Oh shit… I wonder if they see me doing it now? This subway car seems pretty full, but no one’s making eye contact… so I should be cool.

Actually, this makes me wonder if the Vision Pro would register your strokes as inputs while you were trying to do the deed?

Nono you can send out a signal to everyone else’s Vision Pro to hide what you’re doing with your hands. You’ll be totally in private!

Public? No officer, i was masturbating on the moon!

Where there’s a will, there’s porn. You can watch porn on any Apple device now. The issue I believe they’re calling out is a formatting issue with some video formats that porn uses, but that can be fixed with some conversions and probably more depends on 3rd party apps, which will likely show up at some point if they’re not already there.

The porn thing is overblown - it’s only about VR porn. You can watch all the porn you want in a video player or web browser. However people who don’t like Apple eagerly ate up this news, as if Apple banned porn on the device somehow.

NY post is awful. Deliberately misconstrued this Reddit thread for clickbait.

Web based vr pron works.

reddit.com/…/anyone_figured_out_porn_on_the_visio…

Sideloading apps is also easy.

Two dingi don’t make a right. Or something.

Then if you wear it you’ll be an even bigger dingus and make other dinguses look less dingusy. It would kinda be a public service of sorts I guess.

I thought they looked like uncooked long macaroni.

People on here are wired.

Air pods just look like regular apple headphones just without wires.

They sure as shit look less goofy than my huge pixel buds that stuck an inch out of my ear.

They look like puss leaking out of the ear to me.

I’m kind of surprised people felt that way about AirPods. I don’t remember that at the time. They seem quite mild to me at this point - people didn’t mind wearing regular earbuds around, why worry if there’s a cord or not?

So I asked, and you can't do captures to use for the backgrounds with the headset (I'm guessing they use better equipment and maybe some processing), but it does do "spatial photos and video". That was part of the demo in the store and they're really impressive. The 15 pro can also capture a 3D video that still looks cool, but has noticeably less depth than the captures with the headset.

I'm not sure the exact technical details, but there are a whole bunch of cameras and other sensors. I'm assuming it uses all of them combined to capture the 3D photos. But there was a lot of depth in the version I saw in the demo.

Oh, yeah. More power to him. A later post by him said that the app he’s developing for it has already paid for the cost of the headset. I fully believe he’s just out there working.

I’m hoping in a few generations, when they’ve got the form factor worked out, and the price under control, that it’ll be more to my liking.
I don’t think I would ever want to interact with someone while wearing it, but it could be great for all the things VR is great for, but without the creepy Facebook privacy invasion. (I know - Apple is slipping down that slope, too. They’re just not as far down it yet.)

Well it’s an AR headset. They have different design goals.

It’s why I ended up selling mine

Made a pretty penny on it due to when I sold it

I ended up selling it for $750 with the deluxe audio strap right around the time Halflife Alex came out

Reading it gave me a headache.

I gave my Index to my son who has the time and physicality to use it. I’m just too old for action gaming now.

I would have loved it if I was 30 years younger. I can do more from a chair with my desktop PC than an Apple Vision Pro can. It’s just another Apple Con.

Let’s be honest the min you see a picture of a half eaten apple on a thing just add a 0 to the price tag

I just want smart glasses like a smart watch. Show me notifications, let me decline calls, etc. I don’t want all the VR crap, just like 4 lines of text.

I think they meant in the future when the form factor is the same as wearing glasses.

My glasses are on my face every minute of every day, except when showering and sleeping. I’m uncomfortable when they’re not there - and not just because I can’t see, but because I’m so used to it.

That’s probably the future - people being uncomfortable if a screen isn’t in their vision every waking moment, because it’s as physically comfortable and as “normal” as wearing glasses, and more comfortable than looking down at a phone.

It’d be an amazing feat for technology, but similarly as dystopian as having a social media-feeding PC in your pocket, or just any PC if you’re another generation older. Future people will eat it up though, just like we eat up the phones.

