interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
on 12 Sep 21:09
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Soon only the dark web will have it.
I mean, I don’t like seeing that shit,
but I also don’t like living in make-belief land
where the horrors of life are kept hidden
by our well-meaning overlord
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
on 12 Sep 09:56
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I hate when they delete stuff, like… do you want conspiracy theories to spread? Because that’s how conspiracy theories spread.
It’s all about controlling how people see the world.
If we’re only exposed to “disney, safe for china” media, then that’s all people will think the world consists of.
They (people richer than us) don’t want us seeing the reality of guns, only their carefully curated fantasies.
Glitchvid@lemmy.world
on 12 Sep 10:50
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I agree with this viscerally.
A lot of people are expressing sympathy for the people in the Kirk crowd, but honestly I think it might be a good thing for them — to see first hand what Kirk and the Republican rhetoric is actually advocating for. Maybe it’ll snap them out of the fantasies they have of culling “undesirables”.
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 12 Sep 11:40
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If they are mentally capable of making the connection between the things he advocated for, and those things happening directly to him.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Sep 10:14
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Links? I missed the whole thing
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 12 Sep 11:40
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It’s very gruesome. I was not prepared.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social
on 12 Sep 11:46
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Which is odd you know? I thought “meh I’ve seen some sick shit” but nope. One minute he’s a racist accelerationist bigot and the next moment he still is but his brain is clearly whack and blood is rushing down his neck.
Movies and videogames don’t come remotely close to representing it accurately
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 12 Sep 11:56
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I’ve even see other videos of people getting killed before, and they were not this bad. Not often; I’m not someone who generally seeks that stuff out. Maybe it’s because of the bright lighting, high clarity, and comparatively high resolution of this one, combined with a gunshot wound that had very gory and visible results.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
on 12 Sep 12:22
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I think what gets people about this one is the large amount of blood that comes from severing a major artery like that and it funneling out through such a focused point followed by how quickly he reacts, goes into shock, then goes limp.
Most gore people get to see, even the real stuff, is much more initially destructive. So the blood goes everywhere all at once and there is very little time or ability to see the immediate reaction of the injured person.
For me, most of the worst stuff I’ve seen that is not tv/movie make believe that was the most unsettling had very little gore in the traditional sense. It was the reaction of the person that got injured that made it unsettling and the slow realization they make of what happened and is currently happening. There is a much more calm yet panicked tone to it than someone getting ran over by a tank or their head cut off by a terrorist.
For me it’s mostly how the body reacts to the bullet, the hands going up a little Ina reflex, but you can see he’s already lost control of his body. That part is always what gets me
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works
on 12 Sep 21:14
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Yeah that was unexpected and really fucked me up mentally.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Sep 15:03
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Meh. Not that bad. Glad to see dude go.
Zios are murdering kds and their whole families every day. That’s something that’s actually gruesome.
Kirk also helped organized and bussed people to the Capitol. It’s not just opinions.
But also, yes, if your opinion is certain people should cease to exist simply because they’re not white, I will think that person themselves should cease to exist in turn.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Sep 10:38
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Fucker got what he deserved, I watch it over and over and I feel absolutely nothing for him, no empathy, no connection, no “we’re all made of the same stuff” thing, he is a threat, neutralized.
I would’ve in fact - been very pleasantly surprised if a leftist did this because it meant someone out there with a head on their shoulders getting off their ass to fight for what’s right, and what’s right is to subdue the threat of the political right, if the means of peaceful discussion, debate and correcting misinformation have failed us, then by any remaining means is fine by me.
His political thought is that me and mine should be eradicated - so forgive my thought that he should be.
As it stands, I feel that this infighting thinning out their ranks is the most uplifting news these days.
He seems an adept shooter. I’d bet he was aiming for center mass like a good little sniper. But one can hardly ask the local range if he can practice from their sloping roof out to 250 yards.
Steve@startrek.website
on 12 Sep 14:09
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Directed by Quentin Tarantino
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world
on 13 Sep 05:36
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It’s even funnier now we know the shooter was a right wing gun nut.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 14 Sep 10:36
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Thanks.
waldo_was_here@piefed.social
on 12 Sep 10:50
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Charlie has so many videos saying “release the Epstein files” that I’m suprise Lefty’s aren’t capitalizing on them. Plus so many others where he says things that can be clipped. Like think of the collecting rrrreeeeeeeeeee from these fucks if Lefty’s were posting pro gun clips of him under all their fake empathy posts
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Sep 15:00
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Leftists might try to capitalize on Epstein.
But liberals aren’t leftists. The liberal establishment won’t promote the Epstein story because liberals are also deeply implicated.
Similarly liberals collaborate with fascists. They’re not going to be trolling them. They’re going to be memorializing kirk and calling for “civility” or whatever the fuck. NPR did like a full day of Kirk memorialization.
