Goodbye FireFish. (info.firefish.dev)
from 101@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 18:00
https://reddthat.com/post/25273680

Edit: Removed the photos due to lemmy crawler displaying the toot.

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Rooki@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 18:18 next collapse

That was quick

zewm@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 18:35 collapse

Sounds like my ex.

Rooki@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 18:49 next collapse

<img alt="Surprised Pikachu" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6769fd9e-ea98-4e9f-826c-0888a77e15a9.png">

wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 00:44 next collapse

Gotta make the most of it, go back for seconds, thirds…

tonyn@lemmy.ml on 07 Sep 2024 01:47 collapse

Self-burn, those are rare

scytale@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 18:22 next collapse

Glad I held back from suggesting Firefish for my wife. I’ve been slowly trying to convince her to jump to the fediverse for microblogging and figured to have her try Firefish simply because it’s prettier than Mastodon. Guess it’s back to ol’ Mastodon.

101@reddthat.com on 05 Sep 2024 18:28 next collapse

You can suggest Akkoma to her if you want a Mastodon alternative.

scytale@lemm.ee on 05 Sep 2024 18:36 collapse

Thanks! I’ll check it out.

Peter1986C@lemmings.world on 05 Sep 2024 20:56 collapse

Closer to Firefish would be Iceshrimp, a fork of Firefish started when the writing started to appear on the wall.

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 05 Sep 2024 18:58 next collapse

Does anyone know if Mastodon have that "multiple frontends" thing Lemmy has?

schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business on 05 Sep 2024 20:36 next collapse

There are some. Mastodon has a lot of garbagey nonsense, but they do at least have a proper API which will let you make a non-shit front end if you wanted.

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 05 Sep 2024 21:22 collapse

That's not what I mean. Lemmy has two separate repositories: one for the backend, and one for the default frontend. New frontends can be written and straight-up hooked into the server's backend instead of making all those API calls. For example, see https://photon.lemmy.dbzer0.com/ vs https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/.

schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business on 05 Sep 2024 22:51 next collapse

Well, Lemmy’s front end talks to it’s back end via an API, which is pretty much how every web app of any scale works these days.

There’s really not any particular difference between a monolithic app vs a seperate front end in terms of “all those API calls” since everything is basically calling APIs at this point, if they’re not made by complete incompetents. (In the case of Mastodon, though, I suppose complete incompetent is possible.)

Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 05 Sep 2024 23:43 collapse

Oh, I didn't realize that.

Xylight@lemdro.id on 06 Sep 2024 00:35 collapse

photon doesn’t directly communicate with the backend, it’s not intended for that. but even then, lemmy-ui is almost entirely client side (for some reason) and it makes its calls to the API

[deleted] on 05 Sep 2024 21:21 next collapse

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Aatube@kbin.melroy.org on 05 Sep 2024 21:22 collapse

See what I said above. I don't mean clients, I mean frontends.

astro_ray@piefed.social on 06 Sep 2024 01:40 collapse

Have you checked out Tangerine UI
https://github.com/nileane/TangerineUI-for-Mastodon

Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org on 05 Sep 2024 22:17 collapse

Sharkey might also be worth a look.

harrybo93@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 18:28 next collapse

Damn shame, tbh. Out of all of them I really like the visuals and vibe of Firefish.

EighthLayer@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 19:00 collapse

Yeah it looked promising. Also a shame I never got to try it properly because it didn’t work for me from the start. Home timeline never loaded and errored out and I never got any kind of support response so gave up on it. Oh well.

(Also, hi Harry in the wilds of Lemmy. 👋😂)

harrybo93@lemmy.world on 06 Sep 2024 05:55 collapse

Yeah it had a pretty rough ride at the start but when it worked, it was really nice tbh.

Also: <img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6c7e2a63-f926-4f20-8b5a-13e9207dc6d2.jpeg">

potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id on 05 Sep 2024 20:17 next collapse

Firefish users after this: 📉📉📉

xiao@sh.itjust.works on 05 Sep 2024 20:23 next collapse

For those who don’t know there is misskey-hub.net/en/

Peter1986C@lemmings.world on 05 Sep 2024 20:54 collapse

Did the Misskey network not advise against e.g. EU people signing up because of legal reasons like GPDR? Anyway, Iceshrimp works very much as intended and has active development so that could be an alternative for some people (have no experience with Sharkey).

astro_ray@piefed.social on 06 Sep 2024 01:50 collapse

I think that was specifically for misskey.io because some western users were breaking some sort of law. I never quite figured out the details. Misskey.io still doesn't let any IP from outside the China-Japan-Korea circle sign up. But there are some instances, that do, and some English language instances there as well.

Also, misskey and the Japanese side of fedi, tend to tolerate "loli" content to a degree that other side doesn't. My main account is on a misskey server and I love it.

Peter1986C@lemmings.world on 06 Sep 2024 17:12 collapse

I see. BTW, I never figured out the details either, but wanted to bring matters up anyway in case it still would be considered useful.

astro_ray@piefed.social on 07 Sep 2024 01:55 collapse

wanted to bring matters up anyway in case it still would be considered useful.

Honestly, I think the issue is still relevant because many users coming to fedi, don't get exposed to this kind of discussion. I wasn't. I was bored with mastodon so looked around and found firefish. But my instance was shutting down. So I decided to just use the source of all the *key software, misskey and went to sign up for misskey.io but couldn't. I had to search a lot to finally figure out the situation. Later, I joined a smaller instance, instead of the flagship instance. My server admin is amazing. They run an instance that also follows US specific laws as well despite being primarily Japanese server because there are a few english users.

What I learned all of these is that, mastodon is not fedi, there are a lot of software, look around before you settle down. And instances with small number of users form a better community. So, you don't have to choose the largest instance out there.

  • I am not using misskey because I like loli stuff. I should've worded it better. I love my instance because our admin runs a great server.
macattack@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 20:40 next collapse

RIP. Was on firefish a few months but saw the writing on the wall back then and jumped ship. In retrospect, probably the 3rd or 4th federated product I’ve been a user of that flamed out. WATTBA

foxymulder@lemmy.ml on 05 Sep 2024 23:36 collapse

weird, ive never seen that acronym before to my knowledge, and yet still knew what it stood for. WATTBA!

EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world on 05 Sep 2024 20:43 next collapse

I tried Firefish but at no point in time did it ever actually work well. 85% of the content just wouldn’t load.

Peter1986C@lemmings.world on 05 Sep 2024 21:24 collapse

It did when it was still called Calckey, but around the time of the rebranding their main server got into issues (Kainoa, the previous maintainer, was messing around with it to improve performance but that just broke things).

astro_ray@piefed.social on 06 Sep 2024 01:55 collapse

I am especially sad because firefish was the first fedi project that I donated to. A lot of people had problems with firefish, but the server I was on was absolutely amazing. Unfortunately, they server maintainers foresaw the demise of the software and decided to shut down early this year, on March.