Now I’m imagining marketing where the old millennials are staring at their phones, and the young people are complaining about how grandpa never engages with other human beings or makes eye contact - but they’re still scrolling TikTok while talking to him.

It would be ar glasses I’d think, not a headset with a strap. At least that would be my guess as to the end state.

Those are fake, the apple vision pro bugs ten fuck out when it’s I a moving car, so they couldn’t have been using it. Its all for clout.

I’m sorry, but do you just talk to strangers on the subway?

We already have smartphones that everyone is looking at anyway.

Before that we had newspapers.

You are making up an imaginary dystopia to peddle fear for no reason.

Post it on Lemmy when you get something running, very interested!

I thought Google Glass was a really cool idea. I actually liked Google back then.

I’m not sure whether it would work better today.

What seems odd about the glasses is that they’re essentially bodycams, but just unobtrusive enough not to be identified as such from a distance.

Someone walking around with an AR headset makes it very clear they’re wearing a tech device, someone holding up a phone in front of them signals “I might be filming”, but someone wearing slightly unusual glasses won’t catch any attention. And that seems very weird to a lot of people.

God, I still dream of a device that works like we saw in the OG Glass concept video as opposed to the glorified Google Plus browser we got

To be fair, that product was crazy expensive. It was basically exclusively for wealthy people. If it was cheaper, and easy to develop for, it would have been a huge success.

Look at what Apple has done here by comparison… This bullshit is even more expensive.

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I believe AR overlays information about the real world where as mixed reality just shows you the real world with a few apps floating about

That’s because it’s just marketing bullshit.

The worst person you’ve ever met came up with it in a very upscale cube farm over a chai latte, don’t think too hard about it.

They are the same thing. I think that they’re confusing it with the difference between “passthrough” AR (you watch an opaque display showing video of the outside world) and “see through” AR (which uses a transparent display that you look through to see the outside world).

We don’t have mixed reality yet. The difference is that AR adds a data overlay on the physical world while MR is more like a hologram that you can interface with and everyone can see the same thing without needing additional goggles or display over the eyes.

We don’t have true MR yet. Apple is marketing the vision pro as spatial computing and it’s a mix between VR and AR.

I didn’t see anyone mention this, but while this headset depicts the outside world when you are wearing it, you are viewing a camera feed of that world. True AR would be like google glass where it is a piece of glass with data projected onto it. Apples thing recreates the world around you and then adds in the applications, you are viewing the world through a filter.

It could also just be marketing too because it seems like they are trying really hard to not make this look like some nerd shit.

Eh. It’s a bit more handwavey than that. It’s whatever you want it to be.

Virtual reality was supposed to be simulated, but “actual still science fiction” levels of simulated. seamless 3d environment, intercepting nerve signals to look and intuitively control an avatar or ready player one had a haptic suit.

AR stems from that and was supposed to be “the real world, but cyber”. Or “VR, but with real world elements”. In the novel “virtual light”, it’s supposed to overlay that “datasturce of cyberspace” on the real world. Even then it was never really clear what purpose cyberspace as a 3d world would have, what data looks like or should look like, and what the advantage of that visualization would be. Or why would rather see that than what the world looks like.

Mixed reality is also that. Imo. It sounds the same to me too.

The whole thing is like hand gesture control. It looked great in minority report, but we had it since one of the 2010s xboxs and it went absolutely nowhere.

Virtual reality: everything you see is virtual.

Augmented reality: adds a HUD on top of what you see in reality.

Mixed reality: has virtual objects behind real objects, mixing both real and virtual

I really don’t see touchscreens on laptops to be something to judge a company’s innovation on. I work in communications and I can really only think of two coworkers that personally own touchscreen laptops.

I have zero interest in touch screen on my laptop. It is not standard on Windows and has yet to show any really benefits.

Wait what? Xray specs?

The technology wasn’t really there yet. The AR view was too small and the headset too big.

