X adds video calling — and lets strangers ring you: Turned on by default, tool lets anyone you follow potentially call you up (www.independent.co.uk)
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X adds video calling — and lets strangers ring you: Turned on by default, tool lets anyone you follow potentially call you up::Turned on by default, tool lets anyone you follow potentially call you up

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autotldr@lemmings.world on 28 Oct 2023 02:00 next collapse

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Twitter has added video calling – and left it turned on by default.

The feature is now being officially rolled out, Elon Musk confirmed.

Video calls are part of Elon Musk’s plans to make Twitter, which he has renamed X, into the “everything app”, offering a wide array of different functionality.

For now, video calls are limited to the iOS app, and appear to be rolling out slowly.

From the direct message settings, users can either disable it entirely or change it so that they can receive calls from people in your address book, from people you follow, or from all “verified” users.

If the feature is enabled, then a phone icon should show within the direct message conversation, and tapping audio or video will start the relevant kind of call.


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fubo@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 02:02 next collapse

I can already make video calls from Signal, which isn’t run by neofarcists.

(That was a typo, but it’s fitting.)

hogunner@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 02:29 next collapse

I’m going to go ahead and assume the one person on X that you can’t call is old Muck himself. Wonder why?

Then again, X is such a shit show and Elon is so incapable of thinking two steps ahead of his feet that maybe you can call him lol

xkforce@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 03:06 next collapse

Only one way to find out

Telodzrum@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 03:09 next collapse

He might not consider it a necessary feature. I mean, not even his own kids want to talk to him.

meco03211@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 03:42 next collapse

My bet is he’d be too fucking arrogant and think people would genuinely call him out of admiration and he could create some viral moment showcasing how awesome he is.

LillyPip@lemmy.ca on 28 Oct 2023 20:33 collapse

My bet is this isn’t really about people calling each other, but more about exTwitter having access to users’ microphones and cameras and is turned on by default.

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 03:56 next collapse

The system means that all accounts are liable to receive calls from accounts you follow, or those run by people whose number you have in your address book. To be able to call someone, they must have sent at least one direct message to your account.

He’s probably left it on.

Bogasse@lemmy.ml on 28 Oct 2023 09:37 next collapse

To be fair anyone can already call me with my phone number. Although it’s pretty anoying too.

pete_the_cat@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 11:45 next collapse

I remember years ago a high school friend of mine freaked out because her phone number and current address showed up in one of those free people search sites. I asked her “Are you listed in the phone book?” and she said “oh… yeah… I am”.

GoodEye8@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 18:54 collapse

This is a bit different. This is the equivalent of letting me call you right now because I know your username. I literally don’t need to know anything else about you, except for your activity on the site. That said I’m somewhat impressed. Impressed by how anyone would come up with something this stupid.

jaybone@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 15:53 collapse

Why would anyone want this functionality?

I’m guessing this is so if Elon gets a negative reply to one of his tweets he can call that person up and threaten them or something?

BluesF@feddit.uk on 28 Oct 2023 19:32 collapse

Omg this might actually be a good reason to get back on twitter

gregorum@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 02:33 next collapse

With, like, 20 employees, how can they support this?

db2@sopuli.xyz on 28 Oct 2023 02:41 next collapse

Bold of you to assume there’s any support.

xkforce@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 03:08 next collapse

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bluemellophone@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 03:33 next collapse

I mean, Jeff said he got it covered… yeah, Jeff’s got this one.

OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 28 Oct 2023 08:40 collapse

Probably built it off Jitsi

bogdugg@sh.itjust.works on 28 Oct 2023 03:13 next collapse

An “Everything App” is just an operating system.

0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Oct 2023 03:56 next collapse

You nailed it, he wants to create OS X.

Patch@feddit.uk on 28 Oct 2023 06:38 next collapse

Sold on his very own special X boxes.

DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz on 28 Oct 2023 14:39 collapse

OS X already exists…it’s just renamed to macOS these days

Fisch@lemmy.ml on 28 Oct 2023 16:52 collapse

I’m pretty sure that was the joke

DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz on 28 Oct 2023 17:17 collapse

Well it’s hard to tell sarcasm online, especially when no steps to convey tone or articulation have been added to the text formatting.

0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Oct 2023 17:59 collapse

I apologize, in the future I will demarcate all jokes with XML joke tags.

DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz on 28 Oct 2023 18:24 collapse

Or, you know, instead of pulling a straw man simply italicize part of the comment to emphasize sarcasm…

0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 28 Oct 2023 20:12 collapse

I get that you have a hard time recognizing jokes and non-literal language, and I really do sympathize, but it’s unreasonable to expect everyone to change the way they write. Realistically, it’s just not going to happen. Your options are to accept that you will frequently misunderstand people or try to level up your reading comprehension.

OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 06:07 next collapse

An explanation I’ve heard for why we don’t have “everything apps” in the US is because we all have an app store on our phones and that’s the niche the everything apps were really solving for.

cyd@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 11:15 next collapse

Also, everyone is locked into using credit cards.

akilou@sh.itjust.works on 28 Oct 2023 11:49 next collapse

How do you get the everything app in the first place if you don’t have an app store?

OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 12:09 collapse

Comes pre-installed on the phone. I think it was possible to download apps from websites too, it was just not as convenient.

jaybone@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 15:50 collapse

So is there like a single app on their Home Screen?

They tap it and it opens an app with a bunch of other apps in it? Or a bunch of tabs, or other widgets you have to scroll around to find the functionality you want?

I get why China would want this, for content control. But I don’t see why india or anywhere else would want this.

OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 17:35 collapse

There are still like calculator apps and web browsers and such, “everything” is more like instead of Paypal/Venmo, you use WeChat. Instead of ApplePay, WeChat. Instead of Facebook, WeChat. Instead of Uber, WeChat. It’s just all that functionality smashed into one app.

I don’t think it’s designed by the state to be centralized, it’s just how things happened in a lot of Asia.

golli@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 14:32 collapse

That and i think we also adopted technology differently. Places like China or india in a way skipped most of the PC/Laptop phase and went straight to smartphones as their main device to access everything. On a PC/Laptop you’ll access most things through a browser, so many services already existed this way and also remain accessible through that.

And even to this day many will prefer to do some things on a larger screen rather than a smartphone, even if by now it is the primary device.

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 28 Oct 2023 20:01 collapse

The idea of an everything app (AKA Superapp) is that all of it’s features are interoperable. The OS doesn’t do anything except provide an environment for apps to run.

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 03:55 next collapse

The system means that all accounts are liable to receive calls from accounts you follow, or those run by people whose number you have in your address book. To be able to call someone, they must have sent at least one direct message to your account.

You’re not going to get phone calls from just any rando.

captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org on 28 Oct 2023 06:46 collapse

You’re right. Cause I deleted that app months ago.

“They must have sent one DM” - so any rando that has sent an unwelcome DM can follow it with a call?

malijaffri@feddit.ch on 28 Oct 2023 07:09 collapse

To be able to call someone, they must have sent at least one direct message to your account.

Emphasis mine.

To me, it seems like it means that for me to be able to call you, you need to send me at least one DM AND be following me. So, in essence, any rando that you folllow and have previously sent a DM to can call you.

Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee on 28 Oct 2023 07:22 next collapse

That’s my interpretation. If you follow someone, and have sent them a message previously, it’s a reasonable assumption you want to talk to them.

jaybone@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 16:01 collapse

It’s an or not an and. So both conditions don’t have to be true.

Gazumi@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 06:10 next collapse

Stragglers of a dying platform get new bait and switch service. Expect fees once enought people use it.

qarbone@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 14:56 collapse

It already requires the monthly subscription to use.

VinnieFarsheds@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 09:29 next collapse

This would be a good reason to delete my X account

BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 12:13 next collapse

Do it!

KidsTryThisAtHome@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 14:14 collapse

This would be like the 18th good reason.

hangryshark@lemmy.world on 28 Oct 2023 11:11 next collapse

BRB, double-checking that shitty app is not on my phone…

helenslunch@feddit.nl on 28 Oct 2023 19:56 next collapse

My guy, Facebook has had this feature for 10 years.

JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee on 29 Oct 2023 01:56 next collapse

People still using it?

RedditWanderer@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 02:49 next collapse

Anyone still on twitter who is actually affected by this deserves every bit of it. What else did they think Musky was going to do.

yoz@aussie.zone on 29 Oct 2023 03:07 next collapse

He is really after making it an “everything app” which nobody uses. Anyone here really has twitter or Facebook installed on their phone ?

marx2k@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 03:19 next collapse

I have Twitter installed on my phone

fat_stig@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 04:08 next collapse

Deleted the app from my phone the day Elmo took control. Still use it via Firefox with Tampermonkey and Control Panel for Twitter, I only see stuff from those I follow, and anyone with a paid subscription is blocked. Tolerable like this.

worsedoughnut@lemdro.id on 29 Oct 2023 04:11 collapse

The PWA is decently tolerable, but at least on Android 14 the Firefox one has some annoying visual issues pretty frequently. That said, anything is better than installing the actual app and giving that POS even the smallest amount of access to my phone’s info.

bamboo@lemm.ee on 29 Oct 2023 04:15 collapse

The average lemmy user maybe not, but year hundreds of millions of people still use twitter, and billions use Facebook.

spiderman@ani.social on 29 Oct 2023 04:55 collapse

Started using mastodon recently, but I still surf twitter to see what my friends are tweeting about.

jacktherippah@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 03:57 next collapse

Join Mastodon y’all!

serial_crusher@lemmy.basedcount.com on 29 Oct 2023 04:27 next collapse

Headline: “let’s anyone you follow potentially call you up”

Article: “To be able to call someone, they must have sent at least one direct message to your account.”

This makes total sense. Your DM conversation has too much back and forth so you say “let’s take it to an audio or video call”, and then hash it out in person.

There’s a reason Slack has this exact same feature…

jcg@halubilo.social on 29 Oct 2023 04:40 collapse

I think the problem here is there’s no prior consent. If you’ve DM’d someone in the past, they can now call you. Twitter never had video call before, and the people who use it never expected to be giving consent for a video call maybe even several years later.

crashoverride@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 09:20 collapse

Why did we go from the more descriptive "private message (PM) to direct (DM)like why replace it? Anyone know?

MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works on 29 Oct 2023 09:42 collapse

Because of the implication it’s not actually private, since admins can see it and/or it’s used for analytics.

crashoverride@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 12:08 collapse

It’s still private for the purposes that other users can’t see it.

Zoot@reddthat.com on 29 Oct 2023 12:12 next collapse

Yeah, however the term is disingenuous.

RazorsLedge@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 12:41 collapse

But still not actually private

VantaBrandon@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 05:12 next collapse

I’m sure no predators will be calling people fully nude, no way thats going to happen

rish@lemmy.ml on 29 Oct 2023 06:46 next collapse

Everyone’s their best on the Internet.

boatsnhos931@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 15:19 collapse

If they follow predators maybe they want a lil peek

sanqueue@lemmy.world on 29 Oct 2023 09:47 next collapse

Why do people still use X these days? Stop using and EM will eventually be forced to close the company down

[deleted] on 31 Oct 2023 16:08 collapse

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