 21:53 collapse

Cause we are to them. We are nothing more than monetized eye balls.

enumerator4829@sh.itjust.works on 18 Aug 2025 21:14 next collapse

$ su -
# rm -rf —no-preserve-root /

Should do the trick. (Obviously don’t try it unless you know what you are doing and know what may happen when it hits your EFI variables.)

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 23:51 next collapse

There is a difference between telling your computer to delete something and the computer complying, and doing a windows update only to find it’s corrupted your data or straight up killed your disk.

I’m not going to get angry when I tell my PC to delete a file and it actually does it.

LupertEverett@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 07:12 collapse

I love how people immediately downvoted you to hell for this lmfao.

Like yeah, the guys on the comments: only people use rm -rf, absolutely no scripts use it at all. Something like motherfucking STEAM absolutely didn’t remove people’s data that one time. And hey, their so beloved –no-preserve-root didn’t prevent that from happening. :D

I love and currently use Linux, but my GOD some Linux people are annoying.

If something like del C:\*.* somehow ended up deleting your D: drive too, we wouldn’t stop hearing the end of it, but here on Linux systems, it is a perfectly normal thing, and people somehow DEFEND this atrocity lmfao.

rm shouldn’t exist at its current form. Full stop.

chunes@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 20:08 next collapse

I have literally never had one of these things happen to me before. I’m pretty sure people just make them up for clicks at this point.

riskable@programming.dev on 18 Aug 2025 20:20 next collapse

Oh?

en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_features_removed_in_Wi…

Serinus@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 04:55 collapse

the 16-bit Windows on Windows subsystems, which allowed 32-bit versions of Windows to directly run 16-bit DOS and Windows programs

Jesus, what a scam. Why does anyone put up with this?

KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 05:25 next collapse

Windows 11 only comes in 64 bit flavors so this would be a weird feature to leave in place.

Serinus@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 05:50 collapse

I’m not using any software that doesn’t have an upward swipe gesture for jumplists. How can people stand losing features like this?

null@lemmy.nullspace.lol on 19 Aug 2025 10:59 collapse

I’m also gonna sarcastically cherry-pick!

Serinus@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 13:13 collapse

Are you? I didn’t see it. If you’re trying to make the opposite point, why don’t you cherry pick the other way. Let’s see what you’ve got or if this headline is just bullshit.

I’m currently running 50/50 windows/Ubuntu. I’m no Windows fanboy. But I’m also a software dev and I understand deprecating useless shit, something Windows doesn’t do much of.

TunaLobster@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 10:19 next collapse

IMO, the Windows Subsystems is kind of cool. WSL 1 used it too.

en.wikipedia.org/…/File%3AWindows_2000_architectu…

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BehavioralClam@lemmy.ml on 19 Aug 2025 00:36 next collapse

This was an issue that appeared when writing heavy files to disks (50gb+), so people that werent doing it were safe. And don’t worry, its a matter of when LOL. I was a windows “virgin” until one day my system drive appeared encrypted and locked by bitlocker when I never activated it, nor had any recovery key.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 22:25 collapse

That’s not how it works lol. It doesn’t just randomly encrypt your hdd and lock you out lol. User error.

Hubi@feddit.org on 19 Aug 2025 09:01 collapse

I know people who were affected when a Windows 10 update just straight up deleted all personal files in 2020.

forbes.com/…/new-windows-10-update-starts-causing…

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 22:18 collapse

Cool story, I’m sure no one using Linux has ever lost any data ever.

11111one11111@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 22:56 collapse

Linux users: “See what we mean?”

Windows users: “La la la! I can’t hear you! Losing my data is a standard Windows feature!”

otter@lemmy.ca on 18 Aug 2025 23:30 collapse

Your account seems to be marked as a bot, you can fix that in your user settings if it was unintentional

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 22:16 collapse

This comment of theirs reads like a comment by a Lemmy upvote farming bot tbf

SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip on 18 Aug 2025 17:18 next collapse

Again? I swear I saw this a month or two ago.

Dragomus@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 17:42 next collapse

Bah, each time I want to do the manual upgrade from 23h2 I have to postpone it again due to some stupid bug or annoying feature that makes me reconsider doing it.

RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 17:56 next collapse

How’s that vibe coding working out for ya?

MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip on 18 Aug 2025 18:14 next collapse

I think it has more to do with the new atomic update and their now-usual not-testing aproach.

PlexSheep@infosec.pub on 18 Aug 2025 18:35 next collapse

Didn’t they proudly say how much of windows is AI generated slop code a few months ago?

Wispy2891@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 22:44 collapse

It looks like finally after almost ten years they will complete the dark mode on windows. But some buttons will still be with the light theme, they ran out of ai credits and need to wait for next month to replenish the free tier

FalseTautology@lemmy.zip on 18 Aug 2025 19:06 next collapse

Is this an automatic update that I can stop ?

treadful@lemmy.zip on 18 Aug 2025 19:18 collapse

The company managed to resolve the issue later and has deployed a fix.

altphoto@lemmy.today on 18 Aug 2025 19:19 next collapse

It got me!. I turn crypto services off and it keeps turning back on. What a pain in the ass!

