YouTube rolls out more unskippable ads that make viewers wait even longer to watch videos - Dexerto (www.dexerto.com)
from moe90@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 02:02
https://feddit.nl/post/36259417

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InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 02:05 next collapse

Hmmm maybe I’ll just learn to read finally.

etchinghillside@reddthat.com on 14 Jun 02:08 next collapse

The neurolinks will patch that loophole soon.

Pika@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 02:12 collapse

“Please keep focused for this brief ad from our sponsor, your information handling session will resume shortly”

Sturgist@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 02:26 next collapse

Sorry, pardon?

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 04:02 collapse

Try it!

Sturgist@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 08:35 collapse

💪🤓

AJ1@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 04:35 next collapse

I’ve been meaning to check out this “nature” thing, or whatever it’s called. It’s basically like, just lakes and woods and the sky and all kinda weird shit like that. Supposed to be pretty cool I guess, idk

Gork@sopuli.xyz on 14 Jun 05:45 next collapse

I heard the graphics are really good. And the framerates extremely high. But there are mosquitoes so it’s probably not worth it.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 14 Jun 07:17 collapse

You mean like desktop backgrounds IRL? 🤯

Birch@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 07:03 collapse

Dunno, why learn to read, everything is already on the internet

HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 02:17 next collapse

NewPipe is my friend

TeutonenThrasher@feddit.org on 14 Jun 02:36 next collapse

I’m using a 3,5 months old version of PipePipe than magically somehow still works 😀

three@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 06:01 collapse

The latest version works fine.

cheese_greater@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 02:38 next collapse

The enemy of my adblocker blocker is my enemy cuz my adblocker is my friend

alchemist2023@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 11:51 collapse

yup newpipe all the way adblocker by pihole no ads on my network 🤩

_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 02:52 next collapse

I haven’t seen an ad on Youtube in several years, thanks to uBlock Origin.

Chivera@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 03:25 next collapse

Same, also revanced on Android

overload@sopuli.xyz on 14 Jun 03:58 next collapse

Ssshhh…

Wanderer@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 11:25 next collapse

I was using libre tube for a while and that broke.

What’s the best link for revanced?

reactionality@lemmy.sdf.org on 14 Jun 11:46 next collapse

Best link is to look up the Reddit page to find their links in the info bar. We shouldn’t be posting links here, or we might very well lose the privilege once Google catches on…

NotProLemmy@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 16:38 next collapse

You have to patch it yourself, sorry.

Youtube APK: www.apkmirror.com/wp-content/…/download.php?id=88… (Download this)

ReVanced Manager: github.com/…/revanced-manager-1.24.0.apk (Patch the Youtube APK with this)

revanite@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 22:44 collapse

Love libretube but it just wouldn’t play videos consistently. Ended up moving to grayjay

iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 05:42 collapse

Or newpipe… Or pipepipe.

Sunsofold@lemmings.world on 15 Jun 13:43 next collapse

Or Tubular

HollowNaught@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 03:02 collapse

Or Freetube on pc, a FOSS desktop client

Libra@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 03:45 next collapse

Yeah, close to probably 10 years for me.

AJ1@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 04:33 collapse

I’ve been ad-free youtubing since it came out in '06 or whenever that was. It’s a shame that they disabled uBlock on Chrome, I used to really enjoy my chromebook before it became spam cancer

adarza@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 05:37 next collapse

there is mv3 version of ubo here:
github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home

dunno how well it works on yt, though. i use dlp on a pc for the time or two a month i ‘need to’ look at a yt vid.

adguard’s free browser extension is also mv3 compliant (for chrome). i think the old adblockplus (disable ‘acceptable ads’ and ignore offer to ‘upgrade’ to a paid version) is, too.

grue@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 05:43 collapse

“Not as well as uBlock Origin” is the answer to that.

I got warnings to disable my ad blocker on my Chromebook recently, but did not get the same on my Linux desktop using Firefox.

I really ought to get away from the default software on the Chromebook (Firefox via Crouton or Android or something), but it didn’t work well last time I tried.

kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Jun 07:03 collapse

Is there support for blocking individual elements of a page in v3 version of uBlock Origin? (I won’t be surprised if it lacked it). I usually block various other elements of page like useless headers/footers/comment sections on some sites I routinely visit on Firefox.

Libra@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 11:48 collapse

Yeah, I used ABP for a while and got occasional ads, didn’t discover uBO til later.

benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Jun 07:03 next collapse

I find funny, that after watching YouTube for not over an hour, my ublock icon already says >1k

RandomVideos@programming.dev on 14 Jun 11:14 next collapse

I have seen 2 ads on Youtube in several years because Youtube revanced ad blocking didnt work twice

frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world on 14 Jun 13:31 collapse

Browsing YouTube like the good old dayz

beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org on 14 Jun 02:56 next collapse

I’m not worried. The minute the ad blockers stop working I’ll finally be able to do something else with my time.

chelatna@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 04:11 next collapse

Most of YouTube is already a waste of time anyways.

katze@lemmy.cafe on 14 Jun 06:37 collapse

Just like lemmy, yet here we are. Sometimes we need to waste some time.

no_more_dogz@endlesstalk.org on 14 Jun 08:46 next collapse

It’s actually very important to “waste” some time. You can’t be 100% productivity. It’s unhealthy.

