_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 29 Aug 12:41
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puts decentralized social networks to the test
No it doesn't. Fucking ignore them. The fuck are they gonna do? Write you a strongly worded letter? It's Mississippi, they're not educated enough to even manage that.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 13:12
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What are they gonna do? Start fining the owners of the instances……
Decentralised doesn’t mean “no one in charge” - it means lots of people in charge of lots of parts. The fediverse would be the easiest social media network to bend to the governments will because it’s not billion dollar companies running it, and just the threat of fines or a lawsuit will make any instance owner shit their pants.
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world
on 29 Aug 13:20
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It’s like that time they tried to ban torrent sites, sure a few will fall, however more or more will rise up.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 29 Aug 14:18
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no, I forgot all about you. but piefed warns users about shitty people. everywhere you go, no matter the instance, you carry a big warning next to your name that you can't see and can never escape.
OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world
on 29 Aug 14:27
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SHIT I need that, just looked through post history and he’s got a lot of ‘my body my choice’ answers to vaccines too.
Well, one more blocked knucklehead
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 29 Aug 14:36
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he'd probably be pissed if he knew piefed also hides any replies of his with downvotes lol
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:26
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lol you think I care what a bunch of people championing censorship of dissenting views think?
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 29 Aug 22:34
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I absolutely think you're fragile enough to care, because if you didn't you would have just ignored my comment and moved on because it didn't matter.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:40
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Nah, in fact I sleep better at night knowing those people are angry just knowing that I exist :)
Hilarious you calling anyone else fragile though haha. You’ve done nothing but show how you can’t stand people not agreeing with you, actively trying to tell others people proactively to block me. If that doesn’t scream fragile then I don’t know what does :)
Fragile people get upset and cry for censorship when they come up against people with different opinions. Strong people have no issue debating and conversing with people with differing opinions. You’re the former, I’m the latter.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 29 Aug 23:04
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I don’t debate people John Brown would have shot.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:30
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By “a lot” you literally mean one when responding to someone trying to “gotcha” me yesterday hahaha.
Quick questions - do you think vaccines should be mandatory? What should the punishment be for not getting them? Which ones are mandatory?
What other things with your body does the government get control of? Should the government be able to mandate abortions if, say, you already have 1 child and they want to implement a 1 child only policy?
FalseTautology@lemmy.zip
on 29 Aug 17:40
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I’m sorry, what? I’m new to Lemmy and a m using summit app, is there a way for me to utilize this?
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 29 Aug 18:20
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if you are new, consider moving to a piefed instance like piefed.social. the feature is not a part of Lemmy at this time.
Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 29 Aug 23:35
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Alternatively, you can use an app like Voyager which has a getting feature.
It’s easy knowing not to bother engaging with someone who has “Asshole” next to their name in red.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 30 Aug 00:25
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yes, voyager is quite good. although it should be noted that the user warning and user notes are two separate features on piefed, so even if you haven't added a note to a user, piefed will still warn you that they have a bad reputation.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:27
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Thanks for letting me know this - I was reading about piefed and considering signing up to give it a go. Now that I know it’s an echo chamber ultra pro censorship thing I’ll avoid it like the plague it is :)
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
on 29 Aug 13:23
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The fuck are they gonna do?
Arrest random teenagers and claim their browser history or installed app list marks out as pedophiles
If you stay in Mississippi past the moment that you realize you live in Mississippi you get what you deserve. I’m surprised animals and insects are still willing to live there.
Why is that though, are other US states in any way bound by the laws of Mississippi? They have no representation in MS.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
on 29 Aug 13:01
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Nostr and fediverse: hold my beer
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 13:13
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I don’t think you understand how laws work if you think the fediverse is immune to things like this.
Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub
on 29 Aug 13:50
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I don’t think you know how jurisdiction works.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 14:01
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I don’t think you do. In fact I know you don’t.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 29 Aug 14:31
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you don't know shit, which is why you're so confident about it. the same reason 4chan isn't worried about the age laws in the UK is the same reason Lemmy.world isn't worried about what one counsin-fucking southern yeehaw backwater in the US says is illegal.
mississippi can't do shit to Lemmy.world, even if they threw billions into lawsuits. which they can't, because since republicans can't balance a budget to save their lives, mississippi can't even afford to give the people who are forced to live there clean drinking water. but here you are, thinking the state that's last in education, in the "first world" nation that's last in education , is going to start going around the world and making them listen to what some racist white descendant of plantation owners thinks is moral. fucking hilarious. I live in the US myself, and I'm not even going to listen to this law for my instance.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:20
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You might want to do some reading about things like GDPR :). You also need to do some reading on how governments cooperate with other foreign governments.
Immune, no, insanely hard to police? Hell yeah. The thing with these laws is that it’s pretty easy for MS to sue Reddit and force them to comply. They have one centralized location to complain to. You can’t just call John Lemmy and have him comply. Would it be impossible for a state government to contact every single instance owner? maybe? But they’re not going to do it. Even if they made an attempt the instances hosted in other countries couldn’t give less shits about some southern US state.