0ndead@infosec.pub on 18 Aug 2025 19:47 next collapse

“We looked around and could not find other reports resembling such situations. The problem has been reported by a Japanese PC builder and enthusiast and some of the comments on the thread seem to indicate that others there may be experiencing similar issues. So it could be a region-specific thing too”

Buddahriffic@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 21:22 next collapse

Can’t they just offer access to your data back at a discounted rate compared to what they charge their data partners for it?

tekato@lemmy.world on 18 Aug 2025 21:25 next collapse

The reporter’s own “test” proves this is caused by faulty drives unable to sustain the speed they advertise, not Windows.

muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works on 18 Aug 2025 22:20 next collapse

Are you suggesting the drives are accessed more slowly before this update?

ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 00:34 collapse

Maybe ? I know R/W speeds used to be a lot slower in Windows than Linux but I thought they fixed that a few years ago.

kadup@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 01:31 collapse

That’s mostly related to Windows Defender intercepting reads and writes and hasn’t truly been fixed.

Sometimes it’s literally faster to read a database using WSL than the native system.

tatterdemalion@programming.dev on 19 Aug 2025 11:21 collapse

Why would IO speed be a factor in whether a user’s data is corrupted? That just sounds like a race condition.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 03:06 next collapse

Yet again, I trot out this phrase, as a response to yet another massive Windows fuckup/scandal:

… People are still using Windows?

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 05:07 next collapse

I use “incontrol” to stop feature updates. And I used win11debloat. Havent had a problem since. In dogshit bloat, no dog shit copilot, no forced updates, no privacy destroying telemetry. Just me and MY windows machine like the old days.

InnerScientist@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 05:12 next collapse

Well yes, but actually this is a security update

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 22:53 collapse

Thank god Ive got control of those too, huh? I offered you all a nice little short cut to make your lives a little easier. And instead, you all moan. Jesus christ.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 22:34 collapse

And I’m sure you’ll blame Microsoft/windows when things don’t work as expected and you get strange errors because you disabled core features using dodgy software that you don’t understand but think you don’t need them.

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 22:51 collapse

lol Another Reddit user, with nothing to offer but projection. Being in the game 20+ years, matey. If theres problems, I have skills to solve them. Just because you dont know your arse from your elbow, doesnt mean everyone else is the same. Go cry about MS’s spyware some place else.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 20 Aug 05:59 collapse

🤣 literally everything you said is wrong but good try I guess. Only 20+ years? Amateur.

You’re the one crying about their “spyware”, not me. How do you not see that?

Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 06:21 collapse

Im not crying about it, as I dont have any of it. Youre the one crying, and shilling, and painting anyone who doesnt bend the knee to them is going to cry without all those amazing core features… Absolute reddit moment.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 20 Aug 12:17 collapse

Cool imagination you got there kid.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 05:20 next collapse

Look at it from the flip side: Linux is so bad people would rather deal with this than deal with Linux.

GreenShimada@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 05:25 collapse

Meh - people are creatures of habit. To quote a family member “I’m too old to learn a new operating system!” Any change, even over to Mac OS, is rejected by most Windows users. Even when 99.9% of what they do is in a web browser.

Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz on 19 Aug 2025 05:52 collapse

Every time I try switching to Linux I run into some issue I just cant fix and go back to windows, currently pirated win10 IOT LTSC. Last time it was getting the USB ports to recognize an ESP32, the time before that graphics card drivers, the time before that it would either take ages to boot or not boot at all, the time before that software I couldnt get to run.

Crashumbc@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 07:29 next collapse

Lies! Linux never has issues!

My laptop’s Linux install currently isn’t corrupt and won’t boot, honest!

Disclaimer: I actually like Linux a lot, JFC the windows hate is crazy…

GreenShimada@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 12:58 collapse

Maybe try another distro? Mint 22.1 works just fine right out of the box, and at this point Claude provides actual support better than scouring 3 forums in case you need small tweaks. Other than some proprietary fingerprint reader I never use, every machine I’ve used it on has been fine.

You can just do a live install from USB and test it before even installing.

MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 19 Aug 16:13 collapse

I don’t bother testing using live boot anymore, often hardware will work on the live image but not work after it’s installed.

Needing to try random distros is part of my frustration with Linux, I just want one that works out of the box.

GreenShimada@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 16:28 collapse

OK, well what I’m trying to tell you is that unless you have some exotic hardware, Mint has the reputation of working right out of the box. Not great for gaming, so if that’s a deal breaker, then that’s it.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 21:02 collapse

unless you have some exotic hardware

Or very recent hardware. 22 is based on Ubuntu 24.04, which shipped with version 6.8 of the kernel which is from March 2024. That excludes all of Nvidia’s 50 series, AMDs RX 9000 series, AMDs 9000 series CPUs/boards, Intel’s Core 200 series/chipsets, Arc B series GPUs.

Sure your 5090 might boot and display a picture, but that thing aint gonna work right.

GreenShimada@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 05:22 next collapse

Came here to say “Well, maybe they’re corrupting your data.”

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 2025 06:33 next collapse

Yet again - headline and article are massive overexaggerations, talking about an issue that a few people have had in very specific situations and saying it breaks everyones SSDs/HDDs and might corrupt their data to get people like you to get outraged and spread FUD.

Remember - if even 0.01% of people on Windows 11 get an error with an update, that is like 100k people. A 0.01% error rate is nothing. It’s not even worth mentioning. It’s not even worth investigating. Sure it sucks for those 100k people, and they’ll be complaining to everyone that will listen - but it’s not a big issue. That’s this. That’s this exact thing.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 11:07 collapse

Wow, with a mentality like that, you’re a perfect fit for medical school.

MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 12:13 next collapse

First of all, false equivalency. Second, this isn’t new and didn’t just start happening again. Its never stopped happening. Windows update is fucking atrocious. Its always been atrocious. Its always been the single worst part about using windows for the vast majority of users.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 21:07 collapse

And you’re a perfect fit for an arts degree with how dumb that equivalency is.

