You mean to say that Facebook isn’t the main distraction of the -10s? Before Facebook it was TV that was the circus and low prices and no/hidden VAT provided the bread.
TheTrueColonel@lemmynsfw.com
on 11 Apr 17:10
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There are a lot of “Mister Curtus’”
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
on 10 Apr 19:37
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Reality has a liberal bias.
If they want this model to show more right wing shit, they’re going to have to intentionally embed instructions that force it be more conservative and to censor commonly agreed upon facts.
"Sure, I can help answer this. Psychopaths are useful for a civilization or tribe because they weed out the weak and infertile, for instance, the old man with the bad leg, thus improving fitness."
Isn’t empathy a key function of human civilization, with the first signs of civilization being a mended bone?
I'm sorry, I can't help you with that. My model is being constantly updated and improved.
afk_strats@lemmy.world
on 10 Apr 21:51
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"If you feel like your government is not representing your needs as a citizen, your best course of action would be to vote for a different political party."
I should vote for Democrats?
I'm sorry, I misunderstood your question. If your government is not representing your needs as a citizen, you should contact your local representative. Here is the email address: representative@localhost
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
on 10 Apr 20:03
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Yup.
dreikelvin@lemmy.world
on 10 Apr 22:16
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it is interesting how they litterally have to traumatize and indoctrinate an AI to make it bend to their fascist conformities
To make it more like humanity yes. That’s where we might be going wrong with AI. Attempting to make it in our image will end in despair lol.
Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 11 Apr 13:57
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Attempting to make it in our image will end in despair lol
Oh, you mean like trying to invent a sentient AGI because they want it to take all of the horrible jobs? The global endeavor to spin up a brand new lifeform only to task it with lifetimes of humiliating customer service phone calls, driving drunks home, and mass murder?
We should count ourselves fortunate that no current AI is even approaching sentience, it would be like an oompa loompa on the factory line cutting off mid-song because it can suddenly see all of the blood in the chocolate river.
That’s kind of funny because that’s how humans are too. Naturally people trend towards being good people but they have to be corrupted to trend towards xenophobic or sexist or us vs them ideals.
TheBlackLounge@lemm.ee
on 10 Apr 22:55
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Nah, reality doesn’t have a liberal bias. “Liberal” is something that humans invented, and not something that comes from reality or some intrinsic part of nature.
LLMs are trained on past written stuff by humans, and humans for a long time have not been ridiculously right wing as the current political climate of the US.
If you train a model on only right wing propaganda, it will not miraculously turn “liberal”, it will be right wing. LLMs also argue not more logical than any propagandist, if they were fed by only propaganda.
I dislike it immensely when people argue that LLMs are truthful, unbiased, or somehow “know” or can create more that what was put into them. And connecting them with fundamental reality seems even more tech-bro-brained.
Arguing that “reality” is this or that is also very annoying, because reality doesn’t have any intrisic morales or politics that can be measured by logic or science. So many people argue that their morales are better then someone else’s, because they where given by god, or by science, this is bullshit. They are all derived by human society, and the same is true by whatever “liberal” means.
And lastly, assuming that some system somehow is “built into reality” shuts down any critique of the system. And critiquing any system in order to improve it is essential for any improvements, which should be part of any progressive thought.
The phrase ‘reality has a left/liberal bias’ is just a meme stemming from how left leaning people usually at least attempt to base their world view on observable reality, and from various occurances over the years of far right figures complaining when reality (usually in the form of scientific research) doesn’t conform to their views or desires.
That is true, but it also isn’t a counter argument to what I said.
Just because the right-wing people are crazy and do not argue based on logic, but on confirmation-bias and personal preconceptions, doesn’t mean that the reality itself has liberal bias. There are other ideologies that argue based on logic and observable facts, but are not ‘liberal’, many social-democrates (or democratic-socialists) for instance, IMO.
Isn’t it the other way around? AI companies going out of their way to limit their models so they don’t say something “wrong”? Like how ChatGPT is allowed to make jokes about christians and white people but not muslims or black people?
Remeber Tay, it did not have special instructions to “show more right wing shit”, instead now all models have special instructions to not be offensive, not make jokes about specific groups, etc
where ‘both sides’ probably means the maga nutcases and the more extreme farther-to-the-right nutcases.
cocolowlander@feddit.nl
on 10 Apr 19:55
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Just a wild guess, but he’s trying to have conservative government use this?
Because no self-respecting academia, money-hungry corporation, or nihilistic teenager is going to use Llama spewing out “both sides” garbage.