But youtube is actually set up to act as an algorythmic addiction.

Scavenger8294@feddit.org on 15 Jun 08:07 collapse

It’s all about doing it in moderation and choosing carefully what we waste our time on. I would rather “waste” time reading a stupid book than go on Instagram or TikTok, where my mind gets trapped in a circle of emotions and algorithms.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 14 Jun 07:16 collapse

☝️ And it works, I can confirm.

reddig33@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 02:59 next collapse

Just means I will find something else to watch. I’d pay for ad-free YouTube if it didn’t cost as much as HBO.

PattyMcB@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 03:21 next collapse

If they circumvent uBlock, then PeerTube, here I come

BadNewsNobody@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 03:29 next collapse

I use SmartTube on my Nvidia Shield TV box and don’t ever deal with any ads. It’s appalling whenever I have to use vanilla YouTube for anything.

Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 04:02 next collapse

For free?!

AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 05:33 next collapse

Days ago I discovered vacuumtube for steam deck. It’s basically youtube with tv interface but with all the adblocks. It works wonders in game mode and even has controller support.

20cello@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 05:35 next collapse

Revanced

[deleted] on 14 Jun 06:15 collapse

.

jsomae@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 06:17 next collapse

revolt.

no_more_dogz@endlesstalk.org on 14 Jun 08:44 collapse

Download everything

lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com on 14 Jun 06:45 next collapse

I’m still self hosting Invidious… Watching YouTube videos without ever visiting YouTube…

Bosht@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 07:31 next collapse

Link? Or just Google it?

lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com on 14 Jun 07:56 collapse

docs.invidious.io/installation/

The docker section there is what I used.

TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 11:43 collapse

You can even access your instance with playlet on roku github.com/iBicha/playlet

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 14 Jun 07:19 next collapse

I have yet to see my first ad on any youtube video.

🤷 github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases

Treczoks@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 12:31 collapse

I’m around long enough to have seen them, before blockers were a thing.

A_norny_mousse@feddit.org on 14 Jun 07:20 next collapse

testing

Does that mean if viewing numbers plummet they won’t roll it out? wink wink, nudge nudge!

zerofk@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 07:46 collapse

Very likely - but that’s not going to happen. Some people will watch less, some will complain but keep watching the same amount, and the majority will just take it as a fact of life and not change their behaviour.

fodor@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 08:10 collapse

I think we’ve seen enough changes in social media platforms over the past few decades to say that your claim is true until it’s not. As payments to content creators fall, and as garbage postings increase, the actual value to the average user of the site is clearly decreasing. So we’ll see how long YouTube is relevant.

SilverShark@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 07:29 next collapse

I watch youtube on a smart TV where I don’t have a way to skip ads. I know there are ways to do it, I just never implemented.

The experience with Youtube is getting so much worse. It used to be one ad at the start of the video. Then it was two. And now ads in the middle of the video. They are also so long! It completely breaks the narrative of the video and is so distracting.

All of this just makes me want to watch less Youtube, which is likely not a bad thing.

wiccan2@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 07:33 next collapse

I’m in the same boat here, I watch on my TV through a Roku and I don’t think there are any options for ad blocking.

Little8Lost@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 07:36 next collapse

You could see if an adblock dns works, you dont even have to set up pihole for that (its just local hosted adblock/whattheheckyouwant dns).
If it makes problems you can set it to default or cloudflare or something

Setting another dns is in most cases just going to the settings and pasting a link

Edit: if you set the dns in your router it works at all devices at home

Scrollone@feddit.it on 14 Jun 09:33 collapse

DNS blocking doesn’t work on YouTube ads because they’re served by the same domain of videos.

pyre@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 07:54 next collapse

on the rare case that i watch YouTube on tv, if it’s at the beginning, i just quit the video and restart over and over again until i see a 5 sec skip. sometimes it takes longer than the ads would’ve taken but I’d rather do that than take it on the chin to be honest. I’m also hoping others do it too so maybe they get some telemetry data.

and if it’s in the middle of the video i just quit. if it’s important enough i can just watch it on my phone or PC without ads.

MakkaPakka@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Jun 08:34 next collapse

When the ad is playing, are you able to press up a couple of times and click on the little (i)? It might then go to a “why am I seeing this ad” page which you can then click ok on then click on don’t watch this ad again and it will skip the ad. Doesn’t work if you’re casting a video from a phone, and it doesn’t work on some channels.