We’re talking about software updates here, not saving lives.

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 21:41 collapse

And you’re about as dense as neutronium if you don’t get it.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 21:57 collapse

Doctors try to save everyone, even the 0.01%. Hell, the 0.01% are actually a huge focus.

In software a 0.01% affecting bug in a single one-off update, that needs very specific exact steps to happen, that is already released is at the bottom of the backlog, never to get fixed.

It’s you that clearly doesn’t get “it”. What is your software development background?

HugeNerd@lemmy.ca on 20 Aug 00:53 collapse

Doctors try to save everyone, even the 0.01%. Hell, the 0.01% are actually a huge focu**s.

BULLSHIT

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 20 Aug 06:00 collapse

I am all ears as to your logic here lol. Can’t wait to hear this wonderful tale. Please, do tell.

3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com on 19 Aug 2025 08:55 collapse

many have to - work from home, have to share data and programs with other workers. There are of course ways around it but I know literally thousands of people who are supplied with a company laptop with windows on it and they have to use it…

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 10:56 collapse

Huh, sounds to me like bad security and data integrity policies/practices from whatever company, probably not very well run places to work for.

3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com on 19 Aug 2025 10:59 collapse

You realise that most companies still run on Windows don’t you? I’m in the UK and there is around zero companies that use anything else… here they got rid of Macs because of the hassle of supporting them and windows. Plenty of companies won’t let you use a Mac to work with either

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 11:48 collapse

Yep I do realize that.

And I still have the same opinion.

You’re in the UK, so you’re not bound by GDPR… but a whole lot of places and orgs that are bound by GDPR realize that MSFT products indeed are a joke from a data security standpoint, and are actively transitioning to linux or at the very least FOSS software.

I am in the US.

I literally used to work for MSFT, a few of their different locations around Seattle.

They are a fucking insane mess, internally, organizationally.

I worked with people, old timers who’d just casually tell me:

‘Oh yeah back before Desert Storm, I was out in Saudi Arabia flashing the BIOS of computer hardware that was bound to be installed in Saddam’s C&C and Air Defense Radar networks, some months later when time came for the air sorties, somebody else just flipped a switch and down goes all their radars!’

Aka a supply chain attack.

Aka, unless your definition of ‘data security’ is ‘the NSA has all my data’, then MSFT products are rather dubious at providing data security.

Like uh, did your org completely remove Copilot?

… Are you sure about that?

MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 12:11 next collapse

You realize a lot of software still only runs on windows, right? So its not even a choice for a lot of business.

3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com on 19 Aug 15:56 collapse

For starters in the UK we ARE bound by GDPR…
But it doesn’t matter - you are assuming that companies care in the UK, they don’t. You get Windows or Windows. As said a lot of software only runs on Windows, and this will continue until microsoft stop windows, corps don’t care. Here in the UK Macs are rare, really really rare, in business. Heck in general use they are rare compared to Windows. Linux is nowhere, under 0.1%. You are literally forced to use Windows if you work for a company. My wife works for a charity and she has to use the company laptop, through the company VPN or else she gets warning and can be sacked… it really is that simple. The company controls what software is installed, even what updates are installed. Here in the UK the NHS buys around 5 million windows machines a year… just imagine that

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 16:31 collapse

Well technically its not the same GDPR, but w/e.

Point is:

Much of what MSFT does isn’t GDPR compliant, or violates other data security and privacy laws in the EU or elsewhere, or just generally throws privacy and security by the wayside, as a matter of course.

crowell.com/…/cloud-gdpr-risks-highlighted-by-eur…

ppc.land/irish-court-approves-first-class-action-…

gadgetreview.com/microsofts-recall-fails-to-prote…

courthousenews.com/microsoft-must-face-privacy-cl…

This is just a teeny weeny sampling.

If you think MSFT gives a shit about actual data security and privacy, you’re not following the just stream of lawsuits they just keep getting into, revolving around these issues.

Yeah if that means 99% of orgs have bad policy, by relying on a company with a terrible record on all this, the, uh then uh yeah, 99% of orgs are choosing to have the ability to blame someone else for their own bad decisions, over making better decisions.

3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com on 19 Aug 16:38 collapse

The point is arguing about something when you plainly don’t understand how the UK still has GDPR doesn’t really validate your opinions in any way shape or form…
The security doesn’t matter, nothing other than Windows is used. To move to something else would cost so much that businesses simply cannot sustain that. We now have workers who have had 30 years of only working with Windows… and new workers only get Windows. Doesn’t matter what you or anybody else thinks, or says, it matters little. It is pretty much set in stone that you need Windows and Office in the UK, plus other software to make things like PDF’s and documents. You can point anyone towards anything and it just doesn’t matter… and here in the UK they don’t care about lawsuits, we don’t sue first and ask questions later - our legal system is just not setup that way. It is so difficult for other countries to understand, but that kind of approach just doesn’t happen, and our legal system takes little notice of legal issues in countries like the US.

sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 18:48 collapse

Cool, I don’t care that its the industry standard, the industry standard is shit.

Adapt, Improvise, Overcome!

If a bunch of Boomers only know how to use Windows, and MS Office, its time for them to retire.

Its not that hard to switch daily drive office work to a stable linux distro, and libreoffice.

Yeah, it would be more difficult to switch over say, a full CRM solutiom, but uh, given how I’ve done exactly that at orgs I’ve worked at, uh, no, no, not impossible, quite doable actually.