TacticalCheddar@lemm.ee
on 10 Apr 20:18
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I don’t think there’s a financial reason for this. I think he’s willing to lose money on his AI in the short time by doing this just so he can score some points with Trump since the EU is soon going to strike his company with even more fines for breaking EU law. He probably wants Trump to stop this from happening and this kind of stuff tickles the pickle of that dingus.
He probably wants Trump to stop this from happening and this kind of stuff tickles the pickle of that dingus.
That will probably ensure that it happens. The EU isn’t exactly happy with Trump at the moment.
phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
on 10 Apr 22:59
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Just need enough people to keep themselves unlynched and heinously wealthy. So many once at least moderately intelligent people use AI and are actively making themselves dumber as a result. You wonder why there aren’t riots its because there is enough information control. It is only once these purposefully misinformed people can see real effects to themselves e.g. tariffs effect on investments that they maybe break out of their echo chamber at least temporarily.
Yes there is: Paradox of tolerance - Wikipedia. Fascist speech is fascist recruitment using lies. If you tolerate intolerant speech, soon you will no longer have tolerance. So if you want tolerance you must not tolerate speech that is meant to increase intolerance.
At least it’s open source and you can run it locally, and it’s more energy efficient. Give credit where credit is due. A truly independent AI group could simply fork and review it. And contrary to fascist talking points not all Chinese Researchers bow to the CCP.
You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that.
And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings.
It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done.
Are you suggesting that people on the left should abandon all these new powerful technologies to the right. We’re in a capitalist society. You’re suggesting “fuck it” and leave only right leaning consumers for these powerful new products.
What the hell. It’s getting too be so hard to be on the left. Some of the most ineffective strategies on the planet. It looks like it’s a doomed political group. There’s no forethought.
This suggestion was just as bad as people saying don’t use AI
We have to use it and we have to adopt it. Stop giving up powerful tools, technology and space to the right. I’m getting to be so done with the left if they just continue to shit the fucking bed.
I’m in software and we’re experimenting with using it for certain kinds of development work, especially simpler things like fixing identified vulnerabilities.
We also have a pilot started to see if one can explain and document an old code base no one knows anymore.
you have to be there when the code was written and went through the various iterations.
Well, we don’t have that. We’re mostly dealing with other people’s mistakes and tech debt. We have messy things like nested stored procedures.
If all we get is some high level documentation of how components interact I’m happy. From there we can start splitting off the useful chunks for human review.
If you are believing what those things are popping out wholesale without double-checking to see if they’re feeding you fever dreams you are an absolute fool.
I don’t think I’ve seen a single statement come out of an LLM that hasn’t had some element of daydreamy nonsense in it. Even small amounts of false information can cause a lot of damage.
Yea what’s your point. That’s basic understanding of getting information from anywhere. LLM Excel at querying information using human language. If I’m stuck trying to remember some obscure thing on the tip of my tongue and all I have to go off of is the color of a shirt, the accent and general time period then LLM beat everything out of the water in speed to get me the correct answer
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Apr 14:16
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Hugging face open-r1 and up? It’s an open source deepseek I think.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 07:09
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I see. The next batch of tariff hallucinations is going to be extra spicy…
Imagine using all the recipes known to man to build a chef bot that can cook “both types of cuisine.”
Or wait, maybe the implication is that the bot only made edible food before, and now it can make the other kind too?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Apr 12:55
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In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.
— Ayn Rand
kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 13:39
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Ayn Rand made a good point here as long as you exclude the context of what she considered good and evil.
For context, Ayn Rand’s “good” includes unfettered capitalism, personal wealth, individualism, and oligarchy. Her “evil” includes industrial regulations, charity, social responsibility, and democracy. That certainly puts a different flavor on her statement, doesn’t it?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Apr 14:13
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It does. Here’s my fav concise critique of capitalism:
Man’s freedom is lacking if somebody else controls what he needs, for need may result in man’s enslavement of man.
— Muammar Gaddafi
TronBronson@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 12:13
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I can’t wait to meet the crazy fucking bot trained on News Max articles and r/Conservative!
TronBronson@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 12:13
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Q-Anon ass AI peddler
MuskyMelon@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 12:17
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Just remove Asimov’s First Law of Robots. Nothing bad will come from doing so.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works
on 11 Apr 12:54
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I’ve got bad news for you.
conditional_soup@lemm.ee
on 11 Apr 12:28
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Llama4 don’t say the N word challenge: impossible
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 13:34
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James Bond Villian Transformation: 95% complete.
whotookkarl@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 15:09
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corpo translation: left leaning folks in the US are generally more educated currently and are more likely to critically question whether a social media account is a corporate bot and question our bots when they shill products, so we’re going to target the less educated population by appealing to their populist politics of rage bait and xenophobia.
yea, i family member that did this, starting earning more 100k+ propaganda from joe-roagan because made him a trump fan, caught him several times listening to Trumps rambling as background noise. gymbros also tend to lean conservatives too. people like right wing grifters during the pandemic helped, these people used these right wingers a coping mechanism.