SilverShark@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 08:36 next collapse

I did not know this, and I love it! Thanks for sharing!!!

chilicheeselies@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 14:29 collapse

That stipped working. Now the option it gives you is to block the ad going forward after it finishes

MakkaPakka@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Jun 17:08 collapse

Oh that’s sad, it worked the last time I tried it but that was a few months ago.

AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 08:56 next collapse

I hope I can be the motivation you need with these super simple steps (will take a few minutes).

smarttubenext.com/android-tv-box/

swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 11:12 collapse

Have they made anything like this for Roku yet?

chilicheeselies@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 14:28 next collapse

I havent tried it yet but i think you cab rub a pihole and use that to fikter at the source

swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 15:19 collapse

Nah, YouTube serves ads on the same domain as the videos, so DNS filtering is out.

Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 17:54 collapse

I think playlet is what I used on roku. Not as nice as smarttube as you can’t log in I don’t think, but you can still subscribe and stuff, just doesn’t transfer between devices. Personally didn’t really use it, just set up for my wife.

elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 11:32 next collapse

if you TV is running android, you can use SmartTube

aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jun 05:32 collapse

SmartTube Beta has been a life changer on Android TV. I would just avoid youtube on my tv because fuck ads. But then i found SmartTube Beta, and wow. No more ads!

balder1991@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 13:13 collapse

Even with a premium account I’m stopping using YouTube little by little ever since they made their forced translation of titles and these AI voices that make the experience for bilingual people just horrible.

SilverShark@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 17:33 collapse

This is the most baffling feature ever. Why would anyone want to have titles translated? The video itself is not going to be translated! I guess it’s because of these auto subtitles that are simply not that reliable nor do they make for a good viwing experience if you really don’t know the language.

Even Youtube’s algorithm already doesn’t suggest videos from languages in which you don’t search in! My youtube shows me stuff only in the languages I usually google with.

And the ads with this ai voice… Damn they are weird.

KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 07:38 next collapse

And thus we say fare thee well - U-Toob

muntedcrocodile@hilariouschaos.com on 14 Jun 07:48 next collapse

This sounds like a problem I’m too third party client to understand

z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 08:01 next collapse

Ublock Origin on Firefox With Sponsorblock is the answer.

Edit: Mispelling, fuck autocorrection

Scrollone@feddit.it on 14 Jun 09:31 next collapse

And ReVanced on Android, SmartTubeNext on Android TV.

Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf on 14 Jun 10:14 next collapse

I think it’s back to just SmartTube. SmartTubeNext was a temporary thing to get SmartTube back on track iirc.

Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 10:39 collapse

I am fairly certain SmartTubeNext was a rebrand by the same dev.

z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 13:25 collapse

I like Tubular and/or Seal(a yt-dlp wrapper) on Android and don’t use a TV, but yeah, anything but the actual YouTube app is probably better.

RandomVideos@programming.dev on 14 Jun 11:13 collapse

How do you unlock origin? I have been blocking it thinking it caused the ads

gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org on 14 Jun 12:12 collapse

It’s a typo, they mean the ad blocking software uBlock Origin.

Nachtnebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 12:27 next collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/a6947f47-67b7-4bed-9ac4-b76c86955d8f.webp">

gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org on 14 Jun 19:30 collapse

I guess I need someone to explain it to me, because they even fixed their typo.

Nachtnebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 18:13 collapse

The RandomVideos is joking, not z3rOR0ne

RandomVideos@programming.dev on 14 Jun 13:43 collapse

I am already blocking origin, i was asking how i unlock it

DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 18:39 collapse

Ask ChatGPT and get back to us with the answer.

RandomVideos@programming.dev on 14 Jun 20:51 collapse

ChatGPT will give me wrong information as always

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 08:36 next collapse

Youtube has ads?

WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 11:43 collapse

Only for the paying customers, apparently. Crime pays, yarrr!

01189998819991197253@infosec.pub on 14 Jun 14:52 collapse

Blocking ads isn’t a crime .

nickiwest@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 10:36 collapse

Yet

no_more_dogz@endlesstalk.org on 14 Jun 08:40 next collapse

Content creators should just open a blog with magnet links

InFerNo@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 08:49 collapse

Then they won’t get that sweet ad money. They’re part of the racket.

no_more_dogz@endlesstalk.org on 14 Jun 08:57 collapse

Honestly I’m fine with sponsorship. I don’t care if the guy sells a vpn or some shit

But yes that’s a problem. It’s like if anything artistic without immediate profit needs some sort of public funding to exist otherwise they end up being propaganda.

michaelnik@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 10:02 next collapse

FreeTube on desktop, NewPipe on droid!

bigb@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 11:56 next collapse

Smarttube on Android TV OS

hanke@feddit.nu on 14 Jun 12:01 next collapse

Grayjay on desktop

Grayjay on Android

Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 12:01 next collapse

SmartTube on streaming devices!

possumparty@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 13:17 collapse

Firefox and ublock on desktop works just as well.

ohshit604@sh.itjust.works on 14 Jun 17:38 collapse

I would disagree, you’re still directly communicating with YouTube servers without a proxy in-between. Invidious or Piped are the proxies you need, they let you blend in with the other users of their services making data-collection on YouTube’s part difficult.