So yes, libs are less than worthless. But that has nothing to do with leftism.
We’re watching the world slip further and further into the opinion that Charlie Kirk was a good man. There’s no resistance to anything they say anymore because we’re all on Lemmy and mastodon where nobody but us are.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
on 12 Sep 16:05
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No matter what Kirk is going to be saintwashed by the right. Don’t forget that they will always build their preferred reality around themselves. I get your frustration but it’s important to remember that nothing you say will ever change a rightists mind. God itself could appear in the sky and tell off every evil, self-centered, delusional rightist to their face and they would still find a way to ignore it. Speech doesn’t work on rightists. Logic doesn’t work on rightists. Hard evidence doesn’t work on rightists.
This is why all the leftists on Lemmy are calling for impactful forms of protest. Until we get in the streets and shut everything down and impact their lives and livelihoods and stock prices nobody is going to negotiate. Power is all they recognize, and they are going to do everything they can to make sure we don’t have any.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
on 12 Sep 22:44
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You think that all of the leftists are on Lemmy and Mastodon? I wish.
Do you have a link to one of those videos? I have someone I might be able to make go against Trump via a different conspiracy with that, since that’s their main issue with Trump now
Because censorship of topical newsworthy events is antithetical to freedom. Sure first the censorship will start with “gruesome” but it won’t stop there, let people opt out, but it shouldn’t be scrubbed from existence.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
on 12 Sep 13:56
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Incite further right wing rage?
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 Sep 15:05
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“Fighting hortler will only make him more angry…”
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
on 12 Sep 14:01
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threaded - newest
It’s still up, in some places.
I found it on wikipedia of all places
Why not? It seems like an appropriate place.
They had a whole edit war about whether it should be included and locked the article.
What was the resolution?
Looks like they’ve decided against inclusion. It’s also unlikely the video meets “fair use” standards so they’d have to delete it anyway…
I couldn’t find the discussion on both talk pages (for personal article and the killing article)
It’s been moved to the archive but is linked on top of the talk page:
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&oldid=1310806… / en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…/Archive_2#Including_the_v…
Soon only the dark web will have it.
I mean, I don’t like seeing that shit,
but I also don’t like living in make-belief land
where the horrors of life are kept hidden
by our well-meaning overlord
I hate when they delete stuff, like… do you want conspiracy theories to spread? Because that’s how conspiracy theories spread.
It’s all about controlling how people see the world.
If we’re only exposed to “disney, safe for china” media, then that’s all people will think the world consists of.
They (people richer than us) don’t want us seeing the reality of guns, only their carefully curated fantasies.
I agree with this viscerally.
A lot of people are expressing sympathy for the people in the Kirk crowd, but honestly I think it might be a good thing for them — to see first hand what Kirk and the Republican rhetoric is actually advocating for. Maybe it’ll snap them out of the fantasies they have of culling “undesirables”.
If they are mentally capable of making the connection between the things he advocated for, and those things happening directly to him.
My guess: they’ll use this as their latest example of the “violent left” without evidence, as is tradition
Yeah this is widely applied. From ag-gag laws that hide the brutality of animal torture/murder to the killing of journalists in palestine. ETC.
People in the imperial core are constantly shielded from the reality of their “culture”.
the problem is that due to the algorithmic nature of social media it ends up getting pushed to people who don't want to see it.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b8c29070-77dc-4e31-817f-90384685a4a8.webp">
Links? I missed the whole thing
It’s very gruesome. I was not prepared.
Which is odd you know? I thought “meh I’ve seen some sick shit” but nope. One minute he’s a racist accelerationist bigot and the next moment he still is but his brain is clearly whack and blood is rushing down his neck.
Movies and videogames don’t come remotely close to representing it accurately
I’ve even see other videos of people getting killed before, and they were not this bad. Not often; I’m not someone who generally seeks that stuff out. Maybe it’s because of the bright lighting, high clarity, and comparatively high resolution of this one, combined with a gunshot wound that had very gory and visible results.
I think what gets people about this one is the large amount of blood that comes from severing a major artery like that and it funneling out through such a focused point followed by how quickly he reacts, goes into shock, then goes limp.
Most gore people get to see, even the real stuff, is much more initially destructive. So the blood goes everywhere all at once and there is very little time or ability to see the immediate reaction of the injured person.
For me, most of the worst stuff I’ve seen that is not tv/movie make believe that was the most unsettling had very little gore in the traditional sense. It was the reaction of the person that got injured that made it unsettling and the slow realization they make of what happened and is currently happening. There is a much more calm yet panicked tone to it than someone getting ran over by a tank or their head cut off by a terrorist.
Kirk’s killer seems to have used some large calibre weapon which probably made it look so particularly brutal and bloody.
It was a .30-06, a 7.62mm round, similar to an AK-47 (ARs uses5.56mm). They make big exit wounds.