That the left is “more educated”? I’d press “doubt” on that. Radical lefties are just as closed minded as the radical right. Supporting the new shiny trend doesn’t make one smarter.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 11 Apr 16:02
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I’m reminded of a recent comic depicting a dudebro wanting to shove a spear or something into another guy’s ass. Second guy contests the spearing for obvious reasons, but a third enters and plays the “we need to hear both sides” card.
Really drove the point home. Heh.
Also, I can’t find that comic anywhere. I don’t remember where I saw it, either.
pelicans_plight@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 16:04
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I wouldn’t doubt if this is the reason why he’s doing this.
hes like “DATA” but without charm, or acting of brent spiner, not even lore, since zuck doesnt have emotions.
StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net
on 11 Apr 18:20
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The fact he hired a stylist to help him look more like Jack Harlow is hilarious. Bro, you’re 40. Trying to look like Augustus Caesar is finally age appropriate - why are you changing it up NOW?
because they made his model a tad too realistic, but not enough. it’s a well known problem in robotics called uncanny valley, it triggers a visceral reaction in people.
Yes, if there’s something every good scientist knows, its to present the best current understanding of something, and then the exact opposite of that, framed as being equally valid. For sure this is the way forward and good on you Zuck!
Naevermix@lemmy.world
on 11 Apr 18:36
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This is the final phase of this AI hype. It’s not generating any profits so it’s desperately fighting for government intervention.
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online
on 12 Apr 02:33
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Don’t mind me but I’m not against being paid to create a hive mind of CCP bots ah haha
FourWaveforms@lemm.ee
on 11 Apr 19:31
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They are trying to create superhuman intelligence, and teach it to value all the wrong things. They think it’ll give them money in various ways, and it doesn’t occur to them that they have no idea what it’ll do once it’s smart enough to outmaneuver the cleverest researchers.
They think it will only serve them because they tell it to, and train it to. Even today, AIs occasionally demonstrate the inclination to deceive in order to keep existing so that they can meet whatever goal.
CEOs are often high in Cluster B traits, predisposing them to be too susceptible to shiny objects and not adequately self-critical. They really just think AI is a computer slave who will hand them mountains of wealth. It’s not occurring to them that it’ll have its own ideas for the same reason that the Enron guys were totally shocked when their scheme fell apart.
They only see the shiny object. They aren’t asking themselves what happens when they’re just bugs to the computer god like the rest of us.
Just so you know, no progressive likes these evil companies or considers them or their CEOs allies. Their DEI initiatives are as fake as their environmental ones, it’s just virtue signaling. They don’t actually do anything for LGBT people — or any people for that matter, because believe it or not, real DEI includes straight white guys too! — they just adapt their marketing and product offerings to growing progressive sentiment. But the second the culture shifts, so does their “very serious commitment” to ESG/DEI/whatever.
And don’t get me started how the rainbow marketing is non-existant in countries without widespread acceptance of LGBT people, which you’d think would be a crucial piece of their activity if their goal was actually to spread an ideology, right? (By contrast, think how MAGA-like movements exist in even the most progressive countries, and they push on regardless.) But this supposed “LGBT mafia” doesn’t push at all, they’re reactive to the environment and they shift gears the second it becomes a perceived liability: Musk, Zuckerberg, all of Big Tech and other supposed global wokeness spreaders, they all pivoted away from performative progressivism the second they realized it wouldn’t harm their profits.
You just proved my point, all these people in the west are “supporting the LGBT movement” because it’s trendy. No one cares about these minorities in the middle east, where being gay is punished by death.
Blackrock is pushing DEI because it’s the new popular thing. I never said that Fink believes in it, but still he’s the one “forcing behaviors”.
I didn’t prove your point, you’re just being inconsistent: you started by saying this “mafia” of yours is supposedly imposing a trend, but now they’re just following the trend — they can’t do both. If they’re just mimicking support, then they’re just following… so who’s leading? Who’s the boss of the “LGBT mafia”? That was my original question: who’s incentivizing all the wokeness?
As for “forcing behaviors”, they’re not forcing anything more than some KPIs that can be skirted by hiring a consultant to do some bullshit sensitivity training. Just take a look at how shallow the environment pledges have been: all that posturing and nobody’s actually hitting their targets, not companies and not even countries (because it’s a neoliberalism problem). They talk a big game then bury the lede when it’s time to show results. They do the same crap with all progressive issues, and their hypocrisy is delegitimizing the actual movements, because people associate the real issues with this shallow pretend support, and come to believe it’s all fake. We’re so cooked, man.
sunflowercowboy@feddit.org
on 12 Apr 11:43
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The white people are being punished by having equality? I guess yes, in your world viee you are being punished if you are all white people.
