PunnyName@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2024 23:24
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Sue the fucking landlord. While looking for another place to stay.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2024 23:49
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Youâd be more effective taking all of that cash and flushing it down the toilet. It would have the same result, and it would force the landlord to pay for a plumber.
henfredemars@infosec.pub
on 16 Feb 2024 01:35
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Your mandatory arbitration clause would like a word with you.
The landlord can do bulk billing, and they can refuse to allow other companies to service the property. As a tenant the first one doesnât mean you have to buy in to that, and the second doesnât apply to wireless providers. Both things are a basis to sue.
Also this was a simple search away. Please do the simple searching yourself from now on.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 03:50
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This is an addendum to the original lease. They donât have to sign it and the landlord still has to honor the terms of the original lease.
flawedFraction@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 00:28
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Also this was a simple search away. Please do the simple searching yourself from now on.
Please donât post one word comments and then get annoyed when someone asks you to elaborate.
DahGangalang@infosec.pub
on 16 Feb 2024 00:21
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So other commenters have opinions that I think are rational, but the part that I think is key that theyâre missing: Tenant Unions.
I have some (in my opinion) tyrannical yet lazy land lords/property managers at my current apt, and have attempted to form a tenant union. Apparently no one agrees with my level of disgust at our treatment, so Iâve kind of wiffed at the effort.
Which is to say that it takes real work, but it can be done and there are resources for you, but thatâs the first step: donât go alone.
terminhell@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2024 23:55
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Dare I say, but this could be use case for something like starlink. Of course, also mounting the dish with non-penatrating mount or in ground mount.
corbin@infosec.pub
on 16 Feb 2024 00:01
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Starlink wouldnât change anything in terms of cost, if a specific ISP is force-bundled into a lease then it doesnât matter which alternatives exist. There isnât a technical solution to this problem, only a legal one.
terminhell@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 00:59
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I guess, ya if the service is bundled in the lease and non negotiable/declineable sure. But not every apartment complex is like this. Sure, they may limit you to one or two options. But I still think it would be a viable alternative.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
on 16 Feb 2024 00:05
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Starlink is not a replacement for cable, fiber, or good 5G.
Disagree. Do you have one? I do. Itâs an incredible piece of technology.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 00:19
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Itâs incredible as long as everything is 100% optimal. Because my co workerâs yard has trees just barely too tall around it his connection drops all the time. Heavy storms also cause issues
When it works itâs great. But it doesnât always work. 5g is MUCH more reliable than Starlink.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
on 16 Feb 2024 00:38
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Yes, I have Starlink. Itâs significantly better than the DSL I had, but I will switch to fiber the instant it becomes available here.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 02:10
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Donât let perfect be the enemy of good
henfredemars@infosec.pub
on 16 Feb 2024 01:28
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The service is incapable of handling dense urban environments which are more common with apartments.
n3m37h@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Feb 2024 00:41
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I opted to send back my starlink unit because Bells wireless connection at 40/10 was more stable and had less than 1/2 the jitter
GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 00:45
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Internet should be public like many other utilities.
Sanctus@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 01:20
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This is the only answer
red_pigeon@lemm.ee
on 16 Feb 2024 01:24
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Wonât they start pulling more and more tax for it then ? Having it private keeps the competition at least, wouldnât you agree ?
Usernameblankface@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 01:27
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Not where I live. All private Internet, but very limited choices that all keep getting more and more expensive.
VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 01:59
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They also tend to deliberately stay out of each otherâs service areas so they can ramp up prices with de facto local monopolies.
henfredemars@infosec.pub
on 16 Feb 2024 01:33
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Your taxes already subsidize it. You just donât see any benefits for your money in the current system because they pocket it without making upgrades.
What competition? Tax me and give me fucking municipal fiber instead of giving giant paychecks to wealthy assholes who invest nothing in improving the service but raise everyoneâs rates regardless.
marx2k@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 03:49
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Ah yes competition. I get to choose between two providers, charter and at&t. Same price, about the same speeds.
