autotldr@lemmings.world
on 14 Feb 2024 17:15
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Porn perusers will soon have to prove their age by uploading an identity document like a passport, registering a credit card, presenting their face to AI-powered scanning technology, or using a handful of other methods outlined in draft guidance from the regime’s regulator, Ofcom.
Although initially missing from the U.K.’s next attempt at internet regulation, pressure from children’s charities, age verification providers and vocal parliamentarians persuaded the government to revamp the defunct regime through the Online Safety Act.
Many videos depict graphic and degrading abuse of women, sickening acts of rape and incest, and many underage participants,” Tory MP Miriam Cates, a strong advocate for the legislation, told the House of Commons in September.
Research indicates younger kids who stumble across porn accidentally can find it shocking and disturbing — although the majority of young people surveyed in a 2020 British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) report said this didn’t impact them in the long term.
But the issue is complicated: the BBFC report found that older teens said they watched porn for educational purposes, due to a lack of information about sex in schools, or for gratification, while half of the LGBTQ+ respondents said it had helped them understand and explore their sexual identity.
“The squeamishness associated with pornography has made it nearly impossible to have a mature discussion about the technical feasibility, trade-offs, and effectiveness of age verification mandates,” says Matthew Lesh, director of public policy and communications at the free-market think tank.
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Would users really go to i2p instead of using a VPN?
shortwavesurfer@monero.town
on 15 Feb 2024 08:23
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Depends on how successful they are at banning the general VPN providers.
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
on 14 Feb 2024 17:54
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Research indicates younger ids who stumble across porn accidentally can find it shocking and disturbing although the majority of young people surveyed in a 2020 British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) report said this didn’t impact them in the long term.
Nobody is visiting porn sites accidentally anymore. This ain’t the 90s. They don’t pop up in any mainstream search engines by default.
Unless this includes not only porn sites but any site that might potentially host porn (like Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, or really any site with user-uploaded content), this argument is invalid (as well as specious).
camr_on@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2024 18:19
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I imagine that the kids of today are spending more time on one platform like Reddit or tiktok, so it becomes more up to the platforms to keep sexual content separate. I know it used to be easy to go on r/all and accidentally see porn, not sure if that’s a thing anymore
darkkite@lemmy.ml
on 14 Feb 2024 18:48
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reddit requires you to go out of your way to enable nsfw. tiktok is pretty heavy handed in moderation, but i still get some spam videos of nsfw content
XioR112@lemmy.ml
on 15 Feb 2024 06:26
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Wow, what a boldly inaccurate take. How can you possibly believe this? Do you never interact with children? Just a few weeks ago a teacher gave out a URL that had a typo in it to my nephew’s middle school class and sure enough it was a porn site. In 2024 no less. IT didn’t even block the site. Porn is far too easy to find online inadvertently, case in point turn off safe search on any popular search engine. LOL “nobody is visiting porn sites inadvertently these days”, thanks- needed that today lol
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org
on 14 Feb 2024 20:25
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Turning off safe search requires explicit action, so I wouldn’t consider that accidental.
I typically have safesearch turned off and I recently had DuckDuckGo give me porn I wasn’t looking for for two image search queries (Google did not give me porn):
Tiny spy camera (I actually wanted images of cameras)
Ficken liquor (“Ficken” is German for “to fuck”; I was looking for images of the alcoholic beverage so named)
Of course, I’ve been on the internet for a while and was neither shocked nor offended.
tsonfeir@lemm.ee
on 14 Feb 2024 20:52
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I’m gonna call bullshit. I want to know the two urls. It was a few weeks ago so this should be easy information to get.
Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org
on 15 Feb 2024 06:25
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It’s plausible. Could have been a low-effort typosquatting site loaded with porn ads.
Wolf_359@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2024 02:17
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I’m not saying it never happens, but it’s not a super common occurrence.
And even if it is, locking down the entire internet and monitoring people in an Orwellian fashion isn’t the government’s job.
What happened back in the day when kids walked in on their parents doing the deed? What did the parents do when their child snuck a passage of Shakespeare and read all the filthy jokes he wrote?
Oh, they spoke to the kids and guided them through a normal part of life?
I have a son. I would like for him to not see graphic images on the Internet. But when he does, I will explain to him that human beings have sex (which is why he exists). I will tell him that sometimes people like to watch videos about it because it feels good to them. I will explain to him that it’s fake, just like the action movies and violence he sees on TV. I will tell him it’s nothing like that in reality and I will explain to him that he’s not ready to see that material yet.
Fascists always gain control by offering “safety.” Ironically, they’re more dangerous than the thing they claim to protect you from.