3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com on 20 Aug 07:10 collapse

You are still going? You really aren’t a nice person are you forcing your “opinion” on people… it is not financially viable in the UK to retire early any more

nuko147@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 07:48 next collapse

Thank god i blocked windows updates and only allowed security updates for 23H2…

zer0bitz@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 08:41 next collapse

Yesterday I got into the process of installing Windows 10 onto my laptop because I am selling it tomorrow. I asked the buyer if he wanted it with an OS or not, and he replied that he wanted Windows 10 Pro. I downloaded the ISO and installed it to one of my M.2 SATA SSD drives with a USB adapter.

Before installing Windows over my Linux installation, I did a SecureErase to wipe out my drive with the Linux installation because that is the SSD I am selling with the computer.

After installing Windows 10 from the M.2 SATA SSD with a USB adapter to the SecureErased drive, I instantly got multiple error messages about SMART checks saying that the SSD was broken/corrupted. I had never seen this POST error message when booting that computer with a Linux installation.

Well, I obviously had to change the drive to another one where I got the Windows installation to work normally without the BIOS POST error message.

I really cannot be sure what caused that. Can SecureErase do that so SMART checks report the drive as corrupted? Or was it the Windows installation?

salasin@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 10:09 next collapse

Uh v lå p.

Eximius@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 10:18 next collapse

SecureErase would overwrite the whole drive (potentially multiple times). So if the ssd was close to dead, it might have just triggered it.

zer0bitz@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 11:14 collapse

I see. Well the SSD was used and few years old. Some Samsung SSD from a OEM build. I did run SMART tests on it like year ago and it was ok/healthy.

Time to fill it with linux isos and seed them with torrentz until it breaks completely.

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 12:15 collapse

Windows bad because I made a user error >:(

Hm…Weird way to shift blame.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 20 Aug 03:29 collapse

where is the user error? is this user error with us in the room?

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Aug 05:25 collapse

Fully overwriting an SSD is so archaic.

Example from hdparm:

–trim-sector-range
For Solid State Drives (SSDs). EXCEPTIONALLY DANGEROUS. DO NOT USE THIS OPTION!! Tells the drive firmware to discard unneeded data sectors, destroying any data that may have been present within them. This makes those sectors available for immediate use by the firmware’s garbage collection mechanism, to improve scheduling for wear-leveling of the flash media. This option expects one or more sector range pairs immediately after the option: an LBA starting address, a colon, and a sector count (max 65535), with no intervening spaces. EXCEPTIONALLY DANGER‐ OUS. DO NOT USE THIS OPTION!!

I think the all caps warnings say it all.
This is only for the trim sectors of the disk but I can’t imagine it being much different overwriting a whole disk.
Not to mention, as OP said, an old and very used disk.
Quick formatting should be enough to prevent any normal user from extracting meaningful data from the flash storage as only the controller knows how to piece together the flash cells to a file.
If the controller forgets it, the files are toast anyway.
At best write some random data to a quarter of the disk or something lile that.

File recovery may only be possible if you give it to a drive recovery facility. But remember: Those ain’t exactly cheap.
A client paid some 4 figure price because an HDD died. Just for a small amount of files.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 20 Aug 14:51 collapse

@zer0bitz@lemmy.world did a SecureErase, which is an entirely different function. It was exactly made to be used in this scenario: user is selling their laptop.

other than that, hdparm --trim-sector-range is most probably only marked dangerous because with a slight miscalculation you can wipe some of your data and you won’t even know how much damage you did. I’m pretty sure the fstrim command relies on this, which is executed every few weeks on my system, by default. check systemctl status fstrim.timer, maybe on yours too.

Quick formatting should be enough to prevent any normal user from extracting meaningful data from the flash storage as only the controller knows how to piece together the flash cells to a file.

what do you mean by quick formatting? how do you do that on linux? I have only heard this term with te windows disk management tool.

on windows quick formatting only deletes the partition entry from the partition table. that’s why it’s quick. all the former data is there and can be easily recovered, given you know the former partition boundaries, which can also be recovered by tools. the ssd controller won’t know a thing, it won’t forget where it should look for each LBA address.

lena@gregtech.eu on 19 Aug 2025 08:57 next collapse

of file corruption when symptoms occurs" adds the report (Translated from Japanese by Grok AI).

Why would you use an LLM to translate text? There are tools made specifically for that

Saleh@feddit.org on 19 Aug 2025 09:09 next collapse

Which are based on LLMs or other neural network models. It is kind of the thing that language models are actually good at.

See DeepL for example: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeepL_Translator

The service uses a proprietary algorithm with convolutional neural networks (CNNs)[3] that have been trained with the Linguee database.[4][5]
According to the developers, the service uses a newer improved architecture of neural networks, which results in a more natural sound of translations than by competing services.
The translation is said to be generated using a supercomputer that reaches 5.1 petaflops and is operated in Iceland with hydropower.[6][7]
In general, CNNs are slightly more suitable for long coherent word sequences, but they have so far not been used by the competition because of their weaknesses compared to recurrent neural networks.
The weaknesses of DeepL are compensated for by supplemental techniques, some of which are publicly known.

lena@gregtech.eu on 19 Aug 2025 09:11 next collapse

Yeah I know they’re based on LLMs, but they’re more adapted to translation, right?

fishy@lemmy.today on 19 Aug 2025 14:14 collapse

As someone who’s played a few LLM translated games, it is in fact not good at it. There’s a lot of contextual hints that get lost and slang terms tend to confuse it. It does make it close enough where a human that doesn’t speak/read the original language could easily finish the translation though or still make it through the game.