Given how close the round hit to his brain and the fact that it hit a major artery, he likely died due to the hydrostatic shock from the impact.
He likely didn’t even know he was hit, he was seizing immediately and all of his body motion after the impact was involuntary.
For me it’s mostly how the body reacts to the bullet, the hands going up a little Ina reflex, but you can see he’s already lost control of his body. That part is always what gets me
Yeah that was unexpected and really fucked me up mentally.
Meh. Not that bad. Glad to see dude go.
Zios are murdering kds and their whole families every day. That’s something that’s actually gruesome.
So you believe that people should get murdered for expressing their opinions, got it.
You can disagree with political violence and also not be upset that he’s dead.
Conflating the two is disingenuous
Kirk also helped organized and bussed people to the Capitol. It’s not just opinions.
But also, yes, if your opinion is certain people should cease to exist simply because they’re not white, I will think that person themselves should cease to exist in turn.
Fucker got what he deserved, I watch it over and over and I feel absolutely nothing for him, no empathy, no connection, no “we’re all made of the same stuff” thing, he is a threat, neutralized.
I would’ve in fact - been very pleasantly surprised if a leftist did this because it meant someone out there with a head on their shoulders getting off their ass to fight for what’s right, and what’s right is to subdue the threat of the political right, if the means of peaceful discussion, debate and correcting misinformation have failed us, then by any remaining means is fine by me.
His political thought is that me and mine should be eradicated - so forgive my thought that he should be.
As it stands, I feel that this infighting thinning out their ranks is the most uplifting news these days.
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Meh. I guess I’ve watched too many Russians getting merked in Ukraine.
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Warning: Very NSFW!
Sheeeesh
Yeah, no desire to see it myself. I was on the fence about reporting a still shot I saw on IG. Don’t suppress but don’t advertise.
I hadn’t watched it till now… yuck!
but probably something anyone that wants to talk about this should see
but it got me thinking, I think the shooter was aiming for his mouth and the drift made the shot hit a little lower
He seems an adept shooter. I’d bet he was aiming for center mass like a good little sniper. But one can hardly ask the local range if he can practice from their sloping roof out to 250 yards.
Directed by Quentin Tarantino
It’s even funnier now we know the shooter was a right wing gun nut.
Thanks.
Where epstein files ?
Charlie has so many videos saying “release the Epstein files” that I’m suprise Lefty’s aren’t capitalizing on them. Plus so many others where he says things that can be clipped. Like think of the collecting rrrreeeeeeeeeee from these fucks if Lefty’s were posting pro gun clips of him under all their fake empathy posts
Leftists might try to capitalize on Epstein.
But liberals aren’t leftists. The liberal establishment won’t promote the Epstein story because liberals are also deeply implicated.
Similarly liberals collaborate with fascists. They’re not going to be trolling them. They’re going to be memorializing kirk and calling for “civility” or whatever the fuck. NPR did like a full day of Kirk memorialization.
So yes, libs are less than worthless. But that has nothing to do with leftism.
I just want to say you’re a problem. I view you the same way I view Charlie Kirk
I am seeing a huge amount of that on Lemmy and Mastodon.
Right, so the end result is what?
We’re watching the world slip further and further into the opinion that Charlie Kirk was a good man. There’s no resistance to anything they say anymore because we’re all on Lemmy and mastodon where nobody but us are.
No matter what Kirk is going to be saintwashed by the right. Don’t forget that they will always build their preferred reality around themselves. I get your frustration but it’s important to remember that nothing you say will ever change a rightists mind. God itself could appear in the sky and tell off every evil, self-centered, delusional rightist to their face and they would still find a way to ignore it. Speech doesn’t work on rightists. Logic doesn’t work on rightists. Hard evidence doesn’t work on rightists.
This is why all the leftists on Lemmy are calling for impactful forms of protest. Until we get in the streets and shut everything down and impact their lives and livelihoods and stock prices nobody is going to negotiate. Power is all they recognize, and they are going to do everything they can to make sure we don’t have any.
You think that all of the leftists are on Lemmy and Mastodon? I wish.
No I think most left all social spaces but a few that left ended up here.
Do you have a link to one of those videos? I have someone I might be able to make go against Trump via a different conspiracy with that, since that’s their main issue with Trump now
Here is a video from his own site
Because censorship of topical newsworthy events is antithetical to freedom. Sure first the censorship will start with “gruesome” but it won’t stop there, let people opt out, but it shouldn’t be scrubbed from existence.
Incite further right wing rage?
“Fighting hortler will only make him more angry…”
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/35af4004-217e-4fdc-8b4e-e0bf61da4ae2.jpeg">
I’m stealing this! Respectfully.
Me too!
Release the Trump/Epstein files
Saved you a click.
Because very few people are really outraged about a malfunctioning human getting deleted.
It’s news and the adults in the room have not just a right but a responsibility to remain informed.