Exclusive: Google-backed software developer GitLab explores sale, sources say | Reuters (www.reuters.com)
from fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 13 Aug 2024 06:31
https://lemmy.world/post/18588945

Expect more enshittification coming your way.

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admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 13 Aug 2024 06:37 next collapse

Typical that the title does mention Google (who currently has a minority stake) but not Datadog, who would become the new owner.

But yeah, I don’t foresee a new owner making things better for gitlab.

jonne@infosec.pub on 13 Aug 2024 07:45 next collapse

I don’t know, seems like being owned by Google would be worse. They kill stuff left and right.

admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 13 Aug 2024 10:49 collapse

But they have been partially owned by Google for the past time, and the product has been great.

Google’s involvement is only going to lessen, so the only reason to put so much emphasis on that in the headline would be to get those rage clicks.

TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee on 14 Aug 2024 04:01 collapse

Partially owned gives room for the product to stay alive. It being fully owned by Google makes it subject to being killed.

admin@lemmy.my-box.dev on 14 Aug 2024 05:08 collapse

I guess responses like yours is the reason the headline didn’t mention the actual party gitlab is in talks with. People just love to have their villain.

Ignore the headline. Read the article. Gitlab is not about to sell to Google. They are about to sell to Datadog.

TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee on 14 Aug 2024 14:27 collapse

Selling to Datadog isn’t a guarantee. The most important detail is that they’re exploring a sale, and other companies are probably going to be interested.

barsquid@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 2024 01:44 collapse

Oh, neat, DataDog. So if you add a new label to a repo your monthly bill would rocket to the moon.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 2024 04:17 collapse

I feel this so much. We evaluated them at work, and while they did pretty much exactly what we wanted, we weren’t willing to pay their fees.

jherazob@fedia.io on 13 Aug 2024 09:28 next collapse

This worries me, i can see the new owners killing the Community edition and/or enshittifying the software to uselessness. Do we have a FOSS alternative that does the whole CI/CD pipeline too?

souperk@reddthat.com on 13 Aug 2024 10:43 next collapse

Gitea and forejo are doing some amazing work

drspod@lemmy.ml on 13 Aug 2024 12:57 collapse
JackbyDev@programming.dev on 13 Aug 2024 14:33 next collapse

Codeberg, but you have to manually apply for the CI/CD part. Also, Codeberg only allows you to host FOSS projects.

mox@lemmy.sdf.org on 13 Aug 2024 19:47 next collapse
mhm@programming.dev on 14 Aug 2024 05:02 next collapse

SourceHut is worth checking out. It leans towards minimal aesthetics, but is actually very functional. Granted, the workflow is quite different than other VCS providers, but you may grow into it, like I have :)

mox@lemmy.sdf.org on 14 Aug 2024 21:56 collapse

SourceHut burns my eyes. Has Drew (or someone to whom he has delegated such things) announced a dark mode yet?

communism@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 2024 23:55 next collapse

Dark Reader browser extension or just a userstyle. For me, Dark Reader works very well for sourcehut.

mox@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Aug 2024 00:08 collapse

Thanks, but I know browser extensions exist. I was just curious whether it’s going to be supported natively.

mhm@programming.dev on 15 Aug 2024 01:27 next collapse

No. But, FWIW, Dark Reader, and similar extensions work very well on the site.

mhm@programming.dev on 29 Aug 2024 12:08 collapse

BTW, SourceHut now automatically switches to light/dark mode based on your OS settings.

Unless I made a mistake checking it the last time, it’s like Drew saw your comment and took it personally xD

mox@lemmy.sdf.org on 29 Aug 2024 17:25 collapse

Haha… Maybe he keeps tabs on the fediverse?

It doesn’t work with Resist Fingerprinting mode (which hides OS settings), and doesn’t have a manual toggle that I can see, but does now have a @media(prefers-color-scheme:dark) clause in its CSS. That’s a step in the right direction. :)

Thanks for the tip!

jbk@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Aug 2024 08:45 collapse

Why not fork the latest CE?

frog_brawler@lemmy.world on 13 Aug 2024 12:22 next collapse

Fuck

JackbyDev@programming.dev on 13 Aug 2024 14:32 next collapse

What if source forge bought it lmao

sleepmode@lemmy.world on 13 Aug 2024 14:57 next collapse

This would explain why some people I know that work there are panicking.

MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip on 13 Aug 2024 15:29 next collapse

Let’s explore the scenarios

Scenario 1: GitLab is acquired by Google

Scenario 2: GitLab is acquired by Apple

Scenario 3: GitLab is acquired by a State government

Scenario 4: Gitlab is acquired by Amazon

Scenario 5: Gitlab is acquired by the Linux Foundation

Scenario 6: Gitlab is acquired by the Federal Government

Scenario 7: Gitlab is acquired by IBM

TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee on 14 Aug 2024 02:52 next collapse

What if JetBrains bought it though

merc@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 2024 03:43 next collapse

Scenario 8: Gitlab is acquired by Wal*Mart

dyc3@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 2024 01:45 collapse

Let’s be real, 3 and 6 are not possible

merc@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 2024 03:51 next collapse

I don’t think tech people understand how bad it is that Microsoft owns GitHub.

GitLab is one of the few places people could go if GitHub enshittifies too much. Google’s stake in it (or full ownership of it) would probably be a good thing, because it would be seen as an important strategic hedge against Microsoft. If it’s bought by a smaller player, I can see GitHub squeezing it into irrelevance.

odelik@lemmy.today on 14 Aug 2024 04:30 next collapse

I just wish GitHub wasn’t part of MS anymore.

I also don’t want Gitlab owned by another megacorp.

Something funded by the government but ran by a public org would be ideal.

merc@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 2024 07:42 next collapse

I just wish GitHub wasn’t part of MS anymore.

Too bad. Microsoft is using it as part of their extremely long term plan to control the software that developers use to do their jobs. VSCode is another front in that battle. Things are going slowly, but they’re winning.

boonhet@lemm.ee on 14 Aug 2024 09:38 collapse

VSCode is another front in that battle. Things are going slowly, but they’re winning.

They replaced Atom with VSCode, but some of the Atom devs are now working on Zed, which finally has Linux support. Or for a paid alternative, we have the Jetbrains suite, which can be excellent if that’s your thing.

For Github, we still have Gitlab as an alternative, but once that goes, we have Gitea or Forgejo to move to.

The thing is that many developers are a vengeful bunch who hate big corps with their enshittification fetishes and love open source solutions. Microsoft has to tread really carefully here.

merc@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 2024 19:13 collapse

but some of the Atom devs are now working on Zed

Ok… but just because someone’s working on an alternative doesn’t mean that alternative will be able to unseat VSCode. Microsoft is spending tens of millions per year to gently lock people into VSCode.

The thing is that many developers are a vengeful bunch who hate big corps with their enshittification fetishes and love open source solutions. Microsoft has to tread really carefully here.

And they have been treading carefully for decades, and it’s working. The people who supposedly hate big corps mostly use GitHub and VSCode. They’re heating the water very, very slowly, and the frogs are staying in the pot.

communism@lemmy.ml on 14 Aug 2024 23:53 next collapse

Something funded by the government but ran by a public org would be ideal.

“the government” which government?

I don’t want software beholden to any state interests. I see donationware as the way to go; or if donations can’t sustain server costs, donations for sustaining development, and then a public flagship instance which people can pay to use, or self-host for their own server costs.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 2024 04:16 collapse

Why the government? There are plenty of free git hosting services out there, take your pick. If gitlab goes away, move to gitea, forgejo, gitosis, etc.

AlexanderESmith@social.alexanderesmith.com on 14 Aug 2024 07:04 next collapse

I've been using raw Git for a while now. Glad I switched from GitHub for personal projects.

Can't share worth a shit that way, but 90% of my code is highly specific, personal scripts that I just want to maintain history and notes for. And a book I'm writing.

merc@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 2024 07:20 collapse

Yeah, I use personal git repos for most things. But, it’s not as convenient if you want to collaborate on something, or if you want to access features like building docker images and having them put into a repo. There’s definitely a need for a place for open-source and free software projects to live. And, I personally don’t want them on a platform owned by Microsoft.

asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world on 14 Aug 2024 10:34 next collapse

I view Gitea as the real alternative to GitHub. I was very big on GitLab for a long time, and think any competition is good, but I’d really like it if more people could seriously invest in Gitea.

They’re also working on ActivityPub support: github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/18240

merc@sh.itjust.works on 14 Aug 2024 19:10 next collapse

It’s ironic that your alternative for GitHub is hosted on GitHub. That doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence.

Eezyville@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 2024 00:17 collapse

They host on Github for more visibility.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 2024 04:14 collapse

Yeah, I don’t see how that’s an issue at all. If Github kicks them, they’ll just push to their own instance. They’d lose a few days to reconfigure the CI/CD or whatever, but that’s about it.

fernlike3923@sh.itjust.works on 15 Aug 2024 08:16 collapse

Forgejo?

barsquid@lemmy.world on 15 Aug 2024 01:42 collapse

GitLab is a parade of avoidable CVEs. There are better alternatives to worry for.

SuperiorOne@lemmy.ml on 15 Aug 2024 00:25 collapse

If that happens, I’ll create a preemptive PR on KilledByGoogle.