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 09:55 collapse

Honestly, translations are one of the few things LLMs are good for. It can catch things like idioms or other things a machine translator may mistranslate. Though tbf, the main appeal is still live translation.

fossilesque@mander.xyz on 19 Aug 2025 10:14 collapse

I want my Babbelfish.

Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 11:06 next collapse

That update made me buy my first Framework laptop! Fuck Microsoft!!

RiceBowl@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Aug 22:20 collapse

I love my 13". Does exactly what I need. I kind of want the 12", but I don’t really need it. So i’m going to hold off.

Rooty@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 11:29 next collapse

Butbutbutbut Linux is not ready for desktop! I asked a stupid question in an Arch forum and they told me to RTFM! It does not support kernel level anti-cheat! Terminals are scary!

Etc, etc.

Dumhuvud@programming.dev on 19 Aug 2025 13:08 next collapse

It does not support kernel level anti-cheat!

Huh, thought you were mentioning only the cons.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 22:05 collapse

Good luck playing any of the biggest, most played games in the world without it.

Yttra@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 04:09 next collapse

Then I guess they don’t exist.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 20 Aug 06:07 collapse

Unlucky for you then. I’m gonna be having an absolute blast on Battlefield 6 in a few months 😀

vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Aug 19:00 collapse

I very seriously doubt that but cope away haha

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 21 Aug 00:17 collapse

You doubt I’ll be having a blast playing Battlefield 6? Why?

vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Aug 01:13 collapse

Why?

<img alt="it’s made by ea" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/b53a9e3f-f97f-407f-a2a4-92d5ded49bef.webp">

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 21 Aug 01:36 collapse

A few things here…

  1. I’ve already played the game for 20+ hours. I loved almost every second of it, and some of the things I didn’t have already been addressed. They’re taking player feedback seriously.

  2. Battlefield 6 is made by a whole new studio, not “EA DICE”, helmed by one of the best in the history of the industry for these games - Vince Zampella.

  3. Not everything by EA is bad, and anyone saying anything like that is immediately showing they shouldn’t be listened to.

  4. Again - I’ve already played the game via the beta. I know I’m going to have an absolute blast. I didn’t like the last few BF games, so I didn’t buy them. This one is a return to form from what everyone has seen and played.

  5. You tell me to “cope away” while basing your entire opinion on a wikipedia article that’s pretty much got nothing to do with the actual game that’s being discussed lol. Who is “coping”?

vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Aug 03:15 collapse

RIP

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 21 Aug 04:21 collapse

Have fun not playing the biggest game of the year I guess, along with all the other most played games of the year.

vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Aug 04:37 collapse

If I wanted to spend my time/money/energy on corporate slop I would be on Reddit.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 21 Aug 04:40 collapse

lol “Battlefield 6 is corporate slop” is certainly a hot take (a great tag to give you too haha). I’m sure you only enjoy the finest of artistic games that are all anti-establishment and must be played on DIY hardware using solar power.

vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Aug 04:42 collapse

Welcome to Lemmy haha.

Sounds like you should just go back to Reddit and take you “downvotes to disagree” with you.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 21 Aug 04:51 collapse

I didn’t downvote you because I disagreed with you, I downvoted you because your comments add nothing to the conversation and are essentially pointless spam.

I think maybe you’re the one who needs to go back to Reddit though, not me. That’s 2 comments in a row you’ve brought it up without so much as a mention of it from me lol

vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 21 Aug 05:06 collapse

Ok buddy, downvote whatever you want and get as tilted as you want but it’s not going to change the fact that most Lemmy users don’t give a shit about playing corporate slop games from EA.

It seems like it upsets you that we’re all happy with the games we can run on Linux. Which is a weird thing to be upset about unless you deep down just resent the fact that we are cooler than you (I use arch btw).

You have very strong Reddit energy which is catching me off guard. Very strange to see someone defending microsoft/ea on the fediverse. Stranger yet to see someone basically rage commenting about it haha.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 21 Aug 06:08 collapse

Get “tilted”? What on earth? Is that reddit slang?

it’s not going to change the fact that most Lemmy users don’t give a shit about playing corporate slop games from EA.

Only because they can’t because they all use Linux. And again with the “corporate slop” rubbish? Really? lol. What about Battlefield 6 is “corporate slop”? I can’t wait to hear this.

You have very strong Reddit energy which is catching me off guard. Very strange to see someone defending microsoft/ea on the fediverse. Stranger yet to see someone basically rage commenting about it haha.

You have to be a parody account, right? Right? Like there’s no way a person actually says these things and thinks this way, even on here…right? You just can’t get reddit off your mind lol.

Dumhuvud@programming.dev on 20 Aug 20:57 collapse

Don’t give a shit about live service multiplayer PvP-games infested with FOMO battle passes, I’m afraid.

I’m quite content with co-op and singleplayer games, thanks for worrying though.

chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 14:01 next collapse

You jest but would you really install Arch on your grandmother’s PC?

drspastic@lemmy.zip on 19 Aug 2025 14:38 next collapse

Linux is ideal for people who don’t know how to use computers. I have installed Debian for lots of old people and kids. you set it up once and lock it down into users and all they need to do is click to open their web browser or email. kids pensioners and normies don’t do anything on computers other than the occasional word processor document watching YouTube or Netflix or going on Facebook. the problems start when people know a little about computers and want to start installing stuff themselves.

