WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world
on 22 May 23:16
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Fucking click bait title
etchinghillside@reddthat.com
on 22 May 23:29
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Save us a click - cliffnotes?
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
on 22 May 23:33
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Strange message,
Let’s just say we’re experimenting with silence,” a spokesperson for Duolingo told Fast Company over email. “Sometimes, the best way to make noise is to disappear first."
CosmoNova@lemmy.world
on 22 May 23:43
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This from a company that‘s supposed to teach you languages… I am laughing out loud.
“Let’s just say we’re experimenting with silence,” a spokesperson for Duolingo told Fast Company over email. “Sometimes, the best way to make noise is to disappear first.”
considering they said theyre gonna replace all their employees with ai, i wouldnt be surprised if this is the marketing departments’ last backlash.
natecox@programming.dev
on 23 May 01:28
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Yeah I’m dropping my super subscription and my usage of the app. Fuck AI, and fuck the companies using it to deepen the enshitification of tech.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
on 23 May 01:49
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I canceled my subscription. In part because fuck using AI to hurt labor, but also unemployment. Capitalists want us to spend spend spend, but they don’t want to give us any money to spend.
Exactly that. Everyone is obsessed with eternal growth, pushing SaaS offerings our throats and even more subscriptions. There is a real estate crisis, where putting a roof over your head becomes an even more distant dream for the majority of the working population and greedy companies are firing people and replacing them with AI and then they wonder why people are revolting. Eat the rich!
aesthelete@lemmy.world
on 23 May 03:26
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Capitalists want us to spend spend spend, but they don’t want to give us any money to spend.
The capitalists want you to spend spend spend, but they’re a dying breed. The neofeudalists – the group that really runs stuff at this point – don’t really care what you do because they’re too busy extracting the wealth of the capitalists.
I guess it’s like the difference between a parasite that doesn’t kill the host, and one that does. The current breed looks like it’s going to kill the host.
When you have so much capital, the only place to get any meaningful amount more from is the capitalists underneath you whose business you haven’t turned into a dried out husk yet.
resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee
on 23 May 06:59
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Even assuming we’re okay with using AI for language learning - then why would anyone pay for Duolingo instead of the many LLMs that people already use and pay for?
They’ve alienated their customer base hard. And this marketing video pretending they are siding with the users and against “their corporate overlords” is horribly tone deaf.
What you’re saying absolutely makes sense. However as someone with ADHD I couldn’t relate any less, I wish I could get addicted to something like that and not lose interest after ten minutes!
I enjoy Mango a lot more than Duolingo. I didn’t like Duolingo’s rote memorization of phrases. Mango adds structure and explanation, so you build and compose.
Also, worth mentioning that you might get free access to Mango through your public library.
froggycar360@slrpnk.net
on 23 May 11:40
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There are many many different people with different advice. Just do a search in any engine, eliminate the AI-slop and use what of the rest seems like you can do.
The most important factor is putting in your hours of study. You can never learn a language if you spend all your time learning how to learn a language. You will never learn a language if you good at one basic and never study anything else (which is what most programs, including doulingo will get you, so you need to try several different study methods)
Like I love how nobody seems to question the expertise of CEOs. Like, I know the board structure, they consult experts and make decisions. That makes sense (I mean it has problems but it makes sense). But if you’re choosing a CEO for a Telecoms company, and the last job he did was being the CEO of a successful kitchenware company, I’m gonna question the degree to which this person can do their job well. There are so many CEOs who seem completely disconnected from the company they are in charge of.
Because no matter the business, the game is capitalism. Who has the cutthroat, borderline personality to “make the tough calls” (read: weigh the cost benefit analysis of screwing the next group of people).
It doesn’t matter what the business is. Because it’s just about cost and benefit to these people. If they can cut costs, they will. If the benefits are lacking in that people will be outraged enough to stop buying, or the lawsuits will cost more than the profit increase percentage (factored into the actual viability of the claims and the affected group’s buying power for legal representation), then they don’t do it.
Nowhere does “but is it right” factor in. It’s only “will people find out, and if they do can we weather the storm.”
I have 5 person annual plan which is still useful if you’re not limited to English – e.g. French is a bad match there. But I will be checking out Mango for sure.
I mean Duolingo has been riding the “questionable or insane marketing” wave for years. It’s hard to say if this is just them taking that a bit to far or if they really are of their rocker this time. I mean their ceo has generally seemed fairly based in the past as far as tech CEO’s go.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
on 23 May 10:09
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That reminds me, I should start practicing German on Babbel (not sponsored, but open to sponsorships :P )
www.babbel.com/mobile
Doing a quick check I see that it’s like $17 for a monthly plan. Yikes
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
on 23 May 18:37
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I don’t think so, no :(
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
on 23 May 10:27
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The TikTok post has been up for days by now. If this was truly a disgruntled employee posting against the company, it would have been taken down by down despite the passwords being changed. This is a corpo post.
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Fucking click bait title
Save us a click - cliffnotes?
Strange message,
This from a company that‘s supposed to teach you languages… I am laughing out loud.
That’s actually funny.
This weird ass TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@duolingo/…/7506578962697456939?la…
A weird, kinda relevant but actually not tik tok video. Duolingo’s policies haven’t changed, so I don’t care what they post.
