Zuckerberg: The AI Slop Will Continue Until Morale Improves
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from Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 23:03
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from Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 31 Oct 23:03
https://lemmy.world/post/21495118
In a quarterly earnings call that was overwhelmingly about AI and Meta’s plans for it, Zuckerberg said that new, AI-generated feeds are likely to come to Facebook and other Meta platforms. Zuckerberg said he is excited for the “opportunity for AI to help people create content that just makes people’s feed experiences better.” Zuckerberg’s comments were first reported by Fortune.
“I think we’re going to add a whole new category of content, which is AI generated or AI summarized content or kind of existing content pulled together by AI in some way,” he said. “And I think that that’s going to be just very exciting for the—for Facebook and Instagram and maybe Threads or other kind of Feed experiences over time.”
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The metaverse a resounding failure, Facebook has latched on to the AI hype train in hopes of making the company relevant. They’re basically put of ideas on how to feed the beast of “forever growth” the markets demand.
They have a slim chance if they keep subsidizing VR headsets to hold a and luceative chunk of the VR market when that actually takes off. VR is genuinely cool enough that enough people will get hooked once they experience a headset on their face with a VR experience that jives with them
I’ve played VR before. But I don’t see it as a necessity just to play video games. It’s also incredibly disorienting after playing for a while, and it’s expensive to get the VR headsets, usually, also requiring you to already have a console, or PC to hook up to, so why wouldn’t we just play regular games then?
All of the things you listed are either being worked on, or are mischaracterizations of the state of VR.
While I do agree, I also find that even though I find VR a lot more intense and enjoyable than any flat screen game I’ve played, I also only rarely use mine even still. There’s something about it that seems to make it a hassle to use casually somehow, between actually getting the headset straps feeling comfortable, getting the passthrough cables plugged, launching driver programs on both the pc and the headset just to get to steamvr. It’s not a problem at all if I’m feeling specifically like doing VR stuff for a couple hours as it doesn’t take that long, but if I’m recently home from work and want to just chill for a bit without really knowing what, even that inconvenience means that the VR stuff basically never gets used for me.
My current VR headset feels a lot more polished than my previous, older one, or previous experience with earlier devices owned by people I was visiting, and admittedly I bet it’s probably a bit smoother on standalone than on pc passthrough like I go for, but I feel like to really take off, putting it on is going to need to not feel like setting up a printer whilst wearing a box on your head.
I’m just not sold on it. I can play the same games without VR, and they work just fine for me. I think most people feel the same way.
VR is great when playing Warthunder in aircraft, where you can easily track an opponents plane while maneuvering your aircraft after them.
For tank and naval battles - meh.
1: VR motion sickness is an issue some people get, unfortunately. It happens if you have a mind that refuses to acknowledge and accept conflicting information from your inner ears and your eyes… which people with motion sickness often have. When you try to “push” yourself to accept VR movement when you are already feeling sick from it, it gets worse. You’re supposed to only do a few minutes of movement in VR at a time, and stop when you start feeling sick. Getting over this is referred to as “getting your VR legs”. Once you do, you will be able to do hours without it showing up, and motion sickness irl might get less problematic.
2: Standalone VR, which runs a special version of Android, as much as I’m not a fan, is already here and usable with the (absurdly affordable) Meta Quest series, the (Chinese alternative) Pico, the (Apple tax’ed expensive) Apple Vision, and possibly Valve’s new Index.
3: Not every game is meant to be played in VR, but vehicle games and a lot of other unique experiences that require you to have your head on a swivel or interact with lots of in-world objects in a 3D space? Amazing. Playing Flight Simulator without a VR headset just isn’t the same.
VR is a cool gimmick but I don’t enjoy it for gaming.
I have to disagree. When I tried out a VR headset at a con I spent 2 hours with the headset on in Space Pirate Training Simulator thinking it had only been 20 minutes. This was the $250 Meta Quest 2 while I had a heavy backpack on my back because I didn’t have anyone with me to leave my bag with. I was trying to be conscious with not taking too much time with the headset so others could have a chance and figured about 15-20 minutes would be appropriate but apparently I was completely in the zone!