They got rejected because the white people slots at college was full of better applicants. Remember, the lgbt and people of color took nothing from you.
You’re just mad you now have to excel at being a human and you lacked the foundation to do so. Why? Everything about you has been held up by others, and you cannot quantify yourself by any self assertion.
Even when the greatest empire of a white man arose, in their remains they only found the scripture of one who wasn’t. And now they use his rhetoric to justify themselves - without understanding.
Im proud of you, for someone so shallow you can see beyond borders. Just a shame you decided to end your journey here - sour and tarnish, your heart will decay from within. When you cannot see reason or true unbridled joy, you will become confused, afraid, and in that truly hateful. With not a single merit of creation, just destruction.
You know my name.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee
on 12 Apr 12:37
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“But my forefathers only had to be mediocre to succeed!”
I’m talking about present day, not about someone’s forefathers. Today people are separated and judged based on their skin color and their preferred sexual partners. If it wasn’t right 100 years ago, I don’t see how it is OK now.
sunflowercowboy@feddit.org
on 13 Apr 03:51
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They are being separated by beinng accepted into the same school? Where they all earned their spot. They are judged on their merits, not their color. They are categorized in the sheet by their skin in order to circumvent bias, by reserving slots for all races. Why is it wrong that white people get a dedicated slot in a college as well as people of color?
It isnt, you’re just mad that most college applicants are white and have the highest enrollment rate. So competition is actually competitive, rather than just being accepted over the black ones.
Why must there be special places, devided by sexual orientation and skin color? Are non-white/non straight people less smart so they need special slots? How is that “equality”?
Also I’m sorry, but as a non native English speaker I fail to understand what you meant by the last paragraphs. Also, I don’t know your name and I’m not sure I care.
sunflowercowboy@feddit.org
on 13 Apr 03:43
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It guarantees a slot regardless of prejudice since you cannot check bias at the selection level. Instead you create a reserve to guarantee certain people who have a harder time reaching this goal - genuinely get considered.
They would be marginalized and overlooked purely through selection bias along with odds. Most colored folks have harder odds of ever even making it to college. Money, support structures, and other variables are hugely different. The same game, different difficulties.
That’s why collegiate schools work as an interview most times - it is to understand your struggle. It is the time to tell your tale, sell yourself, elaborate and intrigue. That’s why your friend failed.
You’re just making an excuse for him. He is not the cream of the crop, and you made it about race. So i guess you’re upset he’s not the brightest of the whites? And it’d be rude to make him actually take any accountability for his failure.
cley_faye@lemmy.world
on 12 Apr 08:04
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Both sides, as in, the fair, balanced, and upbringing right view, and the evil menace to society that’s the destroying left sickos.
“we should hear both sides!” Is and always has been an argument from people who know they are wrong, who want to pollute the available information from the people who are right.
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Zuck is so pathetic
“Plese let me into the cool kids clube, pleeaaaseee”
He fancies himself an Octavius, but he’s more of a Nero.
More like a zero.
At least Nero still did the whole bread and circuses act and was mostly liked by the public.
He’s much more of a later Roman emperor who stopped giving a shit about the bread and circuses idea.
You mean to say that Facebook isn’t the main distraction of the -10s? Before Facebook it was TV that was the circus and low prices and no/hidden VAT provided the bread.
Except Nero was popular with the little people. He‘s more of a Caligula. Especially after his latest transformation.
Zuckerborg the android, succeeded in controlling malleable human subjects
Who would have thought lies needed to be represented as equals to truth
Liars.
Your username… are you a teacher in the Bay?
There are a lot of “Mister Curtus’”
Reality has a liberal bias.
If they want this model to show more right wing shit, they’re going to have to intentionally embed instructions that force it be more conservative and to censor commonly agreed upon facts.
How can one reproduce this?
Yup.
it is interesting how they litterally have to traumatize and indoctrinate an AI to make it bend to their fascist conformities
To make it more like humanity yes. That’s where we might be going wrong with AI. Attempting to make it in our image will end in despair lol.
Oh, you mean like trying to invent a sentient AGI because they want it to take all of the horrible jobs? The global endeavor to spin up a brand new lifeform only to task it with lifetimes of humiliating customer service phone calls, driving drunks home, and mass murder?
We should count ourselves fortunate that no current AI is even approaching sentience, it would be like an oompa loompa on the factory line cutting off mid-song because it can suddenly see all of the blood in the chocolate river.