Yeah, making a government list of porn watchers with their watch history available is 100% going to be abused. It will not turn out well.
lol iirc there was a case where a domain name for some website expired, so hundreds of ukrainian language textbooks had urls pointing to a porn website. it was all over the local news
(also the publisher tried to get the website blocked (which doesn’t make any sense)???)
PlantObserver@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2024 18:06
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I can vouch for airvpn if any of you poor saps need to get one. I’ve been through several and settled on airvpn in the end.
General rule if you see YouTube sponsor ads for a VPN steer the other way. (IE Nord, Surfshark, etc.)
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
on 14 Feb 2024 18:51
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I guarantee that’s not happening lol
They’ve been repeatedly bringing up laws like this, then they get scrapped because they’re utterly unenforceable. It’s been happening ever since Theresa May was still David Cameron’s cabinet Home Secretary.
Just headlines meant to appeal to old conservatives obsessed with everybody’s sex lives, with the bonus of the government paying millions to their mates’ “consultancy firms”.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
on 14 Feb 2024 22:48
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What’s the ACTUAL anti-porn motivation the right has? It’s not protecting children, the right HATE children. How does banning porn make old people richer? Somebody follow the money for me.
Strayce@lemmy.sdf.org
on 15 Feb 2024 00:25
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This is about control. If you’re forced to upload ID, the government instantly has a watch list of people and associated sites. Then there’s the flexibility of the definition of porn. Once the legislation is in, anything regarding sex, sexuality, or gender education gets quietly reclassified. Because you know, to these people being anything but straight is inherently pornographic. Then you have a watch list of potential LGBT+ people and allies to harass.
Laristal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Feb 2024 10:53
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Not only that but between the various web tracking technologies that advertisers use and people’s reuse of credentials for convenience you now have an easier way to associate a real identity with a specific person as they browse the internet. A boon to advertisers and other interested parties alike.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk
on 15 Feb 2024 11:52
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Normalising intensive tracking of internet activity seems exactly up the Conservative government’s alley. Oh well, we already do it for X, maybe now we should do it for Y… you know, for the safety of children of course. It just so happens that safety requires that there be no aspect of your life that goes unmonitored by GCHQ.
madcaesar@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2024 11:28
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British populace taking a shot at the Crown of dumbest populace in the world.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 15 Feb 2024 13:34
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Considering TERF island are all time champions it’s a given that as always they’ll go home with a gold medal in this one, however my sources predict a loss in the “have a sufficiently functional state apparatus to actually enforce such a law” competition.
merthyr1831@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2024 13:04
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We have no infrastructure to support this ban, just like when ISPs were ordered to block porn by default. Nothing ever happens.
Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world
on 15 Feb 2024 13:53
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Porn perusers will soon have to prove their age by uploading an identity document like a passport, registering a credit card, presenting their face to AI-powered scanning technology, or using a handful of other methods outlined in draft guidance from the regime’s regulator, Ofcom.
Although initially missing from the U.K.’s next attempt at internet regulation, pressure from children’s charities, age verification providers and vocal parliamentarians persuaded the government to revamp the defunct regime through the Online Safety Act.
Many videos depict graphic and degrading abuse of women, sickening acts of rape and incest, and many underage participants,” Tory MP Miriam Cates, a strong advocate for the legislation, told the House of Commons in September.
Research indicates younger kids who stumble across porn accidentally can find it shocking and disturbing — although the majority of young people surveyed in a 2020 British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) report said this didn’t impact them in the long term.
But the issue is complicated: the BBFC report found that older teens said they watched porn for educational purposes, due to a lack of information about sex in schools, or for gratification, while half of the LGBTQ+ respondents said it had helped them understand and explore their sexual identity.
“The squeamishness associated with pornography has made it nearly impossible to have a mature discussion about the technical feasibility, trade-offs, and effectiveness of age verification mandates,” says Matthew Lesh, director of public policy and communications at the free-market think tank.
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Get your VPN ready.
Lol, exactly. They cant stop it. If nothing else it will “What is i2p”
Would users really go to i2p instead of using a VPN?
Depends on how successful they are at banning the general VPN providers.
Nobody is visiting porn sites accidentally anymore. This ain’t the 90s. They don’t pop up in any mainstream search engines by default.
Unless this includes not only porn sites but any site that might potentially host porn (like Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, or really any site with user-uploaded content), this argument is invalid (as well as specious).
I imagine that the kids of today are spending more time on one platform like Reddit or tiktok, so it becomes more up to the platforms to keep sexual content separate. I know it used to be easy to go on r/all and accidentally see porn, not sure if that’s a thing anymore
reddit requires you to go out of your way to enable nsfw. tiktok is pretty heavy handed in moderation, but i still get some spam videos of nsfw content
Reddit exlcluded porn from showing up in all
Same thing happens here. I was scrolling c/All at the doctor’s office and there it is.