Rooty@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 2025 14:58 next collapse

Depends on her needs. If she uses it for Facebook, no problem, since I’ll be admining her system anyways

CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works on 19 Aug 16:36 next collapse

When my wife’s grandparents had to get a new computer they got upset about the new windows interface and the fact their old games didn’t work, so I set them up with Linux and a DE that resembled XP (it’s what they were familiar with), and I was able to get most of their games going.

They used it without issue until they died.

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au on 19 Aug 22:03 next collapse

You couldn’t get windows games working in windows?

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 19 Aug 23:28 collapse

So you’re saying Linux killed your wife’s grandparents.

CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works on 20 Aug 05:59 collapse

Now that would be a funny headline.

No sadly COVID lockdown isolation did them in. I’ve never seen minds and bodies decay so fast. I have another friend who developed full-blown psychosis from it too, and at this point it looks like he’s never coming back. The lockdowns were harder on some people than we were/are ready to talk about I think.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 20 Aug 13:24 collapse

Yeah, it’s honestly crazy to me because I think lockdowns were a net benefit to me. I was able to spend more time with my SO and kids, I had time for exercise and hobbies since I didn’t need to sit in traffic, and I didn’t need to spend as much social energy making small talk (I’m introverted). I honestly thrived during COVID. Getting COVID sucked for the week or so I had symptoms, but that was honestly a small price to pay for solitude.

But then I see headlines of people literally going crazy, see a dramatic increase in road rage in my area (which didn’t have lockdowns, only social distancing for businesses), and see my own extended family struggling.

I feel so bad for people like your grandparents that suffered. I just personally wish the COVID lifestyle was more accessible.

CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works on 20 Aug 16:38 collapse

I just personally wish the COVID lifestyle was more accessible.

Same, it suited me quite well and I feel bad saying I missed it because so many others, including some of my own family and friends, suffered. Now that I’m back in the office 5 days a week, I lose >2 hours a day with my kids. I had my own parents say “i don’t get why you’re complaining, we got by before COVID” while refusing to acknowledge it’s different because one of them stayed home with us, while my wife and I must both work to survive.

I grew up in a religious conservative family. These and other experiences drove me to the left in a big way. I see now that thinking we can solve systemic issues with individualism is bullshit. I want a world where my wife or I could stay home (or some communal solution) to raise our family right rather than having a bunch of latchkey kids and being stuck doing chores from the moment we get home until the moment we lie down. Some people say “well that’s how I was raised” but it isn’t right.

gian@lemmy.grys.it on 20 Aug 13:51 collapse

Why not ? I suppose that as long as a browser (and whatever else she need) is working, my grandmother would not need much more. And I could also install a windows11 theme on KDE, if I really want to. A icon is a icon

And in the end I think that my grandmother would be able to mantain neither a window machine, so I don’t see the problem.

chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 15:03 collapse

I think most of the replies to my remark thought I was questioning Linux for grandma overall. I wasn’t. Just Arch. I don’t think grandma needs rolling releases.

gian@lemmy.grys.it on 21 Aug 06:23 collapse

In my opinion also Arch is usable on grandma desktop.
True, it is a rolling release but I would suppose that on such machine there would not be that many packages installed and if the network is configured correclty (so nothing can connect from the outside) it would be not be a big problem, after all what grandma use is not updated on a daily basis.

chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world on 21 Aug 10:22 collapse

But that means she’s not getting security updates and since she’s grandma she really needs them. On the other hand, if you’re automatically upgrading her Arch install then there will be breakage she is hopeless to fix.

So what advantage does Arch offer grandma over a traditional release LTS distribution which will be nice and stable, not breaking or changing unexpectedly on her but still remaining current with security patches?

gian@lemmy.grys.it on 21 Aug 11:55 collapse

But that means she’s not getting security updates and since she’s grandma she really needs them. On the other hand, if you’re automatically upgrading her Arch install then there will be breakage she is hopeless to fix.

True, but that would be the end result in any case where an update do something wrong or require some sort of manual intervention, it is not strictly tied to Arch. But you have a point here.

So what advantage does Arch offer grandma over a traditional release LTS distribution which will be nice and stable, not breaking or changing unexpectedly on her but still remaining current with security patches?

Only to have some newer software, but you can also update Arch every once in a while, the fact that it is a rolling release does not mean you need to update every day. The everything will depend on which distro normally uses the person who install the grandma machine

chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world on 21 Aug 14:19 collapse

I used Arch for about 7 years. I still have it installed on an old PC but I haven’t used it recently. Every time I told pacman to update everything it felt like an adventure. Never knew if I was going to reboot to a working desktop or to a console printing cryptic error messages that take a while to Google on my phone before I get things back up and running. I wouldn’t wish that experience on my worst enemy’s grandma!

It all comes down to the maintainers of Arch putting all of the responsibility for breakage (especially due to old configuration files) 100% on the user. That’s not a system any normal person should use, that’s a system for Linux hobbyists. A LTS distribution where “don’t break the user’s install no matter what” is the rule is absolutely the only system I’d ever trust for grandma.

It’s fine if you want to assume all responsibility for updating grandma’s system and fixing breakage every time. I don’t have any interest in doing that. If I’m at grandma’s house I want to spend time talking to her, not fixing her computer.

gian@lemmy.grys.it on 22 Aug 06:56 collapse

I used Arch for about 7 years. I still have it installed on an old PC but I haven’t used it recently. Every time I told pacman to update everything it felt like an adventure. Never knew if I was going to reboot to a working desktop or to a console printing cryptic error messages that take a while to Google on my phone before I get things back up and running. I wouldn’t wish that experience on my worst enemy’s grandma!