Please tell us how âkeeping it privateâ ensures competition and prevents monopolies. For extra credit, let us know WHO is responsible for preventing monopolies.
Where Iâm from if it goes public Iâm sure the govt is going to take advantage of it with piss poor speeds. When itâs private, at least there are companies competing with decent speeds even though itâs expensive. Itâs a choice between the lesser of two evils.
Where Iâm from private is slower, more expensive, capped, and throttled. Public is faster, cheaper, unlimited and unregulated. And private lobbyâs/bribes politicians to put laws in place preventing public.
rusticus@lemm.ee
on 16 Feb 2024 04:23
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lol. Net neutrality and FCCs Ajit Pai. Educate yourself bra.
fapforce5@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 05:06
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I donât think you understand what decentralized means
itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 16 Feb 2024 05:26
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Not nearly as much as it should be. In many places certain ISPs have near monopolies over internet access, and domains and dns used on the web are managed by ICANN. Sure, thereâs alternatives to that, but barely anyone knows or uses them
admin@lemmy.my-box.dev
on 16 Feb 2024 07:05
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Not to mention things like Cloudflare, AWS, and GCP.
I understand what youâre saying but it feels wrong to lump Cloudflare in with Google and Amazon. Clouflare, thus far anyway, has been mostly a force of good for the internet.
admin@lemmy.my-box.dev
on 16 Feb 2024 23:15
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So was Google in its first decade or so. Hell, Iâll even grant that AWS, GCP and k8s have been mostly benevolent. But these parties becoming near monopolies for hosting or routing is costing a price of centralization.
Companies having a geographic monopoly over access to the internet doesnât change the fact that the Internet as a whole is decentralized.
That being said, yes, something should be done about ISPs.
lengau@midwest.social
on 16 Feb 2024 04:47
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Cries in having a for-profit, NYSE traded electric utility
Bocky@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 05:41
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The internet is free and public. You can go to any mcdonalds and go all the internetting you want. At home, its all the buried cabled that have to be checked on and maintained that you have to pay for.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 16 Feb 2024 21:33
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Lmfao you think they actually maintain that shit? They dont check on it, thatâs part of the problem.
PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 01:00
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How the fuck can they not compete with 5G? Is using the advantages of their wired infrastructure to just provide customers with the same service as always but without the bandwidth caps, effectively overcoming the 1 major disadvantage of mobile internet, really that hard?
Socsa@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Feb 2024 01:57
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Cable definitely does have a capacity and speed advantage over 5G in most cases. But 5G is plenty fast and reliable for most people these days, and itâs cheaper because there is no last mile maintenance. T-Mobile doesnât need to repair a bunch of decades old coax line every time the wind blows.
They spent it all blocking access to the fiber lines that are already there and padding the wallets of their execs.
ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Feb 2024 10:38
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Iâve seen that last mile, youâre lucky if the cable is buried more than one shovel length down. Itâs the tech equivalent of the porn trope of using spit for lube.
TimeSquirrel@kbin.social
on 16 Feb 2024 11:25
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Depends on where you live. Here in the city I live, the last mile is in underground conduit next to power, water, and sewer lines. It transitions to pole-mounted at the suburbs.
I get 1600Mbps down, 180 up on my 5G home internet (for $60/mo). The fastest cable can offer here is 600 down, 30 up (for $120/mo).
So yeah, Iâd say 5G is fast enough for most people. It maxes out my ethernet ports. I have to use wifi to hit my bandwidth cap. Eventually I will upgrade to 2.5G ethernet.
mellowheat@suppo.fi
on 16 Feb 2024 06:47
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I think if you allow a bit of simplification, itâs essentially the same thing as Ethernet vs Wireless as your home network solution. The other is slightly better in performance and reliability but way less flexible. Thatâs why 5G is winning.
ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works
on 16 Feb 2024 10:33
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How the fuck can they not compete with 5G?
According to the article, for the last few decades the cable and telecommunications companies have avoided upgrading infrastructure to increase profit margins, while wireless companies have been building and upgrading towers like mad. Wireless companies have also successfully lobbied to gobble up a bunch of frequency allocation to increase their bandwidth.