We need to make feeding the algorithm as difficult as possible.

RaptorBenn@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 10:03 next collapse

Red’s worth paying for, especially if you dont mind yt music.

Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf on 14 Jun 10:12 collapse

It’s not. Alphabet is already making billions off our data. Just use uBlock or ReVanced or whatever and don’t shovel more money into their greedy pockets.

jim3692@discuss.online on 14 Jun 19:15 next collapse

What would happen if all users start using adblockers, or the value of ads starts to fall?

I do not support the current, ad-driven, model of the internet. However, since the costs of subscriptions are increasing, while salaries are going downhill, it is apparent that ads is (seemingly) the only viable choice for now.

In the economy we currently live in, all of world’s wealth is slowly moving to ad networks.

Even donation driven models are currently straggling. Just look at the fediverse. The people donating to their instances are not enough to sustain them.

Capitalism has absolutely destroyed everything. The greed of stakeholders has milked most people. At some point people will stop buying the useless things or services promoted via advertisements, just because they will not be able to afford them. Then, no subscriptions, no point of advertising, no donators, no people hosting fediverse instances, just world hunger.

RaptorBenn@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 19:37 next collapse

Well because an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, i dont base my actions on how poorly someone else has acted. I just try and do the right thing.

RaptorBenn@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 19:39 collapse

And if they have your data, they didnt steal it, you signed it over or they bought it from someone you signed it over to, personal data is rarely stolen, mostly just handed off and then people act like they put a gun to their head to get it.

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 12:01 next collapse

when they do this shit I wonder who their target audience is.

raid_dad@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 12:20 next collapse

Their wallets.

phantomwise@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 13:05 collapse

Future uBlock/NewPipe users

Thanks for educating people about the usefulness of adblockers, YouTube ❤️

mechoman444@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 13:15 next collapse

Again YouTube ads? What the hell are you people talking about?

YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today on 14 Jun 13:39 next collapse

Mfers act like forgot about revanced.

Johniegordo@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 14:10 collapse

ptmb@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 13:23 next collapse

Finally subscribed to Nebula a few days ago. Between a third and half the creators I follow are there. I’m planning to move away from YouTube entirely, even if I can pay for premium or block ads I want to make the statement I don’t support their service anymore.

doodledup@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 13:31 next collapse

Isn’t Nebula a paid service?

nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 13:35 next collapse

yea

kameecoding@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 13:38 next collapse

Yes, but from my understanding Nebula is creator owned.

ptmb@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 14:17 collapse

Yes, I forgot to clarify that. I decided to pay for a nebula subscription, which is creator owned, and to try and stop using YouTube as much as I can.

I even got a nice discount on it from the sponsor segment of one of the creators I follow

I know this isn’t an option everyone can take, but for the ones who can, I think it sends a clearer message to YouTube and Google than any ad blocker, if you don’t respect me as a viewer I’ll stop using your service altogether. The ad blocker is still a great option though!

atrielienz@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 15:21 next collapse

I’m trying out nebula because I saw your suggestion and honestly a year for $60 isn’t terrible at all. But I’m having trouble finding creators (not because the app isn’t good but because it seems a lot of the channels I follow on YouTube aren’t on Nebula. I have two devices open actively going down the list of channels I follow on YouTube trying to find channels I want to follow on Nebula and so far I am striking out pretty bad. I hope I can get half the creators I follow on Nebula because so far it’s pretty decent from what I have seen. App is easy to navigate and pretty polished etc.

Is there a way to view who’s on the service (creator wise) before paying for it? Because if not that’s the major flaw with it.

ptmb@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 15:46 collapse

I am not sure if it is possible, to be honest. I decided to move as I saw a lot of the YouTubers I follow do sponsored segments on nebula, so I knew I was going to find at least them in there. If I do find any kind of page or tool to find out I’ll share it here

judgyweevil@feddit.it on 14 Jun 16:50 collapse

I tried Nebula and it’s nice, bit it’s too US-centric (+ something from the UK)

frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world on 14 Jun 13:30 next collapse

uBlock Origin intensifies

Odelay42@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 17:17 collapse

They’re blocking it actively now. For me, it requires a tampermonkey script to bypass the blocker check in Firefox.

OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 18:20 next collapse

There’s some A/B testing going on, for sure. My ublock origin on Firefox has never had issues

Odelay42@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 20:50 collapse

Enjoy it!

drhodl@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 21:06 next collapse

I have no issues on Firefox or Brave. I never see ads.

bountygiver@lemmy.ml on 15 Jun 00:18 collapse

Whenever that happens, the heroes in the ublock team does push a new fix in a few hours.

guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 14:26 next collapse

Anyone not blocking ads on YouTube needs to start blocking ads and sponsored content on YouTube.

www.mrfdev.com/enhancer-for-youtube

sponsor.ajay.app

revanite@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 22:49 collapse

I used enhancer but it seems the dev has stopped updating it for Firefox and only updating it for chrome.

Moved to Tweaks for YouTube and am quite happy with it so far; seems to also have more options.

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/…/tweaks-for-youtube/

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 16:06 next collapse

That explains the adblocker crackdown and enshittification of paid. Funnily enough, this pattern got me to block ads.

OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 18:20 collapse

You weren’t blocking ads before?

captainlezbian@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 18:39 next collapse

Ive been blocking youtube ads for like a year now. But when it was like one or two minutes every 10-20 I didn’t mind watching on an app that didn’t have ad block. It got worse and I got fed up.

Nindelofocho@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 19:26 collapse

Not the previous commenter but on mobile, a good few years ago I didnt block ads i didnt mind something skippable or a short interruption but they were just that very short and not in the way. I started going out of my way to block ads when they abused it

dirthawker0@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 16:19 next collapse

I seem to have the right stuff on my laptop, but not on my phone. When I play escape games on the phone I occasionally need a walkthrough video, so I’m switching between 3 apps: the game, my notes (a paint app) and the video. Walkthrough videos typically have an ad at the beginning and maybe one in the middle, and I don’t mind watching 15-30 seconds of ads for the YouTuber’s work.

This used to be pretty seamless, but a couple weeks ago something changed. When switching back to YouTube, it would not return me to the video but to the home screen. I have to go to “You” to get the video I was just watching, and when I click it it plays the ads again, then jumps to where I left off. So now every time I switch away I have to view an ads again when I switch back, which really sucks balls. I don’t think the phone is running out of memory since other apps I have open switch right back to where they left off. So I’d love to get something that will skip all that.

BCsven@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 17:32 next collapse

Newpipe seems to be working fine.

dirthawker0@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 00:49 collapse

I think this one’s a winner for me, thanks!

Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 17:48 collapse

Revanced still working great for me.

dirthawker0@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 00:43 collapse

Will check it out thanks!

muusemuuse@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 17:39 next collapse

I’m actually looking to start a YouTube channel, but I don’t know if I should even bother since YouTube seems to be going out of its way to try to kill itself

electric_nan@lemmy.ml on 14 Jun 18:28 next collapse

Just cross post to a couple different hosters.

Nindelofocho@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 19:24 next collapse

Do other services! Like Peertube and then mirror videos on youtube and odyssey so you still get traction

Penny7@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 20:57 next collapse

Since you’re already in the Fediverse, I’d suggest looking into PeerTube for your videos rather than going to YouTube as your primary platform.

I currently have a channel, but am going to switch to PeerTube when I have my backlog built up again so I can post in a steady schedule. (Workin’ on it…) The only things I’m going to put on YouTube are videos going, ‘Hey! I have the video up here! Follow the link!’ so that people can actually find it and Words of the Week shorts 'cuz I don’t want to feed their AI bullshit that I can’t get away from with proper stuff and it’s just stick figures and rudimentary drawings with words from the dictionary. Unfortunately, it’s not as user friendly to search for stuff on PeerTube as it is on YouTube. I’m hoping that gets fixed sooner rather than later. It’ll make things better. sigh

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 21:24 next collapse

I guess there’s no reason not to post to other sites as well?

MemmingenFan923@feddit.org on 15 Jun 10:06 collapse

Upload it to multiple platforms. If one dies you have already a plan B.

kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 18:20 next collapse

AdNauseum. Not only does it block ads but it also fucks with advertisers by sending false clicks that cost them money.

Etterra@discuss.online on 14 Jun 18:40 collapse

It will continue until it overshoots TV and they’re all 3x more ad than vid.

Hoticeberg@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 18:36 next collapse

GrayJay

jim3692@discuss.online on 14 Jun 18:48 collapse

NewPipe or Piped

ManlickerM2001@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Jun 18:36 next collapse

I’m grateful I have a job so I can afford premium 🙏

Laser@feddit.org on 14 Jun 19:24 next collapse

Bless your heart

hark@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 19:58 next collapse

I’m grateful I have the basic technical knowledge of how to install an adblocker. 🙏

misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 20:22 next collapse

Well we found the average YouTube user.

Snowpix@lemmy.ca on 14 Jun 20:24 next collapse

Enjoy paying to be fucked by the corpos!