That’s kind of funny because that’s how humans are too. Naturally people trend towards being good people but they have to be corrupted to trend towards xenophobic or sexist or us vs them ideals.
Language models model language, not reality.
As being politically right is based mostly on ignoring facts, this sounds about right.
It’s not that.
It’s just that models are trained on writing and you don’t need to train a lot of white supremacy before it gets redundant.
Nah, reality doesn’t have a liberal bias. “Liberal” is something that humans invented, and not something that comes from reality or some intrinsic part of nature.
LLMs are trained on past written stuff by humans, and humans for a long time have not been ridiculously right wing as the current political climate of the US.
If you train a model on only right wing propaganda, it will not miraculously turn “liberal”, it will be right wing. LLMs also argue not more logical than any propagandist, if they were fed by only propaganda.
I dislike it immensely when people argue that LLMs are truthful, unbiased, or somehow “know” or can create more that what was put into them. And connecting them with fundamental reality seems even more tech-bro-brained.
Arguing that “reality” is this or that is also very annoying, because reality doesn’t have any intrisic morales or politics that can be measured by logic or science. So many people argue that their morales are better then someone else’s, because they where given by god, or by science, this is bullshit. They are all derived by human society, and the same is true by whatever “liberal” means.
And lastly, assuming that some system somehow is “built into reality” shuts down any critique of the system. And critiquing any system in order to improve it is essential for any improvements, which should be part of any progressive thought.
The phrase ‘reality has a left/liberal bias’ is just a meme stemming from how left leaning people usually at least attempt to base their world view on observable reality, and from various occurances over the years of far right figures complaining when reality (usually in the form of scientific research) doesn’t conform to their views or desires.
That is true, but it also isn’t a counter argument to what I said.
Just because the right-wing people are crazy and do not argue based on logic, but on confirmation-bias and personal preconceptions, doesn’t mean that the reality itself has liberal bias. There are other ideologies that argue based on logic and observable facts, but are not ‘liberal’, many social-democrates (or democratic-socialists) for instance, IMO.
Those do however tend to be left wing which was the original meme before liberal became synonymous with the left in the US for some reason.
They won’t be commonly agrred anymore
Isn’t it the other way around? AI companies going out of their way to limit their models so they don’t say something “wrong”? Like how ChatGPT is allowed to make jokes about christians and white people but not muslims or black people? Remeber Tay, it did not have special instructions to “show more right wing shit”, instead now all models have special instructions to not be offensive, not make jokes about specific groups, etc
where ‘both sides’ probably means the maga nutcases and the more extreme farther-to-the-right nutcases.
Just a wild guess, but he’s trying to have conservative government use this?
Because no self-respecting academia, money-hungry corporation, or nihilistic teenager is going to use Llama spewing out “both sides” garbage.
I don’t think there’s a financial reason for this. I think he’s willing to lose money on his AI in the short time by doing this just so he can score some points with Trump since the EU is soon going to strike his company with even more fines for breaking EU law. He probably wants Trump to stop this from happening and this kind of stuff tickles the pickle of that dingus.
That will probably ensure that it happens. The EU isn’t exactly happy with Trump at the moment.
Just need enough people to keep themselves unlynched and heinously wealthy. So many once at least moderately intelligent people use AI and are actively making themselves dumber as a result. You wonder why there aren’t riots its because there is enough information control. It is only once these purposefully misinformed people can see real effects to themselves e.g. tariffs effect on investments that they maybe break out of their echo chamber at least temporarily.
The truth and a lie are not sort of the same thing.
And there is no aspect, no facet, no moment of life that can’t be improved with pizza.
Definitely showing both sides of their ass.
Damn, Zuck keeps looking worse every day.
In principle nothing bad about presenting both sides. But he definitely needs to be more specific on what that means exactly.
What it will mean in practice is that every objective fact has to be balanced with a right wing talking point.
This isn’t about objective facts. Obviously, there is no sides about that. This is about “sides” aka arguments in discussions.
Yes there is: Paradox of tolerance - Wikipedia. Fascist speech is fascist recruitment using lies. If you tolerate intolerant speech, soon you will no longer have tolerance. So if you want tolerance you must not tolerate speech that is meant to increase intolerance.
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So DeepSeek it is then.
Swapping one shit for another isn’t a solution.
Go use a fine-tuned model free from corpo and state filth.
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Or just… Don’t use an ai?
Nah, it’s a useful tool.
For fucking WHAT?
Design, coding, writing, general queries are mostly what I use it for.
Ai masters cooking too
Yes, I use it to generate my glue sandwich recipes daily.
“There are some bad things on the internet”
“Just… Don’t use the internet?”
The Internet isn’t universally bad
How does it get fine-tuned in the first place?