The only times I got this kind of problems where when I didn’t read some announcement or for some reason some packages (the kernel) were way too old, normally never had it on a normal update. But as I said, you have a point, even if in the end I would point out that a grandma would never be able to solve any problem caused by an update, irregardless of the distro or the OS.

It all comes down to the maintainers of Arch putting all of the responsibility for breakage (especially due to old configuration files) 100% on the user. That’s not a system any normal person should use, that’s a system for Linux hobbyists.

Only partially. Normally Arch put the new configuration file as a [something].pacnew and it is the user that should then do something, but as long as the software that use the new file could undertand that it is using an older file and it is able to handle the eventually missing new keys or removed ones there will be no problem. On my desktop I have a bunch of [some_program].conf.pacnew and everything works. Is it optimal ? Maybe not but it is not broke.

It’s fine if you want to assume all responsibility for updating grandma’s system and fixing breakage every time. I don’t have any interest in doing that.

Honestly, a grandma would just need Firefox with a couple of extension (uBlock Origin and really few others) and a network with all inbound ports blocked (so no one can connect from outside) and few outbound ports open (very few, just the common ones to use a browser). Maybe she need Openoffice, probably a DE (but a window manager could be enough) but she don’t need a lot of software we all install on out machine. It is true that Arch could be a problem when updating but I think we are talking of a very small set of packages that need to be constantly updated and in my years of Arch usage, basic packages rarely break something while updating.

pyre@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 21:40 collapse

good I’m convinced. just one thing… which graphic design programs does it run natively?

fxdave@lemmy.ml on 20 Aug 03:28 collapse

figma

pyre@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 04:34 collapse

ok so it’s useless

fxdave@lemmy.ml on 20 Aug 12:30 collapse

May I ask what’s your job? I’m a web developer completely fine on Linux. I used windows for a long time, I tried mac for some month. Linux is the best.

pyre@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 12:48 collapse

developer is completely different from designer. I’m a graphic designer, and I also do animations and videos. I use adobe illustrator, photoshop, indesign, premier; affinity designer, photo, blender. I use figma too which is good for prototyping for web or apps, but not graphic design in general. and certainly not photo editing. inb4 gimp–completely unusable for pro work.

fxdave@lemmy.ml on 20 Aug 13:39 collapse

For 3D animations, Modo has linux-x86_64 binary. Blender is native also.

I’ve never been into 2D animations.

For compositing, The Foundry Nuke is native also. (If you’ve got the money, or you’re willing to buy it from seejeepeers)

For video editing, most youtubers use DaVinci Resolve.

Inkscape is slow as it’s using SVG for its backend and not as polished as an illustrator but it is feature-rich. Adwaita icons are designed in inkscape. It’s not a big sacrifice.

I learned photoshop when It was the CS4 version. I know it’s got a lot of AI features since then. Luckily, I left it before I could get used to them, so now I can use gimp. And btw, check gimp’s new release candidate. It’s a huge step forward. Everyone could give them their adobe cc subscription fees and we could see how they compete after that.

Why do you use affinity if you have adobe?

pyre@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 14:21 collapse

i like it much better than adobe. up until a recent update in illustrator it even performed better but now AI seems to have surpassed it. but i find affinity designer’s tools much more useful, although there’s been a bug that pisses me of with the contour tool for quite a while now. but i tolerate it because overall it still allows me to design icons much faster.

in case you’re interested in specifics:

  • the pixel persona in AD allows me to work on raster images without leaving the program most of the time (not all affinity photo features can be used but still having a limited raster editor mode feels much better and smoother than switching between programs). AI simply doesn’t have this in any capacity.

  • AD’s corner tool instead of AI’s corner rounding with the direct selection tool is much more capable and useful because it’s nondestructive. you can change the original shape with the rounding still applied, which is something you cannot do on AI.

  • AD’s contour tool, despite the bug that doesn’t properly round corners when you expand, is still much more fluid to use than AI’s extremely clunky, 1998-ass-feeling offset path. apart from not requiring entering fucking numbers into a fucking dialog box and instead allowing you to offset the path with simple scrubbing… it’s also nondestructive so it can stay on an object even as you edit its original shape. so i still prefer to do workarounds for the bug rather than dealing with that terrible experience in AI.

  • gradients are so much better in AD than AI i don’t even know where to begin. it’s just easier to use and more importantly you can use transparency gradients separately from color gradients (but also can have opacity info on a regular color gradient as well). so you can have an object that goes from 100% blue on the left to 0% green on the right but also add transparency gradient that goes 80% from top right to 20% on the bottom left and see the combination as a result in one object.

  • AD has “erase” as a blending mode which is small but can be very useful if you’re designing something to be exported to png. Has a couple more modes that AI doesn’t have but this one’s the most straightforward and useful imo.

  • It’s nothing huge but I like the vector crop tool in AD, you can just crop anything without thinking about it.

  • consistency between programs when using affinity is a great experience you don’t get to have when working across Adobe tools which even for the most closely related ones feel like they aren’t being developed within the same company but different … I wanna say planets? yeah it’s like they’re being developed in different planets instead.