I can count on one hand how many times I’ve had that much of a time traveling game experience, so I’d say VR is a pretty dang cool experience and once hardware costs come down (or headsets become more ubiquitous) it’ll probably be a pretty big market for gamers, much like how consoles are now
It’s cool but as soon as I need to move I am out. Moving is inconvenient at best and nausiating at worst (for me). So that does not leave me with a lot of possible games. Edit: I am sure that is the same for most people.
Meta is very relevant Facebook Instagram whatsapp
Funny, the first thing I do when I recognize that something is AI-generated media, I make an effort never to visit that site/channel/feed/whatever ever again.
Soooooooooo……. More ads and bullshit then? I regret not the 5 or so clicks it took to delete my account.
“Sponsored Content”
What is Mark has been a sentient AI for some time?
For real. Companies being extra pushy with their product always makes me picture their decision makers saying:
“What do you mean, «we’re being too pushy»? Those are customers! They are not human beings, nor deserve to be treated as such! This filth is stupid and un-human-like, it can’t even follow simple orders like «consume our product»! Here we don’t appeal to its reason, we smear advertisement on its snout until it needs to open the mouth to breath, and then we shove the product down its throat!”
Is this accurate? Probably not. But it does feel like this, specially when they’re trying to force a product with limited use cases into everyone’s throats, even after plenty potential customers said “eeew no”. Such as machine text and image generation.
Plebs? He almost slipped lol
I believe it’s “dumb fucks” if history is anything to go by.
Something which clarified Zuck’s behavior in my mind was an interview where he said something along the lines of, “I could sell meta for x amount of dollars, but then I’d just start another company anyways, so I might as well not.”
The guy isn’t doing what financially makes sense. He’s Uber rich and working on whatever projects he thinks are cool. I wish Zuck would stop sucking in all his other ways, but he just doesn’t care about whether his ideas are going to succeed or not.
The rich want to get richer, the strong want to get stronger, collectors want more collectibles, records are meant to be broken, and so on. It’s never been about the destination - it’s about the journey. Having things isn’t fun; getting things is fun.
Agree. It is unfortunate however, that when being impossibly rich and protected for the rest of your life, you still work on how to squeeze the most out of humanity instead of focusing on something greater.
Obvously Facebook- and Zuckerberg-mocking AI content must continue until morale improves.
I heard Zuckerberg is poop.
Eh, not my best effort, but I’m tired. I just pushed a 600lbs man 2/3rds of a mile while he told me trump was going to save us all.
He never clarified from what trump would be saving us from. Probably because he himself hasn’t been told yet from Fox News. Because it’s more profitable for Fox News to make vague threats in the world, never define them, but pass them off as immediate danger. That way, if they’re ever brought to court, they can truthfully claim that at no point have they ever reported the news. Instead they claim they are a fictional entertainment channel. That’s real. That happened. Fox News, under oath, openly stated that they do not report facts, and are an entertainment company. They were forced to admit under penalty of pergury, that they have as much journalistic integrity as The Onion.
But it would be so great if there were some mark they could use, by convincing him that theres an enemy from within. Then put that man in the white house. I mean, can you imagine??? Manipulating a narcisist who happens to be the president, into doing whatever you want by feeding him, and the rest of the nation, a never ending series of lies? And as an entertainment company, you have zero obligation to report factually and objectively. Instead you can lead him down whatever path you want!!! COULD YOU IMAGINE???
Ok. Back to reality. Zuckerberg is poop.
Don’t you think he looks tired?
Media intentionally uses bad pictures of the people they don’t like and vice versa.
I don’t think Zuckerberg has any good pictures of himself.
I was quoting Doctor Who ;)
He looked pretty weird in his sweet baby rays video and he was the one putting that out.
Too less sleep and too much drugs.
It’s probably to nullify the incentive to use external LLMs, thus marking everything generated on the platform by the platform as such and also meaning Zuck can regulate what can actually be generated controlling the flow of LLM-gen content. If you put it that way, it doesn’t sound that senseless.
It might also be an attempt to fence in AI-generated content in its own feed, so that doesn’t infest everything else as much, which doesn’t seem that unreasonable either.
Please mark that picture nsfw it’s gross as fuck
I think I’m with him on this one. Replacing all the people on social with AI agents would give us back so much free time! And we could even restart socializing for real.
Go on Zuckerberg, give us a Facebook made only of AI agents creating fake pictures of inexistent gatherings and posting them, so other AIs can recommend them and million of other AIs can comment on them!
