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just_another_person@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 15:26
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Yeah, cuz that’s totally worth it. Nuclear reactors that mostly power laziness, porn addictions or malicious actors. Why don’t you work on making the power requirements LESS instead, Sam?
PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 15:58
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Laziness, porn addiction and maliciousness have been powered by worse energy sources for over a century. But I do agree that power efficiency should be the focus before we go to the “insanely fast scale-up” phase.
Bipta@kbin.social
on 10 May 2024 17:20
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LOL okay Greenpeace.
just_another_person@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 17:46
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How carbon dioxide is better to you is a mystery to me.
If you want the other things to stop, you'll have to kill all humans.
just_another_person@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 18:16
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Like you’ve never heard of wind or solar? If not, best get with the rest of the world, friend.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 10 May 2024 23:05
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I have this great plan. I call it the “final solution”
BertramDitore@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 15:26
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I do not trust this man to do anything in my best interest. He is a disingenuous and untrustworthy messenger, and if allowed to continue unchecked will end up the overlord of a new hyper-capitalist dystopian nightmare. I’m genuinely afraid of this guy and people like him.
I’ll remind folks that this is a man with such appalling hubris that he thinks he should be able to raise trillions of dollars to make his own fantasies come true.
Bipta@kbin.social
on 10 May 2024 17:19
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He can't be worse than the ones that are already our overlords. At least he could theoretically free us from slaving our lives away. Probably won't, but could...
BertramDitore@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 18:52
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Yeah I hear you, but I think that’s actually a big part of the problem. We the plebs want AI to free us from slaving away our lives. But Altman and those like him will never have the same motivations as us, so I’ll never trust them to develop the technology in a responsible way that actually benefits the majority of people, not just the tippy top of the absurdly wealthy.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 20:35
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That’s kind of like defending monarchy because “surely the future king can’t be worse than the current one”. They are the same breed. He is them. It’s a somewhat systematic problem with these super rich technocrats.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
on 11 May 2024 22:22
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The only way to rid oneself from a king is to burry them in a random field and have them be discovered under a parking lot a couple centuries later
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 21:06
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Not a single chance that will happen.
mriguy@lemmy.world
on 11 May 2024 11:44
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He can’t be worse than the ones that are already our overlords.
Pretty much all of human history would like a word.
barsquid@lemmy.world
on 11 May 2024 13:48
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Are you serious? AI is about lowering the cost of labor for office workers by not needing junior talent. None of these billionaires are going to free you from slaving your life away.
neutron@thelemmy.club
on 10 May 2024 19:23
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His crypto scheme was already raising eyebrows. When OpenAI board attempted a coup and he clawed back to his seat, it seemed like he had gained complete control over the place.
sheogorath@lemmy.world
on 11 May 2024 16:52
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The dude really gave off Stephen Holstrom from Pantheon vibes. (Even if they made him look like Steve Jobs)
CosmoNova@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 20:32
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I would never trust someone who surrounds themselves with the people Altman surrounds himself with. I always got bad vibes from Musk because he was close to people like Peter Thiel and it’s the same with Altman.
los_chill@programming.dev
on 12 May 2024 04:07
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And an outspoken apocalypse doomsday prepper. Definitely the kind of ideals we want in unilateral control of nuclear power plants. This guy can’t fuck off sooner and any entity that would back his enterprise is either fucking stupid or blinded by greed.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 15:28
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Petition to rename this man to “Ted Faro”
Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 17:54
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That’s a reference I didn’t expect. Had to look it up to make sure I knew who he was.
tektite@slrpnk.net
on 10 May 2024 21:04
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So he named his company after the world’s only natural nuclear reactor in Oklo
Am I the only one who gets tired of having search results (which are already terrible) get even worse when capitalists take names for their products and companies from native languages and locations, making it harder to find information about the pre-existing stuff?
I’m interested in Gabon’s natural nuclear reactor, not in some stupid saltman company.
Pshaw, if it’s not from the Gabon region of Africa it’s just sparkling nuclear reactor
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 21:09
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Alls I know is, putting nuclear technology in the hands of a techbro can only work out great for everyone.
When they layoff everyone and leave the place poisoned for millennia, the share price is gonna jump!
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 10 May 2024 23:04
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This is why the government requires you to have long term finances that can be used to prevent a disaster long term due to financial issues.
BugKilla@lemmy.world
on 10 May 2024 23:56
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I think you make a good case for making energy production a public utility. Private ownership of essential services is ethically bankrupt.