Kids are mostly on tiktok
Wow, what a boldly inaccurate take. How can you possibly believe this? Do you never interact with children? Just a few weeks ago a teacher gave out a URL that had a typo in it to my nephew’s middle school class and sure enough it was a porn site. In 2024 no less. IT didn’t even block the site. Porn is far too easy to find online inadvertently, case in point turn off safe search on any popular search engine. LOL “nobody is visiting porn sites inadvertently these days”, thanks- needed that today lol
Turning off safe search requires explicit action, so I wouldn’t consider that accidental.
Interesting point about typos though.
I typically have safesearch turned off and I recently had DuckDuckGo give me porn I wasn’t looking for for two image search queries (Google did not give me porn):
Of course, I’ve been on the internet for a while and was neither shocked nor offended.
I’m gonna call bullshit. I want to know the two urls. It was a few weeks ago so this should be easy information to get.
It’s plausible. Could have been a low-effort typosquatting site loaded with porn ads.
I’ll bet you a dollar it never happened though.
I’m not saying it never happens, but it’s not a super common occurrence.
And even if it is, locking down the entire internet and monitoring people in an Orwellian fashion isn’t the government’s job.
What happened back in the day when kids walked in on their parents doing the deed? What did the parents do when their child snuck a passage of Shakespeare and read all the filthy jokes he wrote?
Oh, they spoke to the kids and guided them through a normal part of life?
I have a son. I would like for him to not see graphic images on the Internet. But when he does, I will explain to him that human beings have sex (which is why he exists). I will tell him that sometimes people like to watch videos about it because it feels good to them. I will explain to him that it’s fake, just like the action movies and violence he sees on TV. I will tell him it’s nothing like that in reality and I will explain to him that he’s not ready to see that material yet.
Fascists always gain control by offering “safety.” Ironically, they’re more dangerous than the thing they claim to protect you from.
Yeah, making a government list of porn watchers with their watch history available is 100% going to be abused. It will not turn out well.
lol iirc there was a case where a domain name for some website expired, so hundreds of ukrainian language textbooks had urls pointing to a porn website. it was all over the local news
(also the publisher tried to get the website blocked (which doesn’t make any sense)???)
I can vouch for airvpn if any of you poor saps need to get one. I’ve been through several and settled on airvpn in the end.
General rule if you see YouTube sponsor ads for a VPN steer the other way. (IE Nord, Surfshark, etc.)
I guarantee that’s not happening lol
They’ve been repeatedly bringing up laws like this, then they get scrapped because they’re utterly unenforceable. It’s been happening ever since Theresa May was still David Cameron’s cabinet Home Secretary.
Just headlines meant to appeal to old conservatives obsessed with everybody’s sex lives, with the bonus of the government paying millions to their mates’ “consultancy firms”.
What’s the ACTUAL anti-porn motivation the right has? It’s not protecting children, the right HATE children. How does banning porn make old people richer? Somebody follow the money for me.
This is about control. If you’re forced to upload ID, the government instantly has a watch list of people and associated sites. Then there’s the flexibility of the definition of porn. Once the legislation is in, anything regarding sex, sexuality, or gender education gets quietly reclassified. Because you know, to these people being anything but straight is inherently pornographic. Then you have a watch list of potential LGBT+ people and allies to harass.
Not only that but between the various web tracking technologies that advertisers use and people’s reuse of credentials for convenience you now have an easier way to associate a real identity with a specific person as they browse the internet. A boon to advertisers and other interested parties alike.
Normalising intensive tracking of internet activity seems exactly up the Conservative government’s alley. Oh well, we already do it for X, maybe now we should do it for Y… you know, for the safety of children of course. It just so happens that safety requires that there be no aspect of your life that goes unmonitored by GCHQ.
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Or you know, VPN.
The other alternative is pushing it back underground. USBs and hard drives, who knows what you would end up with
An explosion of CP, probably.
As someone not living in Britain, this headline reads like an invitation.
Fuck that, I’m not flying to Britain to watch porn.
They misspelled VPN
Or tor but that can cause a load of horrible things when searching for this conent.
Only if you’re using onion sites for porn.
Don’t use onion sites for porn.
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British populace taking a shot at the Crown of dumbest populace in the world.
Considering TERF island are all time champions it’s a given that as always they’ll go home with a gold medal in this one, however my sources predict a loss in the “have a sufficiently functional state apparatus to actually enforce such a law” competition.
We have no infrastructure to support this ban, just like when ISPs were ordered to block porn by default. Nothing ever happens.
Passport is an interesting way to spell VPN.