Nostr is a whole other beast… it’s currently littered with things illegal in just about every country on the planet but that shit’s still there so I can’t imagine MS could do anything there either.
TLDR: Immune, no. Neigh impossible to enforce, yes.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 14:00
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They could very easily contact the owners of the Lemmy.world instance, for example, and there goes the biggest part of Lemmy.
You act like that is hard for them to do. It’s not.
RaoulDook@lemmy.world
on 29 Aug 14:08
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Those owners can tell them to fuck off too, since they’re not in US jurisdiction.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:32
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I forgot governments don’t co-operate with foreign governments. GDPR certainly doesn’t have to be followed outside the EU, right?
If I remember right .world is hosted in Finland. Who likely doesn’t care about MS politics. They’d have to lobby the Finnish government, who, if they did capitulate would start an awful president. So they won’t as MS has 0 authority there. But, lets assume that they did, or that MS went to all of the ISPs and had them block .world. That’s thousands of dollars, hundreds of hours, lawyers, and paperwork. And the .world users in MS just download their config files and move to .de, .ca, or .uk. And now MS gets to repeat the entire process at three more countries who couldn’t care less about their laws. The would waste unfathomable dollars and hours chasing this mouse and get nowhere. So they just won’t. It’s posturing for the big tech companies. Same as with porn. The big 3 or 4 will just block the state and move on, and the rest and those hosted in other countries will continue like nothing happened. The conservatives will claim they won ‘for the children’, nothing will really change.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:11
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You act like the government doesn’t absolutely love wasting money on stupid shit like this lol. It’s their bread and butter.
Also you’re overlooking, or are unaware of, things like GDPR and what other countries are doing in forcing foreign countries to apply their laws.
JustJack23@slrpnk.net
on 29 Aug 13:51
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How are you so consistently wrong?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 13:58
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Do you think that laws don’t apply to instance owners? Why?
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus
on 29 Aug 14:27
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I love you just assume other states or countries give a shit what some red state thinks. the vast majority of fedi instances are not in mississippi, and the fines are not criminal charges to begin with. even if they were, good luck getting a blue state to extradite over something stupid like this.
missississpi made a law with no teeth, and fedi is going to ignore it like they should because there isn't shit some backwards US state can do.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:22
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You act like it’s only Mississippi, a single state, that is going to be pushing these same laws. You’re in for a rough awakening.
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
on 29 Aug 14:49
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I don’t think you understand how decentralization works if you think these laws could possibly be applied to the global internet.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
on 29 Aug 22:18
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I don’t think you understand how much 99.99% of people are going to absolute shit their pants when they get governments ordering them to block content or be fined and sent to jail, especially when their country’s government will likely cooperate with the foreign government ala GDPR/DSAR.
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No it doesn't. Fucking ignore them. The fuck are they gonna do? Write you a strongly worded letter? It's Mississippi, they're not educated enough to even manage that.
What are they gonna do? Start fining the owners of the instances……
Decentralised doesn’t mean “no one in charge” - it means lots of people in charge of lots of parts. The fediverse would be the easiest social media network to bend to the governments will because it’s not billion dollar companies running it, and just the threat of fines or a lawsuit will make any instance owner shit their pants.
It’s like that time they tried to ban torrent sites, sure a few will fall, however more or more will rise up.
Not if the instance isn’t subject to their jurisdiction.
this guy is one of those people who thinks everywhere is under US jurisdiction.
FreedomAdvocate? Yeah, username checks out…
his username tells you everything about his personality that anyone needs to know.
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no, I forgot all about you. but piefed warns users about shitty people. everywhere you go, no matter the instance, you carry a big warning next to your name that you can't see and can never escape.
SHIT I need that, just looked through post history and he’s got a lot of ‘my body my choice’ answers to vaccines too.
Well, one more blocked knucklehead
he'd probably be pissed if he knew piefed also hides any replies of his with downvotes lol
lol you think I care what a bunch of people championing censorship of dissenting views think?
I absolutely think you're fragile enough to care, because if you didn't you would have just ignored my comment and moved on because it didn't matter.
Nah, in fact I sleep better at night knowing those people are angry just knowing that I exist :)
Hilarious you calling anyone else fragile though haha. You’ve done nothing but show how you can’t stand people not agreeing with you, actively trying to tell others people proactively to block me. If that doesn’t scream fragile then I don’t know what does :)
Fragile people get upset and cry for censorship when they come up against people with different opinions. Strong people have no issue debating and conversing with people with differing opinions. You’re the former, I’m the latter.
I don’t debate people John Brown would have shot.
By “a lot” you literally mean one when responding to someone trying to “gotcha” me yesterday hahaha.
Quick questions - do you think vaccines should be mandatory? What should the punishment be for not getting them? Which ones are mandatory?
What other things with your body does the government get control of? Should the government be able to mandate abortions if, say, you already have 1 child and they want to implement a 1 child only policy?
I’m sorry, what? I’m new to Lemmy and a m using summit app, is there a way for me to utilize this?
if you are new, consider moving to a piefed instance like piefed.social. the feature is not a part of Lemmy at this time.