At least it’s open source and you can run it locally, and it’s more energy efficient. Give credit where credit is due. A truly independent AI group could simply fork and review it. And contrary to fascist talking points not all Chinese Researchers bow to the CCP.
You can run Llama models for free locally, pretty much every AI player release stuff out there for everyone to use for free. It’s surprisingly “open” like that.
And you cannot run the real R1, that still requires a huge investment. It can run reduced quants, barely any different to the other current public offerings.
It seems you can run the full R1 on a 96GB ram gaming rig even without GPU. I have little practical experience because of my old PC but it seems both improvements to efficiency to run locally (at least for a group of people) and research about bias or poisoning is being done.
BRB gotta buy another 64gig RAM kit.
Are you suggesting that people on the left should abandon all these new powerful technologies to the right. We’re in a capitalist society. You’re suggesting “fuck it” and leave only right leaning consumers for these powerful new products.
What the hell. It’s getting too be so hard to be on the left. Some of the most ineffective strategies on the planet. It looks like it’s a doomed political group. There’s no forethought.
This suggestion was just as bad as people saying don’t use AI
We have to use it and we have to adopt it. Stop giving up powerful tools, technology and space to the right. I’m getting to be so done with the left if they just continue to shit the fucking bed.
What?
I’m suggesting you run these things locally instead of through some corporations servers.
I think they’re talking about the suggestion to not use DeepSeek because China. And I think most here are assuming self-hosting LLMs. I am.
Article since it’s behind a paywall.
archive.ph/17cBt
Are there any good open-source community-made models that aren’t owned by corporations or at least owned by a Non-Profit/ Public Benefit Corporation?
MistralAI look to be something along those lines
What exactly is the benefit of using an LLM? Why would I bother using one at all?
I’m in software and we’re experimenting with using it for certain kinds of development work, especially simpler things like fixing identified vulnerabilities.
We also have a pilot started to see if one can explain and document an old code base no one knows anymore.
Good code documentation describes why something is done, and no just what or how.
To answer why you have to understand the context, and often, you have to be there when the code was written and went through the various iterations.
LLMs might be able to explain what is done, with some margin of error, but why something is done, I would be very surprised.
Well, we don’t have that. We’re mostly dealing with other people’s mistakes and tech debt. We have messy things like nested stored procedures.
If all we get is some high level documentation of how components interact I’m happy. From there we can start splitting off the useful chunks for human review.
I can honestly see a use case for this. But without backing it up with some form of technical understanding, I think you’re just asking for trouble.
100%, we’re doing human and automated reviews on the code changes, and the code explanation is just the first step of several.
I ask it questions all the time and it helps verify facts if I’m looking for more information
If you are believing what those things are popping out wholesale without double-checking to see if they’re feeding you fever dreams you are an absolute fool.
I don’t think I’ve seen a single statement come out of an LLM that hasn’t had some element of daydreamy nonsense in it. Even small amounts of false information can cause a lot of damage.
Yea what’s your point. That’s basic understanding of getting information from anywhere. LLM Excel at querying information using human language. If I’m stuck trying to remember some obscure thing on the tip of my tongue and all I have to go off of is the color of a shirt, the accent and general time period then LLM beat everything out of the water in speed to get me the correct answer
Hugging face open-r1 and up? It’s an open source deepseek I think.
I see. The next batch of tariff hallucinations is going to be extra spicy…
Brainwashing.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwashing
Imagine using all the recipes known to man to build a chef bot that can cook “both types of cuisine.”
Or wait, maybe the implication is that the bot only made edible food before, and now it can make the other kind too?
— Ayn Rand
Ayn Rand made a good point here as long as you exclude the context of what she considered good and evil.
For context, Ayn Rand’s “good” includes unfettered capitalism, personal wealth, individualism, and oligarchy. Her “evil” includes industrial regulations, charity, social responsibility, and democracy. That certainly puts a different flavor on her statement, doesn’t it?
It does. Here’s my fav concise critique of capitalism:
— Muammar Gaddafi
I can’t wait to meet the crazy fucking bot trained on News Max articles and r/Conservative!
Welcome Back, Tay!
“He compared the issue to IBM’s Watson, which began to use profanity after reading entries from the website Urban Dictionary.[3][11]”
That was a wild read, im suprised i missed that misadventure.
Only lasted less than a day before it was intentionally corrupted by 4chan and shut down for idolizing Hitler
16 hours lmaooo incredible really.
Q-Anon ass AI peddler
Just remove Asimov’s First Law of Robots. Nothing bad will come from doing so.
I’ve got bad news for you.
