Why I left Silicon Valley: Chinese tech workers talk about returning home (restofworld.org)
from Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world on 24 Sep 16:06
https://programming.dev/post/38006446

cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/38000212

Chinese-origin tech workers are abandoning the American dream and returning home, where state-led incentives and ambition are plentiful.

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Korkki@lemmy.ml on 24 Sep 17:14 next collapse

Brain drain from USA

What’s left after that? Much of american economy as I understand it is based on being able to constantly suck up the capital and scientist from around the world to the Usa.

Lembot_0004@discuss.online on 24 Sep 17:49 next collapse

Corn, oil and freedom!

alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works on 24 Sep 19:25 collapse

Corn, oil, freedom*

*Term and conditions apply

TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca on 24 Sep 18:04 collapse

The US has surrendered almost all of their manufacturing power and knowledge, absolutely kneecapped their education system(s), and stripped away most of its incentives and soft power projection. Trump certainly put the final nail in the coffin but the process has been ongoing for decades.

The US doesn’t make anything and a lot of what it does make is bullshit like the entire corn industry. Much of the “value” in the US is speculative and, for lack of a better way of putting it, a complete and utter fantasy. As soon as that house of cards starts to become unstable and the world moves away from the USD then the US economy is going to implode so hard that it would make a black hole blush. They have less and less to bring to the table except their buying power and that is tumbling quickly as their wealth inequality shifts dramatically.

And that’s before you even factor in the self-sabotage with things like the random tariffs every 15 minutes and constant threat of being arrested and thrown into a camp. There are companies in the US that have to do their business outside the US because they can’t feasibly import product into their own country. It really is difficult to express just how badly the US has backed themselves into a corner.

Korkki@lemmy.ml on 24 Sep 21:50 next collapse

The US has surrendered almost all of their manufacturing power and knowledge

Only high tier manufacturing can even compete in the US and that’s because that’s the only place where there are no or very little completion. Us manufacturing alone can only compete with total monopoly. Even then the degradation of manufacturing base makes things difficult and expensive. US science base is mostly there to try manufacturing new monopolies and not so much to serve the manufacturing industries. Failing that they can produce new patents and intellectual property that can then be leased to other companies in other countries and leaving US capital a cut from all the sectors and the their companies that use those patents.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca on 25 Sep 15:04 collapse

Im skeptical the US will get chip fabs working anywhere near as well as Taiwan.

vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org on 25 Sep 09:31 collapse

Let’s please remember the particular American academic culture. It looks funny and very attractive when shown in Indiana Jones movies or something like that, with a rosy flavor. But IRL plenty of people important in that and, well, directing the development of said culture are power-tripping rockstar-feeling idiots. If you compare American professors to German professors, you might see an ocean of cultural difference.

People who make up said power are the very ones undoing it.

The US doesn’t make anything and a lot of what it does make is bullshit like the entire corn industry. Much of the “value” in the US is speculative and, for lack of a better way of putting it, a complete and utter fantasy. As soon as that house of cards starts to become unstable and the world moves away from the USD then the US economy is going to implode so hard that it would make a black hole blush.

That’s just the latter part of any cycle of life and power. You conquer reputation and eventually you start using it to reinforce the actual value, and that leads to increasing degradation.

[deleted] on 24 Sep 17:42 next collapse

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SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org on 24 Sep 21:33 collapse

ICE showed up at the door?