Goodwill Isn’t a Platform (thoughts on the Digg beta)
from cosmOS@lemmy.zip to technology@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 22:34
https://lemmy.zip/post/49967303

The new Digg feels a lot like the same ole’ Reddit. The mobile app is basically a clone, even down to the pointless “Trending” bar at the top.

There’s no API support yet, no plan for federation, and no guardrails to stop the slow slide into bloat (notice the Digg Daily AI podcast?) and ads we’ve all seen before.

Right now the only thing holding it together is the community, and the goodwill of Kevin Rose and the team. I respect them, but goodwill isn’t a plan.

Leadership changes. Platforms change. When money starts talking, users always pay the price.

No federation? No thank you.

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wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 30 Sep 22:56 next collapse

I checked it out. It’s not a ghost town, but I feel like there is less activity than on federated platforms. It doesnt have the critical number of people talking about stuff to be interesting and actually result in dialog.

piskertariot@lemmy.world on 01 Oct 02:26 collapse

It actually is a ghost town. There’s so little engagement, and even the upvote-counts seemingly aren’t obfuscated, and are super low.

There’s also already a lot of conservative trolls who will flame for “MUH SPEECH” if you suggest that they’re an annoying conservative. “Hey man, I’m just asking the questions”. In a ghost town, they appear louder.

My theory is that people just don’t want to comment anymore. We all learned our lesson. If we comment, we just feed the AI beast. I’m not offering my insights and opinions so that you can scrape them.

JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz on 01 Oct 11:36 next collapse

Alternative platforms always start with the people that aren’t welcome in the old ones - Lemmy was literally originally made as a communist safespace:

Fuck the white supremacist Reddit admins, want me to set up a self hosted one for /r/communism?
Hey all, longtime Marxist-leninist, recorder of left audiobooks, and megathread shitposter here.
…
So I’ve spent the past few months working on a self hostable, federated, Reddit alternative called Lemmy, and it’s pretty much ready to go. Unlike here we’d have ultimate control over all content, and would never have to self censor.
…
Raddle isn’t an option obviously since it’s run by this arch anti tankie scum, ziq.

Vespair@lemmy.zip on 01 Oct 12:31 next collapse

Yes but all outcasts are not equal. I’m happy to share a meal with communists, but I’ve got no interest wasting my time with extreme right-wingers.

nieceandtows@programming.dev on 02 Oct 05:32 collapse

That’s very interesting. How do you think lemmy has evolved since that post?

wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Oct 11:54 collapse

Maybe they just don’t have AI commenting like reddit does?

mrdown@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 23:02 next collapse

Can i get an invite code?

logicbomb@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 23:46 next collapse

no plan for federation, and no guardrails to stop the slow slide into bloat

What would be an example of a guardrail to stop the slow slide into bloat?

I’m not asking for a detailed explanation, but I simply can’t understand what sort of feature you’re imagining.

I sort of get the idea that maybe you just mean that you’re already seeing the beginnings of bloat, but if there was something that could actually stop bloat, that sounds very interesting.

SouthFresh@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 23:57 next collapse

Decentralization’s a good start.

cosmOS@lemmy.zip on 01 Oct 00:22 collapse

I’m not an expert, but my understanding is that federation adds significant complexity to the system. Even simple features take careful planning, so there’s a natural friction that prevents new features from being added carelessly.

SouthFresh@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 23:56 next collapse

Why leave Lemmy for Lemmy-Junior?

criss_cross@lemmy.world on 30 Sep 23:59 next collapse

Haven’t been on new Reddit in a while (anytime I go I use ‘old.’).

Is the first 70% of the screen really an ad?

Blackfeathr@lemmy.world on 01 Oct 02:04 collapse

Yes, sometimes even more than that.

galaxy_nova@lemmy.world on 01 Oct 00:04 next collapse

AI bad me no likey

sundray@lemmus.org on 01 Oct 00:12 collapse

We should go on strikey

Triumph@fedia.io on 01 Oct 00:58 collapse

I'll get my pikey.

Blackfeathr@lemmy.world on 01 Oct 02:06 collapse

It’s really spiky!

interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml on 01 Oct 11:45 next collapse

Why would anyone give any air to the Digg people, they are sell out ?
They do not deserve a microsecond of attention and people who don’t know them should be saved from becoming their victims.
We all left Digg and empowered Reddit, and Reddit also ducked us.
How many times do you have to get burned on that hot stove to STOP DUCKING TOUCHING IT ??

DJDarren@sopuli.xyz on 01 Oct 15:38 next collapse

The mobile app is basically a clone

Amazing. Make loads of noise about snagging Christian from Apollo to be a part of the relaunch, then make an app that has nowhere near the charm of Apollo.

boonhet@sopuli.xyz on 01 Oct 16:50 collapse

Meanwhile someone made an open source version of Apollo for Lemmy and it’s great. Voyager is the name for anyone not aware yet (though I think most have heard)

DJDarren@sopuli.xyz on 01 Oct 17:48 next collapse

I posted my comment using that very client 😀

Rhapsodicjock_108@lemmy.world on 01 Oct 18:55 next collapse

Commenting from voyager app.

cosmOS@lemmy.zip on 01 Oct 18:57 next collapse

Posted from voyager app!

PerfectDark@lemmy.world on 02 Oct 02:21 collapse

Voyager makes moderating a breeze, too!

Crozekiel@lemmy.zip on 01 Oct 18:11 next collapse

Is it bad that I automatically don’t take them seriously just based on their links to socials? Didn’t even go for a Bluesky (let alone anything federated) and going for twitter and instagram like it’s still 2019.

favoredponcho@lemmy.zip on 02 Oct 02:54 next collapse

Checked it out. I don’t think they will ever provide API support given how much they want to tie AI into things. The app feels clunky to me and the user base is high on Kevin Rose and Digg nostalgia. Also, they keep very tight controls on which communities can be created, so that limits the degree to which it can be community-driven.

altphoto@lemmy.today on 02 Oct 04:58 next collapse

Fuck reddit and digg. Worthless. Lemmy is way better in every respect.

Wispy2891@lemmy.world on 02 Oct 05:03 collapse

I’ll comment on that story on the screenshot

Printer with DRM-free ink

Uses HP cartridges

Those two sentences are mutually exclusive