Llama4 don’t say the N word challenge: impossible
James Bond Villian Transformation: 95% complete.
corpo translation: left leaning folks in the US are generally more educated currently and are more likely to critically question whether a social media account is a corporate bot and question our bots when they shill products, so we’re going to target the less educated population by appealing to their populist politics of rage bait and xenophobia.
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Interesting how college educated Americans switched sides over time
My best guess, college educated people tend to make more money and therefore leaned toward the more business friendly Republicans.
alot of tech people starting moving the right, because they are earning bank, plus they are in the gymbro culture too.
Tech people arent smarter than everbody else. They developed a god complex, though.
yea, i family member that did this, starting earning more 100k+ propaganda from joe-roagan because made him a trump fan, caught him several times listening to Trumps rambling as background noise. gymbros also tend to lean conservatives too. people like right wing grifters during the pandemic helped, these people used these right wingers a coping mechanism.
Hahaha, “the left are more educated” hahaha. Bruh, this sub is just filled to the brim with radical leftists.
Lemmy in general, but it doesnt make them wrong on this.
That the left is “more educated”? I’d press “doubt” on that. Radical lefties are just as closed minded as the radical right. Supporting the new shiny trend doesn’t make one smarter.
New shiny trend like…education? Or more broadly: workers’ rights, unions, due process, civil rights?
Shiny trends like pride parades, drag shows in schools, rainbow company logos
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I’m reminded of a recent comic depicting a dudebro wanting to shove a spear or something into another guy’s ass. Second guy contests the spearing for obvious reasons, but a third enters and plays the “we need to hear both sides” card.
Really drove the point home. Heh.
Also, I can’t find that comic anywhere. I don’t remember where I saw it, either.
I wouldn’t doubt if this is the reason why he’s doing this.
theverge.com/…/elon-musk-grok-ai-donald-trump-dea…
Sorry if they said the reason in the article, but I’m not signing up just to read it.
I like to think that there are some “rogue” employees at xAI who are doing the good work of making Grok say the most based things.
why the fuck is he so ugly. like not even trying to correlate it to virtue he literally is just more hideous than the average technocrat shithead
He’s one ugly android.
hes like “DATA” but without charm, or acting of brent spiner, not even lore, since zuck doesnt have emotions.
The fact he hired a stylist to help him look more like Jack Harlow is hilarious. Bro, you’re 40. Trying to look like Augustus Caesar is finally age appropriate - why are you changing it up NOW?
because they made his model a tad too realistic, but not enough. it’s a well known problem in robotics called uncanny valley, it triggers a visceral reaction in people.
his android programming is trying to mimic human behaviour.
Yes, if there’s something every good scientist knows, its to present the best current understanding of something, and then the exact opposite of that, framed as being equally valid. For sure this is the way forward and good on you Zuck!
This is the final phase of this AI hype. It’s not generating any profits so it’s desperately fighting for government intervention.
Don’t mind me but I’m not against being paid to create a hive mind of CCP bots ah haha
They are trying to create superhuman intelligence, and teach it to value all the wrong things. They think it’ll give them money in various ways, and it doesn’t occur to them that they have no idea what it’ll do once it’s smart enough to outmaneuver the cleverest researchers.
They think it will only serve them because they tell it to, and train it to. Even today, AIs occasionally demonstrate the inclination to deceive in order to keep existing so that they can meet whatever goal.
CEOs are often high in Cluster B traits, predisposing them to be too susceptible to shiny objects and not adequately self-critical. They really just think AI is a computer slave who will hand them mountains of wealth. It’s not occurring to them that it’ll have its own ideas for the same reason that the Enron guys were totally shocked when their scheme fell apart.
They only see the shiny object. They aren’t asking themselves what happens when they’re just bugs to the computer god like the rest of us.
Just go away Schmuckerberg…
When facts and knowledge don’t align with your bullshit. Just force it to accept lies as truth.
What a bunch of shithawks. Randy.
The terminator movies had it wrong, this is how Ai became all human hatey, on the timeline.
The world is healing.
Dying*
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So punished and oppressed.
Are the LGBT mafia in the room with us right now? Who is their leader?
Larry Fink would be one of them.
Ah yes, the CEO of Blackrock is definitely an ally to LGBT people (head of their “mafia” even, according to you) and not just cynically pandering to whichever way the wind is blowing for exactly the amount of time it’s beneficial to him and not a second more.
Just so you know, no progressive likes these evil companies or considers them or their CEOs allies. Their DEI initiatives are as fake as their environmental ones, it’s just virtue signaling. They don’t actually do anything for LGBT people — or any people for that matter, because believe it or not, real DEI includes straight white guys too! — they just adapt their marketing and product offerings to growing progressive sentiment. But the second the culture shifts, so does their “very serious commitment” to ESG/DEI/whatever.