Kevnyon@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 21:01 next collapse

I can afford it too, but I won’t pay for it on general principle when it costs more than Prime and Tidal combined.

TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 21:26 collapse

I can afford to pay the protection racket, I just choose not to.

sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Jun 20:05 next collapse

Here is every single way I can think of to block YouTube ads:

uBlock Origin + Firefox

NewPipe on Android

Libretube on Android

uYou+ on iOS

FreeTube on *NIX and Windows

yt-dlp + mpv

YouTube Revanced

Invidious self hosting

Piped self hosting

And finally, last and definitely least

YouTube Premium

Donate to the creators who make content. Google does not deserve a penny of your hard earned money.

Schwim@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 20:34 next collapse

I read that Google is rolling out some ads on premium so that might need to get removed from your list.

strict0768@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 21:12 next collapse

I believe you’re thinking of premium lite, or whatever they call it.

buttnugget@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 02:43 collapse

Correct. If they ever roll out ads on premium, I’m not sure what we’ll do. Maybe figure out a new platform or a new way to watch.

chinchillas@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 14:41 collapse

Amazon Premium started this trend. They’re shameless.

macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 20:42 next collapse

Then stop using youtube. It sucks ever since googol bought it. Haven’t used it since.

Frenezul0_o@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 22:23 collapse

That is right thinking. I admire that.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 21:57 next collapse

There’s also Pipeline for *nix (and possibly Windows, but I didn’t bother to check.)

Brumefey@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jun 10:30 next collapse

You should add Brave on iOS to the list. Never seen any ad with Brave.

qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Jun 14:26 next collapse

SmartTube for Android TV devices

jjlinux@lemmy.ml on 15 Jun 15:56 collapse

Absolutely. And they update pretty quickly when YouTube breaks something.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jun 14:30 collapse

I second Freetube. Not a perfect app (think it’s Chromium based), but it gets the job done and they’re pretty good about updating it pretty quickly whenever YT successfully breaks it.

miridius@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 20:14 next collapse

I have zero sympathy for people who don’t use an ad blocker

macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 20:42 next collapse

youtube sucks ever since googol bought it.

aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jun 05:28 collapse

youtube sucks ever since googol bought it.

drhodl@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 21:03 next collapse

You can skip or avoid ads on YouTube, so meh. What really grinds my gears though, is the stupid, fucking algorhythm, which routinely offers me videos I just recently watched, vids in languages that I can’t speak, “current” affairs stories that are years old, and channels/vids that I have specifically blocked. I curse YouTube daily, but will bless anyone who has a viable alternative…

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 14 Jun 22:18 next collapse

Adblocks allow you to not have to skip the ads physically, the algorithm is something else though. Now it starting to push right wing propaganda if your not logged in, and recently they said they are allowing even more now

ewenak@jlai.lu on 14 Jun 22:46 collapse

You could put the subtitles for videos in languages you don’t speak. What was much more annoying to me was the automatic audio translation (it’s still available, but it seems YouTube doesn’t select it automatically when you watch a video in another language).

Philzlaus@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 21:16 next collapse

Open it via Duckduckgo, the player will show it without any ads or tracking. 👍

atlien51@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 21:18 next collapse

WHY DONT WE HAVE A MAINSTREAM ALTERNATIVE YET

airportline@lemmy.zip on 14 Jun 22:04 next collapse

We do, but you probably don’t like it (TikTok).

atlien51@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 22:07 collapse

You’re right :)

I meant idk something like Oddysse (but a website with actual moderation)

ewenak@jlai.lu on 14 Jun 22:43 collapse

Do you know of PeerTube? It’s not mainstream at all either, but it seems more known to me.

It’s also in the fediverse, and isn’t accused of the same moderation issues (though idk if PeerTube is really better than Odyssee at moderation, I suppose it’s just a difference in policy).

Edit: I read a bit about it, and I can see I was wrong about Odyssee being less known than PeerTube. It’s strange, I never heard of it, but anyway. Odyssee also includes some crypto bullshit, so yeah…

amorangi@lemmy.nz on 14 Jun 22:09 next collapse

By operating youtube at a loss for many years Google acted anticompetitively to kill competition or stop competition arising. Now that they’ve achieved that they can do what they like. Don’t feel bad using ad blockers against this anti-capitalist company.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today on 14 Jun 22:16 next collapse

Final stage of enshittification, now they are allowing more right wing propaganda than normal on the channel

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 14 Jun 23:57 collapse

And suppression of comments, for all sorts of reasons. Words and phrases will constantly flag AI autoremoval.

anas@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:54 next collapse

I am in no way defending YouTube here, but how did it act anticompetitively?

Empricorn@feddit.nl on 15 Jun 03:47 next collapse

FYI, this is currently happening with Uber.

atlien51@lemm.ee on 15 Jun 08:00 collapse

I never felt bad abt that for a second. Like the thought never crossed my kind XD FUCK YOUTUBE!