Default_Defect@midwest.social
on 16 Feb 2024 20:11
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5g is by far the best option in my shitty small town in Iowa. The two wired options are more than twice as expensive for less than half of the speed.
henfredemars@infosec.pub
on 16 Feb 2024 01:32
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The fact that this is even legal shows how incredibly weak the regulations are. They are essentially non-existent, with the consumer ripe for maximum exploitation. Just forcing people to buy is legal at this point huh?
Incidentally, Spectrum is my only choice thanks to an exclusivity agreement, but we arenât forced to pay. We can actually opt out at our location. 5G home internet is way more reliable and faster in my area.
Sounds like cable is just in its natural death throes and will be gone soon. Markets will take care of this too, if we just let them: i.e. donât let cable companies lobby against 5G etc.
Theyâll still have some role since 5G practically requires fiber optics as its backbone anyway.
shalafi@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 02:13
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The property owner had the right to enter into such agreements.
The prospective renter does not have to rent that place.
Sounds fair to me.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 03:47
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This is an addendum. The renter has the right to refuse to sign it and the leasor still has to honor the original lease. Iâm assuming the signature portion is cropped out. But if thereâs no signature line provided, that some real shady business.
In my case it was an addendum to the lease renewal, so it was a completely new agreement. The only other option was leaving after my original lease was up but Iâm not in a position to do that right now.
dohpaz42@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 03:28
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People need to start speaking out more against this type of behavior, and I donât just mean in blogs and forums. I mean write the FCC, write the Attorney Generals in your state. Dare i say, write your congressmen (yeah, mine are the apathetic, pro-business politicians who donât really care about the little people too).
Make some noise folks.
Seriously, companies like this get away with these shenanigans because we the people have been beaten into submission for so long that we believe we are powerless (Iâm guilty of feeling this way). We need to start changing that. And nothing is easier than writing letters these days.
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 03:57
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Just like the cable TV companies that will stop at nothing to trap their customers in their overpriced af prison?
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 05:49
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Theyâre the same companies.
nothingcorporate@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 06:31
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This is the stupidest timeline.
computerscientistI@lemm.ee
on 16 Feb 2024 06:58
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Why is this legal? What kind of shithole country allows this?
NateNate60@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 08:06
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It is a loophole in the current Federal Communications Commissionâs regulations, where these kinds of deals are supposed to be forbidden. The Commission doesnât seem to like it either and may close the loophole in the future, but the regulatory process takes time.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de
on 16 Feb 2024 08:36
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The usual shithole country where capitalism and the free market has been allowed to run completely rampant. In Germany itâs even illegal to not allow users to use their own modem and router. You are entitled to use any company that serves your street. It might take a while longer if your building isnât connected yet, but a landlord canât just prevent you from choosing a company. Same with electricity providers.
OwenEverbinde@lemmy.myserv.one
on 16 Feb 2024 07:16
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Alternatively, itâs possible cell companies like T-Mobile will lobby against these anticompetitive agreements, since it does reduce their number of potential customers. I donât like cell company lobbying any more than ISP lobbying, but in this case, let them fight.
Something tells me T-Mobileâs got a little too much class solidarity to have any interest in reducing the profits of Charter Communications.
son_named_bort@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 14:47
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Why would T-Mobile reduce their own potential profits to ensure that Charter continues to have higher profits?
nevemsenki@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 08:43
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Itâs so weird to read these articles. I live in a shithole country, but even here fibre internet with 2.5gbps speeds is easily available⌠5G ainât bad but against it never feels replacing that kind of connection for me.
accideath@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 09:22
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Well, I live in Germany and I know quite a few people who have internet so bad IPoAC would be a valid option.
You can get fibre but A itâs fucking expensive and B you need to live somewhere where there actually is fibre. Most people either have DSL or cable. DSL is âslowâ (depending where you live up to 250mbps. Most places only get up to 100mbps) and expensive (although not as expensive as fibre). And cable is fast (up to Gigabit) and a bit cheaper but the biggest pile of garbage Iâve ever seen.
