China bans exports to US of gallium, germanium, antimony in response to chip sanctions (apnews.com)
from UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 13:57
https://lemmy.world/post/22722087

China has near global monopolies on these exports, accounting for 98% of global gallium production, 93% of germanium production, and 49% of antimony production.

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apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 14:04 next collapse

Oh the ensuing coups and proxy wars for these resources are sure to be horrifying for the world.

Kaboom@reddthat.com on 03 Dec 14:14 next collapse

It’s about to be 1945 again! Can’t wait to raze Berlin again!

random_character_a@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 14:34 collapse

I think the facist roles are reversed.

masterofn001@lemmy.ca on 03 Dec 14:41 collapse

Does that mean Canada gets to burn down the white house again?

someguy3@lemmy.ca on 03 Dec 14:52 next collapse

Musical number on it youtu.be/o7jlFZhprU4

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 03 Dec 16:21 next collapse

No we get to become the 51st state.

pimento64@sopuli.xyz on 03 Dec 17:12 collapse

Britain did that, British North America was sitting quietly in the back seat playing Pokemon by that point.

horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 14:27 next collapse

Are they going to ban these exports to Taiwan and the EU as well? If not this will have zero affect for the state actors and the US will just buy through a trading proxy at a higher cost.

Idiotic policy on both sides. The global trade genie is out of the bottle, only end users will pay the price for these policies.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 14:50 next collapse

If not this will have zero affect for the state actors and the US will just buy through a trading proxy at a higher cost.

I’d define that as an effect, particularly given how the US has been scrambling to insource its tech industry over the last four years. TMSC just ramped up a competitive chip fab in Arizona, for instance.

Idiotic policy on both sides.

The argument boils down to each country claiming they need additional security measures aimed at a geopolitical rival. The ramp up to war never looks smart until one side wins.

Badeendje@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 00:52 collapse

The Arizona fab is for relatively standard chips, not the high end ones.

And this is also a step to prepare for an incoming president that has already kicked off a trade war before he even got there.

RobotToaster@mander.xyz on 03 Dec 14:54 next collapse

the US will just buy through a trading proxy at a higher cost.

That’s basically how the ban on imports of Russian oil is working…

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca on 03 Dec 16:19 collapse

There are differences between oil trade and less ubiquitous materials.

arin@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 22:56 collapse

Less glpbal trade, less pollution

dance_ninja@lemmy.world on 03 Dec 14:40 next collapse

Oh, GaN tech items are gonna get pricey aren’t they?

bamboo@lemm.ee on 03 Dec 21:43 next collapse

Time to go stock up on chargers

Badeendje@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 00:53 collapse

Only for Americans that need to pay for the tariffs. The devices are made in china.

SoupBrick@yiffit.net on 03 Dec 14:52 next collapse

Thank goodness they didn’t ban Donghua Jinlong’s food grade glycine!

Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de on 03 Dec 15:34 collapse

I wouldn’t know how to live without it! It’s simply of the highest quality!

sunzu2@thebrainbin.org on 03 Dec 15:07 next collapse

Hmmm... Good thing our mega corpos got all that profit that we benefit from to this day.

The quality of life is so much better for wage pedon 🤡

Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 03:58 next collapse

Germanium and gallium are not that rare. They’re produced as a byproduct of other types of mining (zinc, aluminum, coal, etc). China has a monopoly on them not because of any kind of special geology, but because they were willing to sell them below cost for decades.

It won’t take long for alternative sources to spin up and become available, especially because China has been threatening to do this for over a year.

sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works on 04 Dec 05:02 next collapse

We mine a fair amount here in the US, and I’ve heard a lot of talk about expanding mining operations. I’m guessing it’s one of those cases where it’s just not economical given China’s pricing to extract those metals, and we could probably change that if we needed to.

So yeah, I’m not too worried about it. Once costs go up, mining companies will get interested and provide supply.

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world on 04 Dec 14:48 collapse

they were willing to sell them below cost

That’s certainly a claim.

Empricorn@feddit.nl on 04 Dec 17:23 collapse

Tariffs, sanctions, trade war… This will definitely help the working class…