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 14 Jun 23:56 next collapse

Hosting and storage costs, few can afford to be an alternative to an absolutely gigantic video storage platform that costs obscene money to maintain.

glog78@digitalcourage.social on 15 Jun 00:45 next collapse

@ChaoticEntropy @atlien51

you found your way to lemmy but you don't know about https://peertube.tv/ ;)

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 15 Jun 01:25 collapse

Sure, a service that manages an infinitely smaller amount of content and complexity. It is a situational tool, hardly a YouTube killer… the banner presented on the page professes that it’s expensive to run and please donate.

glog78@digitalcourage.social on 15 Jun 13:33 collapse

Oppinion

@ChaoticEntropy

https://fediverse.party/en/peertube/ << before you complain understand the technology behind. Everyone can basically provide a instance and it's decentral. As more people participate / as more instances are provide as better for all and as cheaper. If you really want to step away from services like youtube and want to have it sustainable (aka not depending on business) than it's your best choice. If you just want someone else to have the saying and replace one company with another good luck.

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 15 Jun 14:12 collapse

I’m complaining, I’m stating.

aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jun 10:51 collapse

I am causing a netloss to googs. I don’t pay for Google plus or whatever, and j don’t view their fucking ads. Win win if you ask me.

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 15 Jun 14:14 collapse

It was fun to thumb my nose at Google while it lasted I guess, maybe if they were less amoral then I’d be less belligerent toward them.

GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jun 02:05 next collapse

OK, so a bittorrent tracker site with a video player built in with comments underneath and you can get perks from content creators for seeding. Then of course some kind of voting system and etc. Then a creator can just get a seed box to start hosting their own videos.

Tregetour@lemdro.id on 15 Jun 11:18 next collapse

People get proccupied with emulating YT, which is indeed cost prohibitive. But that response assumes one is emulating all of it. What about only pursuing sections of it to cater to particular audiences? Serving 100% of YT’s video might be too much even for Amazon (for example) but what about 1%?

Why couldn’t Amazon host Booktube? And the manga/anime enthusiasts and other varietes of weebs to go along with them? They already own ebook retail. A VOD service to chip off some of YT’s viewership would be a more productive investment than The Rings of Power…

A YT competitor needs a bit of scale, sure, but not as much as YT itself. A fraction will do.

howrar@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 16:51 collapse

I believe the main cost is in hosting all the videos. A lot of them are probably junk that were never meant to see the light of day. I certainly use it as an extra backup for many of my videos with no context and random UUID titles.

For everything else, a potential solution is to have everyone come in with their own videos hosted elsewhere and the platform just integrated with a bunch of APIs for fetching and serving those videos. For small time creators, the cost should be fairly low to none since a lot of platforms allow you to store a small number of files for free.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jun 14:31 collapse

It’s a very difficult business model to make profitable without an already massive userbase. In fact, I think YT was actually losing money for Google for a while after they bought it. I could be misremembering though.

atlien51@lemm.ee on 15 Jun 14:42 collapse

Yes but not everything needs to make a profit, just not make a loss. Also it could be community supported with donations and stuff:)

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Jun 12:18 collapse

YouTube was operating at a loss under Google for years. The only reason it is able to exist is because a massive entity like Google was able to absorb that without folding, and keep providing a free service until it becomes profitable (is it even yet? I’m not sure).

I mean fuck Google, and yes a big enough non-profit (or even government) could do it (probably better), but unfortunately that’s not the world we live in right now.

TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 22:23 next collapse

Jokes on you, YouTube, my Chinese phone rolls their ads over yours!

LovableSidekick@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 22:55 next collapse

When ads get in the way I simply don’t watch the videos. It’s not like anybody ever really needs to watch any particular video.

Showroom7561@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 01:49 collapse

Educational content is hard to come by outside of YouTube, so it would suck to have to avoid watching those videos because of ads.

But I’ll do what I have to do in order to avoid ads for as long as possible. And I’ll archive important content in the meantime.

camelbeard@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 05:44 collapse

I pay for nebula, they have a lot of educational content and the price is low enough that I don’t mind it

Showroom7561@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 13:18 collapse

Sounds good, but if I search “microwave repair” or “improve vo2max” , it comes up with zero results.

That’s the sort of stuff we’d lose if creators don’t move away from YouTube. 😟

camelbeard@lemmy.world on 16 Jun 05:09 collapse

Thats true, I once had to repair my washing machine and I could only find 1 video about the same model and same repair. It was a large Russian man that I could not understand (this was before auto generated subtitles).