Pantherina@feddit.de
on 16 Feb 2024 09:36
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I see Avian carrier I upvote
nevemsenki@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 10:03
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Yeah, travelling to Germany a few times, even data always sucks, both wifi and mobile. We joked that Germany has the beet economy in EU because the net is so bad people donât waste so much time on FacebookâŚ
accideath@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 10:20
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Mobile data highly depends on the carrier. We have three distinct mobile networks: D1 (Telekom), D2 (Vodafone) and E (TelefĂłnica aka O2) and Telekom is the best by far and O2 is a joke although comparably cheap.
We used to have four but about ten years ago (whoa, time flies) TelefĂłnica bought the fourth carrier, e-Plus and the E1 and E2 networks merged. Probably was a smart business move because theyâve become less of a joke since.
nexusband@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 20:05
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As a customer of both Telekom and O2, i highly disagreeâŚthe Telekom net most of the times is shittier than the O2 one - even though the O2 one sometimes looses connection all together, in those cases the Telekom connection doesnât have Internet at all either.
accideath@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 22:43
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Maybe itâs a regional thing but my experience is Telekom 5G always and O2 5G maybe if youâre in a big city (or just randomly in that one 200 inhabitants village), 4G usually most places and EDGE even where none else has service.
daniyeg@lemmy.ml
on 16 Feb 2024 09:35
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here we are getting some limited â5Gâ (bandwidth is fucked itâs basically early 4G speeds but with a 5G written at the top) here and there, but most cable connections are still on ADSL2. if you want fibre you have to pay for replacing the cables and congratulations now your bandwidth maybe increased from 8 Mbps to 16 Mbps but now your data cap costs are twice more expensive and you basically limited your choice to 1 or 2 ISPs.
the irony is now that almost everyone are on the mobile network the speeds are basically the same as landline connections but data caps are much more expensive. internet here is just fucked.
AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml
on 16 Feb 2024 09:48
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mostly around my university but i have also seen the 5G symbol pop up at random places. itâs never consistent though outside uni. the speeds are almost the same as 4.5G so it really doesnât matter.
UnityDevice@startrek.website
on 16 Feb 2024 10:48
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It actually seems common for less developed countries to have better internet than the more developed ones. Germans always complain about their internet, for example. I believe the reason is simply that your country laid down lines relatively recently, so theyâre compatible with high speed internet, while Germany laid down their lines 30 years ago, so theyâre fairly shitty in comparison. It tends to be a lot harder to convince governments or bosses to replace something that seems to work fine, and it can be costlier too.
madcaesar@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 11:27
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Yea its similar to why the electrical lines and plugs suck in the US, they were just here at GEN 1,while others had to wait so they got better versions.
nexusband@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 20:03
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It has absolutely nothing to do with the lines, but the headends. Coax is very capable of transmitting lots of Data fast. Due to the tree topology of cable however, the headends have to be extremely fast. If everyone on the tree of 100 has 1000 Mbit, that headend needs to have 100 Gbit of capacity. Most of those headends however cap out at 10 Gbit and sometimes service up to 300-500 ports. German cable providers cheaped out and didnât upgrade their infrastructure for quite a while. The coax line technology didnât change in the last 30 years.
German cable providers cheaped out and didnât upgrade their infrastructure for quite a while.
This is always the real reason.
Rich people being cheap.
RGB3x3@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 19:09
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I live in the US in a pretty large city and I would never even think to replace my fiber with 5G. Iâve never seen 5G get above 25 Mbps, when I was getting those speeds with COAX 10 years ago.
I pay for 1Gbps fiber now and will never go lower.
Khanzarate@lemmy.world
on 16 Feb 2024 19:28
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I wish I had fiber. I get 100 Mb from T-Mobile 5g and 80 from spectrum. Iâve had two significant gaps in coverage from T-Mobile, but I also had internet during a power outage with a generator and an extension cord, which was huge.