It was also just marketed to business, so other than it being the new fad it didn’t really take off.

Same thing that will happen to the Vision Pro. They stalled but eventually made a second version and had horrible production issues. After the second version was out a couple years they quit, laying off the whole team.

I was so excited when they announced that and showed Minecraft just hanging out in the living room.

I wouldn’t have used it long.

It doesn’t have a poor battery life it has a poor battery design. If they put a decent battery on the damn thing it would be okay, it’s not particularly power hungry but apple just give it a gnat’s testicle of a battery.

Can confirm, I had an Apple Newton. Hardware with no purpose is just hardware. So far, this seems like it’s going where every VR headset goes. It’s a solution looking for a problem.

Yeah the iPhone was successful at launch because it was a sleek blackberry and had iPod like capabilities. But it didn’t blow up until the App Store came out. I expect this product to do the same, and in the same way, companies to release competitive products with similar capabilities in a feature war until the newest releases are mostly talking about resolution and processor speed instead of new features

I think Apple’s reasoning here is to provide the hardware and see what people do with it.

for sure, and in the rest of the tech world, we call these devkits, not finished products. Apple is trying to convince rando non-dev apple fanboys to pay $3500 for the privilege of playing with devkits. And in many ways, it’s a dead end, especially on input. what a shit show.

When Apple released the first iPhone no one had an app store, originally Apple wasn’t even going to have an app store it was all going to be web apps and then they realized that they could make more money with an app store. It wasn’t a feature people expected, but people do expect apps now and they’re not present.

I mean, as I pointed out, before an App Store, not much. After an App Store and some competition there are crazy cool applications. Cooking? The device can show you how much of your food to chop, where to put it, visually measure a teaspoon or tablespoon or whatever for you, automatically start a timer when you get the chicken in the pan or whatever. Look up at the stars and see constellations, flights, weather, etc overlaid by your view. On-road gps directions where there is an arrow video game style showing you where to go. Apps that could assist in things like building legos by showing you which pieces to grab and where they go. Looking down over the earth while on a flight to see exactly what landmark/town/area/state you are looking at. There are awesome applications to the tech. Whether we will see them or not is a matter of speculation. Apple is advertising a 3500 dollar headset with cool hardware and boring ass software right now

What people seem to be doing with it is driving around in Tesla’s with it and looking like even larger burks than they usually do.

I always thought Google Glass looked pretty sleek. Much better than having a full VR set on your face. You had a full field of vision, just a small HUD.

Or just which messages are SMS and which are an encrypted protocol. It was the users that turned that into a measure of status.

Like big assholes? “With our products you feel like you are a better than others”? Yeah they started that shitty trend.

I’m sure that the iBox would turn out a fair profit.

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Apple does have really nice boxes

They kinda do already; Apple sells a twisted piece of metal for $1k, and people buy it from them.

I was not aware that existed. Why are they driving backwards? I’m more impressed by the skill of the truckers than that split.

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And here I am without even a private Cessna

The problem is that demand will have to be generated first – something HTC, Google, Microsoft, and Meta have failed at so far.

So far it seems that VR/AR is behaving somewhat similarly to 3DTV: Some enthusiasts are really into it and a market exists but most people aren’t excited enough to spend any extra money on it. They’ll have to find a way around that if they really want mass-market adoption.

I dunno. People said the same about 3DTV and that never took off even when more affordable models became available.

I don’t think VR/AR has a killer app so far. There are some neat things it can do but nothing that makes people chomp at the bit to get their hands hands on it.

VR gaming is nice but most gamers don’t consider it sufficiently better to a regular monitor to buy a VR rig. For screen replacement it gets worse because the constraints are even harder - smaller budgets, weaker host hardware, lower expectations that are already exceeded by traditional screens.

Apple might pull it off but they have one hell of a battle ahead of them.

They can buy whatever they want haha I didn’t say I care, I was just saying the article title could be accurate, people spend money without knowing much about the purchase all the time.