The fact that a company can fail and leave people without core services, is disgusting in my opinion.
Even more disgusting is that they almost always seek public funds to bail them out.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
on 11 May 2024 00:40
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You misunderstood. The government requires that the company invest plenty of extra money into funding in case the company fails. I think this is a bond but I don’t remember.
For instance, the TMI (three mile island) decommission started in 2019 and will be finished by 2079. There has been multiple changes in ownership but the current company is using the leftover cleanup funds to slowly decommission the site.
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 12 May 2024 14:54
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started in 2019 and will be finished by 2079
Wow what a success story. I’ll trust that everything works out great by 2079.
the current company is using the leftover cleanup funds
So the current company didn’t have plenty of extra funds in funding? It’s just taking a cut of the “leftover” cleanup funds? Sounds extremely effective and responsible.
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UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev
on 11 May 2024 01:05
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There are regulations in place, and nuclear power plants do not leave toxic waste around them? They aren’t like coal plants that simply dump the waste into the air.
Unfortunately made and destroyed by policitians you can legally buy in the USA… They are cheap too, $10k gets you tons of access, for $100k you can make them dance like monkeys
UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev
on 11 May 2024 14:42
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Got any sources for that happening in that domain? I doubt there are many politicians of the old guard that are comfortable relaxing nuclear power regulations.
I respect your attempt to narrow it down enough to maybe escape my generalization… The lesson is never put your trust in politicians
UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev
on 11 May 2024 15:25
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I appreciate the link, it’s hard to trust what people say nowadays as their hate for societal structures makes them all regurgitate the same sentences without regard for context or nuance.
Your source however didn’t touch on regulations being breached or removed by corrupt politicians. They only spoke about attempts of siphoning money from the public.
You are right, this corruption case was not about regulations but, imo, that’s just a matter or price and time.
A long time ago I read about some horrible explosion in a sugar refinery and was amazed how so many industries have had lethal cases like that which can be traced directly to greed (not negligence, not an accident, not a bad mix of circumstances, just greed)
Since then I have all but convinced myself that every industry out there have had a similar example (usually more than one) which is why I have zero tolerance for the notion that industry can regulate itself. Every single time a politician talks about deregulation for efficiency or job creation, what they really mean is they are taking “donations” and couldn’t care less that people get hurt
UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev
on 11 May 2024 18:05
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I do believe nuclear power will always stay a unique exception to this, it’s extremely tightly regulated on an international level due to the fear of nuclear bombs. It’s far safer and better for the environment than coal plants or natural gas, which do poison the environment without much corruption needed to enable it.
The nuclear power industry is a whole different beast than what the California tech bros are used to.
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Yeah, cuz that’s totally worth it. Nuclear reactors that mostly power laziness, porn addictions or malicious actors. Why don’t you work on making the power requirements LESS instead, Sam?
Laziness, porn addiction and maliciousness have been powered by worse energy sources for over a century. But I do agree that power efficiency should be the focus before we go to the “insanely fast scale-up” phase.
LOL okay Greenpeace.
Just keep kicking that can down the road…
How carbon dioxide is better to you is a mystery to me.
If you want the other things to stop, you'll have to kill all humans.
Like you’ve never heard of wind or solar? If not, best get with the rest of the world, friend.
I have this great plan. I call it the “final solution”
I do not trust this man to do anything in my best interest. He is a disingenuous and untrustworthy messenger, and if allowed to continue unchecked will end up the overlord of a new hyper-capitalist dystopian nightmare. I’m genuinely afraid of this guy and people like him.
I’ll remind folks that this is a man with such appalling hubris that he thinks he should be able to raise trillions of dollars to make his own fantasies come true.
He can't be worse than the ones that are already our overlords. At least he could theoretically free us from slaving our lives away. Probably won't, but could...
Yeah I hear you, but I think that’s actually a big part of the problem. We the plebs want AI to free us from slaving away our lives. But Altman and those like him will never have the same motivations as us, so I’ll never trust them to develop the technology in a responsible way that actually benefits the majority of people, not just the tippy top of the absurdly wealthy.
AI will never free you under capitalism
That’s kind of like defending monarchy because “surely the future king can’t be worse than the current one”. They are the same breed. He is them. It’s a somewhat systematic problem with these super rich technocrats.
The only way to rid oneself from a king is to burry them in a random field and have them be discovered under a parking lot a couple centuries later
Not a single chance that will happen.
Pretty much all of human history would like a word.
Are you serious? AI is about lowering the cost of labor for office workers by not needing junior talent. None of these billionaires are going to free you from slaving your life away.