For 50$, Iâll take that over a more consistent 80mb for 100-120$.
Definitely a rural thing, less 5g congestion and all. a physical line makes way more sense in a city, ideally fiber, but 5g internet has a pretty big niche.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
on 16 Feb 2024 08:53
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Iâm paying 10 euros a month for the plan on my 4G router because even though I have fibre available aswell I just donât feel like paying 30⏠a month for it. 70 bucks however? Thatâs ridiculous.
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee
on 16 Feb 2024 10:31
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It can, in regards to network saturation in rural places that only have one tower whose use spikes during holidays, not to mention being immune to signal jammers and interference.
I have 5G home internet. Downloads are twice as fast (and uploads 8x faster) than cable hereâthe next fastest available serviceâfor half as much. No arbitrary bandwidth cap, either.
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Sue the fucking landlord. While looking for another place to stay.
Youâd be more effective taking all of that cash and flushing it down the toilet. It would have the same result, and it would force the landlord to pay for a plumber.
Your mandatory arbitration clause would like a word with you.
The landlord can do bulk billing, and they can refuse to allow other companies to service the property. As a tenant the first one doesnât mean you have to buy in to that, and the second doesnât apply to wireless providers. Both things are a basis to sue.
Also this was a simple search away. Please do the simple searching yourself from now on.
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This is an addendum to the original lease. They donât have to sign it and the landlord still has to honor the terms of the original lease.
Please donât post one word comments and then get annoyed when someone asks you to elaborate.
So other commenters have opinions that I think are rational, but the part that I think is key that theyâre missing: Tenant Unions.
I have some (in my opinion) tyrannical yet lazy land lords/property managers at my current apt, and have attempted to form a tenant union. Apparently no one agrees with my level of disgust at our treatment, so Iâve kind of wiffed at the effort.
Which is to say that it takes real work, but it can be done and there are resources for you, but thatâs the first step: donât go alone.
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Dare I say, but this could be use case for something like starlink. Of course, also mounting the dish with non-penatrating mount or in ground mount.
Starlink wouldnât change anything in terms of cost, if a specific ISP is force-bundled into a lease then it doesnât matter which alternatives exist. There isnât a technical solution to this problem, only a legal one.
I guess, ya if the service is bundled in the lease and non negotiable/declineable sure. But not every apartment complex is like this. Sure, they may limit you to one or two options. But I still think it would be a viable alternative.
Starlink is not a replacement for cable, fiber, or good 5G.
Disagree. Do you have one? I do. Itâs an incredible piece of technology.
Itâs incredible as long as everything is 100% optimal. Because my co workerâs yard has trees just barely too tall around it his connection drops all the time. Heavy storms also cause issues
When it works itâs great. But it doesnât always work. 5g is MUCH more reliable than Starlink.
Yes, I have Starlink. Itâs significantly better than the DSL I had, but I will switch to fiber the instant it becomes available here.
Donât let perfect be the enemy of good
The service is incapable of handling dense urban environments which are more common with apartments.
Itâs not designed for that
I opted to send back my starlink unit because Bells wireless connection at 40/10 was more stable and had less than 1/2 the jitter
Internet should be public like many other utilities.
This is the only answer
Wonât they start pulling more and more tax for it then ? Having it private keeps the competition at least, wouldnât you agree ?
Not where I live. All private Internet, but very limited choices that all keep getting more and more expensive.
They also tend to deliberately stay out of each otherâs service areas so they can ramp up prices with de facto local monopolies.
Your taxes already subsidize it. You just donât see any benefits for your money in the current system because they pocket it without making upgrades.
I guess to answer that, wonder if your water, electric, or waste companies are gouging you. If they are, like in Texas, then yeah maybe?
Everywhere I lived, people and voting have strong control over utilities and they are fairly priced because itâs a service not a business
ISPs in the US are notorious for getting public funds for services that they never provide, so I wouldnât be too concerned about that.
Exactly. Theyâre getting massive handouts from our money. Letâs cut out the middlemen and pay a utility directly.
