EU disease agency considers quitting Elon Musk’s X over disinfo (www.politico.eu)
from moe90@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 05:01
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shartworx@sh.itjust.works on 21 Nov 05:11 next collapse

Why is anyone considering staying on X?

fluxion@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 05:21 next collapse

At this point Musk might greet all your health-related updates with a 1000x boost of anti-vax nonsense from RFK Jr and an army of anti-vax bots spewing Nazi rhetoric, then you getting sued and your account banned if you suggest something “fishy” is happening

Fuck this absolute steaming pile of a website and the nutjob that smeared his shit all over it. No government agency should even think of using it for anything regarding public communications

garretble@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 05:23 next collapse

I hadn’t used my twitter account in over a year, but today finally deleted all my posts and disabled the account.

I had it for 16 years and thought it’d feel different, but I’ve been so far away from it now I really had no emotions to shutting it down. It was easy, and now I have no ties to that garbage any more.

RobotZap10000@feddit.nl on 21 Nov 10:52 collapse

It’s hard to feel any emotions while severing such impersonal relationships. I would advise you to do it whenever you feel like it’s the correct thing to do. Go where the users shine, the memes flow and the owners aren’t dipshit billionaires who mine your data, restrict the free internet and pollute your online experiences with conspiratorial nazi bullshit. Be a digital nomad.

iii@mander.xyz on 21 Nov 05:24 next collapse

Why did anyone join it in the first place?

Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca on 21 Nov 05:39 collapse

It USED to be a decent source for news and updates on stuff but that’s long gone. I deleted my account just before that weird billionaire guy bought it and don’t regret it one bit.

TheFogan@programming.dev on 21 Nov 05:50 next collapse

Well I mean it’s a disease agency. Missinformation on X is bad. Their job however is about getting the word out to people of what to do to avoid diseases. People don’t switch networks to follow their favorite health agencies. So… if the job is to warn people about serious shit… it kind of is important to be where the people are currently and try and get the facts heard among the misinformation.

DarkCloud@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 06:00 next collapse

I don’t think the people still on X are going to be listening to the EU disease agency account.

They should (as you say) go where the people are… Which is threads and BlueSky. Follow the crowd.

troed@fedia.io on 21 Nov 06:29 next collapse

No, they should be where no entity outside of European jurisdiction can influence their messaging.

The EU commission has their own Mastodon instance. That's how all public services should do it.

DarkCloud@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 07:31 collapse

I wonder how long until Xitter does this sort of thing to the EU Disease Information account:

Community Note:

Covid 19 is not real.

I feel like that level of misinformation is now possible there.

RobotZap10000@feddit.nl on 21 Nov 10:44 collapse

This makes me want to invoke the remind me bot, but I don’t think we have one on Lemmy. I wager that we’ll see this exact statememt from fridge-chest when the US gets hit with the next wave of 'rona.

lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Nov 11:43 collapse

Couldn’t you set an alert in your calendar tool of choice with the comment link in the notes or title?

RobotZap10000@feddit.nl on 21 Nov 12:02 collapse

I considered it, but I don’t think that future me would care much to go out of their way to inform an internet stranger that their prediction from a year ago was correct.

lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Nov 12:33 collapse

Fair point

lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Nov 12:33 collapse

The (ideal) most reasonable approach for public information organs, in my opinion, would be to use all the channels that are available - Mastodon, Bluesky, Threads, but also X for the share of people that can’t be arsed to move (or don’t want to, because the people and communities they care about haven’t). I’d even count Facebook, Instagram, Reddit among those channels, as much as I resent those companies, as well as Lemmy and the other fediverse services (I’m not super informed here), a blog, RSS feeds, maybe an email subscription service too, just to be sure.

In fact, I think diversifying your presence would be a great thing in general - platform exclusivity is turning out to be a quite toxic and disadvantageous concept. Well, it has been for a while, but it’s starting to become more visible.

The real restriction is of course the technical infrastructure and personell to maintain all these presences. You could use of a content distribution system that takes a picture, a long text and a short summary to generate appropriate posts for all these platforms, but you’d still need people monitoring and responding on the various platforms, ideally people sufficiently familiar with the respective culture to communicate effectively.

whostosay@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 07:47 next collapse

The whole reason Twitter was popular was to be informed by the people you follow.

No one that is still there gives any sort of fuck about correct information, just bail. Stop legitimizing this Nazi bullhorn for God’s sake.