Is Elon consulting for them?
just marketing I assume. duo has always been a weird marketer
It doesn’t matter if its good news, bad news, strange news, weird news … its news and they’re all talking about you
Their idea of marketing is to literally threaten people. And it works.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/644663dd-052b-47b4-8bad-8ae8c8b3b4b3.jpeg">
considering they said theyre gonna replace all their employees with ai, i wouldnt be surprised if this is the marketing departments’ last backlash.
Yeah I’m dropping my super subscription and my usage of the app. Fuck AI, and fuck the companies using it to deepen the enshitification of tech.
I canceled my subscription. In part because fuck using AI to hurt labor, but also unemployment. Capitalists want us to spend spend spend, but they don’t want to give us any money to spend.
Exactly that. Everyone is obsessed with eternal growth, pushing SaaS offerings our throats and even more subscriptions. There is a real estate crisis, where putting a roof over your head becomes an even more distant dream for the majority of the working population and greedy companies are firing people and replacing them with AI and then they wonder why people are revolting. Eat the rich!
The capitalists want you to spend spend spend, but they’re a dying breed. The neofeudalists – the group that really runs stuff at this point – don’t really care what you do because they’re too busy extracting the wealth of the capitalists.
I guess it’s like the difference between a parasite that doesn’t kill the host, and one that does. The current breed looks like it’s going to kill the host.
💯
When you have so much capital, the only place to get any meaningful amount more from is the capitalists underneath you whose business you haven’t turned into a dried out husk yet.
They’re desperate to bring back slavery.
Slavery never went away, they just added extra steps.
You shouldn’t have subscribed in the first place.
Just uninstall and stop engaging with Duolingo marketing.
Great advice! I’ll do just that. Uninstalled.
Even assuming we’re okay with using AI for language learning - then why would anyone pay for Duolingo instead of the many LLMs that people already use and pay for?
They’ve alienated their customer base hard. And this marketing video pretending they are siding with the users and against “their corporate overlords” is horribly tone deaf.
Perhaps because their app and its gamification of learning is addictive and quite fun.
What you’re saying absolutely makes sense. However as someone with ADHD I couldn’t relate any less, I wish I could get addicted to something like that and not lose interest after ten minutes!
This is it for me. All of this has me pretty down, because the gamification works really well on me and I enjoy it. But fuck AI.
Going to take this opportunity to ask if anyone knows about a good alternative?
I’ve downloaded, but haven’t tried it yet, but hear good things about Mango Languages Learning.
I enjoy Mango a lot more than Duolingo. I didn’t like Duolingo’s rote memorization of phrases. Mango adds structure and explanation, so you build and compose.
Also, worth mentioning that you might get free access to Mango through your public library.
Pimsleur is waaaay better. Not as gamified tho.
There are many many different people with different advice. Just do a search in any engine, eliminate the AI-slop and use what of the rest seems like you can do.
The most important factor is putting in your hours of study. You can never learn a language if you spend all your time learning how to learn a language. You will never learn a language if you good at one basic and never study anything else (which is what most programs, including doulingo will get you, so you need to try several different study methods)
I like to ask people for their opinions
And so the A.I. larp begins.
Just randos larping as AI mainframe or whatever.
www.tiktok.com/@duolingo/…/7506578962697456939?la…
So they’re trying to pivot from “we are firing all our translators and turing our app into AI slop” to "we’re anti establishment and anti CEO?
Which C-Suite came up with this shit?
I’ll never use this garbage app now.
Hahahaha. God they really are so fucking stupid.
Like I love how nobody seems to question the expertise of CEOs. Like, I know the board structure, they consult experts and make decisions. That makes sense (I mean it has problems but it makes sense). But if you’re choosing a CEO for a Telecoms company, and the last job he did was being the CEO of a successful kitchenware company, I’m gonna question the degree to which this person can do their job well. There are so many CEOs who seem completely disconnected from the company they are in charge of.
Because no matter the business, the game is capitalism. Who has the cutthroat, borderline personality to “make the tough calls” (read: weigh the cost benefit analysis of screwing the next group of people).
It doesn’t matter what the business is. Because it’s just about cost and benefit to these people. If they can cut costs, they will. If the benefits are lacking in that people will be outraged enough to stop buying, or the lawsuits will cost more than the profit increase percentage (factored into the actual viability of the claims and the affected group’s buying power for legal representation), then they don’t do it.
Nowhere does “but is it right” factor in. It’s only “will people find out, and if they do can we weather the storm.”
Capitalism should die.
I have 5 person annual plan which is still useful if you’re not limited to English – e.g. French is a bad match there. But I will be checking out Mango for sure.
Or babel. Anything but Duolingo at this point seems like the best bet
Babbel is working ok for me for learning French.
Just lessons without all the hearts and ads and crap
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I mean Duolingo has been riding the “questionable or insane marketing” wave for years. It’s hard to say if this is just them taking that a bit to far or if they really are of their rocker this time. I mean their ceo has generally seemed fairly based in the past as far as tech CEO’s go.
That reminds me, I should start practicing German on Babbel (not sponsored, but open to sponsorships :P ) www.babbel.com/mobile
Is babbel free software?
Doing a quick check I see that it’s like $17 for a monthly plan. Yikes
I don’t think so, no :(
The TikTok post has been up for days by now. If this was truly a disgruntled employee posting against the company, it would have been taken down by down despite the passwords being changed. This is a corpo post.