Zinc batteries that offer an alternative to lithium just got a big boost (www.technologyreview.com)
from boem@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 18:46
https://lemmy.world/post/4746928

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BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca on 09 Sep 2023 19:36 next collapse

Good lord that is a horrendous website on mobile.

expatriado@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 19:41 next collapse

for the first 2 seconds: that’s no bad… then all the pop ups came on

zomtecos@feddit.de on 09 Sep 2023 20:47 next collapse

Had just 4 X-Buttons… could be worse. 🥸

Bonehead@kbin.social on 09 Sep 2023 21:58 collapse

One of those X's was actually a Twitter logo. Fucking thing gets me all the time...

Tag365@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 22:18 collapse

I remember when at my 2-4 grade school my teachers talked about “x-ing” out of programs and applications on a computer instead of closing. Something like this would be a surprise.

agent_flounder@lemmy.one on 09 Sep 2023 23:07 collapse

Thank you Firefox and pi-hole… (I’m like "what popups? What ads?)

otter@lemmy.ca on 10 Sep 2023 03:20 collapse

Firefox+ublock seemed to take care of it for me. I had to refresh the page before I could scroll though

agent_flounder@lemmy.one on 10 Sep 2023 21:19 collapse

That reminds me… I may have turned off ublock a bit ago. Oops.

bassomitron@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 19:55 next collapse

Yeah, it’s pretty fucking awful, even with ublock origin on Android. Found a better source:

energy.gov/…/lpo-announces-conditional-commitment…

serratur@lemmy.wtf on 10 Sep 2023 01:10 collapse

If you disable javascript in ublock it is actually readable

ndr@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 20:12 next collapse

I have custom DNS filtering on my iPhone and the website looks perfectly fine. No ads or anything.

TheRealKuni@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 20:25 next collapse

I just have Wipr (which is not a particularly good adblocker, it fails utterly at handling anti-adblocker sites), and it looks just fine on my phone too.

PeachMan@lemmy.one on 09 Sep 2023 23:55 collapse

That doesn’t mean the website isn’t garbage. It’s good to call out trash sites like this so that people will stop going there.

PeachMan@lemmy.one on 09 Sep 2023 23:53 next collapse

LOL I have Ublock Origin so I don’t see the pop-ups but the website just freezes after 3 seconds of scrolling, and I have to leave. They’ve really ruined their site. 😆

Psythik@lemm.ee on 10 Sep 2023 07:10 collapse

Meh it worked just fine for me in Firefox Android with UBlock Origin and NoScript.

Ertebolle@kbin.social on 09 Sep 2023 19:45 next collapse

"Think again, Jimmy. You see the firing pin in your gun was made out of, yep, zinc."

theDodosConundrum@lemm.ee on 10 Sep 2023 00:42 collapse

“Come back, zinc! Come back!”

pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 09 Sep 2023 19:46 next collapse

electric car problem solved?

NotMyOldRedditName@kbin.social on 09 Sep 2023 20:33 collapse

Energy density on these are woefully inadequate for cars, but that doesn't matter for stationary storage which is what this is for.

painfulasterisk@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 21:04 collapse

I’m more interested in how they will troubleshoot and perform preventative maintenance to the battery, since halides are quite toxic.

supercriticalcheese@feddit.it on 09 Sep 2023 22:14 collapse

First they need to see if they work and can be produced economically

Gto@lemm.ee on 09 Sep 2023 20:33 next collapse

Looks promising, but not soon, I think.

Son_of_dad@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 20:42 next collapse

Eli5? Don’t zinc batteries suck compared to lithium?

marsokod@lemmy.world on 09 Sep 2023 21:49 next collapse

It depends on what you value. For performance and power density, nothing really beats lithium at the moment.

However, for grid-scale battery these parameters are not necessarily very important. What matters most is cost over the lifetime, and that’s wher zinc batteries could be useful. They have the potential to be much cheaper than the cheapest lithium batteries.

Zeth0s@lemmy.world on 10 Sep 2023 07:07 collapse

They do. They are just looking for cheap way to store energy. They don’t care if batteries are big, heavy and less efficient, they need something as cheap as possible for a range of use cases where cost is important.

Lithium is expensive. My bet is that, on the long term, sodium will be used for such use cases. But in practice decision must account for practical limitations, primarily supply chain

Chickenstalker@lemmy.world on 10 Sep 2023 00:35 next collapse

No. Move to bio-based supercapacitors that uses biopolymers.

Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world on 10 Sep 2023 03:10 collapse

No, move to naquadah reactors that use goa’uld metamaterials

bhez@lemmy.ml on 10 Sep 2023 05:56 collapse

I wonder if it can be cheaper and better at scale than iron-air batteries. Those seem inexpensive to make, and can carry a large enough capacity if you put a whole lot of them in parallel with each other, and have a long lifetime. They’re just really heavy for their amount of energy density and fairly low current per cell, but that shouldn’t be a problem when building enough to be grid-scale.

Zeth0s@lemmy.world on 10 Sep 2023 07:02 collapse

At that point one can use Na/O2… Much higher energy released by redox reaction, much lighter