Where I use to live was all private. CenturyLink was the only option as they had an agreement with Comcast that Comcast wouldn't come into my area.
I paid $60/month for 500kbps down. Yes kilobits.
What competition? Tax me and give me fucking municipal fiber instead of giving giant paychecks to wealthy assholes who invest nothing in improving the service but raise everyoneâs rates regardless.
Ah yes competition. I get to choose between two providers, charter and at&t. Same price, about the same speeds.
Please tell us how âkeeping it privateâ ensures competition and prevents monopolies. For extra credit, let us know WHO is responsible for preventing monopolies.
Where did I say it prevents monopolies ?
Where Iâm from if it goes public Iâm sure the govt is going to take advantage of it with piss poor speeds. When itâs private, at least there are companies competing with decent speeds even though itâs expensive. Itâs a choice between the lesser of two evils.
Where Iâm from private is slower, more expensive, capped, and throttled. Public is faster, cheaper, unlimited and unregulated. And private lobbyâs/bribes politicians to put laws in place preventing public.
The internet should be entirely decentralized. We have the technology.
The internet IS decentralized.
lol. Net neutrality and FCCs Ajit Pai. Educate yourself bra.
I donât think you understand what decentralized means
Not nearly as much as it should be. In many places certain ISPs have near monopolies over internet access, and domains and dns used on the web are managed by ICANN. Sure, thereâs alternatives to that, but barely anyone knows or uses them
Not to mention things like Cloudflare, AWS, and GCP.
I understand what youâre saying but it feels wrong to lump Cloudflare in with Google and Amazon. Clouflare, thus far anyway, has been mostly a force of good for the internet.
So was Google in its first decade or so. Hell, Iâll even grant that AWS, GCP and k8s have been mostly benevolent. But these parties becoming near monopolies for hosting or routing is costing a price of centralization.
Companies having a geographic monopoly over access to the internet doesnât change the fact that the Internet as a whole is decentralized.
That being said, yes, something should be done about ISPs.
Cries in having a for-profit, NYSE traded electric utility
The internet is free and public. You can go to any mcdonalds and go all the internetting you want. At home, its all the buried cabled that have to be checked on and maintained that you have to pay for.
Lmfao you think they actually maintain that shit? They dont check on it, thatâs part of the problem.
hm, i didnât think about that yet, this is actually a pretty interesting thought.
I think we as a society need to have a debate about this.
I love how in the âFAQsâ of that agreement, there is no âwhy.â Which is surely the most F of the Aâd Qâs.
It is, in fact, the only Q I Aâd.
How the fuck can they not compete with 5G? Is using the advantages of their wired infrastructure to just provide customers with the same service as always but without the bandwidth caps, effectively overcoming the 1 major disadvantage of mobile internet, really that hard?
Cable definitely does have a capacity and speed advantage over 5G in most cases. But 5G is plenty fast and reliable for most people these days, and itâs cheaper because there is no last mile maintenance. T-Mobile doesnât need to repair a bunch of decades old coax line every time the wind blows.
Perhaps they should have invested in infrastructure with the government handouts they were given to do so?
They spent it all blocking access to the fiber lines that are already there and padding the wallets of their execs.
Iâve seen that last mile, youâre lucky if the cable is buried more than one shovel length down. Itâs the tech equivalent of the porn trope of using spit for lube.
Depends on where you live. Here in the city I live, the last mile is in underground conduit next to power, water, and sewer lines. It transitions to pole-mounted at the suburbs.
I get 1600Mbps down, 180 up on my 5G home internet (for $60/mo). The fastest cable can offer here is 600 down, 30 up (for $120/mo).
So yeah, Iâd say 5G is fast enough for most people. It maxes out my ethernet ports. I have to use wifi to hit my bandwidth cap. Eventually I will upgrade to 2.5G ethernet.
I think if you allow a bit of simplification, itâs essentially the same thing as Ethernet vs Wireless as your home network solution. The other is slightly better in performance and reliability but way less flexible. Thatâs why 5G is winning.