Alternatively, you can use an app like Voyager which has a getting feature.
It’s easy knowing not to bother engaging with someone who has “Asshole” next to their name in red.
yes, voyager is quite good. although it should be noted that the user warning and user notes are two separate features on piefed, so even if you haven't added a note to a user, piefed will still warn you that they have a bad reputation.
Thanks for letting me know this - I was reading about piefed and considering signing up to give it a go. Now that I know it’s an echo chamber ultra pro censorship thing I’ll avoid it like the plague it is :)
Arrest random teenagers and claim their browser history or installed app list marks out as pedophiles
If you stay in Mississippi past the moment that you realize you live in Mississippi you get what you deserve. I’m surprised animals and insects are still willing to live there.
Lets relocate all residents of Mississippi near your location.
I would like nothing more than to indoctrinate them into my cult.
If the instance is in the States it will have issues.
Why is that though, are other US states in any way bound by the laws of Mississippi? They have no representation in MS.
Nostr and fediverse: hold my beer
I don’t think you understand how laws work if you think the fediverse is immune to things like this.
I don’t think you know how jurisdiction works.
I don’t think you do. In fact I know you don’t.
you don't know shit, which is why you're so confident about it. the same reason 4chan isn't worried about the age laws in the UK is the same reason Lemmy.world isn't worried about what one counsin-fucking southern yeehaw backwater in the US says is illegal.
mississippi can't do shit to Lemmy.world, even if they threw billions into lawsuits. which they can't, because since republicans can't balance a budget to save their lives, mississippi can't even afford to give the people who are forced to live there clean drinking water. but here you are, thinking the state that's last in education, in the "first world" nation that's last in education , is going to start going around the world and making them listen to what some racist white descendant of plantation owners thinks is moral. fucking hilarious. I live in the US myself, and I'm not even going to listen to this law for my instance.
You might want to do some reading about things like GDPR :). You also need to do some reading on how governments cooperate with other foreign governments.
Immune, no, insanely hard to police? Hell yeah. The thing with these laws is that it’s pretty easy for MS to sue Reddit and force them to comply. They have one centralized location to complain to. You can’t just call John Lemmy and have him comply. Would it be impossible for a state government to contact every single instance owner? maybe? But they’re not going to do it. Even if they made an attempt the instances hosted in other countries couldn’t give less shits about some southern US state.
Nostr is a whole other beast… it’s currently littered with things illegal in just about every country on the planet but that shit’s still there so I can’t imagine MS could do anything there either.
TLDR: Immune, no. Neigh impossible to enforce, yes.
They could very easily contact the owners of the Lemmy.world instance, for example, and there goes the biggest part of Lemmy.
You act like that is hard for them to do. It’s not.
Those owners can tell them to fuck off too, since they’re not in US jurisdiction.
I forgot governments don’t co-operate with foreign governments. GDPR certainly doesn’t have to be followed outside the EU, right?
That is correct
Quick question, what country do you think Lemmy World is hosted in?
Completely irrelevant.
If I remember right .world is hosted in Finland. Who likely doesn’t care about MS politics. They’d have to lobby the Finnish government, who, if they did capitulate would start an awful president. So they won’t as MS has 0 authority there. But, lets assume that they did, or that MS went to all of the ISPs and had them block .world. That’s thousands of dollars, hundreds of hours, lawyers, and paperwork. And the .world users in MS just download their config files and move to .de, .ca, or .uk. And now MS gets to repeat the entire process at three more countries who couldn’t care less about their laws. The would waste unfathomable dollars and hours chasing this mouse and get nowhere. So they just won’t. It’s posturing for the big tech companies. Same as with porn. The big 3 or 4 will just block the state and move on, and the rest and those hosted in other countries will continue like nothing happened. The conservatives will claim they won ‘for the children’, nothing will really change.
You act like the government doesn’t absolutely love wasting money on stupid shit like this lol. It’s their bread and butter.
Also you’re overlooking, or are unaware of, things like GDPR and what other countries are doing in forcing foreign countries to apply their laws.
How are you so consistently wrong?
Do you think that laws don’t apply to instance owners? Why?
I love you just assume other states or countries give a shit what some red state thinks. the vast majority of fedi instances are not in mississippi, and the fines are not criminal charges to begin with. even if they were, good luck getting a blue state to extradite over something stupid like this.
missississpi made a law with no teeth, and fedi is going to ignore it like they should because there isn't shit some backwards US state can do.
You act like it’s only Mississippi, a single state, that is going to be pushing these same laws. You’re in for a rough awakening.
I don’t think you understand how decentralization works if you think these laws could possibly be applied to the global internet.
I don’t think you understand how much 99.99% of people are going to absolute shit their pants when they get governments ordering them to block content or be fined and sent to jail, especially when their country’s government will likely cooperate with the foreign government ala GDPR/DSAR.
Its so ironic how roghts are erroded under the guise of child protection, while they protect pedophiles.
Sidenote: when did Masnick become such a choad?