  • one time payment for major versions only. i bought affinity 1.0, got all the updates for free up until 2.0, which i was able to buy on discount for upgrading. now i get all the updates on 2.x for free.

there are things that AI does better and i use it when i plan to use those, and sometimes use one and copy paste to the other to use the best of each. best highlights are repeat function (Ctrl+d). now there’s also radial repeat which can be great. blend can be very useful… most of the time though i go with AD.

humanspiral@lemmy.ca on 19 Aug 2025 11:31 next collapse

So you’re saying I’ll be safe from this if I stick with win 10 past October?

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 19 Aug 2025 14:32 next collapse

I switched to Mac after my old Asus laptop went out. I figure why bother with a PC laptop, it’s not gonna game and let’s see what the fuss is about. Love my MacBook Air. So then our desktop dies and I give my wife 3 options. A Mac, a cheaper PC, and a more expensive PC. She’s Android, figured she’d want to stick with Windows, but she picked the Mac! So happy. I mostly game on Switch and Xbox these days so that’s fine.

I keep feeling like I left Windows at the right time.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 16:43 next collapse

I feel you may be boarding a different sinking ship: youtu.be/JUG1PlqAUJk

I have been using Linux Mint for over half a year now, and besides gaming, I had no issues with a great experience. Had very bad experience with other Linux distros.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 19 Aug 23:26 collapse

How does Apple’s profitability being a little less than it used to be (they’re still insanely profitable) imply that it’s a “sinking ship”?

I’m a Linux user as well, but use macOS at work and it’s fine.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 19 Aug 23:45 collapse

Did you watch the video or are you guessing based on the thumbnail? Because the video isn’t about Apples profitability.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 20 Aug 00:20 collapse

I watched the first minute or so, which was about their stock price relative to Microsoft. Profitability is a huge part of a company’s stock price.

I didn’t watch the rest because I’m not going to watch a 30 min video without a good reason to.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 06:23 collapse

TL;DR: Under Jobs, Apple focused on engineering products and the profitability and stock price followed. Under Cook, Apple focuses on stock price (dividends, stock buybacks) and is massively cutting R&D/Engineering costs to the point they did not release anything really new for years and their projects keep failing while also increasing prices. E.g. Siri that is unable to catch up to modern chatbots.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 20 Aug 13:13 collapse

Sure, that’s an argument for why the stock price is suffering, not for why macOS is in danger. Apple is still massively profitable, the stock price just reflects the market’s perception that profits won’t increase as fast as their competitors.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 14:25 collapse

Again, why are you so over focused on stock price? As a consumer, how is the first thing you take away from lack of innovation and engineering failures that Apples stock price may suffer and not that the machine you are buying may be sub-par and overpriced?

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 20 Aug 14:35 collapse

I’m agreeing w/ you that stock price is irrelevant here, and that’s what the video opens with. The market is unhappy w/ Apple because they’re delivering essentially what people claim to want: a solid product with steady improvements w/o anything crazy. Microsoft, on the other hand, is delivering what the market wants, which is shoving AI into everything.

I guess I don’t understand why the video is relevant to the average user, who doesn’t really care about innovation and instead wants a consistent experience.

DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 14:43 collapse

I highly doubt there is a user that truly does not care for innovation. If there is a better product for the same price, who wouldn’t buy it.

More importantly, the impact is not just innovative features but security, price of ownership and reliability. Apple managed to “innovate” themselves into a position where they are obstructing data rescue on Macs and iPhones. That’s the kind of thing you may not be thinking about when buying but may greatly regret not having when you need it.

polle@feddit.org on 19 Aug 23:11 collapse

Being happy for someone switching to mac and being on lemmy where everyone is on the Linux train, was not on my bingo card.

cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Aug 00:46 next collapse

Thanks I guess? Surely Mac and Linux users can be friends or at least allies against Windows. Linux comes from UNIX which macOS is based on so they’re very similar, only one is FOSS — which I suppose is the point — and the other is not. But another commonality — Macs and PCs can both run Linux.

JackbyDev@programming.dev on 20 Aug 00:50 collapse

Unix unity. Linux 💜 Mac 💜 BSD

User79185@discuss.tchncs.de on 19 Aug 2025 15:03 next collapse

WHY ARE YOU NOT UPDATING TO WIN ELEVEN? Hard to recommend this OS without QA.

CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works on 19 Aug 16:31 next collapse

Your OS isn’t getting regular updates!!!

This is a feature imo.

sheogorath@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 02:53 collapse

Agile has been a mistake for the software industry. It did nothing except to give executive more avenue to force changes to the software that are being developed and in the end it’ll take a longer time to have production ready software when compared to traditional waterfall approach.

sykaster@feddit.nl on 20 Aug 07:27 collapse

It depends on the use case. For incremental changes and validation of hypotheses in an uncertain or new product Agile is great. It allows for fast valuation and fast pivoting. I would not recommend Agile for systems that are mostly known and need a big upgrade, that’s not what its for.

Agile became a buzzword and shouldn’t have been implemented as widespread as it has. It does have its use cases though.

bassgirl09@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 00:00 next collapse

The 24H2 update would not install on a brand new prebuilt PC that I bought for my parents. I contacted both the manufacturer and Microsoft and spent too many hours troubleshooting before I gave up and returned it to where I bought it as defective. Back to the drawing board for a replacement PC for my parents.

dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 20 Aug 00:54 next collapse

I use arch btw

REDACTED@infosec.pub on 20 Aug 03:51 next collapse

The crowd exhales we know

bhamlin@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 04:06 collapse

Thanks for letting me know! You’re not going to believe this, but I, too, use Arch.

UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world on 20 Aug 04:46 collapse

So it’s working as planned?