According to the article, for the last few decades the cable and telecommunications companies have avoided upgrading infrastructure to increase profit margins, while wireless companies have been building and upgrading towers like mad. Wireless companies have also successfully lobbied to gobble up a bunch of frequency allocation to increase their bandwidth.
5g is by far the best option in my shitty small town in Iowa. The two wired options are more than twice as expensive for less than half of the speed.
The fact that this is even legal shows how incredibly weak the regulations are. They are essentially non-existent, with the consumer ripe for maximum exploitation. Just forcing people to buy is legal at this point huh?
Incidentally, Spectrum is my only choice thanks to an exclusivity agreement, but we arenât forced to pay. We can actually opt out at our location. 5G home internet is way more reliable and faster in my area.
Regulate! All businesses are self-interested!
Sounds like cable is just in its natural death throes and will be gone soon. Markets will take care of this too, if we just let them: i.e. donât let cable companies lobby against 5G etc.
Theyâll still have some role since 5G practically requires fiber optics as its backbone anyway.
The property owner had the right to enter into such agreements.
The prospective renter does not have to rent that place.
Sounds fair to me.
This is an addendum. The renter has the right to refuse to sign it and the leasor still has to honor the original lease. Iâm assuming the signature portion is cropped out. But if thereâs no signature line provided, that some real shady business.
www.docusign.com/blog/guide-to-lease-addendums
In my case it was an addendum to the lease renewal, so it was a completely new agreement. The only other option was leaving after my original lease was up but Iâm not in a position to do that right now.
People need to start speaking out more against this type of behavior, and I donât just mean in blogs and forums. I mean write the FCC, write the Attorney Generals in your state. Dare i say, write your congressmen (yeah, mine are the apathetic, pro-business politicians who donât really care about the little people too).
Make some noise folks.
Seriously, companies like this get away with these shenanigans because we the people have been beaten into submission for so long that we believe we are powerless (Iâm guilty of feeling this way). We need to start changing that. And nothing is easier than writing letters these days.
File a Complaint With the Attorney General
File a Complaint - FCC
Just like the cable TV companies that will stop at nothing to trap their customers in their overpriced af prison?
Theyâre the same companies.
This is the stupidest timeline.
Why is this legal? What kind of shithole country allows this?
It is a loophole in the current Federal Communications Commissionâs regulations, where these kinds of deals are supposed to be forbidden. The Commission doesnât seem to like it either and may close the loophole in the future, but the regulatory process takes time.
The usual shithole country where capitalism and the free market has been allowed to run completely rampant. In Germany itâs even illegal to not allow users to use their own modem and router. You are entitled to use any company that serves your street. It might take a while longer if your building isnât connected yet, but a landlord canât just prevent you from choosing a company. Same with electricity providers.
Something tells me T-Mobileâs got a little too much class solidarity to have any interest in reducing the profits of Charter Communications.
Why would T-Mobile reduce their own potential profits to ensure that Charter continues to have higher profits?
Itâs so weird to read these articles. I live in a shithole country, but even here fibre internet with 2.5gbps speeds is easily available⌠5G ainât bad but against it never feels replacing that kind of connection for me.
Well, I live in Germany and I know quite a few people who have internet so bad IPoAC would be a valid option. You can get fibre but A itâs fucking expensive and B you need to live somewhere where there actually is fibre. Most people either have DSL or cable. DSL is âslowâ (depending where you live up to 250mbps. Most places only get up to 100mbps) and expensive (although not as expensive as fibre). And cable is fast (up to Gigabit) and a bit cheaper but the biggest pile of garbage Iâve ever seen.
I see Avian carrier I upvote
Yeah, travelling to Germany a few times, even data always sucks, both wifi and mobile. We joked that Germany has the beet economy in EU because the net is so bad people donât waste so much time on FacebookâŚ
Mobile data highly depends on the carrier. We have three distinct mobile networks: D1 (Telekom), D2 (Vodafone) and E (TelefĂłnica aka O2) and Telekom is the best by far and O2 is a joke although comparably cheap.