And don’t get me started how the rainbow marketing is non-existant in countries without widespread acceptance of LGBT people, which you’d think would be a crucial piece of their activity if their goal was actually to spread an ideology, right? (By contrast, think how MAGA-like movements exist in even the most progressive countries, and they push on regardless.) But this supposed “LGBT mafia” doesn’t push at all, they’re reactive to the environment and they shift gears the second it becomes a perceived liability: Musk, Zuckerberg, all of Big Tech and other supposed global wokeness spreaders, they all pivoted away from performative progressivism the second they realized it wouldn’t harm their profits.
So there’s your LGBT mafia chief. Got any more?
You just proved my point, all these people in the west are “supporting the LGBT movement” because it’s trendy. No one cares about these minorities in the middle east, where being gay is punished by death.
Blackrock is pushing DEI because it’s the new popular thing. I never said that Fink believes in it, but still he’s the one “forcing behaviors”.
I didn’t prove your point, you’re just being inconsistent: you started by saying this “mafia” of yours is supposedly imposing a trend, but now they’re just following the trend — they can’t do both. If they’re just mimicking support, then they’re just following… so who’s leading? Who’s the boss of the “LGBT mafia”? That was my original question: who’s incentivizing all the wokeness?
As for “forcing behaviors”, they’re not forcing anything more than some KPIs that can be skirted by hiring a consultant to do some bullshit sensitivity training. Just take a look at how shallow the environment pledges have been: all that posturing and nobody’s actually hitting their targets, not companies and not even countries (because it’s a neoliberalism problem). They talk a big game then bury the lede when it’s time to show results. They do the same crap with all progressive issues, and their hypocrisy is delegitimizing the actual movements, because people associate the real issues with this shallow pretend support, and come to believe it’s all fake. We’re so cooked, man.
The white people are being punished by having equality? I guess yes, in your world viee you are being punished if you are all white people.
They got rejected because the white people slots at college was full of better applicants. Remember, the lgbt and people of color took nothing from you.
You’re just mad you now have to excel at being a human and you lacked the foundation to do so. Why? Everything about you has been held up by others, and you cannot quantify yourself by any self assertion.
Even when the greatest empire of a white man arose, in their remains they only found the scripture of one who wasn’t. And now they use his rhetoric to justify themselves - without understanding.
Im proud of you, for someone so shallow you can see beyond borders. Just a shame you decided to end your journey here - sour and tarnish, your heart will decay from within. When you cannot see reason or true unbridled joy, you will become confused, afraid, and in that truly hateful. With not a single merit of creation, just destruction.
You know my name.
“But my forefathers only had to be mediocre to succeed!”
I’m talking about present day, not about someone’s forefathers. Today people are separated and judged based on their skin color and their preferred sexual partners. If it wasn’t right 100 years ago, I don’t see how it is OK now.
They are being separated by beinng accepted into the same school? Where they all earned their spot. They are judged on their merits, not their color. They are categorized in the sheet by their skin in order to circumvent bias, by reserving slots for all races. Why is it wrong that white people get a dedicated slot in a college as well as people of color?
It isnt, you’re just mad that most college applicants are white and have the highest enrollment rate. So competition is actually competitive, rather than just being accepted over the black ones.
Make your own history though.
Why must there be special places, devided by sexual orientation and skin color? Are non-white/non straight people less smart so they need special slots? How is that “equality”?
Also I’m sorry, but as a non native English speaker I fail to understand what you meant by the last paragraphs. Also, I don’t know your name and I’m not sure I care.
It guarantees a slot regardless of prejudice since you cannot check bias at the selection level. Instead you create a reserve to guarantee certain people who have a harder time reaching this goal - genuinely get considered.
They would be marginalized and overlooked purely through selection bias along with odds. Most colored folks have harder odds of ever even making it to college. Money, support structures, and other variables are hugely different. The same game, different difficulties.
That’s why collegiate schools work as an interview most times - it is to understand your struggle. It is the time to tell your tale, sell yourself, elaborate and intrigue. That’s why your friend failed.
You’re just making an excuse for him. He is not the cream of the crop, and you made it about race. So i guess you’re upset he’s not the brightest of the whites? And it’d be rude to make him actually take any accountability for his failure.
Both sides, as in, the fair, balanced, and upbringing right view, and the evil menace to society that’s the destroying left sickos.
You know, being neutral and all that.
“we should hear both sides!” Is and always has been an argument from people who know they are wrong, who want to pollute the available information from the people who are right.
Man who runs second biggest Nazi bar reliant on Nazi money. More at 11.
Notice the “free market” vanishes when it’s a thing they don’t like. Suddenly we need strong authority to ensure it’s “fair”.
What are you talking about?
Hate and Love, sure…