His crypto scheme was already raising eyebrows. When OpenAI board attempted a coup and he clawed back to his seat, it seemed like he had gained complete control over the place.
The dude really gave off Stephen Holstrom from Pantheon vibes. (Even if they made him look like Steve Jobs)
I would never trust someone who surrounds themselves with the people Altman surrounds himself with. I always got bad vibes from Musk because he was close to people like Peter Thiel and it’s the same with Altman.
And an outspoken apocalypse doomsday prepper. Definitely the kind of ideals we want in unilateral control of nuclear power plants. This guy can’t fuck off sooner and any entity that would back his enterprise is either fucking stupid or blinded by greed.
Petition to rename this man to “Ted Faro”
That’s a reference I didn’t expect. Had to look it up to make sure I knew who he was.
So he named his company after the world’s only natural nuclear reactor in Oklo
Am I the only one who gets tired of having search results (which are already terrible) get even worse when capitalists take names for their products and companies from native languages and locations, making it harder to find information about the pre-existing stuff?
I’m interested in Gabon’s natural nuclear reactor, not in some stupid saltman company.
Pshaw, if it’s not from the Gabon region of Africa it’s just sparkling nuclear reactor
Alls I know is, putting nuclear technology in the hands of a techbro can only work out great for everyone.
When they layoff everyone and leave the place poisoned for millennia, the share price is gonna jump!
This is why the government requires you to have long term finances that can be used to prevent a disaster long term due to financial issues.
I think you make a good case for making energy production a public utility. Private ownership of essential services is ethically bankrupt. The fact that a company can fail and leave people without core services, is disgusting in my opinion. Even more disgusting is that they almost always seek public funds to bail them out.
You misunderstood. The government requires that the company invest plenty of extra money into funding in case the company fails. I think this is a bond but I don’t remember.
For instance, the TMI (three mile island) decommission started in 2019 and will be finished by 2079. There has been multiple changes in ownership but the current company is using the leftover cleanup funds to slowly decommission the site.
Wow what a success story. I’ll trust that everything works out great by 2079.
So the current company didn’t have plenty of extra funds in funding? It’s just taking a cut of the “leftover” cleanup funds? Sounds extremely effective and responsible.
\s
There are regulations in place, and nuclear power plants do not leave toxic waste around them? They aren’t like coal plants that simply dump the waste into the air.
Unfortunately made and destroyed by policitians you can legally buy in the USA… They are cheap too, $10k gets you tons of access, for $100k you can make them dance like monkeys
Got any sources for that happening in that domain? I doubt there are many politicians of the old guard that are comfortable relaxing nuclear power regulations.
ewg.org/…/nuclear-industry-politics-bribes-corrup…
I respect your attempt to narrow it down enough to maybe escape my generalization… The lesson is never put your trust in politicians
I appreciate the link, it’s hard to trust what people say nowadays as their hate for societal structures makes them all regurgitate the same sentences without regard for context or nuance.
Your source however didn’t touch on regulations being breached or removed by corrupt politicians. They only spoke about attempts of siphoning money from the public.
You are right, this corruption case was not about regulations but, imo, that’s just a matter or price and time.
A long time ago I read about some horrible explosion in a sugar refinery and was amazed how so many industries have had lethal cases like that which can be traced directly to greed (not negligence, not an accident, not a bad mix of circumstances, just greed)
Since then I have all but convinced myself that every industry out there have had a similar example (usually more than one) which is why I have zero tolerance for the notion that industry can regulate itself. Every single time a politician talks about deregulation for efficiency or job creation, what they really mean is they are taking “donations” and couldn’t care less that people get hurt
I do believe nuclear power will always stay a unique exception to this, it’s extremely tightly regulated on an international level due to the fear of nuclear bombs. It’s far safer and better for the environment than coal plants or natural gas, which do poison the environment without much corruption needed to enable it.
The nuclear power industry is a whole different beast than what the California tech bros are used to.
I believe in nuclear and hope you are right …
We already have had real close calls on nuclear (Chernobyl for example)… Have we learned from our mistakes? I hope so
Wasn’t there a flood of poisenous chemical sludge in US, a few years ago?
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The last thing you want a tech bro to ‘disrupt’ is nuclear power. Nuclear reactors skirting safety regulations are a bad idea.
This feels like we are on the Fallout timeline. How are we doing if Fallout was rebranded to get the world stuck in the early 00’s?
This guy creeps me out in a modern Zuckerberg way.