Anyways, I just looked at the video and copied everything he did and I fixed my machine.

krousenick@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:12 next collapse

yewtu.be

Vari@lemm.ee on 14 Jun 23:15 next collapse

Yall I got yt premium as a perk from my carrier and tried it out, it’s fucking AWFUL. Mostly the yt app. I get better speeds, quality and less interruptions just using brave

Taleya@aussie.zone on 14 Jun 23:35 next collapse

They do get they’re not dealing with a generation used to ad breaks any more, right?

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 14 Jun 23:53 collapse

That’s why they have to spend so much time trying to force you to watch all the get rich quick schemes, gambling, and expiring legal claims videos. What quality ad pushers they work with.

Lemming6969@lemmy.world on 14 Jun 23:37 next collapse

How about blocking this nonsense on Xbox? Need a pi hole yes?

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 14 Jun 23:52 collapse

I don’t think a DNS hole is going to save you from ads served internally by YouTube.

kalpol@lemmy.zip on 15 Jun 01:13 collapse

It might, if it just blocks YouTube

ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk on 15 Jun 01:26 collapse

Can’t view ads if you can’t view videos. Checkmate.

some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org on 15 Jun 01:02 next collapse

I will continue to download all my videos to avoid ads. When they break the tools in such a way that this is no longer possible, I will stop watching videos from YouTube and seek entertainment elsewhere.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jun 14:29 collapse

yt-dlp is the goat

altphoto@lemmy.today on 15 Jun 02:15 next collapse

Stop using it. I did and now I only use unofficial ways of watching the videos I want. And I download the ones I wanna watch again.

aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jun 05:26 next collapse

what’s a youtube ad?

Cocopanda@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 05:45 next collapse

Laughs in Ad Blocker. Still going strong.

JohneryCreatives@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 06:12 next collapse

Oh please no, it’s the reason why I switched from Chrome to Firefox when watching YouTube

MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca on 15 Jun 06:26 next collapse

daily motion has way better video quality and a lot less censorship.

LSNLDN@slrpnk.net on 15 Jun 09:14 collapse

I forgot about that site. I knew it just as the host for TV series streams back in the day

LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 07:50 next collapse

Occasionally I try the YouTube watch together thing on discord with my SO, and it really shows just how completely unusable YouTube is without an ad blocker.

Bluewing@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 11:08 collapse

The only ads I see are on a local sports podcast. The advertisers are all local businesses. From restaurants to local credit unions. And those I’m fine with.

LSNLDN@slrpnk.net on 15 Jun 09:12 next collapse

I was using uYouPlus+ sideloaded on my phone until it broke recently, now I’ve found using Brave browser for just YouTube is the solution

derpgon@programming.dev on 15 Jun 11:02 collapse

GrayJay, Vanced, or Pipewire NewPipe is the way

LSNLDN@slrpnk.net on 15 Jun 12:12 next collapse

I meant iPhone :(

Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works on 15 Jun 16:50 collapse

I mean, yeah. What did you expect ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

LSNLDN@slrpnk.net on 16 Jun 05:46 collapse

My dude I know, some people need to use iPhones tho. I have a solution anyway and sharing it here for others cos I heard it’s a popular phone….

Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works on 16 Jun 12:27 collapse

Haha I’m kidding, it’s good that you share your solution here.

Statick@programming.dev on 15 Jun 13:53 collapse

Did you mean NewPipe? Pipewire is the Linux audio/video framework.

derpgon@programming.dev on 16 Jun 07:53 collapse

Damn, fixed, I had a brainfart and was installing Arch while browsing Lemmy lol

AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip on 15 Jun 09:58 next collapse

Ive been using adblockers, piped and other tools for so long that i dont even remember what the last time was when i saw a youtube ad.

prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Jun 14:28 next collapse

Same… And if they ever successfully make it impossible to avoid, I’ll just stop watching YouTube

chinchillas@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 14:38 collapse

Hard to do if you watch directly from your TV using some dongle and don’t know or can’t modify your router to block ads.

Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub on 15 Jun 14:44 collapse

SmartTube is on AndroidTV

Kodi can be installed through the play store, you can transfer files over smb and ftp and move the apk using it.

You’re welcome.

Excuses:

I use a Roku or Roku TV

Don’t, buy a $25 Android TV box from walmart.

I use AppleTV

Don’t, buy a $25 Android TV box from walmart.

FTP? SMB? Apk? What are these, words?!

These terms can be searched for and learned about.

Why not just use Kodi?

You’re ahead of the game, find a plugin pack and enjoy

Phegan@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 13:09 next collapse

I highly recommend creators to upload videos to another site as well.

Mwa@thelemmy.club on 15 Jun 17:04 next collapse

true

_AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Jun 08:02 collapse

what other sites are there to use?

Mwa@thelemmy.club on 15 Jun 17:04 next collapse

I just use a frontend to remove ads + Extra Privacy too

daggermoon@lemmy.world on 15 Jun 17:17 collapse

I should just read a book at this point