Wispy2891@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 13:04 collapse

What’s the point then when the important information can’t be freely read by the population without a xitter account. It made sense when you could read tweets without forced login, but now is useless

TheFogan@programming.dev on 21 Nov 13:56 collapse

Never said exclusively… a group warning of health risks etc… should be using every avenue they can.

Free_Opinions@feddit.uk on 21 Nov 07:02 collapse

I don’t know about others but I’m there for the porn

RobotZap10000@feddit.nl on 21 Nov 10:54 collapse

Objectively the most rational reason to be there. It’s named X, after all.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 21 Nov 05:20 next collapse

Considers? This is not news worthy. This is like showing up to a skin head rally and announcing you are considering friending a black person. Grow a spine and do the right thing.

If your business uses X send a letter to the head of marketing and your ceo asking them to stop or start a petition.

todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee on 21 Nov 12:57 collapse

Fun fact: Skinheads aren’t racist by default. It’s largely an aesthetic subculture.

There are anti-fascist skinheads. There are black skinheads. It was originally a punk subculture.

“White power skinheads” ruined it for everyone, but I usually try not to use “skinhead” as a pejorative, having progressive skinhead friends that fucking hate that shit.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 21 Nov 17:25 collapse

And the swastika means many things besides supporting Nazis, but shitheads have a way of ruining things. Your progressive skin head friends have an uphill battle and at some point you need to weigh your dedication to an esthetic vs the societally accepted message of hate you outwardly project. There are probably a couple decent human beings on X for example, but I’m going to assume they are douche bags. I’m all for swimming up stream but when your vibe overlaps with hate signaling it’s time to search yourself for some flexibility on your choices/look / etc.

shoulderoforion@fedia.io on 21 Nov 05:51 next collapse

"considers". the human race is very very stupid, and in the end, will be it's own undoing.

moe90@feddit.nl on 21 Nov 06:10 next collapse

They have bluesky account as well bsky.app/profile/ecdc-eu.bsky.social, threads www.threads.net/@ecdc.eu and mastodon mastodon.social/@ECDC_EU@respublicae.eu But, the mastodon and threads seems abandoned.

takeda@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 07:04 collapse

The threads one looks like has posts from 2 days ago so I think it is used.

The Mastodon one says it is an unofficial automated mirror.

moe90@feddit.nl on 21 Nov 12:02 collapse

Oops. Yeah I just noticed that. Well, Mastodon users can use bridgy to this bluesky account to get latest feeds

PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 06:42 next collapse

… considers? Just do it. Jesus.

dellish@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 06:56 next collapse

They have a concept of quitting.

whostosay@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 07:48 next collapse

They first have to see our god-king’s reaction then act appropriately.

moe90@feddit.nl on 21 Nov 08:02 collapse

yeah they can drop a pinned message on X for leaving and mentioned their next platform. But, I don’t think Elon will Happy about that

elvith@feddit.org on 21 Nov 08:42 collapse

What’s he gonna do about it?

Sue them?

interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works on 21 Nov 09:10 collapse

Wowowow… it’s an EU agency… First they need to issue a communication that sets outs a vision for a roadmap to create a framework for an alliance that will create an agenda for the steering committee that will issue a request for a study of merits.

Then they can schedule to do something.

barsoap@lemm.ee on 21 Nov 11:25 collapse

The kicker is that in any member state that’d be politics trying to bury something in procedure, while on the European level it’s the only way to get anything done. Leave out a step and the thing just fizzles because noone even knows about it.

…not, I mean, quitting X. But in general.

interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works on 21 Nov 15:39 collapse

The EU has been designed so that no one in any position can abuse his (or her) powers or at least make it extremely difficult to do so, with an added layer of mistrust between the states requiring even more checks and balances so it can lead to some ridiculously complicated processes since not much can be done without a majority consensus.

Deciding to leave twitter or not will lead to a barrage of comments from all the countries, so I’m not even surprised that even that decision has to be carefully managed.

I’m poking fun but for all it’s flaws the EU has achieved a surprising amount of things.

whyalone@lemm.ee on 21 Nov 08:09 next collapse

It’s not like the crazies from over there will believe anything that agency says anyway, so better just gtfo.

BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 10:32 next collapse

Like RFK Jr won’t reinstate it and make it “the official communication channel”?

Kecessa@sh.itjust.works on 21 Nov 11:02 collapse

Good news everyone, the US has control over EU agencies now!

BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 15:32 collapse

My bad, the flag mislead me… Also been poisoned by US politics obviously.

badbytes@lemmy.world on 21 Nov 16:11 collapse

WoW, so brave of the EU.