You are an unsung hero, Zuckerberg, but one day they’ll understand and thank you
Genuinely curious how long you could continue getting people to sink advertising dollars into the bot playground. If he played it smart I bet he could get a solid decade or so of people paying to show ads to AIs without telling them all the people are gone. Maybe longer, if he’s really smart and actually tells them for real that there’s no people in there but that their marketing materials will be incorporated into the AI in/output.
This man is a Muppet. He just wants to exploit the people who live in this world and use his services for profits. What a legacy to leave behind…
He won’t get me. I deleted Facebook over a decade ago. The writing was all over the walls, everyone…
I know that’s probably a generic insult, but he kinda does look like beaker from the Muppets.
muppet in the sense that there is a giant hand up his ass pulling around his insides and making him do/say things the person on the arm wants said/done. but hey what do I know ya know
Yeah I get that, with him it works on two levels.
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Good to know that they really have thought it through. Reminds me of the kind of user story our project manager writes.
Keep in mind that in quarterly financial statements, any forward-looking promises made are pretty much legally binding so CEOs never give specifics.
The goal has always been engagement prisons. Where people never leave the platform. With generated content this must seem like a final step. They don’t need to make people to interact with each other in ways that keeps both of them engaged. They don’t need to leech content from other sites while preventing people from going to the site. With generated content people will interact with themselves while engaged in completely fabricated content. It’s even more dystopian than ever.
Need to get Elon’s AI robot to master ju-jit-su and target Zuck.
I går they also make an AI to engage with their AI content so i dont have to
Then stop damaging morale, Zuck.
Am i mistaken or did he regress to a typical CEO type, from the way he can’t put together one single sentence without stumbling over another one?
Statements made in quarterly financial calls are a very particular level of legally binding, so CEOs sound like that because they are terrified of making promises that won’t be kept.
That’s cool, I quit Facebook ages ago.
I setup 2FA on Facebook using one of those USB keys ages ago. I tried to login again recently but it tells me to use an authenticator app which I never configured, and when I try to use the USB key it blinks at me. I know the key works because I use it for other things. When I looked into logging in somehow else it brought up some crazy page telling me I’d have to send my license to Facebook or some such shit. Oh well, guess it’s a dead profile now.
I learned today that every AI prompt uses about 16 ounces of clean water. It was really depressing.
It doesn’t use water in the sense that it is consuming it. It “uses” water in the sense that it is temporarily in a datacenter, gets a little hot, and then leaves the datacenter. I don’t even think a lot of datacenters use actual drinking water, instead taking water directly from a river, warming it slightly, and putting it back in said river.
Not to say I like AI, or think it’s a good thing. But this phrase that’s been going around just bugs me, because it’s really misleading. We should be focused on the ridiculous amount of energy it consumes, not the water it temporarily uses.
From what I learned the problem is they don’t put it back in the river, it’s just in the coolant systems and stays there. And they won’t disclose how much they are actually using.
There are two types of cooling systems: Closed Loop and Once Through.
This response consumed 16 oz of water but I am not sure in which manner.
Well it has to go somewhere, you can’t just take in water forever with nowhere for it to go. So either it’s non-potable water being returned to its source, or it’s closed loop. In either case, it’s not really a problem.
If you think that’s depressing, wait until you find out that it’s basically nothing in the grand scheme of things.
spoiler
Most sources agree that we use about 4 trillion cubic meters of water every year worldwide (Although, this stat is from 2015 most likely, and so it will be bigger now). In 2022, using the stats here Microsoft used 1.7 billion gallons per year, and Google 5.56 billion gallons per year. In cubic meters that’s only 23.69 million cubic meters. That’s only 0.00059% of the worldwide water usage. Meanwhile agriculture uses on average 70% of a country’s daily fresh water. Even if we just look at the US, since that’s where Google and Microsoft are based, they use 322 billion gallons of water every day, resulting in about 445 billion cubic meters per year, that’s still 0.00532%. So you can have 187 more Googles and Microsofts before you even top a single percentage.
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And as others have pointed out the water isn’t gone, there’s some cyclicality in how the water is used.
I’m so glad I’ve gotten off the big tech bandwagon by now…
Fucking Veggietales predicted this
Every change and addition made to Facebook since it first started has been for the worse. This manchild is a monster who’s irresponsibility has literally caused genocides in Africa.
fac##ok thrash fediverse better /hj