We used to have four but about ten years ago (whoa, time flies) TelefĂłnica bought the fourth carrier, e-Plus and the E1 and E2 networks merged. Probably was a smart business move because theyâve become less of a joke since.
As a customer of both Telekom and O2, i highly disagreeâŚthe Telekom net most of the times is shittier than the O2 one - even though the O2 one sometimes looses connection all together, in those cases the Telekom connection doesnât have Internet at all either.
Maybe itâs a regional thing but my experience is Telekom 5G always and O2 5G maybe if youâre in a big city (or just randomly in that one 200 inhabitants village), 4G usually most places and EDGE even where none else has service.
here we are getting some limited â5Gâ (bandwidth is fucked itâs basically early 4G speeds but with a 5G written at the top) here and there, but most cable connections are still on ADSL2. if you want fibre you have to pay for replacing the cables and congratulations now your bandwidth maybe increased from 8 Mbps to 16 Mbps but now your data cap costs are twice more expensive and you basically limited your choice to 1 or 2 ISPs.
the irony is now that almost everyone are on the mobile network the speeds are basically the same as landline connections but data caps are much more expensive. internet here is just fucked.
Iranian?
lmao yeah. long live Mokhaberat
When you said ADSL and 16Mbps I thought to myself no other country in the world could possibly share this experience
That makes two of us lol
Also where the fuck do you have 5G? I would consider myself lucky at 4.5G (but it works alright)
mostly around my university but i have also seen the 5G symbol pop up at random places. itâs never consistent though outside uni. the speeds are almost the same as 4.5G so it really doesnât matter.
It actually seems common for less developed countries to have better internet than the more developed ones. Germans always complain about their internet, for example. I believe the reason is simply that your country laid down lines relatively recently, so theyâre compatible with high speed internet, while Germany laid down their lines 30 years ago, so theyâre fairly shitty in comparison. It tends to be a lot harder to convince governments or bosses to replace something that seems to work fine, and it can be costlier too.
Yea its similar to why the electrical lines and plugs suck in the US, they were just here at GEN 1,while others had to wait so they got better versions.
It has absolutely nothing to do with the lines, but the headends. Coax is very capable of transmitting lots of Data fast. Due to the tree topology of cable however, the headends have to be extremely fast. If everyone on the tree of 100 has 1000 Mbit, that headend needs to have 100 Gbit of capacity. Most of those headends however cap out at 10 Gbit and sometimes service up to 300-500 ports. German cable providers cheaped out and didnât upgrade their infrastructure for quite a while. The coax line technology didnât change in the last 30 years.
This is always the real reason.
Rich people being cheap.
I live in the US in a pretty large city and I would never even think to replace my fiber with 5G. Iâve never seen 5G get above 25 Mbps, when I was getting those speeds with COAX 10 years ago.
I pay for 1Gbps fiber now and will never go lower.
I wish I had fiber. I get 100 Mb from T-Mobile 5g and 80 from spectrum. Iâve had two significant gaps in coverage from T-Mobile, but I also had internet during a power outage with a generator and an extension cord, which was huge.
For 50$, Iâll take that over a more consistent 80mb for 100-120$.
Definitely a rural thing, less 5g congestion and all. a physical line makes way more sense in a city, ideally fiber, but 5g internet has a pretty big niche.
I get 500 Mbps on 5G home Internet on a bad night. I would still take fiber over 5G any day, but it can be much better than youâve seen.
Damn, really? Thatâs actually shocking and impressive.
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Iâm paying 10 euros a month for the plan on my 4G router because even though I have fibre available aswell I just donât feel like paying 30⏠a month for it. 70 bucks however? Thatâs ridiculous.
It can, in regards to network saturation in rural places that only have one tower whose use spikes during holidays, not to mention being immune to signal jammers and interference.
I have 5G home internet. Downloads are twice as fast (and uploads 8x faster) than cable hereâthe next fastest available serviceâfor half as much. No arbitrary bandwidth cap, either.